i'm looking to buy a new car, i shortlisted these few cars

Altis 1.8, Subaru XV, Proton x70, Mazda CX-5, and Civic 2022. I've test drove most, except for CX-5(mid-spec, high spec way above my budget already) and Civic 2022.

My requirements are fairly simple, I need space for family (not big, currently 3 adults, and maybe 1 kid in the future), daily work commuting of about 30km per trip, and some outstation traveling for holiday (this is before pandemic, so probably will resume this after pandemic is eased).

What I am looking at for this new car

1. reliability, this is why a pre-owned passat did not get shortlisted even though a pre-owned is somewhere 120k
2. good driving experience on highway, I'm currently driving a myvi 1.5 and i really hate the feeling on highway when traveling even at 130km/h, so my new car i'm expecting it to be firm and stable at those speed with good nvh, i've tested City and Vios and both doesn't satisfy me for this, this is why i am looking at Seg C, or even Seg D.
3. fuel consumption, i know i can't compare this with my current myvi, but i don't want a fuel guzzler at the end of the day that creates a hole in my pocket.


appreciate any comments and suggestions.

This post has been edited by darude87: Nov 12 2021, 05:01 PM

Have you test drive all those cars you shortlisted?

majority tested, except for cx-5 and civic 2022

If you want space and stable on highway, go for Subaru XV or Mazda CX-5. Both are good buy in their segment.

when you say 3 adults I assume one is older generation? civic might be too low down for them to get on and off.
where as SUV is high up.

if that is your consideration as well.

This post has been edited by cempedaklife: Nov 12 2021, 05:15 PM

I'm driving MyVi 1.5 and Forester 2.0

On same stretch of road going to office. I probably get 20km/L (or 5L/100km) with MyVi and 6L/100km with Subaru, if you talk about fuel saving.

Cx-5 all the way

Mitsubishi Outlander

Altis 2.0 , peave of mind

Civic 2021 [ ketam ] if you get , else 2022

others, only being hyped but not really that great

1. Reliability: Most Jap made is quite reliable
2. Driving experience at 130km/h. D seg sedan then follow by C seg sedan.
3. FC: Sedan

So it is between Altis and upcoming civic 2022.

Note: ur criteria no. 2 and 3 lean more to sedan since they r lighter and more aerodynamic

This post has been edited by fishmango: Nov 12 2021, 09:15 PM

u meter read or actual calculate after refuel

u need sedan and skip all the suv becos hi speed aero a lot drag.
aim big rim then u r good to go

Toyota corolla cross hybrid.
Just freshly open for booking.
Realibility might still be in question since new model and fresh new batch ckd.
Everything else mostly matured tech that already ironed out all fault lol.

XV interior is just marginally bigger than a myvi.

may not be suitable for family of 3+1.

See if you prefer sedan or SUV, I tried sat on Altis, headroom is bad to me brushing my hair at rear seat.

SUV wise Although Subaru XV came with 2.0 engine, but fuel economy is pretty decent for its weight and engine displacement + AWD, Forester 2.0 I had driven got better FC than X50 for similar drive, and this car really stable with its Boxer engine low center of gravity design, only shortfall to me is not well equipped with active safety feature they promised previously, and many here hate Tan Chong a lot for some reason I'm not so sure of.

Mine to also share why X50 not in your list since you have considered XV?

In general highway speed sedan sure better than SUV, but SUV nowadays are pretty well built to cater high speed, except the very light build Ativa will not do well above highway speed.

there were 2 reasons why i ruled out x50, 1. extremely long waiting 2. wind noise is surprisingly loud at 140kmh

in a way i was not so fond to SUV back then, but again i told myself why not just go test them out then only decide

cross is quite long queue, cross hybrid i was told that it will be ckd already and the price is slightly above budget already

my wife was saying the cabin size is not impressive for xv, however xv gave me one of the best driving feeling among those i tested

Estima, X70, X50, Wish, Altis.

I would say Altis is the best choice but it would be abit cramped when u travel long distance with a baby. very hard to feed milk or keep the baby entertained.

Its better to get a bigger space car like X70, X50, or Wish.
If got budget can go for Estima or Alphard, Vellfire more comfort.

