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TSvinlyy P
post Dec 23 2021, 09:55 PM, updated 4y ago

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Hi all bankers and sifus,

I’m with my girlfriend trying to get loan for my first house. We plan to buy double storey KL.

Property price: 900k second double storey
Loan:hope to get 90%
Credit card: clear off every month no outstanding
Age: 28(me) 25(she)
Year of our business: 2year plus
Net income:
Enterprise profit
Year 2019 - 99k - rm4200 monthly profit /person
Year 2020 -135k - rm5600 monthly profit/person
All sale and expenses got transaction in our account
We also got submit our income to LHDN for year 2019&2020
Monthly saving around 4k - 6k
Occupation: morning market hawker
-we operate our business under our partnership enterprise
-profit by sharing in business enterprise account
-ssm 2year ++
Commitment :
For me: ptptn rm250 /left 13 year

Every month clear no outstanding
She : no commitment
Marital status : single
Currently : rent house rm1500 per month

Is our profile able get a loan for our 1st house purchase? What would be the loan margin and loan tenure? How much we need to prepare in order to buy second hand double storey with price 900k?Thanks for the advice

It is big chance to get 90% loan?
mini orchard
post Dec 24 2021, 06:10 AM

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QUOTE(vinlyy @ Dec 23 2021, 09:55 PM)
Hi all bankers and sifus,

I’m  with my girlfriend trying to get loan for my first house. We plan to buy double storey KL.

Property price: 900k second double storey
Loan:hope to get 90%
Credit card: clear off every month no outstanding
Age: 28(me) 25(she)
Year of our business: 2year plus
Net income:
Enterprise profit
Year 2019 - 99k - rm4200 monthly profit /person
Year 2020 -135k - rm5600 monthly profit/person
All sale and expenses got transaction in our account
We also got submit our income to LHDN for year 2019&2020
Monthly saving around 4k - 6k
Occupation: morning market hawker
-we operate our business under our partnership enterprise
-profit by sharing in business enterprise account
-ssm 2year ++
Commitment :
For me: ptptn rm250 /left 13 year

Every month clear no outstanding
She : no commitment
Marital status : single
Currently : rent house rm1500 per month

Is our profile able get a loan for our 1st house purchase? What would be the loan margin and loan tenure? How much we need to prepare in order to buy second hand double storey with price 900k?Thanks for the advice

It is big chance to get 90% loan?
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Your estimated profit/person for Year 2021 ? Banks are interested in current figures. Past figures are for comparative purpose.

You didnt mentioned about self-contribution to EPF......which will help in your evaluation.

Based on your joint profit figure of 10k , an employee borrower with the same salary will qualify.
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post Dec 24 2021, 09:35 AM

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Most likely can hit. But it depends on how the banks rate you in the current climate. Like what mini orchard mentioned, your epf contributions will help too.

But since its a subsale -

normally you will have to prepare the upfront (10%) for deposit, then stamp duty fees etc (I think stamp duty would be around 20k+?)

Next, renovation fees / clearing fees / defect fees etc. Since its a double storey I'd assume a full reno / ID would be done so another 100k minimum.

So the rough estimate for now - around 200 - 250k?
TSvinlyy P
post Dec 24 2021, 10:01 PM

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We contritribute to EPF but by one time rm5000 for each of us in 2021

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post Dec 24 2021, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(vinlyy @ Dec 24 2021, 10:01 PM)
We contritribute to EPF but by one time rm5000 for each of us in 2021
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Do monthly contribution to show 'consistency' of business income.
TSvinlyy P
post Dec 25 2021, 03:55 PM

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I plan to purchase property at June 2022
So start from Jan 2022 I contribute rm300 monthly to epf got improve for my housing loan .
When apply loan ,bank got request us to send epf statement for self employed borrower ?
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post Dec 25 2021, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(vinlyy @ Dec 25 2021, 03:55 PM)
I plan to purchase property at June 2022
So start from Jan 2022 I contribute rm300 monthly to epf got improve for my housing loan .
When apply loan ,bank got request us to send epf statement for self employed borrower ?
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The bank can requested for any relevant documents of borrower to process the loan.

