Some people do not have antibody response to the vaccine.





Is this why KJ's real bosses told KJ to tell Malaysians not to get any antibody testing after their vaccines?



https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021...-antibody-tests

means vaccine is totally scam?

These people also no reaction to covid.
So no vaccine needed

Probably 1 or 2 kena per million
This people also kena covid nothing happen and no reaction
So these 1 or 2 people no need vaccine .

not sure why this is so controversial (but its project Veritas so I guess they want to sensationalize news like this just like CNN for their narratives). Sinopharm had 2-7% of patients who did not seroconvert at all. Based on epidemiological data from Sri Lanka. Not everyone seroconverts for vaccines.


This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Oct 17 2021, 01:50 PM

more like a few %. you are forgetting they are lots of immunosuppressed and defective immune system people in the population, these people wont show any antibody levels even after two dose.

took 2 jab just to get freedom. covid or not dont care.

Just to follow new world order.... Lol

Yup. Before jab i already survive 1st wave covid & delta. But still need to take the vax. Most of them expect all people the same as them. Today they berak i also need to berak. Later if i got child i also give same name & dress like them. From now call me KJ.

U must believe KJ more than doc & scientist. Its not scam. now i got long hair & beard. No trim. People complaint but i said i follow KJ. Only wait my hair & beard get little grey like him. Vax ftw..

you can get private hair cut appts. no need so strict follow law.

how not to believe mat cemerlang n ex some minster rm100mil fund gone?
he is the inkambing magician

The controversial part is the snake said no need to test to see if you seroconvert or not?

The important thing to the snake is not u immune or not? The important thing to the snake is u cucuk.

Learned to cut my own hair.

Looks like I'll be wearing this hairstyle for a long time.

U say no need so strict but your fascist leader said must be more strict. Torture until every single one sign the consent form.



This post has been edited by JohnL77: Oct 17 2021, 02:31 PM

I think the worst is immunosuppressed where they don't get immunity and still die from Covid.

Unfortunately this is what we called survival the fittest

https://www.techarp.com/science/project-ver...ick-karl/?amp=1

need to dissect these people to see what makes them super strong

If it's for health reasons, the most logical thing is to get tested for the antibodies so we know the vaccines are doing its job and we know we're "protected".

The way KJ is governing up to a point where the most important thing in the world is to get the Covid19 jab but ignore all other concerns and criticisms is a huge red flag.
What is his real agenda for pushing the Covid19 vaccine from a certain angle?

Not scam but just end results is not everyone hoped for after a billion of jabs going around

The real agenda is to usurp more power so incoming GE and to lined his pockets as well

lol kickback?

War chest for incoming elections otherwise why are parents so stupid paying rm500 for jabs for their kids

They will not kill u if not they can't milk anymore.

Not a scam la.

Just haven't reached finish line.

U want to be milked? #nohomo

Tell me u eat no medicine at all. Is just business after all to make money.

No vaccine has ever been 100% at generating immune response. If its actually 99%, the virus is going to struggle to find the remaining 1%

Please state your source of your claims

Which is why the end results not what’s hoped for

Especially when it is govt funded it is the best business to make more money

How about polio’s or malaria vaccine as it has been proven to be 100% effective to eliminate?

Anything with 90% and above will be consider the gold standard for vaccines will be on course of elimination on your body

ScamVxx dont work la lab rats

https://youtube.com/watch?v=97CfZ0tixqM

He sked india make generic one then GG. Also farming this farker tried to push for GMO .

While he does lot of philantrophy he is a bird.

lucky we got AZ
and there is a reason why he is so darn rich

Jus wait the anti vax group will piled on the conspiracy theory that the virus was created by Bill Gates

He doesn't explain anything at all. First he said nothing to do with intellectual property at 1:20.

Then at 1:40 he says there are issue with intellectual property.

So what the fuck? Bill's brain blue screen?

It seems that Fauci is the one needed to do lots of explaination after its clear according to NIH that he signed for GOF research.

This post has been edited by fist_Aileron: Oct 25 2021, 11:06 AM

patents is the key to being rich

Not the patent but the underlying technology’s licensing is the key to being passively income for life

Bill is the real fucking Richmond Valentine and we should all be fucking scared for our lives and our children's lives..

if vaccine maker IP kena stole... cannot make money

next time pandemic hit.. who want to create vacccine?

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...vaksin-sinovac/

Sudah u turn already

Now say sinovac x bagi enough documentations

Lol. Later /k will bash u if not follow KJ

Just as i said long time ago.

