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OrangeGrove
post Dec 27 2021, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Dec 27 2021, 11:49 AM)
First of all i like very much tiguan. Superb handly
But uncle car design interior and exterior
Nothing wow factor
After i heard too many problem
I jump to peugeot to choose
But now i need to reconsider plan c
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If you put a gun over my head to choose between VW and Peugeot, I will stick to VW. There are more horror stories with Peugeot than VW.
VW ownership experience is either hit or missed, some get pleasant experience while some are nightmares. Where as Peugeot ownership experiences are mostly nightmares.
Tiguan is using the less problematic 6 speed DSG, unlike the problematic 7 speed DSG that I used to have. And Tiguan is using 1.4 or 2.0 single turbo engine, unlike the problematic twincharged that they used in the early Tiguan.
There are more after market parts and workshops that know how to fix VW. I don't know who knows how to fix Peugeot outside of the official workshop
Also there is still a huge following in VW owner group which they are quite active, and they used to organize TT and sepang track day. It is important to have car group to share experiences and most of them are able to share solutions and preventive maintenance.
The reason why there is still a huge VW following is because these cars drive really well and people still want to stick with the brand.

Important thing to own a VW is to understand the preventive maintenance, knowing what part will likely to fail and by when you need to replace them before they breakdown, and have a tow truck number on standby. You aren't a real VW owner if you have not been on a tow truck before.. lol..

This post has been edited by OrangeGrove: Dec 27 2021, 12:38 PM
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post Dec 27 2021, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Dec 27 2021, 11:44 AM)
You really help me to make a better decision
A lot of new input from you
So at French market didnt use rubbish ep6 engine?
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Not only the French market. The entire European market don't use this crappy engine anymore. Which is why the parts are now only OEM Taiwan or China. No more European made parts. They probably sold this engine to China or Taiwan.
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QUOTE(OrangeGrove @ Dec 27 2021, 12:02 PM)
Eh.. my aunt bought the 408 1.6T because of nostalgia, her company provided 405 as company car for her many years ago.
But she also end up selling her car and bought a Vios.. cannot tahan the manja of the 408.
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Again the EP6 is to blame. Need to really drive and push the car hard. If always parked at home sure have problems.
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post Dec 27 2021, 01:04 PM

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Stay away like the plague
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post Dec 27 2021, 01:06 PM

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For your budget, I would get the pre-reg Tiguan Allspace R-Line.
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post Dec 27 2021, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(OrangeGrove @ Dec 27 2021, 12:34 PM)
If you put a gun over my head to choose between VW and Peugeot, I will stick to VW. There are more horror stories with Peugeot than VW.
VW ownership experience is either hit or missed, some get pleasant experience while some are nightmares. Where as Peugeot ownership experiences are mostly nightmares.
Tiguan is using the less problematic 6 speed DSG, unlike the problematic 7 speed DSG that I used to have. And Tiguan is using 1.4 or 2.0 single turbo engine, unlike the problematic twincharged that they used in the early Tiguan.
There are more after market parts and workshops that know how to fix VW. I don't know who knows how to fix Peugeot outside of the official workshop
Also there is still a huge following in VW owner group which they are quite active, and they used to organize TT and sepang track day. It is important to have car group to share experiences and most of them are able to share solutions and preventive maintenance.
The reason why there is still a huge VW following is because these cars drive really well and people still want to stick with the brand.

Important thing to own a VW is to understand the preventive maintenance, knowing what part will likely to fail and by when you need to replace them before they breakdown, and have a tow truck number on standby. You aren't a real VW owner if you have not been on a tow truck before.. lol..
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Nowadays there are more independent peugeot/french specialists out there compared to early 2010's. Notable ones are bros auto and renautech. Before these indies, you can only rely on official SC

Of course if you compared with VW/audi indies, they far outnumber french fries indies

I think peugeot is really trying hard to improve their image/credibility here. My friend who still hold on to his 508 get to extend the warranty to 8 years and he managed to get a new engine too

I also received some calls from peugeot rep 2 years after selling off mine but it's already too late. I'll never get another peugeot

Although now local peugeot dealership has changed hands, I'm not gonna take risks with this brand anymore
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post Dec 27 2021, 03:12 PM

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Nearly got the 5008 early this yr but guess glad i didnt after reading comments here
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post Dec 27 2021, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(ctw88 @ Dec 27 2021, 12:12 PM)
My personal experience owning a 508 for 6 years. First 4 years everything is good and all, nothing major. Coming into 5th year, the dreaded depollution error starts popping up.

