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sapusapu
post Aug 25 2021, 01:48 PM

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I saw a quote on FB yesterday:

"You're worried that after you completed the 3-year university course, you'll already be 33 years old.
But if you don't take the course, you'll still be 33 years old after 3 years."

I believe education is the only way out of your current situation and I don't think now is too late for you to start. Mostly importantly is to identify what skill to learn and in industry you want to work for in the future.

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post Aug 25 2021, 01:50 PM

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And how do u manage to save RM150k while spending most of your time playing games? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Aug 25 2021, 03:25 PM

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29 years old. you are still young unlike older people difficult to get job.

just get a diploma to kick start your career in corporate world.

it's very easy to get an IT or business diploma.
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post Aug 25 2021, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(JasonObvious @ Aug 22 2021, 05:51 PM)
I am 29 years old, married with one child. Education only SPM level without relevant working experiences.

I am here trying to source for any light in my world of darkness although i know i screw up and don’t deserve pitiness.

I was feeling suicidal frequently and started to be physical abusive toward my wife. Wife isn’t supporting enough and isn’t reliable during my tough time, even destroyed much hope of survival for me. I might also end up a single father soon without career and education. Everyday i hope that i would’nt wake up from my sleep.

My family business had been shut down since a years ago and my dad is now a bankrupt. I spend my entire 20s playing games which made me now a introvert. I do have some basic experience in web coding, managing servers, server security as i own a private game server.

However, i do not have passion in coding. I think it is boring and i can’t do it longterm, server security may still interest me but i am not very sure on that and I do have interest in automation machine such as those in manufacture factory.

Luckily, i still have around 150k of savings without debt.

I understand that i can start simple business such as hawker stall, as i do not fear hard labour. But i am a lot more interested in having a stable paycheck monthly. I also can’t do sales as i can’t speak fluently.

The question is, if i were to go back to study, can anyone suggest some of the university courses that can help me to have high chance to secure a job, and have still have a bright career prospect at the age of 34?

Given the fact that i wasted my 20s and the current economy situation, should i just give up the idea of studying and venture into basic business like hawker instead, since i know for a fact that most if not all the employer will just toss the resume of a 34yr freshman without working experience into the trashcan.

Or can anyone suggest me some of alternative path that i can take at the age of 29? I am very lost here and would greatly appreciate if any of you could share some knowledge to help me.

Thank you very much in advance Mr/Mrs.
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Take my advise Seriously.

DO not go back to school.

Your problem now is not education.

2 :

- u feel drown. hopeless.
- attitude.


F&B is easy to start up. but every business require you 200% focus to start showing potential.
- if you dont want to work. then, start a small business urself. Keep yourself focus.


- Man, when too free. take time to create trouble


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post Aug 25 2021, 03:49 PM

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Have you heard of Axie Infinity? It is blockchain game with play to earn. Many player especially in Philipines play that thing and manage to earn more than their 8-5 income. Since your interest is in gaming the maybe it is worth to take a look.

And if you want to take the next step, develop a game if you have the expertise. Now the trend currently booming with NFT gaming.
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suikod3n
post Aug 25 2021, 04:20 PM

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Option 1.

SPM level from 10 + years ago, probably you need a foundation course 1 year followed by 3-4 years degree course. depend on universities, that can cost anywhere between 30-80k. able to secure PTPTN is another issue due to your age.

Let's say after you graduate 4-5 years later. with a starting salary of about 2.5-3k if you get job. Yearly bumps usually around 2-5%, so probably you will get 4k salary by age 40+ Does it meet your 'stable paycheck monthly' ?


Option 2.

Investments. With your 150k starting fund, with the right strategy you can easily earn 3-5% monthly. if put in 100k, 3%-5% already 3k-5k monthly lol.

However, with investments. There's a risk factor involved however seems feasible seeing your starting capital is quite good.


Option 3.

Start small business. groceries shop, hawker. whatever the choice you want.


Since you're introvert, don't want get in sales line, bit of IT nerd, low education qualification. Probably just want something that you can do from home full time and not face anyone. Option 2 thumbsup.gif

This post has been edited by suikod3n: Aug 25 2021, 04:21 PM
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post Aug 25 2021, 04:28 PM

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Based on your current background, ts don't waste time and money to get education, it won't make you feel or live better.

And I believe some cb ppl will pm ts and offer "opportunity" to him, be smart a bit and don't be water fish.

This post has been edited by heavensea: Aug 25 2021, 04:29 PM
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post Aug 25 2021, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Aug 25 2021, 03:31 PM)
Take my advise Seriously.

DO not go back to school.

Your problem now is not education.

2 :

- u feel drown. hopeless.
- attitude.
F&B is easy to start up. but every business require you 200% focus to start showing potential.
- if you dont want to work. then, start a small business urself. Keep yourself focus.
- Man, when too free. take time to create trouble
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Ts problem is attitude, you can see that he still demanding this and that during tough times. I'm not judging him or anyone, I'm not a a successful ppl (at least in the eyes of majority) but I know what's the pattern of ppl with attitude problem.

