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post Mar 31 2022, 12:01 PM, updated 4y ago

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Why Sinovac vaccinations mde obsolete??


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post Mar 31 2022, 12:07 PM

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post Mar 31 2022, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Mar 31 2022, 12:07 PM)
orang dah cakap awal awal , still ask stupid question at last minute.

why bodoh pipu like u will exist no matter where?
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post Mar 31 2022, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(JoGaki @ Mar 31 2022, 12:01 PM)
Why Sinovac vaccinations mde obsolete??
Did MY KKM found it unworthy?? blush.gif
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post Mar 31 2022, 12:19 PM

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Maybe assume sinovac no good compared to pfizer

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post Mar 31 2022, 12:23 PM

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You see china covid gagal until nid lockdown w everywhere you know why la
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Mar 31 2022, 12:07 PM)
orang dah cakap awal awal , still ask stupid question at last minute.

why bodoh pipu like u will exist no matter where?
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kesian ts la
dia baru dapat internet , baru keluar gua
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Mar 31 2022, 12:17 PM)
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post Mar 31 2022, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Mar 31 2022, 12:23 PM)
You see china covid gagal until nid lockdown w everywhere you know why la
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Those countries that use Pfizer aren't doing better, if not worse.
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post Mar 31 2022, 12:34 PM

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my father and sister kena kobis.
both pfizer, so how?

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post Mar 31 2022, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2022, 12:34 PM)
my father and sister kena kobis.
both pfizer, so how?
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Since when vaccine can prevent Covid infection?

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post Mar 31 2022, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(burnin @ Mar 31 2022, 12:37 PM)
Since when vaccine can prevent Covid infection?
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at least this so called superior 95% efficacy vaccine should do better job right? laugh.gif
when sinobek vaccine cant prevent covid infection people call failed vaccine, but when pfizer cant prevent it, suddenly mentioned vaccine cant prevent infection, double standard aa?

oh ya forget to mentioned, me 3 dose sinobek, havent kobis positive yet, my brother and another sister 2 dose sinobek+pfizer booster still okay. i guess we are pretty much lucky managed to escape from those invisible enemy.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2022, 12:42 PM)
at least this so called superior 95% efficacy vaccine should do better job right?  laugh.gif
when sinobek vaccine cant prevent covid infection people call failed vaccine, but when pfizer cant prevent it, suddenly mentioned vaccine cant prevent infection, double standard aa?
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Strange that people claim that.

No Covid vaccine manufacturer has ever claimed that theirs can prevent infection.
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post Mar 31 2022, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2022, 12:42 PM)
at least this so called superior 95% efficacy vaccine should do better job right?  laugh.gif
when sinobek vaccine cant prevent covid infection people call failed vaccine, but when pfizer cant prevent it, suddenly mentioned vaccine cant prevent infection, double standard aa?

oh ya forget to mentioned, me 3 dose sinobek, havent kobis positive yet, my brother and another sister 2 dose sinobek+pfizer booster still okay. i guess we are pretty much lucky managed to escape from those invisible enemy.
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same like antivax la.

kena infect then mati, cry father mother river salahan orang

kena infect tak mati, then say see no need take also won't die.
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post Mar 31 2022, 12:48 PM

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Null & Void for ppl no take booster . Who said void for those who taken sino booster?

10s to sino + booster , i juz recover from covid in 2days thumbup.gif
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post Mar 31 2022, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(burnin @ Mar 31 2022, 12:45 PM)
Strange that people claim that.

No Covid vaccine manufacturer has ever claimed that theirs can prevent infection.
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one claim 95% efficacy, the other dont claim such.
yet alot people only directing that the latter is the failed one.

to my eye, both failed. find other approach please. we cant depend on vaccine alone.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2022, 12:49 PM)
one claim 95% efficacy, the other dont claim such.
yet alot people only directing that the latter is the failed one.

to my eye, both failed. find other approach please. we cant depend on vaccine alone.
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I suppose effeciacy is about preventing deaths from infection rather than preventing infections.

The lastest study on Malaysian Covid deaths show that Sinovac deaths is more than 3 times that of Pfizer.

By the way, I am fully vaccinated with AstraZeneca.
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post Mar 31 2022, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(burnin @ Mar 31 2022, 12:55 PM)
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I suppose effeciacy is about preventing deaths from infection rather than preventing infections.

The lastest study on Malaysian Covid deaths show that Sinovac deaths is more than 3 times that of Pfizer.

By the way, I am fully vaccinated with AstraZeneca.
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wheres the stats? show me.
https://t.me/s/Covid_19Malaysia no longer showing this, the last time i check pfizer death are aplenty too. thats the result of having antibodies wanes over time.
no visualized one, you give raw data also fine. dont show me old article where that time people just got their cucuk.