Reliability: altis=xv》cx5》civic》x70
Highway: Civic》altis》x70》xv》cx5
Space:Civic》altis》x70》cx5》xv
if the adult are old: suv》sedan
fuel consumption: civic=altis, xv, cx5, x70

Yeah really long waiting time,
For Wind Noise haven't tested 140km/h, however I tried 120km/h for recently collected model, seems like wasn't there anymore, just left with reasonable "Flub flub flub" wind noise which is reasonable at that speed for SUV(Comparing with Subaru Forester), not like those reviewer claimed "High Pitch" noise.

XV not small in term of cabin size, it was built based on C-Segment platform like the Imprezza,
I don't think Myvi space can come anywhere close compared with XV, Don't just look at the leg space available,
Myvi look spacious because they have really short seat that can't support your thigh sufficiently which is not comfortable for long distance ride.

Meter read. The meter is not fixed calculation. It varies according to current driving condition. In MyVi can look at CFC (Continuous Fuel Consumption) reading keep changing all the time. When you refuel, the estimated distance will based on your last filled FC if you reset the reading.

I'd say the calculation is correct. I've been comparing meter and actual refill at same gas station and even same pump until automatic stop. It was about the same. Different pump will give difference in amount about RM1~2.

I filled up the gas at same station in the morning and reset everything to zero and drive at constant speed. Comparing many trips., the results were pretty much the same.

can u teach us how to judge cabin size from inside and outside
ikut segment??

Bring a measuring tape, number don't lie.

hmm, i'll probably go test out cx-5, at the same time thinking to wait and try the brand new civic by next year or not

Just go out and test drive all the cars you listed and decide.

BTW Xv2 facelift with Eyesight safety system is going to come soon.

X70. Best bang for buck

3. Exclude X70 from your list if you want good FC. that thing is heavy as shit

The Cx5 is a fairly good choice and vast majority on the road are 2.0l GLS versions anyway. The good one is the diesel but it’s probably out of your budget.

3 adults? Assuming the one that sits at the back most often isn’t too tall or big on size then a sedan suits your needs.

I’d suggest you wait for the 2022 Honda HRV instead.

Subaru XV high ground clearance and AWD really amazed me. Sad thing is that malaysia subaru is very selfish to bring in the eyesight model

If they bring in 3 years ago. It will sell so popular like other countries like singapore , japan and taiwan

The AWD is no joke. Very stable at highspeed cruising at rainy day ( test drove on a rainy day 120km/h )

Mileage was pretty good despite being a 100% AWD. If other car brands use AWD confirm eat fuel like crazy like PX70 and mazda cx 5

And also it is probably one of the best small suv / crossover you can buy. If malaysia bring in the updated model with eyesight ( suzuki jimny can never steal its spotlight like never ever unless you are into 4x4 modification with 1/5 star ancap rating )

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Exclude Poton X70 if you want good FC. Either X50 or X70 eats fuel like monster truck

One full tank barely 400km and estimate always below than that amount during city or mix
. Even going 100% highway barely above 450-500km


I admit that the stuffs are best bang for buck but when it comes to FC , relability , parts and QC. Those are different story

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Mazda CX5 was my choice during the facelift and malaysia introduce the 2.2D model

If you plan to get a CX5 . AVOID 2.5 if you travel in cities more than highway same problem with X70
But their reliabity , parts and QC are way better than Poton



As for the other two sedans. Meh if you drive a real crossover/SUV ... you will never ever consider a sedan ever unless its a performance variant

This post has been edited by Eternalgl0ry: Nov 20 2021, 11:11 PM

the 1 sits at the back is an old man, body size just average asian man.
HRV 2022 is based on which model from overseas? maybe i can look at some pic and features 1st

After test driving most of the shortlisted cars, indeed XV gave me one of the best driving feeling. My only concern with it is the fuel consumption and the spare parts availability due to not as common as other jap made.
CX5 i have yet to test drive, but i see a lot of good comments about it, but looking at the price gap between the mid spec and high spec, other than sensors and what not, i wonder if it affects the overall driving experience

2022 HRV is an all new model that will replace the existing HRV, already launched in JDM and EDM, also recently launched in Thailand. Shouldn’t be too long before it’s launched here.

Altis.

The new Civic has gotten rave reviews overseas, and the interior is said to be close to Mazda 3 level [though not sure if this will translate to local Honda CKD cars]. Might have to wait quite a bit for it to launch locally though.

