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post Nov 23 2007, 03:27 PM

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That's Kikiz's long awaited baby. Persimmon? I haven't tried but a lot of sites got, so probably can gua.
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QUOTE(summerboyz @ Nov 25 2007, 04:14 PM)
can anyone tell me usually whats the price for a sugar gliders??looks so cute~ and can become pocket monster! tongue.gif
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Around 300+. Before you think of buying must do research neh. smile.gif If you think you are ready to take on this responsibility, you can try your knowledge here to test yourself.
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post Nov 29 2007, 04:16 PM

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If a petshop is selling glider joeys at less than RM300, they may be mislabeled or selling them too young. Suppliers that like to let their joeys off young tend to sell cheaper, so watch out for these factors.

Monkey biscuits are widely used in the pet industry but after looking at the general ingredients, I would rather stay away. The ingredients I saw were not high quality and some even had preservatives like BHA and Ethoxyquin. Plus, my gliders didn't like it much.

No, never tie anything to a glider, your best bet is to tame and bond to it. It's like an invisible leash that you dont even need to hold, they will automatically come back to you. But this requires lots of time spent with it, it won't happen overnight so dont come here to complain after a week. It takes about 3 to 4 months of constant bonding before you can let your glider safely explore the mamak table or your teacher's shoulder.

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I still haven't named my newest girl. Hmm... Today my teacher played with her and called her 'bijin', which means beautiful person. Should I name her BiJiou? Means beautiful female. lol
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QUOTE(flora02 @ Dec 13 2007, 07:33 PM)
i m very very afraid if my baby girl got pregnant..... duno wat to do.... should i seperate the male in a different cage and let the mummy take care?

i also afraid the baby will drop down from the cage cuz the cage is tall....

arggg .... if they wan to, they can have a baby already, but ... duno when =/
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No, do not separate the male, it will stress the mom and the father plays a very important role in raising the joeys. You should hang the pouch lower, nearer to the ground so that they do not get injured or hurt from falling.

QUOTE(emino @ Dec 13 2007, 07:07 PM)
Heya fellas. I'm interested in keeping a sugar glider as a pet biggrin.gif. They are so damn cute and adorable! I've even look for some suitable cages at some local pet stores, just as a survey.

I have a few questions.

1. How does their poop looks like? and how bad is the smell?
2. Will it be okay if I place their cages on the balcony of my house once I got one of these adorable creature?

Hopefully someone will answer those questions. Looking forward for the answers, and will rpob ask more later tongue.gif.
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Glider poop basically looks like hamster poop. Their poop don't really smell much when it's nice and firm, if they get diarrhoea then will smell bad. Their pee smells more.

Personally I don't encourage keeping gliders and their cages on balconies. May attract unwanted guests like cats, musang etc, and when it rains heavily or gets chilly, you glider could fall sick. Indoors is best.

QUOTE(silverwineus @ Dec 13 2007, 09:11 PM)
Helo, i'm not a glider veteran, but would share my view with you.
Their poop is very alike to the household lizards, but slightly larger.
In terms of smell of the critter, keeping it indoor might be different than outdoor. Due to the better ventilation of outdoor environment, smell can be much diminished.
Personally i chosed to keep glider, part of the reason is, that it is very much cleaner animal, compared to the rodents.
I have kept mine outdoor and didn't notice any smell so far, but do not know about indoor keepers.

If the balcony is not expose to direct sunlight to a great extent, i think there's no harm. You can read more on this subject on the harm of direct sunlight on glider's sensitive eyes.
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Nyeh, try not to compare to rodents sweat.gif They are part of the marsupial family after all. Gliders should be allowed a very dark area to get away from the light and to get appropriate rest, if you were to keep them on the balcony or outdoors.

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Waaa.... Another gathering? I can arrange it to be in my friend's place again, he did say we're welcome to have one again. biggrin.gif

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Yes, gliders can get used to almost anything, if given the patience and time. First take it a few times on your bike for a few short, quiet rides in your neighbourhood. Later slowly take it to noisier places, take it a step at a time and it will be used to it with no problems. But make sure your glider does all its business before you put it in the pouch and get an extra strong clip to be sure your glider CANNOT open the pouch while you're on the bike.
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Chances of that happening are not likely with bonded gliders, but with gliders that are not bonded or were not exposed to the public, chances are much higher.
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post Dec 14 2007, 10:38 PM

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I dont think thats a good idea because it's probably too rough for their feet. Birds have scaly feet, so their feet can withstand the roughness.
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post Dec 15 2007, 12:06 PM

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My gliders get fatter on crickets. They've been on mealworm treats for the past few days, haven't gained much weight.
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Dec 15 2007, 04:49 PM)
i went to mid valley pet wonderland..and i saw they sell a glider for 488.. and have 50% discount, so the price around rm244... i dont know either its a joey or adult..but i pity that glider..it sleep in a hamster size house.and only got a piece of stick lying on the floor,and a water bottle..if i have the money like you guys, sure i already buy that glider..very sad looking at it..he was sleeping in the hamster-size house.and no toys to play wit..aihhh kesian
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Yes, must kesian kan these animals, but don't kesian until buy. I don't recommend buying any live animals from PW, actually, because they do not care for them properly which will result in a lot of health problems. Even some of their dogs look so unhealthy. Whenever you feel compassion and buy them, you're actually supporting them to get more stock and more will suffer the same way.

