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post Apr 16 2023, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 16 2023, 08:41 AM)
- KDI Save's returns : $10,000*(1+3.5%)^(1/365)-1 = $0.9425 interest daily
I had wanted to raise queries, but I came to these conclusions, am I wrong?
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no, KDI interest will not be constant at 0.9425 daily
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1. I thought compound interest is superior to regular FD but in a real world, both FD and KDI Save rate "compounding the interest and principal over time" after a year results 10,350 same as FD.

confused.gif you are comparing a 3.4403% p.a. daily compounding with a 3.50% p.a. simple
so what is wrong with compounding > simple?
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post Apr 18 2023, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 17 2023, 10:15 AM)
I am not comparing 3.4403% but a KDI Save's 3.5% against conventional FD 3.5%.
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that is kind of meaningless
because if you take KDI's EAR 3.5%, you are only comparing with FD with 1-year maturity (underlying assumption on daily compounding for 365 days)

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post Apr 19 2023, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 11:47 AM)
Just a question to ask, if KDI go busted, does it mean all our funds inside will be gone too?
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theoretically yes, is there any investment that protects capital? lol.gif
perhaps recover partially depending on the financial position
QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 12:17 PM)
From what i noticed, most of the people only concern about the interest rate and the withdrawal time. Not many people actually asking how secured this KDI is and it seems no information available where they deposit our money too.
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because they equate mmf with fd
QUOTE(yayai @ Apr 19 2023, 01:02 PM)
^ This, I kinda trust Kenanga, they existed before I was even born, don't think they will go bust so easily

However I hate this KDI's non transparency and website/app looks very immature. I don't give a s**t about withdrawal time and the 3.5 now is just meh
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lehman, svb also existed before i was born lol.gif
nevertheless, i still have savings with them in a hope that not all of them go bust / system down etc at the same time
ya, started goinvest because of KDI 3.5% biggrin.gif
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post May 19 2023, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ May 18 2023, 09:58 PM)
I noticed that the interests is no longer compounded and the interests is given only on the "Net Deposit".

I remembered when KDi save started, the interests are compounded (interests is calculated based on the balance from yesterday after interests credited).

Is that the case now?
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unlikely, because you won't get EAR 3.5% in that case
my difference would be RM 0.01, so won't be a good benchmark
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post Jun 1 2023, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(download88 @ May 31 2023, 03:48 PM)
KDi invest performance seem ok now? start seeing positive return ... finally
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US ETF perhaps hmm.gif

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post Jun 15 2023, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Vickyle @ Jun 15 2023, 08:56 AM)
Have been away from Kenanga for quite a while. I remembered their EAR terminology has different definition. So, what's the actual EAR of the advertised 4% EAR?
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roughly 3.92
=((1.04)^(1/365)-1)*365
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Aug 17 2023, 10:16 AM)
Sorry to bring this up again, haven't got time to read it up yet. I am sure this has been discussed before, I will do some reading later if this request is too much.

Does the interest earned compounds? if it doesn't, should i withdraw the interest earned and then subsequently deposit back into the KDI Save as part of the capital to earn more interest?
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yes, the interest is credited daily and become your principal
no need to withdraw and redeposit
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post Sep 1 2023, 09:33 AM

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previously thought go+ is highly liquid but after the entire TNG went down last time
i realised that any system could fail
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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Oct 1 2023, 01:57 AM)
Looking for an alternative to fd and came across this. It's not protected by pidm and your principal is subject to possible losses?
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u just need to be aware that money market fund may invest in bond/sukuk, which may be subjected to default risk
how do u think goinvest providing a net return of 3.7% p.a. while go+ was around 3.5% p.a.?
u may assess the risk by reviewing the goinvest/go+ interim report
unfortunately, there is none for KDI
if u r looking for higher return, surely u need to take on additional risk
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QUOTE(leanman @ May 4 2024, 10:47 AM)
Is putting some in KDI a good bet, looking at 6-12 months tenure? Already I have split it out between FD and digital banks. Still learning what’s MMF
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not exactly a bet, good diversification
depending on your need on return vs liquidity
those with higher return could potentially come with higher risk
if the bank failed to recover loan --> fd at risk (therefore, PIDM would be another protection)
MMF might also invest in corporate bond to generate higher return, so if the company fails --> MMF at risk
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QUOTE(Batusai @ May 26 2024, 02:00 PM)
I see. meaning the net deposit should be 50k to max out the full interest given.