Subaru spare part is a lot nowadays.
You just need to know who & which spare part shop to go to, online platform like Shopee, Lazada, taobao also can get nowadays for those normal spare part items. In KL, Jalan Ipoh the big spare part suppliers like e-Vanli, See Soon (mostly older Subaru models), Auto Sommet can provide online payment and postal shipment nowadays even you are not nearby. I from Penang also can direct buy from them and ship to me the next day using pos laju or J&T, even my hometown Nibong Tebal small spare part shop also can get normal wear&tear items like oil/air filter/bearing/bush easily. Is not that damn rare nowadays due to previous CKD effort for Xv & Forester locally and with Toyota GT86/Subaru BRZ influence people start to gain more confidence and bring in more performance parts which is compatible with Xv & Forester (Example performance brake pads/rotor, etc). Once you knew as Subarist, you will know if there is a will there's a way. Aftermarket choice is damn way more options compare to Mazda if you really go deeper in term of modification route.

Regarding fuel consumption, is all depends on how & where you drive.
If drive moderately we got member getting average around 7~8L/100km for highway driving, while city driving around 8~10L/100km.
I drive the older gen Xv for almost 6 years mix driving around highway & city also can get around average 8~9L/100km easily.
FYI i pump Ron95 from BHP/Petronas only & newer gen Xv2 with direct injection engine should be even more fuel efficient.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Nov 24 2021, 10:32 AM

FYI, Xv2 facelift with eyesight is coming soon. It is going to launch in Thailand next month, Malaysia market will follow soon.
I believe paultan website got the article lately.

https://paul***.org/2021/11/23/2022-subaru-...-from-malaysia/

*** - fill in the tan

This post has been edited by littlefire: Nov 24 2021, 08:58 AM

yea man, i saw the images of interior, looks elegant imo. However i heard many stories about honda ckd quality for the past few years which kinda worries me.

good insight there, at least now i know its not as scarce as many would thought. My daily route for work is all about traffic jam, so i wonder how does it fare when its in such situation

the XV was fun to drive. but boot space is way too small.

think the CX-5 tick most of your boxes.

Yup. If not mistaken Mazda previously pit the CX-3 & CX-30 against the Xv (Similar category) and both of the space especially the rear passenger is not that great (Same as CX-5). You gain more boot space, but rear passenger space sacrifice. Sure got some pro & con, depending on how the engineers/designers want to give.

If want to compare to CX-5 the new SK Forester should be the same category. SK Forester gain a lot more space nowadays.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Nov 24 2021, 10:23 AM

For me it's between the Altis, X70 and CX-5.

leaned slightly towards the X70 (price and equipment) and Altis (TNGA platform, prefer it's looks over the Civic, bullet proof reliability).

As for the civic 2022, will need to look at it's specs before deciding. Not a fan of it's rear mho.

1. no comment
2. any car other than Proton Saga , Myvi, have way better driving experience. u want Segment C and D , it gonna cost u more than RM110k for sure. get an accord or civic.
3. Fuel consumption wise , if u opt for Seg c and d , it will be 10km/l in highway max. u want good FC, only seg B can fulfill u ...

there is good FC car in Seg c and seg d car....when u worry about FC, i assume u need to look into car maintenance cost as well, especially after 5yrs....

My suggestion is that you go with a SUV.
That narrows your choices to Subaru XV and Mazda CX5.
Both are very comfortable with good NVH reduction.
If you prefer a more stylish car, my choice would be Mazda CX5.

This post has been edited by Pacmangoku: Nov 24 2021, 11:44 AM

Wait for Corolla Hybrid which is highly likely to be released next year

Or you can just test drive the Corolla Cross Hybrid soon since you are open to SUVs in your choices

no problem with fuel consumption for subaru xv

Easy 700km - 850km without using the whole 60L

7.5L - 8.5L / 100km ? ?? should be around that


The last time i test drove a subaru xv was my friend's car. He was in another state so he let me drive to send/ his wife to work

There is one time i filled around 59L. Traveled around 850km

But average i fill up every 50L - 55L ... Distance is always around More than 650km

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Also want to say since subaru xv have excellent ground clearance . It is actually very good for off road
Ever have that feeeling to avoid those stone blocks or those low dividers beside near the parking area? Dont worry about it... i even try to climb over it lol. No harm done to vehicle at all ...