Attitude is a toxic habit, it leads ppl to make mistakes and the more mistakes someone made, their life will become shittier.

Maybe now now, but it'll be.

This post has been edited by heavensea: Aug 25 2021, 04:33 PM
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post Aug 25 2021, 04:50 PM

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Wada... 150k in hand u still pening ka..

Me age 48 being push to the brink in a f&b company which i work for 20 years. Due to my ciput 5k salary i kene drill like no end of world. End up i make a stupid mistake at that time somehow im not regretting by 24hr resign cannot tahan till i accident due to stress and burnout so before i accident again
And add another titanium plate in my body or worst meet my maker. I quit.

Now jual sambal geprek padubeb,
Karipap gorgon la..
Cornjuz la
Fund by ilestari money.

It give meaning and hope for me.
Business not easy but it keep me thinking and going.. also
Challenge myself.

150k u can do lot of thing if you start thinking fast instead of wondering why this happen.

Dont be like me 48year old nobody want to hire even you have 20years of experience and expertise.

Nowaday people dont buy on experience due to covid. Better hire young and fresh can pay cheap save company alot.

If have high pay staff or old high pay staff company will try reduce.

Stay strong remember you shit only stink syahdu to you..
But other people shit stink you cannot bare theirs suffering.
So keep positive mind start small business grow your CV..

Yours truly
Mrteddyfoodshop 2021
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post Aug 25 2021, 05:02 PM

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How can some one with 150K consider as failure?

If you mean failure as a husband then yes,since you hit your wife.
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post Aug 25 2021, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(viole @ Aug 23 2021, 09:32 AM)
If your passion is in automation, do not fear hard labor, and you have basic coding sense, you might want to explore the world of industrial control system.

You can code simple logical instruction to automate industrial process, and there is hard labor involved building and wiring the panel or the skid itself.

Simple course like wire man certification and guidance from senior is enough. You can use that cert to do house wiring as well.

Do not aim for stable paycheck. Aim for freelancing and commission.
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Hi Viole, can you elaborate more on the career in industrial control system?

I do have some basic programming skills. VBA and developed a simple website. Looking for a career switch now.

Is wireman certificate refering to Single Phase Wireman (PW1) from the Energy Commission?

Thanks
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QUOTE(Ken.B @ Aug 25 2021, 06:41 PM)
Hi Viole, can you elaborate more on the career in industrial control system?

I do have some basic programming skills. VBA and developed a simple website. Looking for a career switch now.

Is wireman certificate refering to Single Phase Wireman (PW1) from the Energy Commission?

Thanks
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Basic industrial control system wont involve heavily on vba and programming coding, but more on the logical part of it. If you can code, surely you are pt for this.

Read more on ladder diagram, pneumatic circuit, relay wiring, PLC, micro controller.

Yes that one. It is not mandatory, but nice to have since there will be a lot of wiring work involved. And extra skill is always welcome.
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post Aug 25 2021, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(JasonObvious @ Aug 22 2021, 05:51 PM)
Luckily, i still have around 150k of savings without debt..
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Don't really have any advice

But just want to say 150K savings no debt means you're doing A LOT better than 90% of people in malaysia. At age 29 some more... By a lot I mean seriously a lot better.
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post Aug 25 2021, 06:56 PM

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seems that your issue now is to get stable income monthly. getting a job might be hard given your limited skills (no offense) and pandemic happening now.

might i suggest you to get some trading skills. forex or stock markets. once you got the hang of it, you could try proprietary trading. google it up.
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TS my first advise is to don't ever use your 150k. That is your life line, your savoir and safety net if you ever fail or need it urgently.


Don't ever use that 150k to start business or anything. Okay.

Now, like others mentioned, I need sales is a good profession, but you need to choose a product you're ok to sell. But be careful, sales line cannot sustain long term. Internet already can automate and allow people to buy insurance, view houses online, and even car. The only sales I think is good is Property now, but is a very hard to sell. You maybe will close only 1 sales out of 100 people. Property is the most expensive purchase and people won't accept it easily ..

Besides sales, I can think of being a delivery guy. Grab, lalamove, AirAsia e-hailing, but this is not a long term solution. You still need something that is sustainable.

Sales is the best, but that is if you can talk and actually close sales and don't afraid of rejection. Knowing all three languages is good too. Malay, English, Mandarin/Cantonese.
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QUOTE(JasonObvious @ Aug 22 2021, 05:51 PM)
I am 29 years old, married with one child. Education only SPM level without relevant working experiences.

I am here trying to source for any light in my world of darkness although i know i screw up and don’t deserve pitiness.

I was feeling suicidal frequently and started to be physical abusive toward my wife. Wife isn’t supporting enough and isn’t reliable during my tough time, even destroyed much hope of survival for me. I might also end up a single father soon without career and education. Everyday i hope that i would’nt wake up from my sleep.

