Hey guys,

Bajaj has been on our shores for awhile and has been gaining alot of traction due to its affordable price brackets, decent performance, sleek looks, outstanding FC, affordable maintenance and a great starter "tanked" bike for moped riders to ease into higher CC.

Models sold here are the

RS200
NS200
NS200 ABS
Dominar 400
Dominar 400UG

I'm an owner, turned foreman, had tonnes of experience with Bajaj products in Malaysia and recently setup shop and also got our shop officially "Modenas Service Plus".

Purpose of this thread is to assist the growing number of owners(in general, without specifically promoting my shop) and also do my best to answer questions from future owners who are currently considering to purchase the above bike.

So please feel free to shoot!

if u got 'lobang' can get a copy (photocopy oso can) of service manual, i wana buy.

We're bound by contract not to disclose, but if im not wrong i think you can purchase the workshop manual from Modenas SC. I do have an older outdated version for the NS on softcopy though. Will share when i get to my PC later

That said, if you want some reference or spec on certain topics i might be able to help

Service manual cannot disclose one? I think some brands I know are openly providing it for their bikes.
basilisk which model cannot find? I try my luck and see?

which brand? openly provide ..

normally is not openly for sale to the public.

brand like dukahati , triumph langsung kenot easily find / get, the service staff hv to log in online n view n log out, stuff liddat.

but in the usa, like harley can buy. other jap brand oso got sell in the us for public/bike owner.

you're right, just never checked official sites, normally just google bike model and will have owners forum post liao.

yup in most cases "officially" cannot, but its the internet age afterall... plenty of copies out in the www.

My total garbage low quality ModernAss Dominar has now developed a new problem as the odometer passed the 10,000km mark.

Anytime I pull the throttle more than half & when the tacho passes 5000rpm, it starts to backfire & fart its brains out. I lost half my engine power.

That, and the fork seal has started to leak.... AGAIN.

No choice but limp back to ModernAss service center to claim warranty FOR THE THIRD TIME.

Dominar quality sucks cock.

I loathe to post this on the usual FB groups coz there are fanboys there who will defend to the hilt every defect on this bike.

For example, my constantly leaking fork seals are said that be my fault because I didn't cough up more money to install fork gaiters, since Modenas Bajaj fork seals are so special & exotic that they cannot stand dust particles. Not a quality problem, ok!

The other defense was that Modenas Bajaj Dominar fork seals are specially made to function when the bike is ridden daily, so if they leak it's my fault for not riding my bike often enough. Not a quality problem, ok!

Retards. They think I'm 16 riding a birthday gift daddy gave me.

Now I have this engine farting problem. The fanboys will definitely accuse me of twisting the throttle wrongly. Not a quality problem, ok!

I hate this Bajaj piece of shit with a passion.



This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Oct 23 2021, 07:55 PM

I guess you're the unlucky guy here who got the faulty one, my dominar's only problem was the rear brake no grippy after twice bleeding and I'm back to usual.

welp, thats sad to hear bro. I do agree that finishings level definitely isnt up to par, especially mini attention to details. And definitely isnt "OK" and dont agree with fanboys defending existing issues with even more... uhh.. "quality" arguements. To add to this, quality check is obnoxious for all Bajaj especially 2020 onwards. If you lurk in groups enough, you'd notice that 90% of users that has issues with their bikes, are new users or owners who are still under 15k mileage.

Now my personal rant aside, for the price you pay for that dominar, you probably wont be able to get anything else remotely close to what it has to offer. Issues that are haunting the bike arent major issues that cant be fixed.

For your fork issue, you might want to consider aftermarket seals, Ariete performs and last and they arent expensive either. I just ordered some recently to stock up and addressing this issue.

As for your throttle response (farting) issue, you might wanna make use of that warranty and visit any SC or Service Plus to get your bike scanned for errors. My first thoughts are most likely issues with your TPS or sensors.

For warranty and claims, might want to consider visiting Service Plus instead of Dealer, depending on the shop, some of us arent that strict with protocols and alot easier to deal with and provide alternative solution instead of the standard by the book SOP while retaining your warranty.