The X MODE helps a lot even though it is not that *awesome* like a 4x4 but it does the job well. Funny thing is no wheel spin or slip problems


I would change to all terrain tires if it was my car and lift it with ironman suspension

This post has been edited by Eternalgl0ry: Nov 25 2021, 02:39 PM

forester now got 30k discount although a bit ugly. its big enough to fit 5 adults

Wait for HRV 2022, looks gooding

Trust me, if you have small kids, consider boot space and yes sedan should provide sufficient foe luggage..

Once you child have grown up, a SUV shoulf be fine

Depending on each person point of view, for me i felt macho look with the Forester.
Overall it is a good ride, even carlist did a youtube SUV battle review not long ago and is the final winner after combine all the points.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Nov 26 2021, 11:26 AM

Well, it can make the driver looks handsome

I test drove the forester on the same day after XV, man the car feels like sampan when going thru uneven road which i don't know why

or you can just het the base model X70 at 89k and use the savings from lower installments to pay for fuel.
Base model x70 seems to tick all of the boxes.

Overall on your list Forester have good visibility compare to other,modern uncle looks exterior if you have very good diy mechanic skills can order part directly from japan without via local Subaru after out of warranty

Is okay go for turbo variant, as usual most driver afraid of boxer legendary issue, but if you like it can maintain it won't be issue

before this i didn't research much on subaru, what's with boxer legendary issue ?

Most common issue if you search at google

Subaru uses the Boxer engine which has a horizontal design and pistons lay flat in the cylinder. When the engine is turned off, the fluids tend to pool next to the head gaskets instead of draining, and over time acids in the fluids eat away at the seals. The gaskets deteriorate and oil and coolant fluids start leaking

If you not a Subaru master race just avoid about it,

Stay far2 away from a X70/geely. Don't take my word. Go to the x70 facebook group, multiple gearbox issues a day. Almost guaranteed to get a broken radiator fan motor. The people are frustrated where even small parts could take weeks or even months to be replaced.

This post has been edited by jcheong: Dec 4 2021, 03:21 PM

Well, i am driving the 1st gen of Xv using FB20 engine. Already over 6 years with 170k, with proper maintenance no issue with the head gaskets. Some member also over 200k without issues. If your saying the previous old EJ generation, maybe yes but that also been solve with new gasket design & material change. You need to ask real owner or mechanic which deal Subaru cars to know.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 6 2021, 11:42 AM

nice info sharing there, I'm actually slightly leaning towards xv after test driving one. But I heard there will be a facelift coming soon ?

Yes. Xv facelift with Eyesight is coming soon.
Mostly early next year.

I dont recall the official dealer bring in Turbo version of Forester. Unless if you say AP car dealer then it would be different story all together.

Only the previous SJ gen got bring in official unit from Motor Image Malaysia.
It is knew as Forester XT.

If got old passenger, just ignore cars like civic la, i'm only in my mid 30's, when I get in and out of civic i will curse that car. Personally driving the XV2 for 1 year already, really love it.

Fuel consumption for me is 9+ litre per 100km in city drive, about 8+ for highway drive. I managed to reach 7.8 ish range by driving like a stupid slow poke road hogger la, it wasnt fun or realistic for me, it definitely wasnt any fun for cars behind me. But do consider the fact that my car is probably 30-50kg heavier than normal due to sound proofing.

ahh, nice info coming from both cars owner. Civic is really that low eh? I once borrowed friend's passat cc to fetch my parents and they really struggle badly to get on and get off.

The driving feeling on XV indeed is really fun. That's why I had a hard time deciding now

The Civic 2022 is now available for booking.

Looks pretty good in RS guise. Question remains is the price tag. Several media outlets have claimed that the civic is moving up market compared to the previous gen. Hopefully the price doesn't increase by much. Would consider the RS if priced below 140k.

My personal advice, if never driven AWD rides just go for it and take it as a life experience. A lot of people always ask me no scare buy this & that but i always ask them if you never experience it at least one time how you know? Real full time AWD ride is really getting less nowadays and Subaru & Audi (Quattro) is the nearest they can give for the best AWD system in market nowadays. The rest manufacturer mostly are just part time AWD or either FWD or RWD.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 20 2021, 11:38 AM

now i change mind. buy the tallest car
maybe u should too

It really is.

