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post Aug 23 2021, 01:02 PM

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Sorry to break most of your thinking about Michelin superioness.. If talk about aquaplanning.. Michelin sucks.. They are great for wet braking & handling performance but not aquaplanning performance. Need to differentiate clearly what he wants.

For best aquaplanning tires, seems Falken top the chart for ZE310.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Sp...r-Tyre-Test.htm
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post Dec 23 2021, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 24 2021, 05:19 PM)
That test was just for touring mid range tires where it only included Primacy 4. If you include PS3/4, they would be much superior in aquaplaning resistance, especially PS3. Check various comparison tests of UHP category tires and you'll see PS4 often are in the top 5 or 3 in most tests. The other thing about Michelin PS series is how Michelin able to balance out between superior dry and wet performance with relatively excellent durability and good nvh too.
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FYI, latest test for UHP tires

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Au...P-Tyre-Test.htm

Michelin Pilot Sport 4 still fall short in Aquaplaning resistant, even Falken FK510 also beat it.
The only advantage for PS4 only left dry braking... tongue.gif

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post Dec 23 2021, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 23 2021, 03:07 PM)
But you see, eventhough PS4 didn't top any of the wet tests but it's still on average in the top half of the wet results meaning it is still performing pretty well. Furthermore you cannot just take 1 test then draw a conclusion. Need to see several others and see on average how were the results.
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Well, you look back up the owner just want good aquaplaning tires. So the test results can show which tire is the better 1. Just a lot of people here think Michelin must be superior is everything, even comfort & silent which they campion long time also loss to Nexen.. rolleyes.gif
As per cyapd feedback, Michelin now is like Apple going into branded category which sometime does not justify the high cost = high performance.
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post Dec 23 2021, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 23 2021, 05:22 PM)
As for Nexen, it may beat Michelin in comfort in 1 or 2 tests but is it reliable enough? I've seen several times Nexen got bulging issues before. Does it excel in other criteria too, meaning overall well balanced performance across the board? How often a Nexen tires tops the ranking or within the top 5 in various tire tests by reputable reviewers?

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BTW, I used Nexen RU1 tires before, no bulging issues and lasted over 65k some more fitted on SUV & gone with some light off road with it.
I have seen Michelin Primacy tires buldging issue also, it all came down on luck and also how the owner/driver use it.

Personally in our SUV group most cases we seen buldging issue is due to wrong type of tires use for wrong purpose. like the Michelin Primacy case the owner fit not SUV rated tires and abuse it with heavy loading and went off road with it. Some nexen tires also same in early stage when they want to intro in our market they bring in those cheap budget range tires, some member also fitted cheap passenger tires on their SUV. doh.gif

If normal road using without abuse or hitting pot holes like nothing, i believe most budget tires also can survive.
But when go into more demanding mode, then it is wise to upgrade to suitable range.

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post Dec 23 2021, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 23 2021, 05:46 PM)
Then if wrong usage cannot blame the tires. The only real problem I see with Michelin is the chipping issue but that's not major. Nexen I've seen several times bulging despite proper usage. The bulging can be very slight almost not noticeable by eyes but when you touch the surface or drive it, then can feel it. So far only Hankook is really good for Korean brands, I personally wouldn't use those others like Kumho or Nexen.
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When i bought Nexen tires they do have tire warranty, if it did not hit pot holes or got any punctured it can be claim within 1 year from my last purchase.
Usually they will sent for investigation of the tires like checking for sidewall crack or really their own problem.

BTW, the side minor bulging issue if not serious and only 1 place it is usually knew as tire sidewall indentation and it is usually harmless.
If found few place bulging and after do balancing still vibrate then it is tire problem.
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post Jan 4 2022, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Jan 3 2022, 11:21 PM)
What about Myvi with 14" rims? Which tyre would you guys recommend?
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Depending on your budget. If money is not an issue, going to premium brand like Michelin, Bridgestone, Pirelli, Goodyear is safer bet.

