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post Oct 19 2022, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Oct 19 2022, 01:39 PM)
mass withdrawal a couple of days before will do the trick
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Yes come do mass withdrawal
Today i sent RM200k x5 out
to citibank 4.8% FD.

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post Oct 19 2022, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 19 2022, 02:30 PM)
Uhmm the short-term rates in Malaysia hasn't climbed that high yet... This is not an SGD or USD product...


Before you get too happy, where is the extra yield coming from... you can figure out yourself. wink.gif

In pursuit of ever-rising rates, one shall never lose sight of the risks accompanied by it, if any.
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Campaign/Promotion/development budget.....
not much also lah only RM50k each
they need more of numbers on paper rather than profit...

QUOTE(cybpsych @ Oct 19 2022, 05:05 PM)
kdi edm just now ... trying to counter Versa?

guy3288 would be happy too, KDI's incoming FPX limit increased to RM300k. just need the sender bank's limit to match too (got any bank offer RM300k FPX?)

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300k per transaction? Not much use unless KDI can get the banks to allow that first...
daily limit is not a problem from KDI, it is bank limiting..

If KDI people reading, Follow Versa, FSm, Phillip eUT to allow more than 1 bank accs for withdrawal purpose,
only 1 now makes it difficult to move big amount in 1 day online..


QUOTE(cybpsych @ Oct 19 2022, 05:11 PM)
trying to lock in your $$ before 1 Nov  laugh.gif
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actually no locking at all, can freely move as we like
this is the beauty of KDI..support
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post Oct 20 2022, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 19 2022, 10:47 PM)
Burn cash to capture market share, competitor driven out, then slaughter your customer!

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish! laugh.gif
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capture market share maybe
drive competitor out not easy unless KDI have very deep pocket to keep pampering us
slaughter us no way
people are like free flying birds

KDI safe is more like an attraction to bring us in
hoping some spill over fall in love with KDI Invest.. that is where the money is


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post Oct 23 2022, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 23 2022, 05:27 PM)
Security firm deposit does not need to be guaranteed by PIDM because they are very low risk accounts (hence the low rates given). I have quite a large investments in bank shares before and after i sold, i left them in the security firm account for quite some time (while deciding on my next move). I left them in that account because the returns given were very low so as far as i am concerned, this should reflect a very low risk environment. If the security firm deposit was giving me high deposit rates, i would have been a lot more concerned.

If fdi Save offers very low returns, i would feel much more comfortable sticking with them. If kdi Save increases their return to 7%/annum, i would pull my funds out the next day.

I don't wish to discuss more with you about PIDM as we could go on and on so i will stop the discussion here.

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I dont think money lying in security trust account is any safer just because there is hardly any interest,...similarly i dont think if KDI increased its campaign rates means it becomes more risky....the same goes for bank which offering different FD rates eg 3month 3.3% and 18month 4.4 % i dont think that 18month FD is riskier.
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post Oct 25 2022, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Oct 25 2022, 05:06 PM)
Anyone tried this before?

Today after 11am, make withdrawal RM X from KDI Save, profile is Bank A

Tomorrow before 11am, go profile change to Bank B, then withdraw RM Y

What's the outcome of doing this?

RM X+Y to Bank B

Or

RM X to Bank A, RM Y to Bank B
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You WD after 11am, it will be processed next day
next day your bank is Bank B

i guess you will get all money X+Y in bank B
processing is around 4pm so even if morning your profile is Bank A, by 4pm if it is bank B money will be in Bank B

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post Oct 31 2022, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Oct 30 2022, 11:11 AM)
Thks for info. Ayam jumping ship also liao.

Edited: Wait, after 30k is 2.5%? Then only put max 30k there.
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give it a trial , i just deposited RM29k+ top up my Versa Cash to make in near RM30k

in terms of speed of deposit and withdrawal, Versa cant fight KDI
interest calculation also cant fight KDi's very transparent interest that can easily be checked.

