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xenon koh
post Mar 6 2008, 04:57 PM

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yea...i wanna ask...y my ex5 when 2 riders time cornering is like boat like tat? feels very floaty...
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post Mar 7 2008, 03:52 AM

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QUOTE(xenon koh @ Mar 6 2008, 04:57 PM)
yea...i wanna ask...y my ex5 when 2 riders time cornering is like boat like tat? feels very floaty...
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very simply... your absobers are out... time to change oil and oil seals also. Do check the spring if there are out. Rear shocks cant be repaired. You need a pair of new set of shocks. Nowadays i think it is cheap and you can get allot of variety of those shocks in the sparepart shops. Just ask for the models that can be used/fix into your bike. nod.gif


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about the comparison of the bikes --> CBR150R and FZ150i

CBR FZ150i
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6 speed 5 speed
DOHC SOHC (single overhead cam)
Carburetor Fuel injection (i)
18.98 (HP) 11.1 (HP)

63.5 (piston) 57mm(piston)
47.2 (stroke) 58.7(stoke)
11.0:1 (compression) 10.4 (compression)


GEAR RATIO
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ok guys , based on the specification that i can conclude that the CBR is so much powerful ! the pickup wise i would say the CBR would be better since it has a ratio of 3.083 compared to the FZ 2.833 -( if the two bikes is almost the same wieght). Final gear for the CBR is 0.923 (24/26) -same like wave 125, wherest the FZ has 0.956 (22/23)-same like 135LC. From what i see from the specification given, the CBR has a close gear ratio compared to FZ. The closer the better because there will be no much power lost during shifting gears. When comes to 5th gear... i bet the CBR will be a head of the FZ. CBR has the nearest ratio to 1:1. Meaning that the CBR stock ratio is 1.041 and the FZ 4th gear 1.142. As i told you 1.0= 1:1 is the best combination of power. why manufacture put every vichicle (car &bikes - NOT including superbikes or Harley bikes -their final gear is 1:1 notworthy.gif
Final gear is under 1:1 (1.0) is because to save petrol. Example of gear ratio is under 1:1(1.0) is 22/23, 24/26, 23/24 and etc....

well... you must be wondering why i compare 5th gear (CBR) with 4th gear (FZ). It is becuase we cannot judge the bikes if we take both same gear. Fz only have in total of 5 speed, and the CBR has 6 gears. More gears doesnt mean faster ! More gears is to devide the work (power) to each gear. Example CBR from 3.083 to 0.923 and have 6 gears... so power lost will be a bit lesser. If you dont understand, imagine this... IF the CBR have only 2 gears (1st and 2nd) from 3.083 (1st) drop to 0.923 (2nd) do you know how heavy for the engine to move ? ok la... another example is bicycle with gears. If you set the gear to the lightest and suddently drop it to the most heavy gear to cycle, do you feel it is so hard to move? that is the power lost !

When the CBR hits 6th gear (top gear) and Fz hits 5th gear (top gear), i will say that the CBR will be heavier since the ratio (0.923) is further than 1 , when the Fz is lighter since the ratio is 0.956 nearer to 1.

talking about ratio... it is so hard to estimate which gears give the best. Depends on which condition you want your bike to perform. 24/24 is also 1:1=1, 25/25 is also 1:1=1, 23/23 is also 1:1=1,....etc rclxub.gif

*Tips-The bigger power your bike have... use bigger gears but keep the ratio near to 1 or either 1. *



CARBURETOR
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As you all might know that the CBR is using carburetor, while the FZ using fuel injection.
Want more power on CBR ? just change bigger carburetor mikuni flatside / keihin FCR ... dont worry.. police cant see or poeople will not even know or steal it... it is hidden under the petrol tank. Not like EX5 cry.gif
It is so much easier to tweak the CBR compared to the FZ. No extra wiring job.

overall the carburetor is so much easier to maintain and give less problem.


CDI
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Both bike are powered by CDI. The CBR CDI is good enough since it can give you more than 10K RPM, when the FZ only give you max power on 8500 RPM. Want more ? mod it... hehe.. change CDI.

CBR CDI is using direct current CDI system. Same like most of the bikes. What this means ? ok... do you know that some bikes needs battery for the CDI to operate ? If the battery is 'kong' you cant start the engine. So dont worry CBR wont have this kind of problem since it is using the direct current CDI. For Fz... i cant tell since i dont know and the specification is not given in detail. Maybe who owns that bike can give his review here. Thanks.