Back then the warranty was only for 3 years so everything I had to pay out of own pocket. The official SC wasnt competent in solving problems. All they did was throwing parts at it, at my own cost of course

Change all spark plugs, ignition coils, catalytic converter, high pressure fuel pump, etc etc and the problem never got solved.

In the end, found out from another forummer here that it's likely to be caused by carbon buildup. Back then there was no walnut blast service available, so there's not much options

Got the valves cleaned and it was running fine again. So what it means is I paid so much for parts change when all it needed was valve carbon cleaning

But at 5 years age, other problems start creeping up like failing power windows, failing keyless access, failing side mirror motor, failing infotainment system (random reboot or blank screen) etc etc

Im not sure how the parts availability are now, but back then it was horrible. Got into an accident and have to wait 1 month+ for bumper to ship from france.

Failed power window also more or less 1 month wait for parts (first time it failed was 2 years into ownership)
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PUG lovers love to wait 1 month plus for parts. They wont like it if the parts are easily available. they WANT TO wait 1 month plus....baru siok!
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post Dec 27 2021, 11:20 PM

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Wife told me she saw this new SUV car damn nice and big from outside & inside. I was sweating after hearing "Peugeot"
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post Dec 28 2021, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(empire @ Dec 27 2021, 03:39 PM)
PUG lovers love to wait 1 month plus for parts. They wont like it if the parts are easily available. they WANT TO wait 1 month plus....baru siok!
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Should say the same for Proton owners as well especially the X-series
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post Dec 28 2021, 01:56 AM

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Just keep this in mind

1. Make sure you have a 2nd car

2. Make sure you are mentally and emotionally prepared for the huge drop in depreciation when you want to trade in your car.

3. Join any Pug community (fb or forums). Due to my ownership of these cars, I made frens with enthusiasts and mechanics

4. Always ask for 2nd opinion for any major repairs. Those well versed will know how to reduce your repair costs. SC here are sometimes a huge pain.

5. Always do preventive maintenance. Its a decent brand in Europe. The only problem is the currency exchange of the parts. But moving forward, I feel it will be much better now with Stellantis taking over Naza's Gurun production. They are committed to make Msia as the SEA base

6. If you are experienced and brave enough, go for used one. 2 of my prev lions are used (less than half of the original value) and I spent some $$$ (5k ish) to make it reliable for next 5 years.

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post Dec 28 2021, 10:54 PM

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Family own VW n Audi n Benz n toyota here,
I cannot speak for peugeot but I can share my ownership of those Conti cars. I would say if you are a car person, willing to find out the problem yourself then go for Conti car. You wan problem free go for Toyota harrier.
My beetle 1.2tsi 2013 still running well till today no major problem. Yes last time the vw after sale really really bad, thankfully those vw shop been closed. Nowadays a lot Conti car specialist out there parts is a lot easier to find compare to last time. I'm still keeping the beetle till today, a fun to drive car. Bought an pre-owned c200 from hapseng in year 2018, the car visit workshop more than the vw. But everything are small matters thankfully certified pre-owned still carry 4 years warranty else sure hv to folk out quite a bit of money to fix those small issues. Then my dad is a Toyota harrier fans, he used to hv the 2nd gen Harrier n now drive the latest gen Harrier. The 2nd gen Harrier like a tank, 12 years of ownership nvr hv any problem.then my elder brother drive an Audi A5. Best car I ever driven.

So still the same, if I wan to drive a European car make sure hv the patient to learn also a 2nd car.
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post Dec 28 2021, 11:51 PM

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go back to the original meant of a car, it is meant to get you from 1 point to another. Hence, i guess reliability is darn important given the current state of public transport infrastructure.

if you need sort of driving pleasure or excitement once in a while, go rent that car and do whatever you want.




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post Jan 1 2022, 01:06 PM

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Peugeot: You need passion to own it, as well as passion to visit workshops and passion to wait for spare parts.

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