Now the most important thing is
1)how fast deposited money is captured and starts earning interest in Versa and
2)how fast we get back after click withdrawal in Versa

Assuming deposit in lose 2-3 days, withdrawal out lose 2-3 days compared to KDI
total loss days = 6,

Versa offering 4% first RM30k also cant beat KDI 3.5%

Transfer from your 1st RM30k from KDI to Versa, you rugi

extra earned from RM30k x 0.5% in 30D =RM12.33
6Days loss of interest in KDI =RM30k x 3.49% x6/365 =RM17.21

Even if you have RM80k in KDI and you transfer the excess RM30k out to Versa still rugi
as you sacrifice RM14.74 for 6 days interest loss.

So Versa you wanna beat KDI 3.5% make sure you dont take too long, max in and out total 4 days still can consider
if 6 days sorry lah no point we move out from KDi





QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 31 2022, 06:32 PM)
I did not follow what you and him are actually discussing.

I just remembered this post 1090 when Kdi Save gives 3% pa for the 1st 200k.
Thus hope the below post is relevant to your discussion.
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may not be applicable , in any case the difference is tiny, insignificant
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post Nov 1 2022, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Nov 1 2022, 10:09 AM)
Nice tips. I think too much trouble for too little money. Just leave it in KDI while waiting for OPR naik now. Hopefully next week got more Bank join action. HLB still no new promo yet.
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New money from elsewhere can try versa
If WD from Kdi to Versa not Worth it methinks
WD lose 1 day put in versa lose 2days..
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post Nov 2 2022, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Nov 1 2022, 11:57 PM)
TBH I always enjoy seeing millionaires debating about moving RM30k around and discussing the rm5 difference over several months between two options.

Sometimes a Grab driver deliver food to us in the rain also most people would give a rm5 tip to them already. That's also about the hourly parking rate at some KL parking lots... 😅

The numbers are good to know, but it is hardly life changing.

PS: Anyway, I maxxed out my funds in Versa and KDI too...
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You are missing the main point of the post.

It was meant to say think first before act.
(worth it or not to jump from 3.5% to 4.0%)

You think it was meant to tell you go Versa earn few dollar extra?
Wake up bro, read again.

Just like you must also think first before open your mouth.

How can you compare giving tips to an action meant to make money?
People switch from KDi to Versa for fun?

Your maths too good la: giving tips same as switching fund
close 2 eyes no need to check and pray for the best......doh.gif





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post Nov 2 2022, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Nov 2 2022, 12:55 AM)
Fact remains that the entire comparison ends up with a rm5 difference between the choice of switch or don't switch. No need think anything else. If you want to make money focus your time somewhere else. That's my point. If you don't get that, then you also need to think harder about money.
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common sense la,
between 3.5% and 4% how BIG difference you expect?
ridiculous if you think switch from 3.5% to 4% can earn alot more.

you are still missing the point!

whole message is:

WORTH IT OR NOT
for those thinking to switch from KDI to Versa,..

dont just look a dollar and sen numbers only without understanding the message.

MESSAGE IS: may not be worth the trouble to switch!

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Nov 2 2022, 04:17 AM)
Just don’t bother as he is spewing nonsense anyway so called millionaire 🤦‍♀️

Versa the 2nd money is processed it will start buying the fund hence daily gain of 0.0001 with the exception of accumulation over the weekend
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you must be blind if cannot see the figures presented

and dumb as well with daily gain of 0.0001 ...... doh.gif

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post Nov 2 2022, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Nov 2 2022, 02:09 PM)
omg you are back

and this acccount is dated back to 2003? wow..you must be well prepared
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that dupe again? sounded familiar ...."brain damage despite stopped facepalming" kaki

QUOTE(download88 @ Nov 2 2022, 02:15 PM)
if kdi already max first 50k at 3.5%, is it worth to switch remaining 30k from kdi to versa for 4%?
since the next 50001 is 3% in kdi
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i have made some calculation earlier for people contemplating moving out to Versa...
but one pretend clever gooroo thought i was chasing after extra RM5 for myself!

i would say even above RM50k in KDi, not worth moving out to Versa if you need to move money
in and out like i did in KDI becos Versa is SLOW both ways

WD KDI lose 1 day, deposit Versa lose 2days. I can do that few times a month in KDi, no problem.
but if Versa susah, slow.


QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Nov 2 2022, 04:21 PM)
you should max Versa 30k first, then the rest only put in KDI Save..

4% in Versa interest paid once a month, 3.5% in KDI Save paid daily.
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He already have more than RM50k in KDI...that is why he asked.

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post Nov 3 2022, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Nov 3 2022, 11:29 AM)
calculation below. It is still worth even if there's delay 2 days for deposit to take effect with interest:

Versa:
30k - 4% - 58 days interest. Breakdown:
30000 x 0.04 = 1200 a year / 365 days = 3.28767 a day. 3.28767 x 58 = 190.68

KDI Save
30k - 3.5% - 60 days interest. Breakdown:
30000 x 0.35 = 1050 a year / 365 days = 2.8767 a day. 2.8767 x 60 = 172.60 (provided KDI Save still remains 3.5% up to 31st Dec 2022).

190.68-172.60 = difference of RM18.08. Versa still wins even with that 2 days delay in depositing into it.

If KDI Save boost up their interest to match Versa's 4%.. then make sense to continue use KDI Save.
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If transfer out from KDI to Versa ,lost interest is 3days, not 2
still can earn extra Rm14.80 yes
Next you did not take into account
1.Delay in getting money when withdraw
2.must stay put no withdrawal till end, unlike KDI in out in out
number of lost interest days much lesser compared to versa

Sikit extra ada, question is worth transfer out or not?
To earn that extra you need wait till complete 60days,
To lose that amount it happens instantly the moment you transfer out from KDI to Versa

Further how Versa calculate we dont know, unlike KDI i know exactly how much interest would be..end of day if versa pay lesser than your calculation they can excuse payout in units cant guarantee the unit price must maintain, no way we can argue

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Nov 3 2022, 01:51 PM)
no lar, if you withdraw halfway it's still counted.. will get interest depending on how many days your money was with Versa. Just that interest receive is at end of month and not daily.

anyhow I had logged a ticket to Versa. Will share their official response once received.
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say money in KDI, you Wd this morning before 11am, tonite you get money deposit to Versa
and 2 business days later start earns interest in Versa, today lost 1 day interest due to Wd from KDI
tomorrow and day after lost 2 days due to waiting for Versa to buy units -total lost 3 days right?

Now read the T&C you shared here:
The Campaign Reward will be paid to the User(s) on a first-come, first-serve basis. In the event the total Campaign Reward has been fully utilised, User(s) will continue to earn Versa’s base net return rate of 2.5% p.a.

Meaning base is 2.5% everyone sure can get

But extra 1.5% add up =4% , is not for everyone......upto the campaign allocation used up ,next customer may not get

teruk lah like this,,,,,,if the campaign attracted too many customers and the allocation extra 1.5% used up, whoever go in later wont get it, apa dapat? only 2.5%

Did you include this when you submitted query?
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I think this FCFS till allocation used up many dont know,
Everyone thinks oh Versa so good offering 4%
Small print there not aware


QUOTE(ycs @ Nov 3 2022, 02:58 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

i noticed that as well; and what if the campaign allocation is only 10k laugh.gif
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So kedekut meh Versa take out only RM10k to fish customers?
If like that i deposited so early also can miss the cut man...
Because that only can pay for 1st 266.7 customers and finished on 1st month itself..

