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post Dec 26 2021, 11:13 AM

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Less problems indeed but the turbo or gearbox will fail within 5-6 years. My turbo already replaced outside twice!

Also, the cat converter will fail after 5 years. Mine failed a long time ago and now every now and then the CE light will pop up. Just pump RON 97-100 then ok. If RON 95, this light will remain on for days and weeks.

As for the gearbox, mine already 9 years old and started to have some slip at higher gears.

Peugeot, buy at own risk. Engineered to fail!
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post Dec 26 2021, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Dec 26 2021, 02:11 PM)
Great respond from you
You buy this model at what year?
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Mine is a 2012, Peugeot 3008. Same engine as the 5008. Already claimed the extended warranty so the parts will make same as the current models.

Naza replaced 8 parts on mine. At the moment, it is reliable for daily use. But remember, Peugeot cars love nagging at the drivers with every problems like Engine Faults, Depollution Error, Economy Mode Active and more. If u not familiar, it can be daunting and sometimes panic.

The European models dumped this shitty EP6 for the latest one. Even BMW also dumped this trash from all their models. The rest of the world got this old crappy engine.

Why I kept mine? Because cannot sell it. Car dealers lowball offers from 10-13K. Even direct buyers also lowball 16-17K.

Peugeot is NOT designed for hot climates like MY. For example, the AC will prioritize Hot first before Cold. Imagine starting the car and need to wait until the engine temp reached 90C then only the compressor kicks in. U probably die from the heat first.

The rubberised plastics started to melt on mine especially the power window switches. It will be sticky and attracts lots of dirt and dust.

Creaks and squeaks from the centre console. Very annoying on bumpy roads. Heck, my 2004 Savvy don't even have this issue.

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post Dec 26 2021, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Dec 26 2021, 02:28 PM)
Mine is a 2012, Peugeot 3008. Same engine as the 5008. Already claimed the extended warranty so the parts will make same as the current models.

Naza replaced 8 parts on mine. At the moment, it is reliable for daily use. But remember, Peugeot cars love nagging at the drivers with every problems like Engine Faults, Depollution Error, Economy Mode Active and more. If u not familiar, it can be daunting and sometimes panic.

The European models dumped this shitty EP6 for the latest one. Even BMW also dumped this trash from all their models. The rest of the world got this old crappy engine.

Why I kept mine? Because cannot sell it. Car dealers lowball offers from 10-13K. Even direct buyers also lowball 16-17K.

Peugeot is NOT designed for hot climates like MY. For example, the AC will prioritize Hot first before Cold. Imagine starting the car and need to wait until the engine temp reached 90C then only the compressor kicks in. U probably die from the heat first.

The rubberised plastics started to melt on mine especially the power window switches. It will be sticky and attracts lots of dirt and dust.

Creaks and squeaks from the centre console. Very annoying on bumpy roads. Heck, my 2004 Savvy don't even have this issue.
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Buying a Peugeot is like marrying a good woman in an everlasting marriage. After several years, she will nag nonstop and give u unnecessary stress. If given a choice, I would have opt for something else.
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post Dec 26 2021, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 26 2021, 02:52 PM)
Hahaha what an analogy! So if you still have to have something nagging in your life, at least just get a wife but don't top it up again with a car that nags like a wife! 😆
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post Dec 26 2021, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Dec 26 2021, 04:43 PM)
I like the rear seat, spacious
Didnt expect much for third row
But still bad review for this new version
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The new version still uses the same crappy EP6 Prince engine. No matter what refinements or software updates, the engine itself is still crap. Now dumped by BMW and even Peugeot themselves from all European models.
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post Dec 26 2021, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Dec 26 2021, 05:31 PM)
Peugeot use same engine over 12 years?
Heard many bad service from naza + incompetent model
Model from french
Even with production stelista still cant give the reliable engine + good material suitable with our climate?
Thank you sharing your HONEST & REAL EXPERIENCE
Really help me to decide for my future car
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Only 4 engines for Peugeot since 2010.

1.6 NA
1.6 turbo
2.0 NA
2.2 turbo diesel

The most popular being the 1.6 turbo EP6 Prince co-developed with BMW. U will find this on BMW, Citroen and Mini. All 3 brands suffered the same shitty problems as Peugeot.

Starting 2014, BMW and Mini dumped this shitty engine from all their models. Citroen and Peugeot kept using it for other world models. In own country, France not using it anymore.

To avoid most of the problems, this engine need to driven hard like going outstation every 2 weeks or keeping the redline above 3-4K. Doing so will free up any carbon buildups inside the engine. In the process, u also kill the gearbox and turbo plus high pressure fuel pump.

Now, as long u know where to find parts and professional workshops, still worth considering but might empty your wallets faster. Then again, Peugeot is a cheap way to own a continental. Models like 2010 308 goes for peanuts at RM 12-13K up. Repair another 6-7K. All below 20K and great for cash buyers. Just be prepared to spend over 2-3K for any major breakdowns at the professional shops.

Some items are ridiculously expensive from Naza like:

Turbo, over 13K
High pressure fuel pump, 4K
Low pressure fuel pump, 2K
ABS sensors, 300+ each
Air-con compressor, over 3K

U can fix the above outside for 1/3 of the cost professionally.

After fixing outside, start saving for 3K after 2-3 years to replace both fuel pumps. Damn French so smart to put the most important part on the engine itself subjected to hot air and vibrations from the engine. The Japanese much smarter by putting the high pressure fuel pump in the petrol tank which it is much cooler and less vibrations.

The ECU for both engine and gearbox are located in the engine bay. If water goes in, that's another 5-6K per ECU. The body ECU is in the centre console. If water goes in, it will another 3-4K.

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post Dec 27 2021, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(empire @ Dec 26 2021, 08:42 PM)
I really dont understand pug enthusiasts. Dah la so many never ending horror stories about the hell ex pug owners went through...but STILL...STILL got some weirdos who wanna buy a Pug and go through the same hell??

Whats wrong with these people?? Still wanna buy a PUG and suffer like hell even after knowing they will get hell??
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post Dec 27 2021, 10:54 AM

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The only Peugeot with less problems is the 408 with 1.6 turbo. Peugeot striped down most of the problematic electronics and made it basic like an Altis.

The power windows now spot hard plastics rather than rubberised plastics. The dashboard also made from hard plastics. Gearbox is 6 speed Aisin from some Toyota models.

Overall, it is a good car which rivals the Fluence from Renault.

However, the turbo and high pressure pump still need to be monitored from time to time.

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post Dec 27 2021, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Dec 27 2021, 11:44 AM)
You really help me to make a better decision
A lot of new input from you
So at French market didnt use rubbish ep6 engine?
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Not only the French market. The entire European market don't use this crappy engine anymore. Which is why the parts are now only OEM Taiwan or China. No more European made parts. They probably sold this engine to China or Taiwan.
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post Dec 27 2021, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(OrangeGrove @ Dec 27 2021, 12:02 PM)
Eh.. my aunt bought the 408 1.6T because of nostalgia, her company provided 405 as company car for her many years ago.
But she also end up selling her car and bought a Vios.. cannot tahan the manja of the 408.
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Again the EP6 is to blame. Need to really drive and push the car hard. If always parked at home sure have problems.

 

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