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post Mar 31 2022, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Mar 31 2022, 01:07 PM)
orang dah cakap awal awal , still ask stupid question at last minute.

why bodoh pipu like u will exist no matter where?
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Kan sudah cakap seenobek useless, but still die die spam many tereds. Idk what they trying so hard.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2022, 12:57 PM)
wheres the stats? show me.
https://t.me/s/Covid_19Malaysia no longer showing this, the last time i check pfizer death are aplenty too. thats the result of having antibodies wanes over time.
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The CodeBlue article on Malaysian Covid deaths can be found at the link below.

https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2022/01/04...g-unvaccinated/

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post Mar 31 2022, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(burnin @ Mar 31 2022, 01:55 PM)
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I suppose effeciacy is about preventing deaths from infection rather than preventing infections.

The lastest study on Malaysian Covid deaths show that Sinovac deaths is more than 3 times that of Pfizer.

By the way, I am fully vaccinated with AstraZeneca.
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Also you are morelike die from seenobek than pfizer cucuk
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post Mar 31 2022, 01:01 PM

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https://www.businessinsider.com/fda-authori...ter-shot-2022-3

Because all vacancies need more shot... So 2x5 =5x2
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post Mar 31 2022, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(burnin @ Mar 31 2022, 12:58 PM)
The CodeBlue article on Malaysian Covid deaths can be found at the link below.

https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2022/01/04...g-unvaccinated/
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wheres the raw data?
its been 3 month already after that article.
its true that pfizer one give much better result earlier, but after antibodies wanes out, it doesnt show much superiority anymore
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2022, 01:04 PM)
wheres the raw data?
its been 3 month already after that article.
its true that pfizer one give much better result earlier, but after antibodies wanes out, it doesnt show much superiority anymore
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Unfortunately that is the latest article about Malaysian Covid-infected deaths I can find. Sorry.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2022, 12:42 PM)
at least this so called superior 95% efficacy vaccine should do better job right?  laugh.gif
when sinobek vaccine cant prevent covid infection people call failed vaccine, but when pfizer cant prevent it, suddenly mentioned vaccine cant prevent infection, double standard aa?

oh ya forget to mentioned, me 3 dose sinobek, havent kobis positive yet, my brother and another sister 2 dose sinobek+pfizer booster still okay. i guess we are pretty much lucky managed to escape from those invisible enemy.
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I’m only two doses Sinovac. Second dose more than six months ago. Go out everyday meet ppl. Still never kena.
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Mar 31 2022, 01:00 PM)
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Also you are morelike die from seenobek than pfizer cucuk
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42 deaths reported by NPRA not linked to booster vaccine.

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/02/...booster-vaccine

but anyway at first they already said the 42 death statistic is wrong because someone died in an car accident will also be on the statistic

msia got zero vax death. kek

"This is so misleading.

The article fails to mention that these are REPORTS, which NPRA is reporting transparently, but has NOT VERIFIED as CAUSED by the vaccine.

If someone died in a car crash after their booster and reported as post-vax death, it would be reflected in the 42. https://t.co/fTQIGCaoSG

— Dr Mahesh Appannan"

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2022, 12:42 PM)
at least this so called superior 95% efficacy vaccine should do better job right?  laugh.gif
when sinobek vaccine cant prevent covid infection people call failed vaccine, but when pfizer cant prevent it, suddenly mentioned vaccine cant prevent infection, double standard aa?

oh ya forget to mentioned, me 3 dose sinobek, havent kobis positive yet, my brother and another sister 2 dose sinobek+pfizer booster still okay. i guess we are pretty much lucky managed to escape from those invisible enemy.
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check MOH stats la bodoh. See how many deaths rate % on all kind of vaccines. Uneducated is kecian.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 31 2022, 02:07 PM)
I’m only two doses Sinovac. Second dose more than six months ago.  Go out everyday meet ppl. Still never kena.
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Lol cause your human relationship is bad
Btw this kenot take serious like tujuh cakap

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Mar 31 2022, 01:10 PM)
check MOH stats la bodoh. See how many deaths rate % on all kind of vaccines. Uneducated is kecian.
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guide me please.
i know the stats is there, but i dont know where to seek those.

even the github one i cant find it yet.
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...vaxstatus.ipynb <--- this didnt show whats vaccine kena cucuk
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...hs_malaysia.csv <-- no vaccine brand here
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...eaths_state.csv <-- no vaccine brand here.

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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Mar 31 2022, 01:10 PM)
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Lol cause your human relationship is bad
Btw this kenot take serious like tujuh cakap
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Who cares? As long I’m healthy no symptoms why i care what a tests say. Is this a competition.
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Mar 31 2022, 12:16 PM)
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Every week Selangkah vaccination program still sending notifications to Selangor people to get their booster shot and it's Sinovac, fyi.

