Ohh, I wanted to share this!!!



Look...! A story book based on glider!

I love the illustrations!

Gonna search if they have it here at Borders or Kino... Or else order it!





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Eee, so bad lar...

Even the fish shop that I go for my mealworms, last time got WC gliders too, but I think not as bad... Although I pity them, but the aunty seems to give them a variety of fruits wor... Always different one every time I go... But they are very skinny... So sad...


KP

Haha, I bet if you've seen some of the inside pages, you'd double freak out...

But I like it

The illustrator pays good attention to detail in a childish way

I like!


KP

I meant the milk, not the tweezer



OMG

*Falls off the chair...*

Then you seriously know nothing about suggies yet...

If you are seriously interested to keep suggies, you need to do some research dear...

It's not that 2 months OOP is better... 2 months OOP is the right age, is the correct age, the supposed age for a joey to be separated from their mother.

Sugar gliders are marsupial, so when a joey is born, they will crawl into their mother's pouch and stay in there/grow in there for 2 months.

All the while in the pouch, we cannot see it, touch it or take it out.

After 2 months being in the pouch, then they will come out. That is what we call Out Of Pouch (OOP)

Right after OOP, the joeys eyes will still be closed until it is 2 weeks OOP.

The joey will need to be with their mother until it is 8 weeks OOP because during this period they will be nursing and learning everything that their parents teach them.

Understand?

So the right weaned age is atleast 8 weeks OOP (or if you wanna add with their time being in the pouch, yes, it is 4 months after birth)

Clear?

KP

*sighhh*

Please read and understand Reanne's elaborated explanation (I know it's long, but I have read every single of her word)

Don't put your defense mode up front before you finish reading her replies.

What she is pointing out is nothing but the truth (and she is not pointing it to you...)

It doesn't matter what it's called, be it mass breeder or miller, but when one breeds that way, those two terms carry the same meaning.

I will not touch on hamster breeding and such as I am not even close to good at it. But my main concern is about breeding gliders.

Breeding gliders is not as close to how you breed hamsters. It is way, way more complicated and time consuming and will delay your turn around time if you do it properly (because you need to wait for atleast 4 months before you should sell the joeys) I shall name anyone who breeds glider in mass a "miller" as fast as a heart beat! Because I know they will not be practising the proper glider breeding ethics.

And if you do breed gliders, I would love to see their breeding place and such if you allow me to - period.

We are all concerned about breeding because we love animals not the other way round, so it is always good to be open and willing to accept new things in a forum discussion like this.



KP

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Added on January 23, 2008, 11:38 amOhh Broken_string,

I hope you'll glider will recover soon!

Poor little suggie!


KP

This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jan 23 2008, 11:38 AM

I dunno if can use the common tweezer we use to pluck facial hair...

I'm using those tweezer to pick up small things one... The one with pointed ends...

Something like this,





Turnip is not sengkuang... More like those Lobak Putih...

Anyway, turnip green is the leaf part of the turnip which looks like this,




KP

This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jan 23 2008, 03:26 PM

Mine has pointed tip like in the pix, but is bent not straight up like that so it never pokes up to my suggies face...



Lemme look for another pix...


KP

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It's something like this...




KP

This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jan 23 2008, 03:39 PM

Alaa, if you had told me earlier, today also can since cuti ma...

This weekend lor, okay?



Haha, that's very normal dear

Most suggies do that. The thing they spit out is called "pulp"

They have extracted all the juices and such, the pulp is sort of the excess non-value food anymore



Sorry, I can't help but LOL when I saw your pix

That one is used for planted tanks, yes...

But if for mealworms, must be a gigantic mealworm ooo

Hehehe



Haha, won't sampai die lar... But how come any fish shop in Subang don't have mealworms/ulat...

When you find later, sure kena borong banyak-banyak lor


KP

broken_string,

Ohh dear...

I really wish he would stop struggling as we are just trying to help him out...



I know you have done all your best and I hope you will continue to do so...

I pray that he will recover very soon...





Leave the dog at home and bring your suggies to work

Haha, that's one...

Make time to play with them atleast a while during their feeding time which is usually after 11 pm...