Yup bro, this is a persisting issue since first gen Doms. Indeed simple bleeding solves the issue, but, instead of bleeding, id recommend flushing out the brake fluid altogether and replacing it with something other than bajaj. While most of their parts and components dont have much issues, their consumables/fluids are definitely something i find hard to recommend, aside from warranty purposes.

For the peace of mind. I ride Jap bikes.
No China or India bike.

Fair enough, but to be frank, no bike is without its issues, be it Jap or European. Their number of recalls arent fun to remember either, I personally had experience with a number of Suzuki recall back in Japan.

I think its better for everyone if we keep an open mind to products without huge discrimination on their make and origin be it China or anywhere else, tech and manufacturing is improving rapidly so are their management. The japanese/european bike you're currently riding are most likely made in India/Thailand/Indonesia etc.

The best peace of mind, is an open mind and to realize machines are made by human and humans, aren't free of errors.

ZZR-Pilot I can feel the pissed off-ness.
seems there got ting ting tik tik sound? What is that? I hope it's not cam chain loose and everything just hitting at each other.

i noticed some noises from the exhaust. Tbh, not a fan of the "dual exhaust" on a single cylinder, its just unnecessarily weird and over complicating simple mechanics

Also, i just browsed through my recently acquired DOM4 UG workshop manual, the valve clearance it calls for is pretty big for an engine this size. Which should explain the louder than usual tappet sound.

Funny you should say that. Today I noticed rust has started to develop on my left fork stanchion. This, despite the fact in the 10,000km I hv had this bike from new, it spent the vast majority of its life parked in the condo basement parking lot. Facepalm.

My cheebye TNT600 communist tongsan bike had far superior build quality. I bought it off a one-time huat farmer who left it to rot under his house for a whole year, where mice made a nest in its airbox. It ran without a hiccup in the 5 years I owned it as a daily driver. No rust, no leaks, no nothing.



Bike is still under warranty until Jan, so I might as well send it back to Modenas.... for the THIRD time since I dropped RM13k at Eang Chun.

Beyond that, I'll probably check you out. It will be good business for you for sure to service suckers like me who were seduced by the ringgit-to-displacement ratio that Modenas used as bait to con us into buying this piece of shit.



Back in the day, the usual suspects would hv been the spark plugs, HT lead, ignition coil or flooded carb/bad diaphragm.

The Modenas place in Kg Subang, Shah Alam that I always send my bike to is a Service Plus place.

They replaced my brake master cylinder & fork seals, all of which failed again within 5000km.

The whole thing is just shit through and through.

Now it only has 1 job left to do... train my wife on her first few thousand kms when she gets her bike license... then I'm getting rid of this horseshit.

After coughing up cash for a new Triumph Tiger 850, I skipped work to send my Dominar back to the Kg Subang service center yet again.

By now, I'm already a familiar face there.

Ran into yet another fanboi while I was there. He accused me of not bothering to read the manual about fork seal maintenance. I told him off.. on which page in the freaking owner's manual does it say anything about fork seal maintenance? "Oh.. ini petua yg sepatutnya ada dalam manual, tapi entah kenapa Modenas tak taruk".

Dah kantoi.

Tak cukup kantoi 1 kali, he goes on to claim that the real maintenance requirement for fork seals is to not let the fork stanchions dry. Need to use axle grease or gearbox oil on the stanchions in order to preserve the fork seals.

Why do fanboys always insult me like this? Me getting a lemon not enough ah?

To further rub salt into my wound, the Grab ride back to Ampang costed me RM70 coz it's hard to get a regular Grab driver around that godforsaken area.

i bet you are a fun guy to hangout with when shit talking about other bikes. .

i have a friend who rides pulsar on daily basis and rides for about 150km both ways. he state that he rather have his buttocks cramp riding a kapchai rather than that bike.

LOL.. actually I talk shit about the bike I own, because having gone thru so much frustration with this bike I am actually qualified to do so.

It has been 3 weeks since I personally sent my bike back to Modernas Kg Subang to get it fixed under warranty for the 3rd time. Still no news from them.