If want middle range, Falken, Hankook, Yokohama, Toyo, Maxxis is also few good brands to consider.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Search/Size/175...4/Season/Summer

My personal recommendation, either Falken SN832 or Yokohama ES32 for the balance value + performance.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2018-AD...-175-65-R14.htm

Falken SN832 score 1st for 175/65/R14 tyre category base on the review test link above.

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post Jan 24 2022, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Jan 24 2022, 03:42 AM)
Whats the price of Falken SN832 and which tyre centre would you recommend?
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Tyre price nowadays price up a lot and not accurate depending on areas

If you want to know direct ask stamford tyres as they are the main distributor of Falken tyres in Malaysia.

https://www.stamfordtyres.com.my/retail-workshop/
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post Jan 24 2022, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Jan 24 2022, 05:43 PM)
Just asked them, 175/65/14 is RM140 each. Reasonable?

But it is Falken SN832i. Is it the same with SN832?
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Same bro.
RM140 consider cheap already.
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post Jan 31 2022, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(zinniur @ Jan 29 2022, 01:45 PM)
been using ES32 for almost 20k mileage,the grip for wet is good...but seems the noise is higher than my previous dunlop j06.

is toyo CR1 is better than ES32 or same category?
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CR1 is local design tires, while ES32 is design for international tires.
If you just want budget only, go for CR1 but dont expect better grip & performance as ES32.

If about noise, please check if your tires got a lot stone chips attach to is as ES32 tires got 1 weakness is due to softer rubber a lot of stones is easier to attach to the tyre tread groove. If you remove the stones the noise can reduce a bit.

Dunlop J06 when new is quiet, but after a while the material went harden and everything went to poor/normal for me. Personally i used before Dunlop but after 10k i changed due to poor braking performance as it went harden and my ride skidded far a lot during emergency braking. Thus i changed back to ES32 after considering all the factors.

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post Feb 4 2022, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Feb 3 2022, 06:40 AM)
Really dunlop j6 bad ?
I just changed to j6 last month, shit

So wat u did, can trade in the tyre after 10k?
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Yes. I trade in for the ES32 with 50% of the original value from the Dunlop tires.
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post Feb 4 2022, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(zinniur @ Jan 31 2022, 02:19 PM)
hmm u make sense regarding the stone chips attached to tyre,there's a lot of it,but its quite troublesome to remove everytime...well, any recommended tyre 1 tier above ES32?
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If you want better tires is either the Falken or go up to Michelin/Bridgestone/Pirelli level.

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post Mar 2 2022, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(StrikeQUAN @ Mar 2 2022, 01:59 PM)
Hi all Sifu ,

For performance use , which Michelin tire are recommend ?

Wanna install for 16" rims at myvi gen3
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Personally i dont recommend to go up to 16".
Usually 15" is more better as more performance tyre size & model is available compare to 16"
If want proper mode better opt for wider & lighter sport rim and go for 195/50/R15 tyre size. (Michelin if not mistaken only got PS3 for this size)
If die die need 16" you will need to up size to 205/45/R16 also only PS3 available.




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post Mar 3 2022, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(StrikeQUAN @ Mar 2 2022, 03:15 PM)
lighter sport rim got any recommend ?
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Go to sport rim shop and ask to recommend.
Ask them bring weighing machine and weigh your original sport rim against the new sport rim.
If got money sure we recommend genuine Japanese sport rim, if low budget can consider Thailand made Lenso or other brands.

https://kingofrims.com.my/product/wheel?sea...gory=15&inch=15

King of rims is also a good place to search for sport rim recommendation.
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post Mar 4 2022, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(StrikeQUAN @ Mar 3 2022, 07:30 PM)
LENSO and Advanti rims good ? never try those before , are they light weight rims ?
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"Ask them bring weighing machine and weigh your original sport rim against the new sport rim."

Already mentioned this before.
What do you think the weighing machine do? laugh.gif
Ask them weight the sport rims you like and compare the weight.
Main objective for sure lighter the better for aftermarket sport rims.


