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post Aug 21 2021, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(deathninjax @ Aug 20 2021, 06:22 PM)
alright. thanks. seems that fit my budget too.
any recommended workshops and the estimated price? klang is too far and worried about the cases there.
is kee hin tyreplus at old klang road ok?
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185/55/15 PS3 would be the best wet weather tyre you can get. I think its about 260 270 ea for that size. I used the vios 15" rims on myvi to get to 15", if your myvi is not 15" yet coz the 14" don't have any good tyre.

PS3 come in 15" and up;
PS4 for 17" and up, no PS4 for tiny wheels .

keehin OKR very good service and fast, fresh tyre.
alignment also great.
price will not beat klang but reasonable for KL area.
no camber scam issue.
I run 2 sets of PS3 from keehin already.

QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 20 2021, 07:45 PM)
Most probably a Myvi's preferred Front camber is unfriendly to cornering at high enough speed.

I would first sort out this , and think about how to deal with rear camber and toes which are factory un-adjustable because it has a rear torsion beam?
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Negative 1 camber as prescribed by kee hin also can botak outside edge of then-PP2 when I drove my godcar like hell.

A maivee should not brake in the corner as its already very front heavy.
Braking makes it worse, it lift up the rear.
Need to brake in the straight and lightly accelerate thru the corner, press the gas to press the rear down.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Aug 21 2021, 02:14 AM
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post Aug 21 2021, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(deathninjax @ Aug 20 2021, 05:41 PM)
Hello,
I want ask here for advise regarding the best tyre for Perodua Myvi.
I had an accident at the famous bend in Suntex due to aquaplaning recently. [attachmentid=10953604]
My friend recommend Michelin Pilot Sport tyre.
After researching, I found there are 2 different ones. Pilot Sport 3 and Pilot Sport 4.
Is the PS4 tyre available for Myvi?
Are there better tyres? mostly driving in city and highways and I would not like to get into the aquaplaning situation again.
Hoping to have some recommendations/advice from forummers.
Thank you.
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My recommendation would be XM2+ of Michelin. Based on your requirements of aquaplaning as it has the best results.

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Currently it is priced at 180 you can check this table out -->Link
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post Aug 21 2021, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(deathninjax @ Aug 20 2021, 05:41 PM)
Hello,
I want ask here for advise regarding the best tyre for Perodua Myvi.
I had an accident at the famous bend in Suntex due to aquaplaning recently. [attachmentid=10953604]
My friend recommend Michelin Pilot Sport tyre.
After researching, I found there are 2 different ones. Pilot Sport 3 and Pilot Sport 4.
Is the PS4 tyre available for Myvi?
Are there better tyres? mostly driving in city and highways and I would not like to get into the aquaplaning situation again.
Hoping to have some recommendations/advice from forummers.
Thank you.
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Why not you share what's your setup now? Like which gen of Myvi and what's the size and tyre brand/model you are using during the accident?

Difficult for other to recommend when they don't know even the basics like what I have said. PS3 recommendation doesn't work unless your rim is 15in or above. Even if your car is gen3 Myvi with 15in rim, PS3 (195/55R15) may not be suitable to be mounted on the ori rim of 5in width. Unless you use the 185/55R15 which is more expensive, as recommended by ceo684.

You see the problem now when you don't provide enough detail? Garbage in garbage out.

This post has been edited by speedy3210: Aug 21 2021, 09:26 AM
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post Aug 21 2021, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 21 2021, 02:08 AM)
keehin OKR very good service and fast, fresh tyre.
alignment also great.
price will not beat klang but reasonable for KL area.
no camber scam issue.
I run 2 sets of PS3 from keehin already.
Negative 1 camber as prescribed by kee hin also can botak outside edge of then-PP2 when I drove my godcar like hell.
Glad to know that Kee Hin gave you negative 1° camber that improves your driving experience, probably after being told and listened to you of your desired/preferred driving style.

Btw, can you advise whether Kee Hin can make adjustments to a Myvi rear alignment angles which I supposed is a Rear torsion beam design?

No, your Myvi must already had previously replaced the factory Front strut bolt(s) (which are concentric) with an after-market eccentric camber bolts otherwise Kee Hin can't give your Myvi a negative 1° front camber. So your bolts were not stock?

Can you confirm this?

This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 21 2021, 11:23 AM
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post Aug 22 2021, 10:23 PM

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Hi guys,

May I know how much is the price for alignment in Keehin OKR?

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post Aug 23 2021, 01:02 PM

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Sorry to break most of your thinking about Michelin superioness.. If talk about aquaplanning.. Michelin sucks.. They are great for wet braking & handling performance but not aquaplanning performance. Need to differentiate clearly what he wants.