BODY KIT
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i bet you guys do agree with me that the CBR has a better looking than the FZ (half naked ?)
The CBR handle bar is so much better than the FZ. doh.gif If i ride the FZ... i really feel that i m 20 years older tongue.gif



BREAKING SYSTEM
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CBR - FULL disk system ( rear & front )

FZ - Semi disk system ( Front - disk brek , rear drum brek)


Which bike have better stopping power ? i think you already know the answer since both bikes have 150cc on the wheels.






I do know some of you have good or more technical knowledge more than me. STOP cursing my comments for this 2 bikes. If you have any kind of disagreement or any kind of knowlegde to share with all of here... please do so. I am really looking forward to learn more. This is what 'forum' is all about (sharing knowledge). -not only sitting back there loughing and cursing me for any mistake that had been written up there. Thank you for reading, dont flame me biggrin.gif


*EDITED the spelling mistakes

This post has been edited by wevilli: Mar 7 2008, 04:08 AM
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post Mar 7 2008, 03:55 AM

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wow...got prepare wor...lol lol
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post Mar 7 2008, 03:56 AM

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wow wow wow

where you copy it?

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post Mar 7 2008, 03:59 AM

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QUOTE(zacevox @ Mar 7 2008, 03:56 AM)
wow wow wow

where you copy it?

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hello.. what copy ? my own personal review la... if you think i copy from somewhere... you can ask the moderator to ban me from this forum ok ? sweat.gif
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post Mar 7 2008, 04:05 AM

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er....just wanna ask one question here.
how long do u think age of scooter compare with kapcai? unsure.gif

coz in south east asia,at the end,peoples prefer kapcai..
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Mar 7 2008, 03:55 AM)
wow...got prepare wor...lol lol
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haha.. no la.. never prepared... took me more than 1 hour to think and write based on the specification given online.
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post Mar 7 2008, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(wlp9185 @ Mar 6 2008, 12:54 PM)
brows.gif u go rempit on sat nite or not? brows.gif
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how to rempit my moto is year 1990. Cannot reach 100km/hr. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 7 2008, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(sani_othman @ Mar 7 2008, 04:05 AM)
er....just wanna ask one question here.
how long do u think age of scooter compare with kapcai?  unsure.gif

coz in south east asia,at the end,peoples prefer kapcai..
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so far i know passola 50cc is 1st at scooter in malaysia
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post Mar 7 2008, 02:38 PM

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how much on-the-road price for cbr150 and fz150i??? how much per month if i pay deposit rm2000


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post Mar 7 2008, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(knight_kriss @ Mar 7 2008, 02:38 PM)
how much on-the-road price for cbr150 and fz150i??? how much per month if i pay deposit rm2000
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i know cbr is more than 10k but 4got for yamaha...n not all shop accept RM2k for deposit.it depends
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post Mar 8 2008, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(wevilli @ Mar 7 2008, 03:52 AM)
very simply... your absobers are out... time to change oil and oil seals also. Do check the spring if there are out. Rear shocks cant be repaired. You need a pair of new set of shocks. Nowadays i think it is cheap and you can get allot of variety of those shocks in the sparepart shops. Just ask for the models that can be used/fix into your bike.  nod.gif
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whoa so fast worn out? only 1 yr + my bike... swt... btw which brand do u recommend? the price around how much?
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post Mar 8 2008, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Mar 5 2008, 11:45 PM)
sure honda wave lor...honda mah...
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how about spare part price and availability in market?which one more cheaper and easy to get.. hmm.gif
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post Mar 8 2008, 03:57 PM

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spare parts all the same de...no matter yamaha,honda or modenas.all got their own price.n everywhr also can find their parts
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post Mar 9 2008, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Yashiro @ Mar 6 2008, 12:56 PM)
yeah,u compare with older generation nsr and cbr,,kurus also what..
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that why i bought NSR 150 RR......... brows.gif

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post Mar 9 2008, 07:36 PM

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good thing for cub bikers.....you can rempit all the time as khairy wins
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post Mar 9 2008, 08:04 PM

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Yea to all mat rempits be the slogan

Selagi Enjin Motor aku tak mati , aku takkan mati. cheers biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2008, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Yashiro @ Mar 9 2008, 08:04 PM)
Yea to all mat rempits be the slogan

Selagi Enjin Motor aku tak mati , aku takkan mati. cheers  biggrin.gif
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but sometimes (actually most of the times) aku mati dulu sebelum enjin motor aku mati.......... brows.gif

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post Mar 10 2008, 01:12 PM

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just tried lagenda ZR...not bad.the speedometer is in blue light too
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post Mar 10 2008, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Mar 10 2008, 01:12 PM)
just tried lagenda ZR...not bad.the speedometer is in blue light too
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is there any difference in lagenda ZR ?

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