Any documents that show proper financial records will help in the approval.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Dec 25 2021, 08:57 PM
Thasmita
post Dec 26 2021, 10:50 PM

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That’s really brave. Committing to a 810k loan based on rm 120k nett annual revenue. Firstly make sure the property is really worth rm900k. Don’t ever rely solely on what agents tell you. Do proper research on recently transacted prices. As a property owner myself - I have to admit it’s a really really soft market. I just offered someone 25% off the advertised price for an apartment unit - initially the agent/owner said no- but after a week have been calling me to conclude the deal, from 340k advertised price to 250k.
TSvinlyy P
post Dec 27 2021, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(Thasmita @ Dec 26 2021, 10:50 PM)
That’s really brave. Committing to a 810k loan based on rm 120k nett annual revenue. Firstly make sure the property is really worth rm900k. Don’t ever rely solely on what agents tell you. Do proper research on recently transacted prices. As a property owner myself - I have to admit it’s a really really soft market. I just offered someone 25% off the advertised price for an apartment unit  - initially the agent/owner said no- but after a week have been calling me to conclude the deal, from 340k advertised price to 250k.
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No choice
I work at this area I must buy at here easy for me
I need to prepare food so double storey suitable for me
Hard to negotiate price
Some property once we late/still thinking
Other ppl already buy
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post Dec 27 2021, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(vinlyy @ Dec 27 2021, 07:07 AM)
No choice
I work at this area I must buy at here easy for me
I need to prepare food so double storey suitable for me
Hard to negotiate price
Some property once we late/still thinking
Other ppl already buy
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What’s the rental in that area?
mini orchard
post Dec 27 2021, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(Thasmita @ Dec 27 2021, 07:24 AM)
What’s the rental in that area?
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People buy properties for various reasons and not solely based on rental income guide. As long the property can generate income other than perceived rental, it suffice.

No one can buy at the lowest nor sell at the highest.

Property transaction is localised. Soft property prices may not be applicable to every location.

QUOTE(Thasmita @ Dec 26 2021, 10:50 PM)
As a property owner myself - I have to admit it’s a really really soft market. I just offered someone 25% off the advertised price for an apartment unit  - initially the agent/owner said no- but after a week have been calling me to conclude the deal, from 340k advertised price to 250k.
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One transacted data doesnt represent the whole country.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Dec 27 2021, 07:36 AM
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post Dec 27 2021, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Dec 27 2021, 07:34 AM)
People buy properties for various reasons and not solely based on rental income guide. As long the property can generate income other than perceived rental, it suffice.

No one can buy at the lowest nor sell at the highest.

Property transaction is localised. Soft property prices may not be applicable to every location.
One transacted data doesnt represent the whole country.
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Mate don’t need to be judgemental. My question was what is the rental in that area. I’m just curious.

What do you mean by one transacted data representing the whole country?

Generally market is really soft.

This post has been edited by Thasmita: Dec 27 2021, 06:48 PM
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post Dec 27 2021, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Thasmita @ Dec 27 2021, 06:46 PM)
Mate don’t need to be judgemental. My question was what is the rental in that area. I’m just curious.

What do you mean by one transacted data representing the whole country?

Generally market is really soft.
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I am not being judgemental

Your answer is not relevant to what he is asking.

If this is an exam question, sorry ..... you failed.
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post Dec 27 2021, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Dec 27 2021, 07:36 PM)
I am not being judgemental 

Your answer is not relevant to what he is asking.

If this is an exam question, sorry ..... you failed.
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post Dec 27 2021, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(vinlyy @ Dec 23 2021, 09:55 PM)
Hi all bankers and sifus,

I’m  with my girlfriend trying to get loan for my first house. We plan to buy double storey KL.