Where does it says Sinovac is obsolete?

The vaccine is still valid,only your status in Mysejahtera is changed if you didn't get the booster starting tomorrow.

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Mar 31 2022, 01:31 PM)
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QUOTE(MRaef @ Mar 31 2022, 01:32 PM)
Every week Selangkah vaccination program still sending notifications to Selangor people to get their booster shot and it's Sinovac, fyi.

Where does it says Sinovac is obsolete?
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probably ts talk about 2dose sinobek without booster loss their full vaccination status.
but that doesnt mean that 3 dose sinobek lose their full vaccination status anytime soon.

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 31 2022, 02:28 PM)
Who cares? As long I’m healthy no symptoms why i care what a tests say. Is this a competition.
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What test say? Senka said because “bad in human realtionship”

Wooosh
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instead of pfizer, sinovac whatever, taking care of your own body immune system is the best protection
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Mar 31 2022, 12:16 PM)
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QUOTE(halglory @ Mar 31 2022, 03:57 PM)
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QUOTE(MRaef @ Mar 31 2022, 01:32 PM)
Every week Selangkah vaccination program still sending notifications to Selangor people to get their booster shot and it's Sinovac, fyi.

Where does it says Sinovac is obsolete?

The vaccine is still valid,only your status in Mysejahtera is changed if you didn't get the booster starting tomorrow.
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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Mar 31 2022, 12:28 PM)
Those countries that use Pfizer aren't doing better, if not worse.
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3 months later, is pfizer turn, no booster shot, your vaccines cert will be null
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Mar 31 2022, 12:17 PM)
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I just asked a question !!
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QUOTE(burnin @ Mar 31 2022, 01:58 PM)
The CodeBlue article on Malaysian Covid deaths can be found at the link below.

https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2022/01/04...g-unvaccinated/
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codeblue? kekkkkkkkkkkk
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Mar 31 2022, 03:58 PM)
Removed liao punde
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cis terlepas punde
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QUOTE(burnin @ Mar 31 2022, 12:58 PM)
The CodeBlue article on Malaysian Covid deaths can be found at the link below.

https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2022/01/04...g-unvaccinated/
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If you say taking pfizer vs Sinovac reduce my chances of dying from 30% to 10%, ok that’s something to ponder. But actually, it’s only from 3/100000 to 1/100000. Nah I think I’ll just be fine with Sinovac then.
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Dey punde go post one in Hnggghhh section there can mou?
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I think it is a sabotage on Sinovac by western countries to degrade it??
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Dey punde go post one in Hnggghhh section there can mou?
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bruce.gif I post real punde in Hnggh section laugh.gif

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status of 2 dosed Pfizer vaccine also became incomplete, white colored, in MySj. a**h**e
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My PRC counterpart going to be super vaccine man soon..

he has to go to Germany soon to meet his boss...

he had three sinovac shots... he thinking whether to get the two pzifer shots.. lol
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Mar 31 2022, 12:17 PM)
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Shh you provaxxers dont fight each other
Nanti kena myocarditis.. kena stroke, cardiac arrests

Just trust the science and take the incoming 4th dose okay
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2022, 01:11 PM)
guide me please.
i know the stats is there, but i dont know where to seek those.

even the github one i cant find it yet.
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...vaxstatus.ipynb <--- this didnt show whats vaccine kena cucuk
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...hs_malaysia.csv <-- no vaccine brand here
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...eaths_state.csv <-- no vaccine brand here.
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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/a...0263-7/fulltext

and browse to the middle then download the "Download .docx (.03 MB)"

Top right pdf also can download and read it.
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pi...%2821%2900263-7
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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 1 2022, 06:44 PM)
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/a...0263-7/fulltext

and browse to the middle then download the "Download .docx (.03 MB)"

Top right pdf also can download and read it.
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pi...%2821%2900263-7
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old data la boss (feb-nov 2021)
our concern right now is waning antibodies, you cant expect people to get cucuk every month.

one thing that get me curious were there is reply in this thread saying even 2 dose pfizer also not considered as fully vaccinated in mysejahtera.

the most recent (20-26th feb) covid deaths with vaccine brand figures were as per below:
pfizer - 114
sinobek - 85

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93787
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93794

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 1 2022, 06:51 PM)
old data la boss (feb-nov 2021)
our concern right now is waning antibodies, you cant expect people to get cucuk every month.

one thing that get me curious were there is reply in this thread saying even 2 dose pfizer also not considered as fully vaccinated in mysejahtera.
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I know people gonna sayit's old data but if you think deeper, the situation hasn't change.
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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 1 2022, 07:24 PM)
I know people gonna sayit's old data but if you think deeper, the situation hasn't change.
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nope,
the most recent (20-26th feb) covid deaths with vaccine brand figures were as per below:
pfizer - 114
sinobek - 85

