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 Zidoo Z9X RTD1619DR chipsets, DVLL capable

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post Oct 25 2021, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Oct 25 2021, 04:51 PM)
Yup..... but I like the poster wall... hahaa..... so I tend to use poster wall to start the movie. Unless the menu can't work, then i try play normal using poster wall as well. Initially when i got the device, i just use the folder to watch the movie, after play around with poster wall kind of like it.... at least the matching is easier... just sometime will map to wrong one.

The VS10 engine is converting even HDR10 to DV as well, if it is native DV movie content it will shown DV icon on top left, else it will shown VS10 with DV.

I didnt considered Z10pro instead, i was looking at Z9X, in fact i almost wan place order for tat, until i visit the shop n talk to the sales guy, then just pay extra for better player...... pray hard it can last like my DUNE player....

Now thinking whether to get some physical disc with 4k UHD player.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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ok, thanks for comments.

4k UHD/HDR10/HDR10+/DV disc player - this one, in the long run, will cost u 1.5 arm and 1.75 leg!

i paid enuf dues for my thousands of music CDs, hundreds of 1080p Bluray DVD.

Sill paying my dues for LP/vinyls... biggrin.gif

better not touch these 4k discs yet... laugh.gif
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Oct 25 2021, 05:07 PM)
haha.... yup I know....i also got quite a number of 1080P bluray bought from Amazon last time. and I got 2 full HD bluray player still running fine.

maybe shall wait for next year AV show..... see got cheap player or not....  brows.gif  brows.gif

this year I think spent enough for AV devices  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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these things never end, only money in your pocket ends. laugh.gif

audio:
phonograph->vinyl->cassette->cd->mp3->flac/sacd; dd/dts->ddtruehd/dtshdma->dtsx/ddatmos->??

video:
betamax->vhs->vcd->ld->dvd->bd->bd4k...->bd8k->... bd16k->

what next... holograms+dolby ultimate?! drool.gif
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post Oct 26 2021, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(kkthen @ Oct 26 2021, 10:46 AM)
I got the chance to see the different  DV vs Hdr 10+ in My friend AV system.  He use OPPO 205 BD player & Panasonic  calibrated oled TV ,  Procella 5.4.2 atmos sound system.  We are use the Alita: Battle Angel original UHD Bluray Disc .  We all prefer Hdr 10 +  than DV,    Hdr 10+ picture  more cinematic .  We also notice even using same atmos english sound track.  When we are switch to Hdr 10+ ,  Sound track become more dynamic than  DV.  May be DV need BD player more processing power  so affect player sound output performance.
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this is interesting and curious.

why hdr10+ and DV give diff atmos when it is the same audio track?? hmm.gif
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post Oct 26 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 26 2021, 09:55 AM)
like cyclone I also malas hahah

seriously I have not touch the z9x since then
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actually why did u change from z9s to z9x?

QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Oct 26 2021, 10:29 AM)
haha.... I only started bluray 1080P era onward.....  bangwall.gif 

after that nvr ending till now.....so far now denon is my 3rd amp, next amp maybe wanna try yamaha after 5 yrs later biggrin.gif

agreed, tech thing nvr ending... just like phone also......nowadays 1 premium phone can get some power amp already  doh.gif
haha..... just try the setting u like n feel comfortable then enjoy the show!!! rclxms.gif

my eyes getting old liao.... already got lou fa..... sigh... cant differentiate much  cry.gif
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i stinge on phone purchase, never buy premium price one... no apple, no orange... xiaomi ok. laugh.gif

so many things to buy, change, upgrade... my list still long... desktop, mesh router, HDDs, TV, media player, phono cartridge... sweat.gif

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post Oct 26 2021, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 26 2021, 03:17 PM)
because jjooott bought the z9s for me

and also wanna know the new one apa great
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i didn't read the details... what's the diff z9s vs z9x - what is better?

