alright guys lets get serious, hitting 80mil soon..

1. So why dont they youtube livestream their draw, ok i get it some of will say can go to their building and see it real life

2. What's stopping them from backdating a winning ticket?

3. can someone please hack into their system and backdate a winning ticket?

LLK ftw

If if if, so many if

Why are you even interested in sports toto whereby hack or not you have little chance of winning.

Yup, very very very less chances of hitting the lottery...

Better save money than playing 4D, 6D, etc.

i dont really care if the chances is small. When i buy the ticket, i already know very small chance, but never zero.

i just want to know why these scammer can walk on the street just like that without any audit or anything. it's like free printing money for them.

Scam or not I dunno but I do have one neighbor that won 12.7m and straight move out from that neighborhood lol

ask so much

u got higher chance if u aak laulikung to teach u

Prolly backdoor give to gomen

you 100% sure they won?

you buy then lose. where is the scam?

The draw is open to public, can go see if u want, details at their website

110%

they can backdate a winning ticket..

That's not what constitute a scam.
They never promise you anything.
You buy lottery, that's on you.
They didn't lie say you get something for your money.

58 choose 6 = the factorial of 58 divided by all over the factorial of 58-6 times the factorial of 6.

The result is — 40,475,358 possible combinations all in all.


Therefore, your chance or probability of winning a system 6/58 lottery is 1:40,475,358 or 0.00000247%.

In small hometwon got couple who won a mil

who say they can backdate?

anyway, ticket is tagged to draw no, not date

This post has been edited by jmas: Mar 21 2022, 05:59 PM

who say they cannot? dude, backdate a winning ticket along with the draw no la..

This post has been edited by H.K. Lee: Mar 21 2022, 06:01 PM

how to backdate?

the draw conducted in front audience la, u got time can go. cuci mata

mc ocean also never promise you that you'll be rich after joining them, so where's the scam?

once the draw numbers announced, system already will announce whether got winners. unless u mean they cincai generate one ticket and win themselves. this one i doubt.

lottery operators got strict guidelines to follow, u wan to risk 1 winning ticket for 20 years license?

bro, you can literally print a winning ticket yourself.. just that whatever you print is not recognized in their system.

that where the point of abuse is, they can print it themselves. who's to audit them? no one is going to check them.

why not? who is the one enforcing the 'strict' guideline?

no more lah.... 3 winner get the price already... what a waste... I invested so much. 1 bulu pun tarak

What's MC Ocean? I never join also?

U don't know now toto has centralize data for all the tickets?

The pick is done with live audience la. You can go too if you want.

So its even rigged. Now they decide when will someone actually win.

World lottery association...

If u worry, then dont buy lo.. dont burn ur money ma

that does not hinder them to print a winning ticket after the result is out..

u tak sukak u bukak lottery company sendiri

Tak faham mcm mana backdate
Date already print, hpw backdate?

when i strike then i let u know ya

this wednesday i gonna buy,.. if i kena,.. i belanja makan big big,..

Later one MB use this to wash white his money owaii
Toto boss get 30mil
MB get 50mil

This post has been edited by papaya2: Mar 21 2022, 07:26 PM

Sounds plausible.

Deswai most winners come from certain states lol.

Judi haram. Bertaubatlah

He say ,wait the draw come out at 7.20pm, then faster go print a ticket backdate to 6.55pm before closing. Lol

Some more tax free lol don’t forget this is boleh land

Baru?

This post has been edited by Aligee: Mar 22 2022, 08:08 PM

It's a sport

Who the guideline department?
Jabatan TOTO Malaysia?

Google then u know lo.. world lottery association la, u think everybody can open company sell lottery ke... Adui

What is not possible at this era?


This post has been edited by Aligee: Mar 22 2022, 08:09 PM

30mil only. Do u know sportstoto net profit for FY 2022 is 150m? Next year projected is 200-250m.

You believe the boss will be willing to trade undertable 30m, for 150m clean profit?

This post has been edited by pisces88: Mar 21 2022, 07:35 PM

'world lottery association'???? WTF!