Property price: 900k second double storey
Loan:hope to get 90%
Credit card: clear off every month no outstanding
Age: 28(me) 25(she)
Year of our business: 2year plus
Net income:
Enterprise profit
Year 2019 - 99k - rm4200 monthly profit /person
Year 2020 -135k - rm5600 monthly profit/person
All sale and expenses got transaction in our account
We also got submit our income to LHDN for year 2019&2020
Monthly saving around 4k - 6k
Occupation: morning market hawker
-we operate our business under our partnership enterprise
-profit by sharing in business enterprise account
-ssm 2year ++
Commitment :
For me: ptptn rm250 /left 13 year

Every month clear no outstanding
She : no commitment
Marital status : single
Currently : rent house rm1500 per month

Is our profile able get a loan for our 1st house purchase? What would be the loan margin and loan tenure? How much we need to prepare in order to buy second hand double storey with price 900k?Thanks for the advice

It is big chance to get 90% loan?
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Not likely to get 90% with that property prices and your incomes.. Maybe 70-80%

This post has been edited by LuckyBai: Dec 27 2021, 08:19 PM
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post Dec 27 2021, 08:23 PM

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TSvinlyy P
post Dec 28 2021, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(LuckyBai @ Dec 27 2021, 08:19 PM)
Not likely to get 90% with that property prices and your incomes.. Maybe 70-80%
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why can’t get 90% loan?
We combine income got 10k
Monthly loan payment only 3.3k
Our monthly saving above 5k per month




This area rental around 1.6k for double storey
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post Dec 28 2021, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(vinlyy @ Dec 23 2021, 09:55 PM)
Hi all bankers and sifus,

I’m  with my girlfriend trying to get loan for my first house. We plan to buy double storey KL.

Property price: 900k second double storey
Loan:hope to get 90%
Credit card: clear off every month no outstanding
Age: 28(me) 25(she)
Year of our business: 2year plus
Net income:
Enterprise profit
Year 2019 - 99k - rm4200 monthly profit /person
Year 2020 -135k - rm5600 monthly profit/person
All sale and expenses got transaction in our account
We also got submit our income to LHDN for year 2019&2020
Monthly saving around 4k - 6k
Occupation: morning market hawker
-we operate our business under our partnership enterprise
-profit by sharing in business enterprise account
-ssm 2year ++
Commitment :
For me: ptptn rm250 /left 13 year

Every month clear no outstanding
She : no commitment
Marital status : single
Currently : rent house rm1500 per month

Is our profile able get a loan for our 1st house purchase? What would be the loan margin and loan tenure? How much we need to prepare in order to buy second hand double storey with price 900k?Thanks for the advice

It is big chance to get 90% loan?
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Banks right now are still extremely conservative with lending, especially with self-owned business with F&B/retail/hawker as these are very dependent on human traffic (read: very susceptible to effects of pandemic and poor economic conditions) and consumer sentiment. With the likelihood of raised interest rates soon, they are likely to reduce the loan margin offered and/or offer higher interest rates. Chances are not high to get 90% for you and your GF's case, especially without a marriage cert tongue.gif

Assuming 90% loan without purchasing MRTA, at 30 years tenure with 3% interest rate (average lower rate that's offered by two of the lowest rates banks, Public Bank & Maybank, most other banks are higher), that'll be a little over RM3.4k/month repayment for house price of 900k.

To be safe, best for you to prepare at least 20% of purchase price on hand, not just for downpayment but for potential renovations as well.

You should also enquire directly with bankers to get potential chances, as each bank have their own criteria and strictness. Some banks are notoriously strict unless you're longtime existing customer, some very cincai and happy to give approval. Each bank also have different rates. These kinds of policy super hard to get on online forum because considers p&c biz info.
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post Dec 29 2021, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(digitalz @ Dec 24 2021, 09:35 AM)
Most likely can hit. But it depends on how the banks rate you in the current climate. Like what mini orchard mentioned, your epf contributions will help too.

But since its a subsale -

normally you will have to prepare the upfront  (10%) for deposit, then stamp duty fees etc (I think stamp duty would be around 20k+?)

Next, renovation fees / clearing fees / defect fees etc. Since its a double storey I'd assume a full reno / ID would be done so another 100k minimum.

So the rough estimate for now - around 200 - 250k?
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Are you prepared to fork out these? The money from your savings etc?

If you don't get 90%, then you will have to fork out even more.
TSvinlyy P
post Dec 29 2021, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(digitalz @ Dec 29 2021, 12:54 AM)
Are you prepared to fork out these? The money from your savings etc?

If you don't get 90%, then you will have to fork out even more.
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max can pay for 15%

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