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Davidtcf
post Apr 28 2022, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 28 2022, 08:00 AM)
VWRA sort of growth stock and some REITs in Singapore as dividend stock.

Probably 2vwra to 1 Singapore REITs for now as monthly funds and forex is not very good at the moment.

After maybe when i achieved about 10k sgd of REIT then I will add/rotate to Singapore bank as dividend stock also.

All in all VWRA as growth and Singapore stocks as dividends stock for now. I still love my dividend stocks 🤤

By end of this year's I would probably also sell some local burse portfolio and continue to pump into above stocks. 😆

At least do not need to pay fees and can keeps most of the dividends.
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Not sure if there is some comment regarding SA simple vs any other FD, MMF or bond that can be added in as diversification.👀

Do you have any comments?
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As to gambling in Bitcoin or other cryptos, I would suggest short term trade. Right now don't see them shooting up like last time. Or can avoid this altogether and just focus on stablecoins. IMO USDC is the safest due to tied to real USD and treasuries. I have less trust on algorithmic stablecoins like UST (Anchor).

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Davidtcf
post May 1 2022, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ May 1 2022, 10:23 AM)
I'm having a serious case of FOMO here with most index funds going on a discount of late. I just finished my home renovation and so need cash for paying the contractors. But also hurting from seeing everything being on discount... Fellow Bogleheads, anyone been in this situation before? What did you do to stop yourself from doing something stupid like liquidating certain "safer" emergency funds like backup FD to put into index funds at this time?
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It might go down even lower. Estimate another 4 more times interest rate will rise by Fed. As long inflation level is high.

You can prepare by putting some cash in IBKR, to prepare to buy when u feel it's the right time.
Davidtcf
post May 1 2022, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ May 1 2022, 05:16 PM)
Wow. Thanks so much everyone. I didn’t expect so many responses. You have all helped strengthen my resolve thumbup.gif it’s hard to not time the market, but it’s what I’ll try to do moving forward.
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Yea if you invest long term 5-10 years at least shouldn’t be a problem. Will recover any paper losses that time.

US economy will stabilise once inflation back to normal and Fed calms down. Ukraine war can’t last forever too..
Davidtcf
post May 13 2022, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 13 2022, 02:48 PM)
I will slowly load up.

Every 10 share of VWRA, every 2 share of BRK B
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BRK.B wanted to buy these before.
Then I see Warren Buffet’s age.. I think twice.

Waiting new leadership takes over first, and proven stability before I’d invest in it.
Davidtcf
post Jun 3 2022, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(CoastFireSoon @ Jun 3 2022, 10:12 AM)
Glad to know you're into VOO. Irish domiciled funds have higher expense ratio than US Vanguard funds and also the brokerage fee is higher apparently, so I think it more or less evens out in the end. Well, until you amass too much and then you start feeling the WHT pinch and get worried about estate tax.
encikbuta I remember reading up about people trying to get back money from an investment bank that kantoi, it wasn't easy. somemore it resides overseas. I don't know lah, I don't have that risk apetite - totally understand since you got dependents. Thanks for telling me about the FSMOne ETF plan. Will check it out.
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not true, your returns from VOO will be lower than that of VUAA/CSPX due to the 30% tax on dividends. For VUAA/CSPX it will be 15% tax on the accumulated dividends which is lower. Short term you do not see much difference in the % gained, but long term wise after many years it will be apparent. For countries with tax treaty with US or US citizens, they will able to claim back part of those dividend tax or offset them.. for us, EU and Singaporeans investors that has no tax treaty with US, it will be an extra 15% loss for us each time when dividends are paid out.

This is even more apparent for ETFs like VOO as they are distributing the dividends. Every time you receive dividends it already has an extra 15% tax charged to it.

Better stick to Irish domiciled types like VUAA/CSPX. Currently no way to buy them via brokers in Malaysia, so have to use brokers like IBKR to do so.
The part we will be charged higher is the transfer fees from Malaysia to US. Even using Wise to IBKR has some fees, but most people prefer transfer from Wise to CIMB SG, then to IBKR pay USD2 per conversion to USD (spot rate). For long term investing then it is worth it.

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post Jun 3 2022, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jun 3 2022, 10:24 AM)
not true, your returns from VOO will be lower than that of VUAA/CSPX due to the 30% tax on dividends. For VUAA/CSPX it will be 15% tax on the accumulated dividends which is lower. Short term you do not see much difference in the % gained, but long term wise after many years it will be apparent. For countries with tax treaty with US or US citizens, they will able to claim back part of those dividend tax or offset them.. for us, EU and Singaporeans investors that has no tax treaty with US, it will be an extra 15% loss for us each time when dividends are paid out.

This is even more apparent for ETFs like VOO as they are distributing the dividends. Every time you receive dividends it already has an extra 15% tax charged to it.

Better stick to Irish domiciled types like VUAA/CSPX. Currently no way to buy them via brokers in Malaysia, so have to use brokers like IBKR to do so.
The part we will be charged higher is the transfer fees from Malaysia to US. Even using Wise to IBKR has some fees, but most people prefer transfer from Wise to CIMB SG, then to IBKR pay USD2 per conversion to USD (spot rate). For long term investing then it is worth it.
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also if you buy VOO via our local brokers like Rakuten, will end up paying more also due to their high FX spread. Rakuten also requires every buy and sell be converted back and forth to MYR. You'll lose 2 times via currency exchange if buy via them. Other brokers I'm not sure.. but so far don't hear any good stories about them also.

So in the end IBKR still cheaper. Can watch more youtube videos on why they are the best now. Check "Ziet Invest" videos on this also.. he also got explain why Irish domiciled is better.

Then lastly another method is via robo advisors. They will charge management fees of around 0.7-1% a year. They will buy US ETFs only due to larger market cap, lower broker fees, and faster execution. This 0.7-1% will add up as years go by.

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Jun 3 2022, 12:45 PM

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