next, try uhd2000, uhd3000 la..! laugh.gif
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post Oct 26 2021, 07:59 PM

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Haiz... 4k 55 also cab give good picture. Play better sources!!
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post Oct 27 2021, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 27 2021, 10:05 AM)
there seems to be a few new zidoo ler...
saw some on youtube
one for audio one, like the Neo and another dunno apa, macam android box or wat

actually hor the z9x should be similar with UHD3000 liao bah... except the space for HDD

I need to watch dune on it right? thinking to just watch it on my q10 pro at my house

if go watch zidoo need to go my parents house
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if u watch with Q10pro, be sure u do not play those with DV, it will not play or get washed out colors; HDR10 video is good.

DV, u gotta use Z9x.
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post Oct 27 2021, 10:47 AM

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1080p when upscaled by player or avr or TV is close to 4k. But HDR Vs SDR, diff is noticeable in terms of color depth, brightness.

Some videos r in 1080p HDR, they r quite good.

Audio is a diff animal. Atmos rules supreme.
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post Oct 28 2021, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Jjoottt @ Oct 27 2021, 03:03 PM)
Not all movies have 4K sources. New ones from Hollywood  yes, Netflix also but I also watch Hongkie movies a lot. So I don’t want to discriminate 😂
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a lot of old popular english ones remastered to 4k.

chinese ones incl big hits, very rare.
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post Nov 17 2021, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 17 2021, 09:22 AM)
ok something weird happen when I was trying to watch Shang chi on this new zidoo

tested last week with a surcode file, no audio from truehd
try switching to 5.1, crackling sound

delete file and tried with new file with 3 audio, truehd, dtshdma and 5.1
same issue pertain, both HD sound not working

check audio settings, tried other files, no issue
then I turn off the DV function, no conversion of video, as is

then everything back to normal

is this because of my chapalang hdmi cable or wat? bandwidth too high? stuck ?
connection is zidoo > soundbar > teebee
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if the file is a DV one, possible it is acting up with yr zidoo.

try same title but HDR10 files, not DV, see if problem persist.

also try same HDR10 (not DV) with Q10pro, see what results.

my eqpt cannot handle DV, so i dun use them.

but for HDR10, all files with DD+, TrueHD, atmos, DTSX work well on Q10pro and Q30 - no complaints.
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post Nov 17 2021, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 17 2021, 09:51 AM)
just check, 10 bit sdr file

don't think I have any DV files, but this thing can convert to DV if I choose to

1st time I encounter such issues, so not hdmi cable problem?
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I hv not come across such issues with hdmi cable.

More likely the file was not well made, happens all the time.

Or something not right with player codec/firmware.

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 17 2021, 11:23 AM)
that means zidoo too weak?
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If the player codec and firmware been tested well, in market for some time, unlikely the problem.

File problem more likely.
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post Nov 17 2021, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 17 2021, 04:10 PM)
I have tried 2 diff files, both has such issues if I play with DV engine
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u had mentioned:

just check, 10 bit sdr file
then I turn off the DV function, no conversion of video, as is


think it just mean the the module to convert from non-DV to DV isn't working well.

probably more so if u try SDR->DV which is like HDR12.

can try HDR10->DV, see it it works better.

i wud think it's asking too much to try to get DV with SDR videos... like upscaling 720p to 2160p, can't be good.
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post Dec 7 2021, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 30 2021, 09:28 AM)
I think got a lot of complains on Shang chi audio

only 2.1 sounds ok I think hahaha
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try dune bdmv 4k atmos.

if not happy, sure yr ears need deep cleaning. laugh.gif

QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Nov 30 2021, 12:18 PM)

wanna check with u... yr zidoo z1000pro... what were the considerations when comparing against z10pro?

pretty similar, right?

year end, new year... considering getting something new... jolted by the new dune hd real vision 4k:
https://h-m-entertainment.com/dune-hd-real-vision-4k-review

against a more mature z9x, this dune is priced higher and perhaps performance half a notch lower due to it being so late in the game.

comments, anyone? biggrin.gif

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post Dec 8 2021, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Dec 8 2021, 12:12 AM)
hmm... in fact i didnt really compare with Z10Pro, but with Z9X, I'm more towards the Z1000 pro due to the chassis design is similar to my previous DUNE HD Base 3.0 media player.
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i m of the opposite - need a smaller base box to fit into the cabinet, hence z10pro more suitable.

QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 8 2021, 09:33 AM)
okok I go try see whether my telinga Rosak or not

I personally think the z9x or z1000 pro considerations would be base on your usage, I'm not too sure the image or audio would be better

as for me because I purely stream from NAS and I can't afford the z1000 pro, hence I go for the cheapskate z9x
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the specs point to almost the same except for the physical look.

if i can, wud prefer a box that can house a sata drive as it will be neater to fit one inside.

z9x is probably better value.. undecided...


btw, what about the firmware of zidoo - do updates get done OTA or manual?

may be problem if i buy one with old firmware...?
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post Dec 8 2021, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 8 2021, 09:53 AM)
but but hor... recently I try the z9x, barang kali few times jump out to the main page, macam HT app or the player not stable

Z9s no issue though
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errr... implying it is still not that stable yet.

the new dune will probably be worse, need time to smooth things out..?
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post Dec 8 2021, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 8 2021, 10:14 AM)
just stick to the zidoo shifu, for now

we all been using all these boxes for years

we all know how important the updates and support is, seems zidoo doing quite an ok job if u not nit picking

the audio box I bought the other day, damn... the software and wat not is really bad  bangwall.gif
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ya, agree...
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post Dec 8 2021, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Dec 8 2021, 11:47 AM)
I like this dune player.... haha.....

https://www.dune-hd.com/products/dune-hd-max-vision-4k
haha.. .agreed stick with zidoo for now..

I think 1 yr there is few release of firmware with Zidoo....
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ya, the big bro very nice... can put 2xsata inside.

price also nice. laugh.gif

https://shopee.com.my/(After-Cashback-RM-38...a4-8d5ed51850d1
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post Dec 8 2021, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Dec 8 2021, 11:58 AM)
The components seem better than Z1000pro, given that you have XRL and RAM is 4GB. Dune website selling @ US699..... but sold out already... doh.gif  doh.gif

Wondering if ordered directly from their website, how much the landed cost and whether need SIRIM certification or not. hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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think risky for high value equipment.... tax, SIRIM, warranty issues...

simple hardware like vinyls, CDS, DVDs are ok.
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post Dec 8 2021, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Dec 8 2021, 12:07 PM)
Hmm... tax, sirim is 1 concern lo..... but warranty should be ok, their product is shipping out from HK.

in fact my dune no given issue for past 10 years.... just that after kena lightning strike, a bit siao siao, sometime start up navigate until certain movies, it will reboot itself.... bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif

So now my dune is kept in box liao... cry.gif

wait i strike lottery, then maybe can try dune player...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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this one lagi best! brows.gif

Dune HD Ultra Vision 4K
US$1,499.00
https://www.dune-hd.com/products/dune-hd-ultra-vision-4k

(After Cashback RM 8089) Dune HD Ultra Vision 4K UHD Dolby Vision HDR10+ Media Player Dual OS Linux + Android 9.0 TV Box
RM8,988.00
https://shopee.com.my/(After-Cashback-RM-80...dc-b2d646eb7e21

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post Dec 8 2021, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Dec 8 2021, 02:32 PM)
hahaha too high end already...... laugh.gif  laugh.gif

that amount........ can buy a pair of Wharfedale Evo 4.4 speakers..... sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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quite right...

i will not spend more than RM1.5k on a media box, need big $ for new TV at the same time.

probably go Oled Sony XR-55A80J RM9K - OK for my small AV room.

speakers, AVR done.


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