As for you loving the driving feeling, just buy lo, next XV gonna get eyesight. If not now, then when? If you dont need to worry about aged passengers, then probably new civic will be more fun, but still depend on your driving habit and style la, for me simple:

1. I dont want low car, i'm fatty, hard to get up and down, plus bad experience from my friend's civic, but persona that kinda higher sedan is ok
2. I'm more of a nerdy person, so XV's simple design in and out is actually way more appealing to me, civic and altis have that old chunky looking "TV" that I cannot accept, Mazda 3 is pretty in and out, but once i sat into the driver seat, it felt so cramped and there's so many distraction around the driver side, not to my liking.
3. I dont know much about "ride and handling", but test drive on the XV felt different, for a SUV, it's very stable and fun round the corner, but again i didnt test enough car in my life to know enough about "ride and handling"
4. Not the most popular opinion, I do like CVT, I feel that CVT give me the smooth ride feeling, I dont quite understand the "passion" of AT la, i just want my ride to be smooooooth like butter, and XV's CVT is actually very very comfy feeling, as for the lack of power for acceleration, doesn't matter to me la, how many time do we need to over take people? how many time in a year we need to floor the pedal other than for fun only?
5. Car boot is small, once you open the boot instantly can tell it's small, so if wanna fetch passenger and many luggage, it's not the best option, but it's a compact C segment la, so realistically, how big can it be before you need to pay more for the higher segment? For me it's ok since I dont usually have back passengers, and I've moved house, buy and transport 1.8m shelve components from IKEA, etc with my XV, just fold down the seats and it's big enough for all your usage la.
6. FC is just like that la, SUV + AWD, cannot fight with sedan in anyway.

I think once you sit down and think what you want to do with the car, what you care more, what you dont care, then it's easy to select the car. The worst case scenario, you dont like it, 3-5 years later just change lo...

subaru

Hi TS,
I'm very much in the same situation as you, I tested the ketam Civic and even at 39 years old with good bones and posture I can feel the difficulty. I am a big fan of Civic since EG in 90's.

To me I won't make decision until I sit in FE and my back and thighs tell me to fork off hahaha, or the new price too high until its out of range. Even then, I may buy it and suffer the depreciation when selling it in 5 years time....

Among the other cars you have, my personal take is that without ADAS, its not worthwhile. Think of the 1 time you can avoid a big crash, and the 10's of times you can avoid the fender benders. How much is that worth?

Can I suggest Corolla cross? It is firmly in my thoughts right now.

yea currently i'm holding until i get to try on civic FE also. ADAS i think is quite common in newer cars already ,kinda hard to avoid it i guess?

I'm not too fond to cross actually just because of the look, I have a friend who owns 1, and he did gave me good feedback on cross as well. And I was told by my Toyota SA cross queue is quite long also currently.

Yeah, but the XV and CX-5 does not have ADAS and by the time they launch with it, you also won't know how far the price gone up and how long the wait times too...

Indeed Cross looks so early 2000's as well as having a lethargic 1.8 engine, but in my own opinion, can last me easily grow old with me for the next 10 years (the non hybrid).

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5225992


fffuuu, the facelift for XV cost 140k and above, its either i get now, or i wait for civic already, year end promo for XV is 127k or 129k i forgot

Civic quite low.. my wife already disapproved it.. lol..

bro, u sure can get year end promo for *NEW* XV even if you bought it NOW (year end)? By all probability the car will register next year anyway unless ready stock?

I personally hesitate with the mediocre boot space. Its really kind small for my family needs. Not sure how much you will need eventually.

Yes. Price for sure is going up due to raw material cost up quite high over the year. It should be still able to justify due to the added eyesight safety features, if you can wait, wait until next year end usually Subaru will give discount.

Many people will say that ADAS waste money, "i've driven car for X years, no ADAS also no problem, bla bla bla" but they failed to realized that you only really need ADAS you save you and your family that 1 time, just that 1 time probably somebody dont need to die in the accident, and that itself is priceless.

Im so envy of the new 2022 XV, finally got eyesight, and eyesight have a very good reputation for it's ADAS. And do note that not all ADAS is born equal, some brand's ADAS is better than others.

Just for the knowledge of others, I do understand that the Evesight of Subaru requires owner not to fix and windscreen tinting.

Especially the black strip on top that most of us do due to strong sunlight.

its exactly the same as buying expensive life insurance. In case of ADAS, pay 1 time, protect forever - I think its a great package.

Of course not all ADAS is the same, do you know which one does not work so well? I know that earlier generation Peroduas with vision camera system always highlight that it is not perfect especially when visibility is low. Radar + latest camera should be better no?

