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 Modenas/Bajaj Pulsar RS/NS200 and Dominar 400, I'm an Owner and a Foreman, AMA here!!

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Jason
post Nov 8 2022, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Mar 5 2022, 10:51 PM)
While nobody's expecting to get Honda quality at Bajaj prices, that's no excuse to put up with a grossly DEFECTIVE product.

I was willing to close both eyes if the defects were cosmetic or minor, like the tank badge that peeled off the day I rode it out of the showroom. But stuff like faulty ABS units etc that render the bike unrideable are just not acceptable by any standard.

"Ko nak menyalak buatpa, bodo. Claim je la pastu tolong diam," that was the reply I got from these guys. So yeah OK... then what happens when the warranty runs out & you can no longer claim? By their own logic, you just get rid of it lah... and that's what I did.

Glad to have left all that behind me. What a nightmare.
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How's your turd doing?
1) is yours a lemon due to no QC from Modenas?
2) or it's an inherent flaw with the bike itself - where it is just a matter of time to failure due to bad design? e.g. Volkswagen 7 speed dry clutch

I am thinking of picking one up to drop it around while practicing.

EDIT: and it seems Modenas themselves are not bothered to solve your issues, cannot send to claim warranty at authorized workshops like Vi Merkz here?

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post Nov 8 2022, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Vi Merkz @ Nov 8 2022, 03:43 AM)
hello, i think he most probably sold his turn  laugh.gif

Let me try answer,

1. Yes its most likely a lemon draw from Modenas
2. The engine is basically almost identical to the KTM390, especially so for the newer D4 UG. Same goes to the fork, brake system, injection system as well as ECU.

While i wouldnt say the bike is flaw free, it certainly still is the best value out there, and so far, there isn't any "unsolvable" issues, at least not that i've encountered.

As for ZZR's turn, yep I did solve the issue(hopefully, as he hasnt got back to me since then), and yes warranty is definitely honored. Just that, different workshops has different method of solving the issue, that includes SC itself and other independent service plus like ours.
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2. Is the fork for the D4 UG same as KTM? KTM runs WP forks right. Seems like leaking fork is common, does your fix solve it for good?

But I guess if Modenas HQ doesn't give a flying fish about its customers, and you as an authorised SC can claim warranty work for the customer, there's less to worry about. Since authorised SC is charging Modenas for warranty work anyway, it is business for them.

QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 8 2022, 09:47 AM)
You will get the occasional lemon once in a while. All goes down to how the dealership or authorized centre solves it for you.

As for my dominar, its not the best built bike out there. Build quality from Modena's is a bit meh.... But for the price, it's impossible to find a better deal. You get what you pay for.
I put 33k on mine in 18months. Ridden hard almost daily bouncing off the rev limiter. Taken off road frequently.

Random stalling issues still persist, front fork seal started weeping at 10k, but surprisingly have not gotten worst given the off road abuse it gets. Had a few wiring issues which I sorted out myself. Started using a bit of water lately. But parts are cheap and easy to find. Maintenance is cheap. Filter is 10bux, takes 1.7L of oil.

Value can't be beat for a new beginner bike. Your other options would be a used z250 or a very old ER6 for that price. If you can find a used low mileage one like I did, all the better. Mine had 3k by the previous owner and I paid 8500 for the bike for an almost new bike. Literally kapchai money.

It's big and heavy for a 400. More stable than the duke390 on the highway....less affected by wake of big trucks. Handling wise, the budget suspension is pretty well ...budget...but gets the job done. Just don't expect superbike stability in fast corners. The rear will wallow a bit. Front forks is too soft. Comfortable but not very secure feeling at speed...brake dive is bad. City handling is sluggish due to it being top heavy and having a long wheelbase (it's longer than the cb650r and the trident.).. but you do get used to it. It's a big bike, it won't cilok like a kapchai for sure.

Engine is very buzzy past 7000rpm. Gearing is set low, will need to sprocket down 3 teeth for highway cruising (I'm running a 42 from the factory 45). Will do 130 all day and max out at 165 after that.
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Nothing to argue about the value, where to find brand new 400cc bike for RM14k, all thanks to Modenas *cough* protectionism *cough*.

Brake dive - can use heavier oil in the forks to reduce this? Nice to see you really whacking your bike.

I am thinking given its price point and size, it would be the best training wheels to do parking lot drills, of course first choice is the Duke 390 but that's double the price. As long as it is not a nightmare with maintenance. What year is yours?
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post Apr 17 2023, 06:34 PM

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I really like the Duke 390v2 on paper.. the way it looks and the package.

But man, the stories you guys share on the Dominar UG is terrifying.

I remembered when the Duke 390 first launched there was hype. Then I assume when the reliability issues came reared its head the hype died down.

The v2 didn’t get much fanfare, even less so you can get its cousin the D400 for almost a third of the price.

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post Apr 18 2023, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Apr 18 2023, 09:37 AM)
Lol. Ride it back to back and you'd see why the Duke costs more than the dominar. They are not the same thing, especially the Dom v1. The UG gets a little closer but still way different.

The feel, ride, fueling , power delivery and handling of the duke is much more entertaining. Responses are much quicker and is more tossable owning to its much more aggressive geometry.

The duke is the athletic cousin to the couch potato dominar.

Taken in isolation, the dominar is a decent bike, handles quite well for what it is, cheap..but a Duke 390 (or z250, mt25...etc) it is not.
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That’s the thing
Paying D400 UG price for a sack of potatoes also damn upset

Imagine paying Duke 390 price and get a sack of athletic potatoes. 😂

Any owners feedback on it?

 

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