yeah, i wud like to test them if available!

my SL and SR are now wall mounted.

i m wondering what diff it will make if i place a pair of atmos speakers SHL+SHR on top of the SL+SR.

can angle them to fire upwards to reflect down to target listener position, right?

my FL+FR tops aren't flat but curved - will be hard to put SHL+SHR on top of them.

this onkyo TX-RX840 is now sold out!

it was available at desa but no more, can't find any online seller stocking them.

i suppose can do with RZ740 - 185W is good enough, right?

i m dragging my feet becos my non-atmos AVR and non-HDR TV need to be changed together. if not, no point.

both are still going strong!

I hv 2 sets. The other one is ok, no need to change anything.

I hv onkyo n Denon, prefer onkyo... crispier, great for vinyls.

Home theater kaki's know v well... Speakers last v long, dun stinge, esp mains.

TV, media player, every 5-7 years.. AVR 8-12.

Turntable best... Last forever!❣️

are you using just 1 pair shown in the picture or there is another pair in front?

before fixing them at ceiling, did u try a "reflect from ceiling" position... any diff?

those speakers are normal bookshelfs, right?

ok, TQ for info, good to know.

i think i will also place just 1 pair above the surrounds.

but probably place them on top of the surrounds (hung at wall), angled to fire upwards to reflect down.

my AV room is even smaller, low ceiling... so, i'm hopeful upward firing may work.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 10 2021, 09:25 AM

among these 3.. which will u go for?

elac
https://shopee.com.my/ELAC-Debut-2.0-A4.2-A...630?position=18
https://www.elac.com/dolby-atmos-add-on-spe...rs/debut-2-a42/

wharfedale
https://shopee.com.my/Wharfedale-D300-3D-Do...263?position=11
https://www.wharfedale.co.uk/d300-3d/

onkyo
https://shopee.com.my/Onkyo-SKH-410-Dolby-A...752?position=13
https://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/speaker...-410/index.html

the onkyo is the cheapest but is single cone, lighter, smaller... but max power 100w?

correct, my main speakers top are curved, cannot place on top.

planning to place on top of the surround (side) which are wall mounted, thus no need to drill or hang separately.

becos these existing side speakers aren't big, i can't use big heavy ones that weight 2.5, 3kg each as atmos.

which leaves me with only the onkyo 1.2kg... but it has only single cone, yet rated 25-100W.

will it work well enough?

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 10 2021, 01:50 PM

u said several times u dun find much diff with all kinds of hi tech stuff.

ever did checkup with an audio-ear specialist?

highrise, susah.

gotta have a well insulated dedicated room if u really wanna blast, for hours!

DDtrueHD is excellent, better than dtshdma, imo.

i really enjoy my music video concerts in DDtrueHD.


i have settled for a new denon AVR+onkyo atmos speakers.

let's see how it all comes out this weekend.


next... OLED TV + Zidoo?!

$$$$...

any DUNE media box fans here? what u think of these:

https://www.dune-hd.com/products/dune-hd-ma...#specifications
https://www.dune-hd.com/products/dune-hd-magic-4k


diff is one is 4+32gb, the other 2+16gb.

HDR10+ but no DV?

also... dune traditionally uses realtek like zidoo, acryan... now changing to amlogic S905X3?

current chip shortage forcing them to use whatever they can get?

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 13 2021, 06:43 PM

no la... my AV room is tiny, not a stadium.... my speakers will blow la..!

was tossing between 4700 and 3700, decided to take the latter.

TV... will likely go Sony OLED, i like ATV... will wait if good promo comes, no rush.


one thing i suspect - the chip shortage now is causing havoc - some AVR manufacturers can't make enough.

apple cutting down production, not enough chips...

TrueHD comes out more wholesome to me, so i prefer it, at least for music videos.

Onkyo.... i have good experience with the 706, that's why i looked at the 740/840 first.

but i think there is a supply issue - there is no one selling these 2 online. there's one with a 740 but gone missing for a month!

i also have good experience with an entry level denon; i may yet be impressed with this 3700.

been reading the manual and watching some videos - all set to receive and hook it up!

most impt is how it will come out for phono/vinyls - i hope at least as good as the old onkyo.

the time will come - new player must go with new TV!

i hv 2 sets.

the entry level denon has no phono input.

after trying the new can i tell u whether i m satisfied!

half way thru setup... pair of atmos not arrived yet.

the base set up done, preliminary audyssey done, tested a bit.

first impressions:

++ latest features 8k, 8k/4k upscaling, more audio "combination" selections, firmware update OTA.
-- vinyl audio not as bright/crispy as the onkyo as expected, gets warm (not hot).
will comment further when complete.

the main reason for not going for the 4700 is it's a tad too deep for the shelf with the legs not resting properly.
the 3700 is a few cm less deep, fits just nice like the onkyo 706.

something came out bizzare - all my files played good with himedia Q10pro; no audio for HD audio files with himedia Q30.
there wasn't such an issue when Q30 worked with onkyo 706.
gave me a scare, thought hdcp2.3 causing this!
swapped the 2 himedia's - Q10pro now works good with 3700, Q30 works good with X520.

zidoo.. ya, may be exploring sooner than i thought!

vinyl - tried all the combinations, probably need some tweaking to improve it, will redo when atmos pair arrives.

PLII is only good for AAC2.0... i never use it for HD audio files.. these, gotta select/auto the highest one.

outcome for DD+, DDtrueHD, dtshdma, dtsx are ok, yet to try atmos - still, will recalibrate, tweak again.

yeah, those red+yellow buttons give variations... think meant to mimic movie vs pure music.

vinyls are all stereo 2.0.

take a concert originally pressed on vinyl, then digitized to flac or wav, u get just 2.0 audio.

take same concert remastered in dtshdma5.1/ddtruehd + 1080p video - excellent, this, i love!

playing vinyl set to multichannel mimics the 5.1 audio but is not always nice.

in the days before video killed the radio star and when things were simple, it was common to do a TT->preamp->power amp->speakers - u get great sounds.

now, i try to minimize the hardware... just plug in the phono input.

UHD3000... will take some time to evaluate, probably a toss up between a zidoo and a dune.
https://www.futeko.com/browse.php?cat=mp&sort=relevance

thanks for info, will be playing!

hah... that is true, but i dun hv any of these.

i think by default it is auto, will play the highest audio stream if multi tracks; or just direct, stereo if single track 2.0.

PLII will only kick in if u select it, right?

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 15 2021, 09:57 AM

Is the uhd2000 newer than uhd3000?

What main diff? I hv not started reading yet.

But i like the 2 sata bays, nice and neat.