Gov official there to validate the draw not play suka what number je

Sounds funny. But u can google lol

Damn so many naive ppl here... They think like movies the balls can manipulate suka hati one

This post has been edited by pisces88: Mar 21 2022, 07:37 PM

Then still don understand, what the point? Can scam ppl like that?
Print ticket follow system time, where can sudden adjust time print again

If they livestream their draw then how does hacking accomplish that?

Lose-money business!


This post has been edited by Aligee: Mar 22 2022, 08:10 PM

He say they can suka suka print whatever time and date wor.. to scam those buyers lo, then take the winning ticket claim themselves. Means toto ppl claim themselves

Actually there a gov department handle this kind of things one , fee rom toto to bank lucky draw ..

U think the profit 150mil all go his pocket meh

But 20years license wor... If u are boss, u will take 30m in exchange to ur toto license or not? Gg

You know who is UMNO Largest proxy, now?


This post has been edited by Aligee: Mar 22 2022, 08:11 PM

Backdate? Lollll naive-nya TS.

it's gambling. which part of it is not supposed to take away your wealth?

Oh ok, then u buy lo. Then u eat all the draw money lo, every draw u backdate ticket lo

Every draw u win 50mil lo

That's mean you don't even know how Gambling operates!

Be careful. You are alleging fraud.

Anyway it is willing seller, willing buyer. No one is forcing you to bet.

Then ts should apply work on there
Must kaya

Erm its ok, im a nobody. But i hope u keep ur theory to yourself.. dont tell outside people vincent tan take 30m , and wash money 80m... Laugh die people..

the jp is only small % of the sales of the tickets. they earn so much what for scam u lol ...

you can say whatever you want. You guys are only guessing here. unless you tell me anyone who works in the company and their family are refrain from playing. then that's a very concrete method to prevent scam. or like in the US, it is in the law that the winner's identity be publish in the public, except for certain state.

you think this is funny and naive? are you joking? the higher up can simply keep one rigged ticket machine in the darkroom and print whenever the pool is high like what we are having now almost 80mil. who is going to audit their software? you say got government personel sit in their office, how much is their gaji?

This post has been edited by H.K. Lee: Mar 21 2022, 09:22 PM

They should publish it or live it, Thai lottery publish the draw on live tv

Dunno why ts sudden angry for what
Must feel cheated cuz never win over 20 years

i where got angry, kopitiam talk cock nia..just that i feel malaysia brain drain is really serious. kisah tak kisah attitude. that's why la, how to bangkit?

get ready to send our grandchildren to work as maid in foreign country soon.

Even they don't play fraud, that random combination of those 6 different numbers still only give you 0.00000247%

You just try if you feel you are lucky that day. If you hope to become rich this way, you are retarded.

actually when i buy the ticket, in my head im not really thinking about getting rich. Im buying that '0.00000247%' hope.. that retarted 'hope' keep me fresh for a week. lol..im already in a comfortable stage anyway.

i think i bought like 4-5times max in a year, usually for 3 draws.. but anyhow, that doesnt mean i agree with the corporation. people will scam, whenever there's loophole to scam..

the draw is open for public viewing la

but highly unlikely to win la

they got invite high level bomoh from thailand same way those hongkong lottery industry did it

you staying in msia bro. it's haram to 'promote' gambling in national tv

What bomoh do?

Bijan tu lagik lah bigger scam

It will be mine

a couple of years ago one of my FB frens posted a photo of his 4D ticket on FB during CNY.

i didn't think much about it la.

but every other week after that he'd upload a photo of a new conti car parked in his porch.

then i duno how i also chanced upon a news article about a dude from USJ winning big in the lottery, which is coincidentally where he stays.

i tried looking for the photo of his 4D ticket, but cannot find liao.

so u say leh what happened.

protect the business

even many major casino do it including western ones

eg : there is the empty 13th floor but the lift wont mention it or even able to go there

the irony of MY having 3 legal betting company is mind blown

1. Actually u can go to their office for live viewing.

2. Why they want to risk their trust and more importantly LICENSE? Even if got winner and amount reset still will have gambler add money into the pool. FYI in case u think they use the money to rolling or invest to earn more, u are wrong coz the money is strictly audited and they not allowed to touch it.