Err, if a shop sells to me half dead mealworms (the hitam2 ones) I also won't buy...

Try cari other places lagi lar... I'm sure must have one...


KP

Yes, it's good to give the mealworms carrot as gutloading, but make sure it's not wet when you put it in and remove it after leaving it over night, else it will rot and your whole mealworm can die and stink from it

Keeping cricket is tricky, cannot put them in small containers, they will die easily. Need something big like a "baldi" or something... Then put papers and cover the top with proper mesh. If not well ventilated also can die easily and stink.


KP

Most veggies just give it raw

Cut into smaller cubes or you can puree it


KP

Picture time!!!

The long promised pictures of the new cage

Promise not to laugh cuz it's still so bare... The cage is just too big! Probably need about a month of proper renovation Ofcourse after full renovation, will post it again lar...

In thepetglider.com, this cage is referred to as "the glider mansion"... Hoho...

Total measurement, 55 inch tall (appx. 4.5 ft!) x 30 inch wide (2.5 ft) x 18 inch deep (1.5 ft)



The whole cage!!! Cannot even fit fully in my camera's viewfinder



The top part, where most of the stuff is



Feeding station



Sleeping pouch and hammock



Tunnel and fleece strips turn climbing gym



Wodent Wheel aka "Gym"



The inhabitant/owner of the mansion! "Okay, enough pixs, we wanna sleep..." sez Iggy

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KP

Haha, thanks!



Still a lot to be done tho


KP

Dead crickets smell horrible! Yuck!

That one time really stuck to me and I have never bought crickets since...

Haha, thanks!

I know some suggies can open those slide doors, but since their prev cage (which also has those slide doors) until now, they have not managed to open it So I leave it be... My husband also warned me, but I know fully well that mine can't open it

Hehe


KP

CFP,

Iggy said "tak muat lar..." Hehehe

Tak sempat tanya lar, cuz that day everything was in a mess and rush... The owner was there, the cashier was down, got snake supplier demanding claim and so on...

But will ask the next time I go there

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The cage is still so empty... I prefer all the stuff to be high up so that it won't catch their poo also Will add more stuff gradually

Not all suggies love heights... Luna is a serious crawler and dwell more at the bottom part of the cage


KP

Haha, I did freeze the crickets that survived the next day... But my husband doesn't like the idea of crickets in our freezer

If only we have those canned ones


KP

Yes, mealworms and cricket provide them with protein, but make sure to gutload it a little, the mealworms and crickets sold here are not enough healthy.

Can feed them everyday too in little amount.

I hope you don't mind, but please get a bigger cage for your suggie. The hamster cage shown in the GS is wayyyyy too small for suggies even tho the joey looks small.

Big cage is very important to keep suggies.

Do spend some time reading the first page as well as some discussion done here in this forum. There are plenty of useful infos for newbies.

Keeping glider is not a short term commitment, it's a long term commitment.

Selling is easy, but keeping them needs a lot more commitment.


KP

Cannn... They say crickets are better than mealworms actually just that it's harder to keep...

Aiyorrr, for gut loading, refer to first page or prev pages, has been discussed so many times...

Cut into half and take out the juices is "gutting" or "siang" not gut loading



As long as it is positively 2 months OUT OF POUCH NOT 2 months FROM BIRTH is fine.

If the 4-5 months OOP is already hand tamed not wild ones, it should be fine too.

But bear in mind, most seller can tell you any age they like unless they keep records of their birth and OOP dates. Like what they are doing in the pet shops...

Cross check with the pixs we've shown here to roughly determine the age.

I'll upload some other more in a while



Thanks!

I think it is much more worth it than the ones you surveyed last time if you can remember

I bought it at Pet Safari lor... The cages there are good and have lotsa options, just the pets are not...

It's RM250, you'll get a 10% disc if you're a member tho'

4 of them living in that big mansion


KP

Nyehehehe, when they have a name, I'll introduce 'em


KP

No worries lah.

If you've been here long enough, you'll understand most of the people's style here including me.

Need explanation in BM can ask me, chinese mebbe crazymouse, reanne or broken_string can help


KP

Yeap, 4!

All big already

All 4 we're in the pouch when the pix was taken


KP