There're only so much you can save.

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There's no law against it as Malaysia's concern doesn't scope on animals.

They lie and talk nonsense because they want ppl to buy and to keep the conversation short. Imagine if the person working there explains all the details, the supervisor will probably scold him or her as they spend too much time on one customer. But then again, animal lovers usually dont work in that kind of pet stores because usually their superiors are more money minded and can't stand watching animals suffer.
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10 to 15 mealworms a day. Feed the mealies until they're fat.

Hold the cricket firm. Usually first time if they dont know how to eat, the might get scared as crickets can bite and kick.
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Hmm... Neutering funds.... Kinda hard, as like you said, they are small animals. Dogs and cats are easier as they can take general anaesthesia. Now we're looking for another way to neuter gliders, needs time though.

Don't forget to feed the crickets a source of protein like cat/dog food (The good brands only please.) Or they will end up eating each other. The Innova Evo canned dog food is not bad, tried it before, the crickets loved them and so did my dogs. biggrin.gif

Feed high calcium and vitamin c veggies too.

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That percentage is questionable. Best to give a higher percentage of protein for growing joeys. 50% fruits by 50% protein. Crickets are higher in protein. Always choose fruits that have higher calcium ratio over phosphorus as the main, fruits that are vice versa should only be given occasionally. Sweet fruits are preferred by gliders, so testing a bit before hand would be good. Some gliders won't touch fruit that are not sweet until they are really hungry, which you shouldn't resort your glider to doing. And believe me, some times fruits can taste so bland that it make me lose my appetite.

Adults don't need so much protein, so you can reduce to the 25/75 percentage. But once in a while a little boost in protein wouldn't hurt.

No, you don't NEED to feed your gliders pinkies. Some gliders don't like them though.

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Dec 21 2007, 08:41 PM)
I hope so too. BTW, do suggies shed a lot of fur? and do they have biting problems? I'm talking about serious biting problems. My hamsters seem to love biting me for fun...
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No, they don't shed a lot of fur. They don't really shed much actually. Tame and bonded gliders should not bite, unless they're like my Billie. She plays and play bites my fingers like a cat, Loves to run around with my scrunchy and pencils.

QUOTE(Jamien @ Dec 21 2007, 11:28 PM)
Then if they bite you just let them bite? Won't that make them think it is ok  to bite?

So they don't drop a lot of fur? My guinea pig sheds fur wherever she goes.

And I saw 1 thing called flexi tray. Is that a cage like thing like flexarium? I''m planning to use that since i'll be moving and gotta take the tray with me.
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The flexi tray is the tray for the flexarium, it's not the cage itself. Do make sure your glider doesn't chew through the flexarium if you're planning to house them in one.
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Close your eyes and brace yourself. Let them attack. By closing your eyes you won't know when it attacks so it's better. Brace yourself for the bite, should work. Don't think of the pain and stuff, just think of not letting your suggie get the best of you.
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Ha? The crabbing sound? Must make yourself used to it lor, or your glider will get the better of you. Happened before to someone, the glider became very crabby and sort of controlled the owner by crabbing at things she didn't like the owner doing, so the owner was in a dilemma.
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You will get a pair of wild caught adult gliders that will not hesitate to bite you and will be very difficult to tame. They are wild caught so you won't know what diseases or parasites they carry and you can barely touch them at all. Wild gliders also tend to be more messy and may stink more due to them marking each other. Also may succumb to nutritional deficiencies in captivity as they are from the wild, their bodies are used to having a large variety of food that is very difficult to find for them in captivity.

Many of us know of these ppl selling WC gliders, they're cheap, but is it really worth buying and supporting these ppl catching animals from the wild?

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Cat food can be given as treats, maybe one or two kibbles a week, but never as a staple. Also, feeding Orijen or california natural should be the few brands accepted to be given to a glider for treats. Most other brands contain fillers like corn.
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M0R0NS la these ppl, this is what I meant by their expertise saack. Such horrible things they do to gliders. First they feed only apple and dog kibble and tell ppl to do the same, result in unhealthy gliders and sudden deaths. Now they don't even know how to explain what's a glider. Later someone try to breed these 3 together to get a glider pulak. Haih... What a sad thing.

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