While waiting, I have enrolled my wife into a driving school to get her B Full licence, she has studied and passed her JPJ exam and she has received her L license. She will start her riding lessons soon and she needs this stupid India bike to practice on.... haizzz....

Seeing what I have gone through with this bike, she doesn't feel confident relying on this hunk of Indian junk for her daily commute. When the insurance expires in Feb nxt year, I will have to reinsure it with some kind of roadside assistance service for her. She needs to thrash this bike for a year before getting rid of it & buying a new bike of her choosing.

My customer experience with the Dominar 400 has been utterly S.H.I.T.E.

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Nov 18 2021, 02:07 PM

Lol
I ride big bikes for almost 30 years.

None of the Jap bikes I rode and ride require this kind of maintenance on the fork stanchions.
The most is I clean it when I wash bike.
No leak whatsoever.

So after this. Just make sure you get a more reputable bike brand
Less headache.

Bro, how the Tiger 850 experience? Good? Asking because want to know Tiger performance, hope getting Tiger 660 later.

The Tiger 850/900 is a completely different animal (pun intended) compared to the Tiger 660.

I bought it to do what my Dominar failed to do - to tour 2-up with wife & luggage in comfort & with shitloads of grunt. Even in its "detuned" guise, Triumph's new 888cc t-plane triple hauls ass with a passenger on board in any gear!

Being new to adv tourers, seat height & weight are of special concern to me & surprisingly the cheaper 850 ticks both boxes better than the rest of the 900s. After a trip to the famous Has Cushion, I can now flatfoot the damn thing when loaded up with wife & luggage with the rear preload 3/4 max.... and that's a huuuge boost to my confidence in handling my first proper adv tourer.

None of this has anything to do with your 660 though. However you'll get the same top-notch purchasing experience I enjoyed. First there's the test ride - take your time to go thru every inch of the bike to discover that Triumphs are generally exceptionally well built & they are rich in the little details (ie logo stamped on the swingarm, deep lacquered paint etc!) Salesman bagi layanan penuh tu toksah ceritalah since it's a given coz they take special pride in having successfully acquired you as their customer... but once the bike is yours, you can come while they walk you thru the pre-PDI check where the guy will explain in greater detail in ins & outs of the bike. On the delivery day, you'll go thru a handover ritual where they'll go thru the delivery order checklist with you, hand you your nice Triumph zipper folder with ur spare key (the keys look fabulous!), lock barrels, manual, svc book etc. They'll take your photo with your shiny new bike with a full tank of fuel & add you to the RATpack group. There is a sense of welcoming into a family, so to speak.

I got jack shit when I bought my Dominar. They handed me my geran + keys & chased me out in 5 minutes. There was just barely enough fuel in the tank to reach the nearest petrol station! Eang Chun guys didn't even know my name & frankly they didn't care. Now I have to live with a shit bike for another year.

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Nov 22 2021, 10:23 AM

Thanks bro for the review. Yeah it is different beast, but hope some of the characteristics hand over. Hahaha... Ride seat comfortable with std seat?

My wife is interested in the Trident 660 and is in the process of doing her B Full license. When she's ready, we intend to test ride the bugger & see what the new 660 triple engine is all about.

The salesman advised me against opting for the Tiger 900 GT Low version since it includes not only a lower seat but also reduced suspension travel. Happily though I found the stock seat on my 850 to be adequate in the stock low position, requiring shaving off just a few mm to make it just perfect.

Again, the Tiger 660 is a diff bike. Recommend you sign up for a test ride when it arrives next year.

how to compare ler a bike tht's over 5x the price

we see your face on triumph fb dy...

meanwhile the dominar will cont to hv other heppy owners...

For RM13000, can we at least expect a bike that does not come with rust water in the radiator, leaking fork seals & brakes that don't work...

... or is that far too much to ask?

Good to know others are happy with their D400.

Me, my direct personal experience with this bike as an owner has not been pleasant. For example, right now it has been stuck at the Modenas Svc Ctr in Kg Subang for 4 bloody weeks already for its 3rd warranty claim. Tell me who's happy with that, even if it's a RM5k kapcai?