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93787
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93794

i trying to find latest figure in moh github (https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-public/tree/main/notebooks), couldnt find it, i guess they choose not to make this data public anymore.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 1 2022, 07:26 PM)
nope,
the most recent (20-26th feb) covid deaths with vaccine brand figures were as per below:
pfizer - 114
sinobek - 85

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93787
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93794

i trying to find latest figure in moh github (https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-public/tree/main/notebooks), couldnt find it, i guess they choose not to make this data public anymore.
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u need to get the ratio, not death number
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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Mar 31 2022, 12:28 PM)
Those countries that use Pfizer aren't doing better, if not worse.
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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 1 2022, 07:27 PM)
u need to get the ratio, not death number
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doesnt look like 3 times greater to me.
so which part are you saying the situation didnt change?
now what curious me is how waned vaccine brand a compared to waned vaccine brand b.


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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 1 2022, 07:30 PM)
doesnt look like 3 times greater to me.
so which part are you saying the situation didnt change?
now what curious me is how waned vaccine brand a compared to waned vaccine brand b.
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just wondering what's your math score and level. You need ratio data (total % of pfizer, AZ and sinovac) and also longer period of death number (bigger sample data for higher accuracy).

Situation didn't change means all kind of vaccines don't have upgrade version.

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 1 2022, 07:45 PM)
just wondering what's your math score and level. You need ratio data (total % of pfizer, AZ and sinovac) and also longer period of death number.

Situation didn't change means all kind of vaccines don't have upgrade version.
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first of all we are not presented with enough data, how to get our own figures. its true im cherrypicking,but that because i want the most recent data. not the data that we gathered one or two month after cucuk. dont forget that most population were cucuk with pfizer because most kids/teens were given with that brand of vaccine and kids/teens or even young adult have lower probability to got killed by kobis, this will likely to skewed the result even more.

second, all vaccines antibodies waned, the quality drop over time, some may waned faster, some may waned slower. antibodies count doesnt necessary mean better quantity. like for example if you have 50 people equipped with machete vs 5 tigers compared to 10 people armed with gun vs 5 tigers, the former are may kill those tigers quickly . but in a situation where we left with 25 people with machete vs 5 tigers compared to 5 people armed with gun vs 5 tigers, will the same situation remains?

if the situation didnt change, then there is not much reason to cucuk booster shot for those so called quality vaccine as we are not expecting good RoI. we are just wasting resources


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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 1 2022, 08:12 PM)
first of all we are not presented with enough data, how to get our own figures. its true im cherrypicking,but that because i want the most recent data. not the data that we gathered one or two month after cucuk. dont forget that most population were cucuk with pfizer because most kids/teens were given with that brand of vaccine and kids/teens or even young adult have lower probability to got killed by kobis, this will likely to skewed the result even more.

second, all vaccines antibodies waned, the quality drop over time, some may waned faster, some may waned slower. antibodies count doesnt necessary mean better quantity. like for example if you have 50 people equipped with machete vs 5 tigers compared to 10 people armed with gun vs 5 tigers, the former are may kill those tigers quickly . but in a situation where we left with 25 people with machete vs 5 tigers compared to 5 people armed with gun vs 5 tigers, will the same situation remains?

if the situation didnt change, then there is not much reason to cucuk booster shot for those so called quality vaccine as we are not expecting good RoI. we are just wasting resources
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If you really want those data, dig deeper in google search. You can find other countries (or WHO) for those data. I am working atleast 15 hours per day, so I am not gonna dig it anymore. You should go learn advanced google operators (phrase match, exact match, inurl, intile, filetype and etc)
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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 1 2022, 08:28 PM)
If you really want those data, dig deeper in google search. You can find other countries (or WHO) for those data. I am working atleast 15 hours per day, so I am not gonna dig it anymore. You should go learn advanced google operators (phrase match, exact match, inurl, intile, filetype and etc)
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the only thing i want is the raw data for malaysia, so where is it?

i was under impression that those moh github portal give the most detailed data, but it doesnt contains the data that i wanted which is covid19 deaths by brands.

last time people use this kind of data saying pfizer 3x time better in term of death counts (may reflecting on amount of severe cases too), but that old story, whats the most recent data saying now?

also my last check:
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/92505
6-12feb:
pfizer - 29
sinobek - 21

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93005
13-19feb:
pfizer - 62
sinobek - 56

at the moment i want to judge if mrna based vaccine is worth taking despite of more unwanted side effect and the risks of our body cells being targeted by the immunity system? i guess not. probably it will be very best for short period protections.

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