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Come i recommend cheap engine oil - mizu, Only semi and fully
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ken_hidaibuki
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Dec 27 2021, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Dec 27 2021, 04:21 PM) Well... up to u but i wont risk it since no api rating. Basically nobody knows and monitors what base oil and formulation inside. U know JTX engine oil? At first all also like. Say smooth n what not. Now nobody using because after 1-2 years many engine got problems. When they open saw kerak kerak engine oil. Means the oil losses its life before the change intervals. Again, no api rating. Okay i will try mizu next time. Thanks for the tips.
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MR_alien
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Dec 27 2021, 04:26 PM
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for tough usage but want cheap?
the petronas synthium 800 i normal use also cannot last
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rcracer
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Dec 27 2021, 04:27 PM
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meet specification is only one part
keeping that specification until next service is the real story
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TSBalanced
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Dec 27 2021, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 27 2021, 04:26 PM) for tough usage but want cheap? the petronas synthium 800 i normal use also cannot last Redline fully synthetic, but it wont last because ada banyak ester. Apparently the ester will burn and u losses around 1L for 4000km. But it will protect your engine and your engine wont losses power after touge long long also. Cheap engine oil, once hot u will feel your engine losses power. - i got this from an engine builder, dunno true or not.
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TSBalanced
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Dec 27 2021, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Dec 27 2021, 04:27 PM) meet specification is only one part keeping that specification until next service is the real story Meet specs means it will last until last service interval d la in normal conditions. Dont la take it masuk jungle tracking, masuk sungai, racing at track pulak.
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MR_alien
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Dec 27 2021, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Dec 27 2021, 04:30 PM) Redline fully synthetic, but it wont last because ada banyak ester. Apparently the ester will burn and u losses around 1L for 4000km. But it will protect your engine and your engine wont losses power after touge long long also. Cheap engine oil, once hot u will feel your engine losses power. - i got this from an engine builder, dunno true or not. not sure true or not but i suggest pay a little more to last the whole 5000KM interval heck when i use liqui moly, i push the interval to 7000 KM...still no problem worth every penny
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atreyuangel
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Dec 27 2021, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Dec 27 2021, 04:07 PM) From a fellow ktard. U wan? He gave me quite gooding price hehe yeah why not! for next service can buy from him
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rcracer
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Dec 27 2021, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Dec 27 2021, 04:32 PM) Meet specs means it will last until last service interval d la in normal conditions. Dont la take it masuk jungle tracking, masuk sungai, racing at track pulak. no la, oil specification only based on new oil not used oil cheap synthetics are cheap for a reason , one of which is, they take a lower viscosity base oil like 20 or 30 and build it up with viscosity modifiers or improvers to make it meet the wanted viscosity but there modifiers get broken down by shearing forces and the longer it's used the thinner the oil gets , the Golden rule always applies, you get what you pay for
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TSBalanced
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Dec 27 2021, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Dec 27 2021, 04:51 PM) no la, oil specification only based on new oil not used oil cheap synthetics are cheap for a reason , one of which is, they take a lower viscosity base oil like 20 or 30 and build it up with viscosity modifiers or improvers to make it meet the wanted viscosity but there modifiers get broken down by shearing forces and the longer it's used the thinner the oil gets , the Golden rule always applies, you get what you pay for Of course it went throught vigorous testing already to make sure it can last their service life... Takkan la no test and just gv cert? Crazy meh? These certs damn expensive wei, if it is so loose, what is the point and everybody wont even bat an eye on the certs la.
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TSBalanced
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Dec 27 2021, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 27 2021, 04:47 PM) yeah why not! for next service can buy from him @imperialrealcs
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Gendude
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Dec 27 2021, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Dec 27 2021, 04:12 PM) I won't touch bold. On their bottle they put API rating, but check officially dont have. Tipu ke? ok noted..tq
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rcracer
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Dec 27 2021, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Dec 27 2021, 04:56 PM) Of course it went throught vigorous testing already to make sure it can last their service life... Takkan la no test and just gv cert? Crazy meh? These certs damn expensive wei, if it is so loose, what is the point and everybody wont even bat an eye on the certs la. just check and see, the certifications don't guarantee the entire service life of oil, it only says yes at this point of testing the oil meets the required specification practical wise , also doesn't make sense to test used oil, no one uses second hand oils and since it being changed anyways why test anyways. check all those extended service life oils are all self claimed, no one will certify it officially
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tky1993
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Dec 27 2021, 05:03 PM
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Cb ts if next time I buy this oil price increased i cum whack 9 you
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cloudwan0
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Dec 27 2021, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Dec 27 2021, 03:56 PM) Be it for my car or bike I never safe money to get these - brake pads, disc rotors, engine oil, ATF, tyres, etc. I'll get the best I can find out just use factory brand. me too, my life more precious
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JustForFun
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Dec 27 2021, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Dec 27 2021, 04:56 PM) Of course it went throught vigorous testing already to make sure it can last their service life... Takkan la no test and just gv cert? Crazy meh? These certs damn expensive wei, if it is so loose, what is the point and everybody wont even bat an eye on the certs la. How does the cert work? Do they get checked on their product quality? Could they have sent a good product for the certification only to sell recycled oil to customers? Just playing devil's advocate here cause I checked the site and it seems dodgy as hell.
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loserguy
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Dec 27 2021, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Dec 27 2021, 02:15 PM) What did you just call me  yeah we really meant trash panda
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TSBalanced
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Dec 27 2021, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Dec 27 2021, 06:00 PM) How does the cert work? Do they get checked on their product quality? Could they have sent a good product for the certification only to sell recycled oil to customers? Just playing devil's advocate here cause I checked the site and it seems dodgy as hell. I have no idea. I just know its strict and expensive. Maybe got spot checks, audits, visits, sample taking etc. Actually im willing to partially pay for lab test if someone willing to do it for 10k km in their stock ride. Must be at least 50% city drive. If ktards willing, maybe gather 5 ppl then we split the cost
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TSBalanced
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Dec 27 2021, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(tky1993 @ Dec 27 2021, 05:03 PM) Cb ts if next time I buy this oil price increased i cum whack 9 you Good things must share....and and and also i am not using mizu so wont affect me negatively kekeke
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SUSFenix98
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Dec 27 2021, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 27 2021, 06:06 PM) yeah we really meant trash panda  Is that better? This post has been edited by Fenix98: Dec 27 2021, 07:16 PM
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SUSFenix98
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Dec 27 2021, 06:59 PM
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Edited...
This post has been edited by Fenix98: Dec 27 2021, 07:10 PM
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