Imagine there were 300 existing customers with min rm30000 before 1.11.22, apa kita dapat? Semua dapat 2.5% as versa must pay existing customers who were there on 1.11.22 12.00am

QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Nov 3 2022, 03:06 PM)
if really 2.5% then many will boycott Versa later...  mad.gif  :furious2:

will update next month onwards until January 2023, see if really 4% or 2.5%

I'm sure others using Versa will post about it too at the thread once interest received.
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If versa budget low you may get for November, Dec Jan may be allocation used up, by the time we know is too late, clever pay u only end of month, ha ha, no fight la compared to KDI
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Nov 9 2022, 06:27 PM)
I have received email from KDI asking for further info on my source of wealth. Got 3 questions.

I intend to ignore them. Lol.

Tak Suka, I will take my money elsewhere.
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Bro nothing to worry if you still want to use KDi
The questions may appear daunting my answer to them was simple and they accepted

more like formality.. just like when bank with hold your online transaction,
call up to verify then release the "hold".

i kena so many times esp CIMB, despite using their Apps approval done.

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Nov 9 2022, 06:34 PM)
some of those may be requirement by the authorities. if they are, only a matter of time others ask the same questions.
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as long as you dont trigger them, you wont kena that letter

QUOTE(Garysydney @ Nov 9 2022, 06:44 PM)
Are the questions worded like a survey or more like a official request for information?
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not like survey at all, is like wanting to know all your wealth.....

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 9 2022, 06:48 PM)
It's part of eKYC. You don't answer their question you annit use their service in the future. Not sure if they will report iuntonthe authorities for suspicious behaviour.
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eKYC was done at beginning no one can escape

this letter is triggered when the amount of money accumulated in KDI has gone beyond what your income /wealth bracket
as declared earlier.

My 5th account belong to my son an undergraduate in UM, straight away kena soon after i started using his name.
is normal for the trigger,
student studying why so much money - Simple
money from my father done!




QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Nov 9 2022, 09:26 PM)
Good job

Im feeling more confident as they get more cocking and ask more details

Means they are not desperate to approve funds even if you're giving them money
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nothing new , see the email they sent to my son.

now you can be more confident, alert system already there since beginning.

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post Nov 11 2022, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(NextDoorMan @ Nov 11 2022, 02:51 PM)
Hey sifu u seems like a KDI pro. Wanna ask you whats the underlying fund that KDI invest in for Save? cant find it anywhere I scared scam
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dont know KDI wont tell, maybe take your money invest something high return. banks also do that
insider info.

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Nov 12 2022, 07:04 AM)
Maybe they also dump in some money from profits they made from investment in order to achieve this. After all, KDI Save is actually a stepping stone to entice you to go for KDI Invest. See you steady or not...lol.
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ya i also believe so a business tactic get the crowd first later spillover to KDI invest fall in love there is where the money is.
other MMF return no fight a rival tried give 4% but not being honest enough is going to back fire.
here any day people can draw out all the money play forex with our money KDi mati lo.
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Nov 14 2022, 06:15 PM)
Withdraw on Saturday. Today still pending no masuk. If by end of tomorrow no money in, I will flip table and hold press conference with Michael Chong. Lol.
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By tonight la no worry

Why withdraw Saturday lose 2days interest
If i missed the cut off time Friday i won't withdraw,do that is like WD on monday in terms of speed in getting the money
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Nov 14 2022, 07:51 PM)
Is it? I still see the amount in full (no withdrawal yet) currently.
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risk is there, you can check. Did you get interest for Sat and Sunday?

QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Nov 14 2022, 09:53 PM)
Still tarak... doh.gif
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my WD RM25.8k B Islam still not in also

Note:that is to pay credit cards due TODAY, that much of confidence i have in KDI

now:see money in now.
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Nov 26 2022, 09:22 AM)
hahaha 3 days Holiday bro. Patience lah. Ambank limit is ok if remember correctly, should have 50k transfer and 30k(maybe more) FPX limit.

Banks with Jalat limit:
OCBC - 10K FPX
PBB - 20k FPX or Transfer (this is why i only do max 20k for PBB each FD each day).
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i just checked a normal SA in PBB
transfer is RM50k /day
FPX is RM100k/ day

try go profile maintenance, change limit there


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