all my friends who are ex PUG owners vowed to NEVER ever buy another Pug forever. Takpe la TS. Since you like PUG so much... go for it and 'enjoy' la. I will see how long it will take before you become an ex PUG owner :-D

I drive a first Gen 2018 1.6 vti. It does handle well but not like an F1, to check your expectations. Besides, spirited cornering and handling maybe only 5% or less of the ownership experience.

I’d say that reliability is much more important (it really isn’t, and I have an NA car).

If money is no object, you can sell it after 5 years at a huge loss and buy another 5008. That is really what Peugeot wants. Otherwise after that really prepare to spend a few days and a few k’s for the smallest of problems and every few months.

My french colleague based in KL asked me why Malaysian want to buy french cars... Lol.. he himself drives an Estima here..

Hahaha. If its a RENAULT, PUG or CITROEN...stay away!! These cars are not from France. They are from HELL cos they give non stop hell to the owners and make the owners' wallets dry thx to the never ending problems.

Actually according to my french colleague, french cars are pretty reliable in France, he owned a 206 diesel. Probably diesel variant with manual gearbox is ok..
While probably its petrol variant not as reliable in other countries..

This post has been edited by OrangeGrove: Dec 26 2021, 09:29 PM

She. Peugeot Glenmarie.

PUG is for cold countries. It will continue to give hell to owners in Hot countries. FRANCE is a cold country. GO figure.

There’s really nothing special about Peugeot to live with the unreliability. If it was an Alfa Romeo I’d understand.

As other people mentioned, it’s still using an old engine which has been dumped by BMW. And the engine has nothing but proven shit reliability. I would agree if fan boys say it’s improved. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.

A used harrier with the 2L turbo is great IMO. CRV, CX-5 turbo are all easily better choice. If you want that continental feel I think X1 pre-reg may be had for sub 200k — you got to check. I’d buy a Tiguan before I touch a Peugeot. I’d even buy a Geely Proton over a Peugeot.

Yea.. there is something about the Alfa Romeo's romance that people are willing to deal with it's unreliability and still willing to own and keep one (if you are lucky to have the one with Busso engine)

Peugeot might not be something that worth the effort and time. Unless one feels the sentimental value and nostalgia towards the brand.

Syiok sendiri first. Bergaya second.

The only Peugeot with less problems is the 408 with 1.6 turbo. Peugeot striped down most of the problematic electronics and made it basic like an Altis.

The power windows now spot hard plastics rather than rubberised plastics. The dashboard also made from hard plastics. Gearbox is 6 speed Aisin from some Toyota models.

Overall, it is a good car which rivals the Fluence from Renault.

However, the turbo and high pressure pump still need to be monitored from time to time.

some kind of sadist.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/2021-what-car-...ily-suvs/n23403
https://www.whatcar.com/news/2021-what-car-...rge-suvs/n23405
https://www.whatcar.com/news/2021-what-car-...all-suvs/n23402

I've spent weeks researching on this also because I'm also desire to jump on SUV trend. The stats presented above may not be exactly applicable for Malaysian and also they excluded Toyota and Lexus somehow but a few other website and youtube videos also saying similar things, the only conti I dare to go for is BMW or Mini (but you don't buy X1 or Countryman for power also because the 0-100 times are exaggerated. Most of them accomplished with launch control and sport mode so when you are on normal mode, the moment you need to overtake a Proton X50, it is not as easy as it sounds on paper). Right now, I'm leaning on Harrier, CX-5 or Countryman. I'm just going to screw the latest safety driver assist tech because can't have the everything and expect it to be cheap. I might wait a few months more for new X1 to be launched.

This post has been edited by BaboonZ: Dec 27 2021, 12:14 PM

You really help me to make a better decision
A lot of new input from you
So at French market didnt use rubbish ep6 engine?

First of all i like very much tiguan. Superb handly
But uncle car design interior and exterior
Nothing wow factor
After i heard too many problem
I jump to peugeot to choose
But now i need to reconsider plan c
Huhu

Yes this is another great option
But the price quite high
Difficult to choose which variant that suitable for my family

That’s why we had good discussion here
Each person didnt have on par experience
And knowledge.
Personally i learnt a lot here

Yes. I respect your opinion
And sharing your friends experience

Eh.. my aunt bought the 408 1.6T because of nostalgia, her company provided 405 as company car for her many years ago.
But she also end up selling her car and bought a Vios.. cannot tahan the manja of the 408.

My personal experience owning a 508 for 6 years. First 4 years everything is good and all, nothing major. Coming into 5th year, the dreaded depollution error starts popping up.

Back then the warranty was only for 3 years so everything I had to pay out of own pocket. The official SC wasnt competent in solving problems. All they did was throwing parts at it, at my own cost of course

Change all spark plugs, ignition coils, catalytic converter, high pressure fuel pump, etc etc and the problem never got solved.

In the end, found out from another forummer here that it's likely to be caused by carbon buildup. Back then there was no walnut blast service available, so there's not much options

Got the valves cleaned and it was running fine again. So what it means is I paid so much for parts change when all it needed was valve carbon cleaning

But at 5 years age, other problems start creeping up like failing power windows, failing keyless access, failing side mirror motor, failing infotainment system (random reboot or blank screen) etc etc

Im not sure how the parts availability are now, but back then it was horrible. Got into an accident and have to wait 1 month+ for bumper to ship from france.

Failed power window also more or less 1 month wait for parts (first time it failed was 2 years into ownership)