This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Nov 22 2021, 10:26 AM

Let's just say there's some bad QC on some of the bikes , Some of us like me for example don't have any major issues as for most of the user on the Dominar FB group.
I never went to their official service centre only back to EC motor for servicing cuz their service centre always full and need to wait for at least a month for appointment.

I too avoid the Modernass retards like the plague as much as I can, so I service the bike elsewhere.

But when the bike shat itself and I needed to claim warranty, Eang Chun told me fuck it wait for the lorry to come to load up the bike & send it to... yep you guessed it... Modenas Kg Subang, Shah Alam.

LPPL.

So better pray to god Modenass made your bike on a good day, not on a Friday when those lazy bastards cut corners to go home early for the weekend. Otherwise, you will know my pain when you have to claim warranty...

As a side note bro, you can also claim at Service Plus, Service Plus operators are technically independent, hence some are more than happy to help you claim and you can definitely expect better service than SC.

I'd say most are pretty happy as far as i know. Problems aren't major and easily resolvable, most decide spend some money to fix those issues permanently, it beats having to claim via modenas and have it recur again and suffer downtime and the hassle of the procedures.

I'm coming up to 500 first service for my UG. Do I have to go back to EMOS to make use of my free service coupon or can I do it at any modenas sc?

U can do it at any authorized modenas SC/service plus/dealers. Do ensure you have the oil filter replaced AND ensure they are original modenas/bajaj ones to safeguard your warranty. Some stricter SC will inspect your filter and other consummables in case of a warranty claim.

Wa EC screw you until liddat meh

I oso bought my NS from there but didn't receive that kind of experience rofl

Also OP, weren't you the guy who posted his workshop showing off an NS with a round headlight mod in MPOC FB group?

Looking to get a windshield of about 45 to 50cm and a crossbar to mount accessories in the middle instead of relying on screwing in the mirror mount. How much would these additions usually cost?

This post has been edited by overl33t: Nov 26 2021, 06:06 PM

EC didn't want to deal with warranty claims, refused to make Modenas's lousy QC their problem. They taichi me back to Modernas Shah Alam in Kg Subang, siap suruh tinggal motor tunggu lori datang angkut when they're free.

Incidentally... my bike is still there, coming to 5 weeks edy waiting for them to honour their warranty.

I think I need to go there tomorrow and hound them myself.

Really beh than man....

Motor Modenas, tapi bila claim warranty kena tunggu macam Ducati.

just to chip in here.

clean the maf sensor insiode the air filter box. i diagnosed it something wrong with the maf voltage thru obd.

happen to my friend's dominar d400. this is due to air-fuel mixture backflow during throttle closure, thus contaminate the sensor. the sensor is bosch sensor.

just buy throttle body cleaner from mr diy will do.

ecu need to read the amount of air coming in, the contaminated sensor give erratic reading thus the problem.

This post has been edited by hr_elie: Nov 26 2021, 11:36 PM

if you guys are open sunday, i'll drop by with my coupon

Ye thats me and that black NS is mine :rofl:

I havent started stocking up on windshields, most windshield for the NS are installed over the stock "windshield", which i find rather filmsy. Theres this guy, windbro selling the bracket, its sturdy, but offers very little in terms of angle adjustment and looks pretty cumbersome. The bar you were mentioning is indeed usefull, but can get messy and clutter things up alot, i find that the easiest way to mount stuff is to move over to fatbar or just regular 22mm bar with a riser adapter. Looks alot neater too and provides a more comfortable riding position.

Also to add, we discovered multiple v1 and v2 user having this problem which leads back to water seeping into their tank. Early signs are rust spotted along the lips opening under the tank lid. The MAF sensor would definite go haywire when your fuel mix is contaminated with water. Light cases gives occasional stutter, most user reports problem going away after refuelling couple of times. In a severe case, the bike wouldnt even idle and was vibrating harder than an excavator when throttle forcefully opened to keep engine running and the exhaust smells aweful. A full tank flush was needed and the issue went away. Do check if you happen to have this, if you do, i suggest finding an o-ring the size of your rubber flange on the lid seal and place it under the seal to further reinforce sealing.