And whatever interest that is earned actually dont give any returns? eg no compounding effect am I right?
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i m not sure about which tier u would get for the interest on interest
but if u understand the definition of their 'Effective annual rate' from the FAQ, u would not be asking this question
because u will never get 4% p.a. if the interest is not compounding

in short, the return will be based on your total balance instead of net deposit

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QUOTE(ssiapf @ Jun 7 2024, 09:51 AM)
How is the 4% fixed effective annual rate calculated , ?
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can be found in the KDI Save FAQ

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QUOTE(faizalfaizal @ Jul 5 2024, 11:27 AM)
It is a wise move to put 50k in KDI Invest Agressive Mode now? My UT in bank are doing well now and almost double up. So can I see it as a good signal?
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we will only know whether it's wise move or not several years later sweat.gif
depending on your risk appetite & investment duration
but i would place larger amount when i think it's close to bottom / low downside risk instead of during upside trend
the rest of the time DCA will probably be safer
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QUOTE(frankliew @ Aug 2 2024, 01:26 PM)
Versa Cash now 4.04% nett
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1. should have updated in versa thread instead
2. by nett you mean compounding the return between 1 July 2024 and 31 July 2024 for 12 months
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pretty meaningless when the return fluctuates from month to month
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Aug 8 2024, 10:12 AM)
For decade long investment, won't something with less risk is more sensible? Such as epf, kdi save, and property.
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higher risk does not guarantee higher return
depending on your investment horizon, u r less likely to suffer greater loss in low risk investment when u r forced to sell in bad market times
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can't really pick which 10-year period u would be in

when an investment suffers a 5% drop in 1 year, it requires a 16% gain in year 2 to catch up the same annualised return of 5%
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no one size fits all, diversify well
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Jan 14 2025, 05:27 PM)
upon calculation, the interest is only 3.91%, can i know why ?
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because u didn't read the T&C, the definition of EAR in particular
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Mar 7 2025, 08:29 AM)
After 50k in kdi save, you guys still continue or diversify? Put in epf? Is 3% still attractive?
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unless u r in retirement age, EPF is in different category
ASNB would probably be a closer option
most FD promo now is around 3.7% or above if liquidity is not an issue
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QUOTE(FloralEmbrace @ Mar 24 2025, 09:20 AM)
Is the interest calculated on daily rest for KDI Save? This is the calculation I did but it doesn’t match what KDI shows in the ap. App shows RM89.96 which I cannot get from my computation
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well, you won't get interest for 24/3 yet but u would get interest for 13/3
4% EAR for the 1st RM 50,000
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post Jun 26 2025, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(PoorButHumble @ Jun 26 2025, 10:20 AM)
same case like you. made withdrawal on 24th June @6pm then by right should received by 25th June evening. Call to check and they assure me today will get the funds as it's still within the processing timeline between 1-2 working days. But I argue with them from 24th 25th 26th is already 3 days. they say not like that.
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u have to count same day from the withdrawal cutoff, the terminology would be T+0
so they are not wrong

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QUOTE(PoorButHumble @ Jun 26 2025, 12:19 PM)
Then can you explain this? Why not 13th? How come same day can receive?
Why no standard one? Sometimes 1 day, sometimes 2 days?
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well unfortunately, i have no answer for that as i do not work at kdi or relevant company
e.g.
my bank standing instruction payments do not debit the same time each month
duitnow payment to credit card account failed due to recipient bank's issue
the point is that it could due to many reasons
as long as it does not exceed 2 business days, it is well within their responsibility


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