3. Front is white side, rear is dark side. U dare to kacau? Not only white will chop u black also will chop u

I believe their auditor is EY. Correct me if I'm wrong.

There's a hearsay Mr V want to give this lucky present to a Mahrehsian, personally a big prize.


The winner got chance win nearly a 100m jackpot macam 1% Berjaya shares. Grand Ultimate Prize. Please try your luck today, RM500 above or go home. Go big or go home.

This post has been edited by fu'house: Mar 22 2022, 12:15 AM

It's better for an Independent eg; Auditor's company to come out with the winning number than themself!
Best still, use the 'old method' Horse-racing combination to get the actual winning combo.
Therefore, no 'hanky-panky' can be done or use football jersey winning number combo.

This post has been edited by LaSat: Mar 22 2022, 08:12 PM

Untuk tujuan kebajikan, halal... Sapa2 menang duit loteri tu, kira dapat
bantuan kebajikan lah...

Ppl already explain to you nicely and you don't want to accept and think all these are some sort of conspiracy.

Do you know all the info of the tickets are centralized in the database server? How do you print a backdated ticket on a rigged machine that is not sync with the database timestamp? Whose seller ID it gonna be? Boss own ID? Lol.

You may even question the game is rigged so that it is near impossible to win, but to say they can simply backdate a ticket themselves is just a baseless accusation. Btw they hire big4 to audit them, and if I rmbr correctly, they need to validate those big winning ticket. so would you like to question big4's integrity?

Jangan persoal mana wang tax gambling pergi atau diguna oleh siapa.
Janji semua donasi halal.

Ban this ban that tokok sing song. Challenge lah tax from haram sauce pls dont mix use.

Better to use Real Horse racing, to come out with the 'winning number'! More Reliable!

Actually until today I still dunno how horse racing can determine what number gets 1st, 2nd, 3rd, special and consolation in 4D.

This let you understand easier.

Better, not to know!

But anyway, depends on the rules & permutation of the games eg; Genting Casino they got alot of games & all the games got rules for you to win!

Old Horse Racing, winning numbers depends on the Horse Winning Ranking eg;

1st Horse, No: 8 wins, first-digit = 8
2nd Horse, No: 3 wins, 2nd-digit = 3

Follow, so!

This game is Legend! Rob my youth!

I didn't win, so it is scam

Bro every draw is live and open to audience.I think a decade ago i went to their main opis to view the live draw ..It’s in berjaya Times Square..So it can’t be backdated as you claimed lol ..technically in order to fraud the thing 1) you need to have a fast enough computer to find out the numbers that no one bought and 2) once u know no one have that number u pick and printed that winning numbers. 3) This is the best part , winning numbers balls are slightly more heavier so the machine will definitely pick those

This post has been edited by yeezai: Mar 22 2022, 12:52 AM

That's why nowdays Youngster all bet-bola, only uncle play TOTO!
Football is like Horse-racing, it's more excited!

This post has been edited by LaSat: Mar 22 2022, 08:14 PM

What TS is saying in essence and what I’ve been saying for years is that there’s no regulatory body to oversee & audit all matters related to the gaming industry. In US they have the Gaming Commission to regulate, same thing in Singapore. What do we have here other than the so called big4 auditing firms? Where is our Jabatan Judi Mesia? Lol..sounds ridiculous but it’s needed. Some say we can view the draw live? Who’s invited? Or we can just walk in just like that?

This is Malaysia..we live here & understand there can be a lot of hanky panky. It’s millions of ringgit & more as gamblers try their luck & would in put in more money with the hope of winning. Who’s “safeguarding” their bets?

yup u can walk in to berjaya timesquare, draw is 7pm.

you can even participate in the draw, pick the balls. that one u need email them, there's an email address on their website

Spooky stuff man