Yep we open daily for now. See you on sunday :smile:

i see. thanks for the insight. will check on my friends.

Hound only. If still dunwan then post on FB only so that other people are deterred from going to EC.

I paid the Modenas Svc Ctr a visit today to find out why my bike is still stuck there after 5 weeks.

The farting problem has been rectified. They hv replaced the ignition coil, runs fine now according to them.

To address my angry complaint about the fork seals that repeatly leak despite being replaced under warranty, they're replacing the fork stanchions for new ones from India. Yep.. the chrome leg... both of them. Brand new ones. The new stanchions shd be in by early Dec.

New fork stanchions aren't something you'd consider a 'simple fix' or something regular workshops are prepared to propose.

ok great bro, need to make appointment?

wow new set from india.... i wonder why though, the part is already available locally, we received our stock last week. Welp, modenas and their SOP, better not squeeze our brain for that

Yup regular workshop arent usually prepared for a warranty claim, i don't wanna sound hard sell or anything like that, but we've managed to cut short the wait time significantly for all our regular customers that come to us for warranty claim by offering what we have in stock first upon system approval instead of waiting for something from India via SC's protocols/SOP.

And reason why i proposed aftermarket fix is, the flaw is in there itself in its unlikely a new stanchion/chrome tube will fix it permanently. KTM's Duke and RCs(which is where D4 UG fork came from) arent exempted from the fork issue, one of my recent case is a friend earlier this week busted his RC390 oil seal on a trackday on a bike that clocked under 5k mileage and literally half his bike soaked wet in fork fluid.

nope bro, just hop right in.

Daily? Imma gonna need this when my bike runs out of warranty in Feb.

What is the name and location of your shop?

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Nov 28 2021, 05:12 AM

We're located in Puchong bro, Vi Motowerkz, can't post link on a probation account

https://www.facebook.com/JayViMTWZ/

I finally got my bike back from Modenas after a good month and a half waiting, but my joy was shortlived when the speedo died just before I reached home.

Seriously WTmotherF....!!

I'll pop over tomorrow.

you sir is one of the unluckiest D400 owner

My Dominar is now officially on its 4th warranty claim. FOURTH.

The ABS system has shit itself, after a week Vi says it will take another 3 fcuking weeks just to get the claim approved.

So that's one whole month more, on the back of 1.5 months stick in Modenas getting the fork stanchion + seals & ignition coil replaced under the 3rd warranty claim.

This piece of shit motherfcuker only has 1 job to do -- to let my wife train for her B Full test -- and even that simple job it cannot fcuking do.

Fcuking disgusted & angry.

If I'm an owner of such bike. I'll push it into the lake and never want to see it again.

Hope that the next bike your are getting isn't any India or China made bike. I never trust these bikes.

Already bought another bike to replace it.

Now my wife needs to train on it for her B Full test. If it weren't for that I would have gotten rid of it a long time ago.

Her driving school refused to teach her how to ride coz is it'll take more hours than what her RM850 package includes, instead they told her to piss off & learn to ride somewhere else first using somebody else's bike.

So now the thinking is that once she passes her test, I'll trade it in for an SV650 or CB650R for her.

Easier said than done, coz even training my wife is too big a deal for the D400 - it keeps crapping out & prefers to spend f**king MONTHS hibernating inside a Modenas workshop instead of letting my wife train on it.

Wow
Which riding school is that.

How is she riding so far ?
There are some good riding YouTube channel which she can learn from. Try looking into Motojitsu. Love his riding tips and training.

For a beginner, between SV650 or CB650R, i would say sv650 will be easier to handle especially in the throttle. V-twin win be more easy for her.
Seat height both are quite similar. But I find sv is much more compact.
Unless she is hooked onto the sound of inline4, then CB is the one.

This post has been edited by skyblu3: Jan 2 2022, 09:59 AM

Akademi Propandu. So now she needs my D400 to practice on.