Even latest tesla's are moving away from radar and going for camera. And we still don't really have Lidar system yet.

I believe most/all ADAS system especially with camera also cannot tint the upper part window due to blockage of the vision.
You can only compensate with more better quality tint at inner side.

BTW, black strip or dark tint does not mean the UV sunlight or heat cannot go in.
Some professional tint shop with UV lighting equipment can prove to you that some good quality clear tint did better in term of UV & heat rejection.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 21 2021, 11:40 AM

How about USED Tiguan? Less than 10k mileage and built year 2019 ones also seem to fall within TS' budget already.

HRV 2022 I can predict a very long order queue and big jump in price.

This post has been edited by BaboonZ: Dec 21 2021, 12:13 PM

At the moment its a relatively small family of 3. So i don't need extremely big boot space

xv 2022 i doubt they will give discount due to its new, they are still doing clearance for xv 2021 with 10k off from rrp

i'm not fond to vw due to their past reputation, if not i would have considered a pre-owned passat too.

I think if just 3 probably will be ok. But small kids and balik kampung in my personal experience is stroller + milk and this and that lol. Only you will know I guess. With my Gen 1 myvi it was a disaster for me at 200l and 1 baby, to the point I gave up travelling with it when I had 2 lol.

Now for the more important issue of lacking ADAS, I will not spend over 100k for a car without it.

I’d personally rather buy a HRV and save the coin. Or an xpander or something…

I always travel with my Xv some more with 4 adults during holidays to Thailand & around Malaysia, i believe is all about how you manage the stuff and you got roof liner to add on thule or additional cargo carrier. If just 3 person, you can always fold the rear seats down half and extend the space. Not to say bad about HRV, in order to increase inner space the side door plastic panel & door they make it thinner. If you go do some research about side door impact Honda HRV scored the worse now in it's category.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/2021-honda-hr-...s-crucial-area/

In a few different tests, the Honda HR-V received Good ratings. This is the highest score a vehicle can earn. But in the updated side safety test, it got a poor rating. This is the lowest score possible.

The HR-V’s B-Piller or verticle roof support tore away from the frame, allowing the side of the vehicle to crush inward. It almost hit the center of the driver’s seat. It struggled with structural issues and failed to protect crash dummies from head and pelvic injuries.

BTW this is compared with the current old HR-V.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 22 2021, 03:10 PM

You also got a point there… but in the general scheme of safety I think if TS wanna give up ADAS then the consideration for active and passive safety features would be a lot different by then. Possibly any modern subaru would be a clear winner in the non ADAS category, the question is, is it worth it to spend north of 120k ? My own answer is clear no, not when a Ativa can do it for 70k and carry 4 adults too. Or a myvi can do the similar job for 60k.

4 adults is never really a difficulty, it’s often the kids that need the most provisions. Adults on the other hand can go outstation for days with just a backpack if necessary.

Forget to add on, usually we went for camping & fishing trip for at least 3~4 days and the stuff is damn a lot.
Just imagine 1 person bring at least 2~3 fishing rod with 6~7 feet length in the ride, 1 bag pack + sleeping bag, tent, camping accessories & 60~100L of cooler box (sometime got 2 box) in the rear with all the ice & food. All come down on how you arrange the stuff like playing mix & match.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 22 2021, 06:02 PM

Just get altis. U gonna cry with civic quality. Totally trash. Honda quality is depreciating every year

so i finally decided to book for a subaru XV 2021 as i think paying 131k is kind of my limit already. now waiting for my car to be delivered

congrats, this is the new one or the old one?

i went with the old 1, without eyesight
the price for eyesight is out of my budget, and the changes really just that eyesight itself only

Can I know what is the price you paid for in the end? Did you get the year end discount?

You will enjoy the car on the road dont worry. Which color did you picked?

Bro, good decision.
When received you may join the Subaru Xv Club Malaysia in fb to gain more support and event.

I took GT spec, the final price that i get from them is 131,788. Free 3+2 years of free labours and parts service. Free tinting + coating.
The breakdown of the discount based on what i asked them is 5k tax rebate, 2k subaru rebate, the rest from salesman pocket

Hopefully, 1 of the reason i went for xv is because of the driving feelings i got during test drive. I took the dark blue GT.

Thanks, i already joined a subaru xv malaysia fb group, but its an open group and i saw a lot of ppl posting ads in there