For best aquaplanning tires, seems Falken top the chart for ZE310.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Sp...r-Tyre-Test.htm
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post Aug 24 2021, 01:33 AM

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Michelin is like the Apple products of tires. It’s not bad at all but often people will think whatever Michelin makes will be unmatched and the best.
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post Aug 24 2021, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Aug 24 2021, 01:33 AM)
Michelin is like the Apple products of tires. It’s not bad at all but often people will think whatever Michelin makes will be unmatched and the best.
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They are definitely at the top with models like PS4/PS4S. Many different tests always show why they are placed there for a reason. But it doesn't mean I'm gonna recommend something like the XM2+ at its price point just because they are Michelin lol. In the end it's the specific tyre itself.
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post Aug 24 2021, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 23 2021, 01:02 PM)
Sorry to break most of your thinking about Michelin superioness.. If talk about aquaplanning.. Michelin sucks.. They are great for wet braking & handling performance but not aquaplanning performance. Need to differentiate clearly what he wants.

For best aquaplanning tires, seems Falken top the chart for ZE310.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Sp...r-Tyre-Test.htm
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That test was just for touring mid range tires where it only included Primacy 4. If you include PS3/4, they would be much superior in aquaplaning resistance, especially PS3. Check various comparison tests of UHP category tires and you'll see PS4 often are in the top 5 or 3 in most tests. The other thing about Michelin PS series is how Michelin able to balance out between superior dry and wet performance with relatively excellent durability and good nvh too.
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post Aug 24 2021, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 21 2021, 02:08 AM)
185/55/15 PS3 would be the best wet weather tyre you can get. I think its about 260 270 ea for that size. I used the vios 15" rims on myvi to get to 15", if your myvi is not 15" yet coz the 14" don't have any good tyre.

PS3 come in 15" and up;
PS4 for 17" and up, no PS4 for tiny wheels .

keehin OKR very good service and fast, fresh tyre.
alignment also great.
price will not beat klang but reasonable for KL area.
no camber scam issue.
I run 2 sets of PS3 from keehin already.
Negative 1 camber as prescribed by kee hin also can botak outside edge of then-PP2 when I drove my godcar like hell.

A maivee should not brake in the corner as its already very front heavy.
Braking makes it worse, it lift up the rear.
Need to brake in the straight and lightly accelerate thru the corner, press the gas to press the rear down.
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Slight corrections, ps4 is available from size 16 onwards.
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post Aug 25 2021, 12:25 PM

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go learn defensive driving... no super duper A+ tyre can help when zoom zoom corner into flooded road
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post Dec 23 2021, 11:37 AM

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hi all, can anyone help me, used myvi premium x 1.3, now recce for suitable tyre for replacement of my 3 years bridgestones tyre with standar rim, i want to upgrade to more better n secure one with sport rim
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post Dec 23 2021, 11:44 AM

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wanna ask how much / long usually is for learning defensive driving?

any recommended providers?
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post Dec 23 2021, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 24 2021, 05:19 PM)
That test was just for touring mid range tires where it only included Primacy 4. If you include PS3/4, they would be much superior in aquaplaning resistance, especially PS3. Check various comparison tests of UHP category tires and you'll see PS4 often are in the top 5 or 3 in most tests. The other thing about Michelin PS series is how Michelin able to balance out between superior dry and wet performance with relatively excellent durability and good nvh too.
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FYI, latest test for UHP tires

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Au...P-Tyre-Test.htm

Michelin Pilot Sport 4 still fall short in Aquaplaning resistant, even Falken FK510 also beat it.
The only advantage for PS4 only left dry braking... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 23 2021, 12:32 PM)
FYI, latest test for UHP tires