She has never ridden a motorcycle before ever, so she needs to lean static & dynamic balancing, countersteering, clutch & low speed control.

She took 2 classes from Hafiz Azmi who owns Hafiz Azmi Riding School to get her off the ground on a clutch cubkia, the rest is me coaching her on my D400 Superturd (coz no way in hell imma gonna let her touch my Tiger). She can ride now after 3 weeks but still needs lots & lots of riding hours to build her confidence.

One good thing about the D400 Superturd is that I totally don't care if she drops the bike -- turns out that the stock crash bars are more than adequate to deal with it. In fact I'm happy she dropped it twice while making a low speed turn after stalling the engine, coz now she knows what it's like, what the warning signs are that the bike's gonna drop & how to fall away from a bike.

The only caveat is that the rubber gasket around the petrol filler cap is so utterly shite, petrol will leak like crazy when you drop the bike. A f**king fire hazard, on top of being unreliable!

She does like the sound of the Honda, the design of the bike is more practical than the Triumph Trident. But somehow she feels the SV650 is easier to manage (skinny bike & I bet Suzuki's Low RPM Throttle Assist will be a big hit with newbies like her). Me, I'd go for a cheap used XJ6 coz I know she gonna drop it too! Lol...

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Jan 2 2022, 02:50 PM

hello frm modenas. ..

quite a few bikes will leak petrol when on its side. Hahaha.



17k on my DOM. usual suspects, mushy rear brake (dealer had no clue, had to properly bleed and flush it myself), fork seal and now the infamous random stalling and choking . Looks like this problem also afflicts KTMs as well, so it is likely a deep seeded bajaj problem. MAF sensor issue or something....same issue with the 390. The DOM was built cheap, but thats ok since the bike IS cheap.

However, mine is properly used. 9 months highway balik kampung, off-road (so i'm not surprised of my busted fork seal), commuting. 14K mileage done despite 3 months MCO.


Fortunately i paid peanuts for it, so its less painful. Paid 8500 for a 2nd hand unit with 3k on the clock.


The 600s will be easier to manage than the DOM due to the bigger bikes weight distribution. The Trident, SV, Z650, CBR650 all have better low speed maneuverability than the DOM, easier to instill confidence in a new rider . The DOM is ridiculously top heavy, especially with a full tank of gas.

I'm waiting for the Tiger Sport 660. Tried the Trident. Didn't like it. Too small and cramped and im only 5'6".. Good city bike, but useless for touring, impossible for 2-up.

this i agree...

maybe they wana make it more stable...
not so easily flikable..

As a Kawasaki fan, I am also sad that Modenas has taken over. Sigh. Its gonna be tough moving forward.

And if this is how Modenas builds bikes, I can only imagine what nonsense they are gonna churn out in the future.

Bad move Kawasaki. You had a large share of the big bike cake and now all gone.

When in doubt, outsource everything.

I've dropped (and crashed) my previous bikes before, but this is the only one I owned that friggin pours petrol when down on its side. Like, petrol was literally streaming out of it.

Maybe I should hv taken a video of it, but I was too preoccupied stopping it from catching fire.

Well, Suzuki is back......

Big bikes over 600 still under Kawasaki.

Glad to hear this

Yeah, the bigger CC bikes are still from Jaoan, but there is no official partner here( or yet ).

Spare parts are gonna be harder to source.

Suzuki will be the big winner here.

NS200 2017 mileage below 6k, seller offer price is rm6000. What is the lowest price I should negotiate?

Hi bro, if you are looking for used NS200 with all 3 boxes can PM me.

Letting go mine. 2018 with 28k mileage.
New tyre.

Great i found the facebook link to your workshop.

Who do we look for when we get there?

Is there a supervisor we can look for there?

This post has been edited by techjack: Jan 23 2022, 04:33 PM

Hello

Do you sell the O-ring to put under our rubber flange on the lid seal?

Prevention is better than cure.

Many thanks

Boss, I bought the Dom4 sometime ago in 2018 .. recently hit 20k mileage and it feels awkward ..
I had the major service done, change stock tyre and wheel balancing ..