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post Oct 3 2022, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(epjx31 @ Oct 2 2022, 02:43 PM)
Based on my check the best bet for a wet tire for Myvi is the Xm2+. Wet braking is absolute best in-class while having excellent wear. I had also had a quick look on aquaplaning and XM2+ is the top of the class. So no worries. smile.gif
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Michelin even with top of the range aquaplaning is not always the top of the class, the only best for Xm2+ is it can last longer and the rest like wet & dry braking performance will not wear much even after long use, this is their real advantage.

Do not mix aquaplaning with wet braking, these 2 are different category. I always heard a lot of people say it but aquaplaning means you need to drive thru certain water level at a certain speed without loosing control, Michelin is not the best in this category. If want solely better aquaplaning tires, Falken & many other brands (even Maxxis) also can beat Michelin in this category. Aquaplaning are tested via Straight Aqua & Curved Aquaplaning, just google about tyre review.
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post Oct 3 2022, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 3 2022, 10:56 AM)
There's a marked diff between grip with lower grade eco tyres vs PS3 or Primacy3.
With PS3 hardly activate ABS and worth every penny as I can use them to 0% (hit the TWI).

Other tyres like Fxxken 912, Yoko C-drive at 30% already activate ABS in standstill jam when its raining.
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Your mentioning wet braking performance, this is their strength. If Aquaplaning that is different.

BTW the tires you mentioned about already obsolete and replaced by newer model, Falken 912 & Yoko C-Drive both consider touring tires.
Not sure why you pick a higher PS3 (UHP) tires and compare lower grade tires.. doh.gif If both of them can did better, you can throw Michelin tires in the drain already.


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post Oct 5 2022, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(epjx31 @ Oct 4 2022, 09:50 PM)
For sure, aquaplaning and wet braking is totally different test. However from physics point of view a good wet braking compound actually helps to dissipate more water during driving hence the improvement in aquaplaning. Based on internal test results which I have seen, xm2+ is definitely the best aquaplaning tire in its class.
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Try not to dispute further. You have your own view, but if your ride already loss control during aquaplaning, wet braking does not help and you can only reduce speed via ease off acceleration.

Plenty of information on how to control back your ride during aquaplaning and most of it advice don't emergency brake (which wet braking is no use during this situation or maybe make it even worse)

https://www.torque.com.sg/advice/how-to-prevent-aquaplaning/

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post Mar 29 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(loki @ Mar 28 2023, 04:54 PM)
15" . same . not much effect. Problem is car is light. Aqua planning will occur no matter what tyre you use. Just drive slower..
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Wah, so long time post still got reply.
Anyway Michelin sucks in Aquaplanning, they are only great in wet braking.
A lot of test from youtube & website like tirereviews already got data to proof.

Check on the Tyre Test Results and look for Aquaplanning or straight/curved Aqua data ratings

PS 3 Review
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Michelin/P...Sport-3-PS3.htm

PS 4 Review
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Michelin/Pilot-Sport-4.htm

Michelin dont score top of the chart table on these categories... If primary looking into Aquaplaning performance better get others..





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post Jun 6 2023, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(techtalks @ Jun 5 2023, 11:52 AM)
All these reviews are highly subjective. It depends on the newness of the rubber, road conditions at the time, vehicle used, etc etc. A myvi on PS3 would fare very differently with a BMW 530i on the same model of tires

With regards to Myvi running 195 55 15, PS3 is probably the best all rounder one can get with a relatively long lifespan
Only drawback is the price which is at the highest it has ever been in history
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The previous reply is for the guy which want a better hydroplane tire. Unless you got any test data done locally, if not words also just words.
If want to know which tire model provide the best for different category, these website test data can provide the best reference.

Simple said, buy the tire which match your/driver preference and not by brand. If you prefer overall and can pay premium, then just go buy Michelin since is your money anyways.

 

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