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Au...P-Tyre-Test.htm

Michelin Pilot Sport 4 still fall short in Aquaplaning resistant, even Falken FK510 also beat it. 
The only advantage for PS4 only left dry braking...  tongue.gif
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But you see, eventhough PS4 didn't top any of the wet tests but it's still on average in the top half of the wet results meaning it is still performing pretty well. Furthermore you cannot just take 1 test then draw a conclusion. Need to see several others and see on average how were the results.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 23 2021, 03:07 PM)
But you see, eventhough PS4 didn't top any of the wet tests but it's still on average in the top half of the wet results meaning it is still performing pretty well. Furthermore you cannot just take 1 test then draw a conclusion. Need to see several others and see on average how were the results.
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Well, you look back up the owner just want good aquaplaning tires. So the test results can show which tire is the better 1. Just a lot of people here think Michelin must be superior is everything, even comfort & silent which they campion long time also loss to Nexen.. rolleyes.gif
As per cyapd feedback, Michelin now is like Apple going into branded category which sometime does not justify the high cost = high performance.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 23 2021, 02:23 PM)
Well, you look back up the owner just want good aquaplaning tires. So the test results can show which tire is the better 1. Just a lot of people here think Michelin must be superior is everything, even comfort & silent which they campion long time also loss to Nexen..  rolleyes.gif
As per cyapd feedback, Michelin now is like Apple going into branded category which sometime does not justify the high cost = high performance.
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Well you started bashing Michelin using irrelevant examples too which were tests for Primacy 4 and PS4 which are not even available for TS size in 15'! So if you really want to go back to TS question, so what's your suggestion for TS size then?? Falken Ecorun? I suggest PS3 cuz I had used it before and I know how good it was in aquaplanning, beating all tires that I had used aside from maybe GY F1A3 and CSC5 which were not available too in 15'. Do you know if Ecorun is really better than PS3?

As for Nexen, it may beat Michelin in comfort in 1 or 2 tests but is it reliable enough? I've seen several times Nexen got bulging issues before. Does it excel in other criteria too, meaning overall well balanced performance across the board? How often a Nexen tires tops the ranking or within the top 5 in various tire tests by reputable reviewers?

I am not saying Michelin is the absolute best all the time too. To me I even think Goodyear now has better overall line up and value for money, but doesn't mean any other cheaper brands can also easily upstage Michelin in overall criteria across the board. Heck Continental and Pirelli are even often more expensive than Michelin yet often beaten too by Michelin or others.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 23 2021, 05:22 PM)
As for Nexen, it may beat Michelin in comfort in 1 or 2 tests but is it reliable enough? I've seen several times Nexen got bulging issues before. Does it excel in other criteria too, meaning overall well balanced performance across the board? How often a Nexen tires tops the ranking or within the top 5 in various tire tests by reputable reviewers?

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BTW, I used Nexen RU1 tires before, no bulging issues and lasted over 65k some more fitted on SUV & gone with some light off road with it.
I have seen Michelin Primacy tires buldging issue also, it all came down on luck and also how the owner/driver use it.

Personally in our SUV group most cases we seen buldging issue is due to wrong type of tires use for wrong purpose. like the Michelin Primacy case the owner fit not SUV rated tires and abuse it with heavy loading and went off road with it. Some nexen tires also same in early stage when they want to intro in our market they bring in those cheap budget range tires, some member also fitted cheap passenger tires on their SUV. doh.gif

If normal road using without abuse or hitting pot holes like nothing, i believe most budget tires also can survive.
But when go into more demanding mode, then it is wise to upgrade to suitable range.

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 23 2021, 04:38 PM)
BTW, I used Nexen RU1 tires before, no bulging issues and lasted over 65k some more fitted on SUV & gone with some light off road with it.
I have seen Michelin Primacy tires buldging issue also, it all came down on luck and also how the owner/driver use it.

Personally in our SUV group most cases we seen buldging issue is due to wrong type of tires use for wrong purpose. like the Michelin Primacy case the owner fit not SUV rated tires and abuse it with heavy loading and went off road with it. Some nexen tires also same in early stage when they want to intro in our market they bring in those cheap budget range tires, some member also fitted cheap passenger tires on their SUV.  doh.gif

If normal road using without abuse or hitting pot holes like nothing, i believe most budget tires also can survive.
But when go into more demanding mode, then it is wise to upgrade to suitable range.
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Then if wrong usage cannot blame the tires. The only real problem I see with Michelin is the chipping issue but that's not major. Nexen I've seen several times bulging despite proper usage. The bulging can be very slight almost not noticeable by eyes but when you touch the surface or drive it, then can feel it. So far only Hankook is really good for Korean brands, I personally wouldn't use those others like Kumho or Nexen.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 23 2021, 05:46 PM)
Then if wrong usage cannot blame the tires. The only real problem I see with Michelin is the chipping issue but that's not major. Nexen I've seen several times bulging despite proper usage. The bulging can be very slight almost not noticeable by eyes but when you touch the surface or drive it, then can feel it. So far only Hankook is really good for Korean brands, I personally wouldn't use those others like Kumho or Nexen.
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When i bought Nexen tires they do have tire warranty, if it did not hit pot holes or got any punctured it can be claim within 1 year from my last purchase.
Usually they will sent for investigation of the tires like checking for sidewall crack or really their own problem.

BTW, the side minor bulging issue if not serious and only 1 place it is usually knew as tire sidewall indentation and it is usually harmless.
If found few place bulging and after do balancing still vibrate then it is tire problem.

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