Vibration is kaw2 now .. what should i check?

Just look for me, i'm Jay, its my contact on the FB

Am looking for one as well, the one we currently use is slightly too thick, not ideal.

For vibration issues on any bike, i think you need to first identify if its related to your engine or non-engine related. Does vibration worsen with revs? or with speed?

Lazy want to post in MPOC cause retarded toxic redneck culture.

Should I be concerned if my bike suddenly reduces it's revs and the engine check light comes on momentarily before disappearing after a few seconds riding on clutch?

This happened when I was cruising at around 80 to 90 near DC Mall at Pusat Bandar Damansara.

Engine oil still a bit yellowish despite doing 9300kma (last service at 4.6k) and not complete grey or black, coolant levels seem fine to me too.

RS200
NS200
NS200 ABS
Dominar 400
Dominar 400UG

Between all of this, which one you will recommend most?

hey bro, good to see u here heh


hmmm... lets see, let me try put it as simple as i can

RS vs NS, its just matter of your personal preference, while some might argue RS looks sportier, provides sportier riding posture and is slightly faster, its basically just an NS with different coverset and handle. Both are almost identical albeit minor difference in engine and EMS. So, in these 2, its just your preference, for under 10k, both provides great value and more fun than their counterparts that is 30-50% more expensive. Maintenance is generally not too expensive either, engine are both based on KTM 200 series platform and both has ABS options.

As for Dominar and Dominar UG, due to UG emergence, the previous model will definitely suffer from severe price dips. But its also good news for new owners, i think you can see D4 used going for around 7-8k ish.

The Dominar UG is just that much better, DOHC vs SOCH which indirectly leads to additional 5 horsepower, torque is as much fun as you'd expect from a large single cylinder, comes as standard with gear indicator, pretty techy looking dual HUD/speed panel, USD forks(derived from KTM), Nitrox rear shocks, dual channel abs and brakes by Bybre. At 15k brand new, its a steal.


That said, if you're looking for a simple decent daily ride, all above is pretty nice choice, but if you have B full and willing to allocate slightly more budget into D4 maintenance, its also a good choice.

Thanks for the info. For now I'm more incline toward the RS or NS. Still in considering mode to change my bike.

This post has been edited by Noryume: Jan 28 2022, 08:10 AM

I am NS200 owner, my bike some times will have engine oil signal turns on riding for less than 1km, but checked a lot of times that the engine oil is always within the range, do you have any idea what happen?

could be one or more of the following

1. Oil sensor switch malfunctioning
2. Too much/too little engine oil
3. Wrong viscosity/rating oil
4. Blockage in oil delivery/nozzle paths

ok, i will ride to nearest service center for check up
thanks very much

This post has been edited by zWinceZz: Feb 4 2022, 12:18 PM

another problem is that, the engine will goes off when i pull all the clutch in front of traffic light, even switch to 1st gear already
have to keep rev a bit when stopping to keep the engine from dying, do you have the same problem ?

This is not a common problem, the cause can be due to your clutch having too much freeplay. This can be adjusted yourself, do try searching in youtube "adjusting clutch lever freeplay".

If this doesnt fix your issue, your engine might have issue idling.

Oh, I thought this is quite common as I saw some of them asking in the fb group too

hi Jay, if i go your shop, can help check my d400 why getting knocking sound during cold start?
also, can you check if my bike need VC?
currently odo clocked at 60k, all this while all ok.
not sure related or not, but issue start after i go change to 3rd party sprocket @ 15-42 (both front and rear is now RK brand).
the reason why i highlight sprocket is because i read at AMS fb , mention that 3rd party front sprocket screw might hit the engine.
also despite done change fresh engine oil, but the engine still feel not smooth not sure why.

also if your side can help on my front fork leaking issue that will be great. done change fork seal 3 times at SC , but leaking still happen.