My family business had been shut down since a years ago and my dad is now a bankrupt. I spend my entire 20s playing games which made me now a introvert. I do have some basic experience in web coding, managing servers, server security as i own a private game server.

However, i do not have passion in coding. I think it is boring and i can’t do it longterm, server security may still interest me but i am not very sure on that and I do have interest in automation machine such as those in manufacture factory.

Luckily, i still have around 150k of savings without debt.

I understand that i can start simple business such as hawker stall, as i do not fear hard labour. But i am a lot more interested in having a stable paycheck monthly. I also can’t do sales as i can’t speak fluently.

The question is, if i were to go back to study, can anyone suggest some of the university courses that can help me to have high chance to secure a job, and have still have a bright career prospect at the age of 34?

Given the fact that i wasted my 20s and the current economy situation, should i just give up the idea of studying and venture into basic business like hawker instead, since i know for a fact that most if not all the employer will just toss the resume of a 34yr freshman without working experience into the trashcan.

Or can anyone suggest me some of alternative path that i can take at the age of 29? I am very lost here and would greatly appreciate if any of you could share some knowledge to help me.

Thank you very much in advance Mr/Mrs.
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You are only 29 laaa kanina...

You have 150k saving (cash flow)

You have special skill (I do have some basic experience in web coding, managing servers, server security as i own a private game server.)

Don't abusive to you wife (make love not war) You have kids (grown up mannnn)

So? You know what to do.........

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post Aug 25 2021, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(JasonObvious @ Aug 22 2021, 05:51 PM)
I am 29 years old, married with one child. Education only SPM level without relevant working experiences.

I am here trying to source for any light in my world of darkness although i know i screw up and don’t deserve pitiness.

I was feeling suicidal frequently and started to be physical abusive toward my wife. Wife isn’t supporting enough and isn’t reliable during my tough time, even destroyed much hope of survival for me. I might also end up a single father soon without career and education. Everyday i hope that i would’nt wake up from my sleep.

My family business had been shut down since a years ago and my dad is now a bankrupt. I spend my entire 20s playing games which made me now a introvert. I do have some basic experience in web coding, managing servers, server security as i own a private game server.

However, i do not have passion in coding. I think it is boring and i can’t do it longterm, server security may still interest me but i am not very sure on that and I do have interest in automation machine such as those in manufacture factory.

Luckily, i still have around 150k of savings without debt.

I understand that i can start simple business such as hawker stall, as i do not fear hard labour. But i am a lot more interested in having a stable paycheck monthly. I also can’t do sales as i can’t speak fluently.

The question is, if i were to go back to study, can anyone suggest some of the university courses that can help me to have high chance to secure a job, and have still have a bright career prospect at the age of 34?

Given the fact that i wasted my 20s and the current economy situation, should i just give up the idea of studying and venture into basic business like hawker instead, since i know for a fact that most if not all the employer will just toss the resume of a 34yr freshman without working experience into the trashcan.

Or can anyone suggest me some of alternative path that i can take at the age of 29? I am very lost here and would greatly appreciate if any of you could share some knowledge to help me.

Thank you very much in advance Mr/Mrs.
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Son, from the day u born, your parents treat you as their precious given all the best thing they have...
They take care u, they give education and u learn from walking till u can make babies of your own, and yet u told us u are lost & feel want to suicide...

Come on Son, Wake up to be a Man...
Today technology are miracle, U can learn anything from social media and generate income from what you learn...

Every brand new day, are reset button, many new challenge are waiting of u to explore... And u are such young and many things to workout...

Don't ever hits your wife, u may divorce your wife but never hurt a Women...
Start learn how to be a good daddy, and start to learn begins a useful human...

When one day u read back at this forum u will found out,, everyone here are try to stay alive...
Forget about what u have but instead learn how to make for living for the next 20 years...
One day ,u shall appreciate my words ....


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QUOTE(JasonObvious @ Aug 22 2021, 05:51 PM)
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First, congratulations on having 150k no debt savings at the age of 29. If you have that much, you're not a failure and in fact you're likely the top 5% of your age group at the moment. Most people do not have the savings you do.

Secondly, don't bother going back to school. Especially for industry like IT where qualifications are less important than skill. If you can demonstrate your skill, you don't need a degree. So rather than waste your money, just work in IT. Even if you have to claw your way up for the first 4 years, at least you're being paid to do so. People with passion and skill are actually rare in this industry, so you have a high chance of climbing up.

Finally, go see a therapist. You are struggling now, we all can see that. However we can't help you untangle your thoughts, seek professional help. It might be expensive, but if you don't address this it will come and back and haunt you and may even destroy any good progress you make.

All the best, you can PM me if you need someone to talk to.

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Pls dont hit ur wife if you want stay in good term with ur children when ur old.



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