Under KJ smart to play with clinical trial after a 14 yr old death 🤦‍♀️

Haha Dajjal want to reduce pipul enter into Stage 4 or 5 of kobis. Very noble.

Tbh Seenovac less effect on kids heart, ok justification to choose it. However I think some parents rather give one Faizah to kid then go on let it be. Choice should be given.

Source?

parent sign form for tanggung sendiri not bising , you ppl bising for what

why no pfizer? Sino gagal

No need Pfizer studies as once FDA approved the same data being used to get approval while Simon no data yet because CCP only just started to give to 3 to 11 years old

feel suka minum spritzer.

I think you should make that sort of title in a serious discussion section.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/595865

Wikipedia Dajjal texts edited out already.

Hahaha.. this is your reference? Some shitpost on Wikipedia.. looks like shit from those konspirasi akhir zaman blogs. I'm not surprised if you flunk you university assignments. So your saying KJ is Dajjal? But wait, he is the Dajjal besar also known as The AntiChrist, or the Dajjal kecil?
Wa ketawa tengok lu.

Kj suruh panggil dia Dajjal.

Wow baiknya dajjal, bagus dajjal ni bersifat progressive.

Antivax on the other hand...

Whether or not he ask, you think he is the big one or small one? Which you never reply yet.
So if KJ ask you eat shit, you go eat shit all you can eat like buffet la? 🤔😂

This post has been edited by lowyat.my: Oct 27 2021, 10:37 PM

Ayuh repot lagi..come, i repot my own post also.

This post has been edited by lowyat.my: Oct 28 2021, 03:08 AM

Protect ourselves with SOP all the time when we step out of our house. Vaccine effectiveness figure/percentage is all shown by the vaccine manufacturer. Vaccine is only effectively reduce the death rate. But sooner or later, once the virus adapt to the vaccine then death rate will raise again. It keep mutate each day to adapt to the environment.

Is human natural characteristic, selfish and greed. Sharing the recipe and technique to work together to create more efficient vaccine would be way much better. Politicians and businessmen always have their own agenda. Is human natural characteristic.

Worldwide total lockdown for 2 months without any activities outside their home will have enough time to cut off the spread of this virus. Because of those less than 5% of the populations, now over 95% population suffering from the pandemic for nearly 2 years.

Isn't it suspicious that when vaccination started, the daily new Covid cases increases and the death due to Covid increases in many countries?

There are too many such false claims when the competition got heated up. Everyone is claiming they are the experts and some to be the original inventor or the creator. I learn it is good always to countercheck their claims before believing it. Trust only information from reliable sources and not from YouTubers which usually full of craps and false claims because anyone can be a YouTuber.

Enuf with the sarcasm...u antivax??

Coupled with reopening and new variant mutation again

That is why social media has to be shut down and reformatted again

Facebook is worse than youtube in spreading fake news

Don’t blame 5% please but blame China for not disclosing it is airborne in the 1st place during Oct 2019

He have stakes in the industry that’s why

dont be silly, what covid in oct 2019? covid was only identified in jan 2020 which were traced to first victim in dec 2019, then classed only as airborne by WHO in early 2020. easy for us to now point fingers but how do you prepare for something you dont know what it is in first place?

you want more irony? other countries had 3 months in advance to prepare for the possible spread when China was struggling but instead they chose to ridicule China instead of taking precautions. then see what happened next?

Also remember that back then every other "expert" on TV was saying that the virus would mutate to be harmless like a cold

the same kind of people that talks about climate change but are not willing to make technology cost cheap.

Look at China’s now and you can see why it silently spreading since Oct 2019 as you can see ppl were sick in the hospital just that didn’t disclose by CCP

And still you believe WHO when they themselves don’t have the actual even though after investigative studies

1st patient yet they still can’t trace patient zero you must be dreaming just like sars and mers when the backdelay by 3 months

Dajjal's logic:



https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...r-hisham-298290

"We can't use Ivermectin to treat Covid19 because not enough data"

but..

"we will vaccinate kids to test how safe it is because we don't have enough data"



Logic 404.

Dzulkifli Bin Abdul Razak (Prof. Tan Sri Dato') opinion:

Tan Sri ni anti vaksin ke? Kenapa bersuara bantah Dajjal nak vaksin kanak kanak Malaysia?

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/genera...s-jab-then-dies

Keywords - blood clots

It's never about mixing, but whether you're lottery-striking-unluckily to meet with blood clots after AZ shots.

Bout 15/mil chance for 1st jab and 2/mil for 2nd jab.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/12/blood-clots...rate-study.html

Even if you happen to get the blood clots, the fatality is under 20% still.