This post has been edited by sammm33: Feb 8 2022, 03:29 AM

dem thats really bad. my d400 issue is nothing if compare to what you been through.
and yes, i totally disagree the part where they mention dust partial or stone stuck in it and cause leaking , that is pure BS.

i get the same explain from the shop i purchase my d400, which i do not buy at it all since changing the fork seal did nothing to solve the issue.
they even told me "thats excessive fork oil when install at factory, after done leak out it will be fine" kind of BS, which i tell my self i will never go to this shop for anything ever again.

and yes, i get the same fanboy defensive explain when i highlight this issue via FB or dominar whatsapp group. they just swipe it aside like its something minor.
or "you pay peanut you get peanut, why you even complain" kind of reply.
as if i should not highlight issue for something i purchase just because it was cheap , ok fine.

This post has been edited by sammm33: Feb 8 2022, 05:57 PM

Sure do drop by.

Screw isnt really "hitting" the engine per-se, more like, its too long and grinded out a portion of the seal over time. However, changing sprockets should not require changing screws, i think most of us(workshops), simply swap the sprocket and retained the old screws. Furthermore, sprocket kits usually doesnt comes with screws and you need to reuse your old one.

As for knocking sound during cold start, could be 1 or few of many factors.

As for the fork leak, yea we encourage customers to swap out the standard(bajaj) seals with Ari seals. And while we at it, replace the standard(bajaj) oil with better aftermarket ones(motul/ipones/belrays) to a weight of your preference.

Hi Jay, can you PM me your shop details. Can't seem to find you on FB.

My D400 is due for the 20K service, put on 15k in the last 10 months

. How much do you charge for the 20K VC job?

Thanks

Edit. Sorry, found it. Are you guys open on Saturdays? Might just drop by since quite near to me.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Feb 9 2022, 08:56 PM

We're open everyday generally. 20k should be major service, but in D4 case, VC will only be required if the tappet sound is apparent on a stethoscope inspection. Apart from that, for 20k, generally,

1. air filter
2. fuel filter
3. spark plugs
4. Coolant
5. brake systems
6. other general health checks

Hello guys, I'm in the process of getting my B full license. Came across the NS200 being a cheap and good beginner friendly bike with ABS. Do you guys have any tips or suggestions? I have no riding experience and this will be my first bike.

Would buying a second hand bike be a better option as I may fall ?

Thank you

Edit: would like to add that my budget is below 10k

This post has been edited by scorpio94: Feb 13 2022, 12:11 PM

if sked moto kari,
can search used cfmoto nk250 abs rm7-8k oni..
taobao many stuff can find..:

Not familiar with the terms, what do you mean Kari ya ?
Also how is the nk250 compared to the NS200 since it's around the same price range?

kari mean Indian bike
NK250 from CF motor, it is quite famous in China, both NK250 and NK400.

Theres quite abit of choice for bikes below 10k in similar classes, hence i wont go into specific comparison. But in general, the NS advantage over most most bikes on the segment(or yours) would be

1. Comparatively cheap, you can get a used NS ABS for 5k or so. A brand new one cost around 9-10k. Given that its a rather straight forward bike without complicated systems, tested and proven, id say its a safe bet to get a used one. Especially so that its your first one, save the extra cash for safety upgrades(tyres/crashbars) and other minor useful accessories or even attend a proper safety riding course instead of ones in driving school.

2. Fall safe, as in, its not expensive to drop nor would damage many parts(minor drops). The bike is pretty simple, even without a crashbar, a simple fall might only cost you a handlebar, side mirrors and a signal lamp replacement.

3. Lightweight, not as light if you were to compare to 150ccs, but for the power vs displacement vs weight, the NS sports a pretty decent ratio. Its handles pretty well for a beginner to learn too.

4. Cheap spareparts and widely available, you can source spareparts directly from modenas or from us, service plus, 3rd party shopee reseller etc. I would go as far as to say, being an "odd brand" in malaysia, its unlikely for you to have issue finding for parts, and not to mention they cost pretty damm cheap in comparison to other smaller niche companies(KTNS/ZONTES/NAZA/CFMOTO).


These, are my personal opinion.

Thats a pretty valid point. Will check out used ns200. Any recommendations on what I should look out for used units ?
Or would bringing the bike to the foreman be the best solution?