This post has been edited by msacras: Oct 29 2021, 05:32 AM

I thought young women shouldn't jab AZ. But then my area got few girls given AZ too.

You watched too many Holllywood movies and think its so easy to find patient zero or even which animals is the cause. SARS took 14 years to determine it was transferred to humans via civet cats and until today we do not know how ebola started.

A lot of people judge base on what is happening today instead of back in end 2019 or even early 2020. If anyone in 2019 asked countries to take precaution on a worldwide pandemic, he will probably be sent to Tanjung Rambutan.

As for China cases, you can choose to not believe that they are having really low cases but do you really think they can hide if thousands of people are sick or dying?

What he is saying is sharing the formula with poorer countries is not feasible not because intellectual property reasons but more due to quality control reasons. Not every country has the capabilities to manufacture according to standards. Remember last year, the AZ manufactured by India was not recognised some European countries? According to him, India was able to manufactured due to his foundation grants in the first place. Quality will affect people's confidence on vaccines. Also, the video is cut to make him look like greedy businessman but his explaination was ignored and misunderstood.

You are still day dreaming as you can see now how infected China with its zero covid cases

The world already lost its chance when WHO was denied to go into China to investigate and gather more scientific data on how it started which is now is the peak of it

No such thing as thanks useless DG and its guidance on AZ

Thank to useless DG when there is data for Ivermectin effectiveness

She had been inoculated first with the Sinovac vaccine, and then given AstraZeneca as her second dose.

it's well documented that AZ vaccine having a risk of blood clot

RIP sister

AZ master clot.....

Our teens jab what vaccine?

How infected is China today? You think with technology today, China can hide their figures of people dying and hospitalised?

Who was not denied to go into China. Their people was already in China way back in May or June 2019. Official wrap up of their investigation only starts in November 2019 and the report came out in Jan 2020. This type of investigation takes time and not like an episode of CSI where cases are solved within a day. Collecting information has started way in early 2019 and by November 2019, they only starts looking at everything. You are clearly reading from western press. The January report by Who states that it did not totally discount lab leak, the likelyhood is very low. The report said the likelyhood that it originated from bats in Southern China or its surrounding areas are more likely.

What China refused is second investigation solely looking into lab leak theory because of pressure from Americans. Heck, Americans could not find anything to accuse China despite Biden ordering their intelligence agencies to investigate.

Earlier is Pfizer...
After heavy lobbying...
Now also include Sinovac 😬

This post has been edited by nexona88: Oct 29 2021, 09:16 AM

I think I started getting minor headache at a specific part after AZ, could it be minor blood clot?
I'm still getting it weeks after full vaccination....... am I going to die of blood clot?

If its obvious and not placebo effect, go do full body checkup. Wan to risk your life for a few hundred ringgit ka?

Don’t know about AZ, but for Pfizer according to their information given, it will take weeks for spike protein process.
Maybe 3 to 4 weeks max period for the vaccine to do it’s thing.

like i said, dont be silly. if you asked a doc to diagnose you for some disease that havent exist prior to this how would the doc know? is it his fault? mind you the symptoms are basically same as flu and pneumonia which made it even tougher for the doc to pinpoint whats at fault.

if dont believe WHO then who (lol pun) to believe then? youre falling exactly into the same trap the rest of the countries who hand wave the warnings away. now look at their # of cases and how they tackle covid, hardly inspiring

ironic you talk about sars and mers when;

1. SARS 1st case tracked to 16 Nov 2002 but the global alert from WHO only came in Mar 2003.
2. MERS 1st case tracked to 6 June 2012 but the global alert from WHO only came in Nov 2012.

cross jab?

i tot boxing or muai thai

According to Dajjal, 5-12 yrs given Pfizer and they will experiment on 3-11 yrs kids with Sinovac. 12-17 Pfizer.



https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...fizer-kj-327881



https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/590438



https://www.utusan.com.my/covid-19/2021/09/...-vaksin-pfizer/

This post has been edited by Fanvil1534: Oct 29 2021, 10:23 AM

If you got prolonged symptoms then go see a doc la. Don't post here and speculate.

My friend's brother is a collector. He got his 2 dose Sinovac while working in Cambodia. Came back and got 2 dose of pfizer in KL, now back to London and got his 2 dose of AZ.

He is still alive.

In medical, everything is percentage..

I know a family all kena covid but all cat1 cat2..

so should we just ignore covid totally?

a 0.01% different might involve millions of lives worldwide.