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krynzpeaches	Jan 3 2008, 09:13 AM Return to original view \| Post #201
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 2 2008, 06:35 PM) Yeah, you really don't know until you try it. I think i should be more optimistic with it. It was a bad experience that i had with my GP that cast the doubts. I bought stuff like excercising ball for them and my hard earned money gone down the drain.. haha. The best bet for suggies to use the Wodent Wheel is to leave it be in the cage all the time even if they don't accept it for a month... At one point they will learn to explore it and use it QUOTE(ayiesz @ Jan 2 2008, 08:52 PM) every 2 or 3 days need to clean the wheel. they pee n poo in/on it Oh yes, the pee and poo on the wheel will give the nastiest smell ever if not cleaned regularly... I still think the wheel is always dirtied by Luna QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 2 2008, 10:27 PM) The correct size should be the hedgehog or chinchilla wheel, which actually is much more expensive than the Wodent Wheel from KP. Added on January 2, 2008, 10:34 pm Sigh, I was also mad when I saw your sms.... I also feel like kicking the guy. So wrong... totally wrong. I went to PS the day before you went, so angry when I saw 8 underage joeys.... but there was no one for me to complain about it since there was no staff around.... weird. But I only had like 5 minutes there. Sigh. --- So beware, those who buy from PS, your glider may have bad eye sight later... A 12 inch/30 cm wheel is recommended for suggies. Lesser than this size can lead to back injury in the long run. I've seen those 12 inch silent wheel selling at PS for RM98.90 woo... --- When I was at PS, I only saw the 2 small joeys huddled in the glass tank on the counter, no others... Even looked in the big glass store room but cannot find any. Mebbe people have already bought it... So sad... --- A glider with bad eye sight is not good... How will they navigate themselves in the dark? Poor things! QUOTE(Reanne @ Jan 2 2008, 10:55 PM) M0R0NS la these ppl, this is what I meant by their expertise saack. Such horrible things they do to gliders. First they feed only apple and dog kibble and tell ppl to do the same, result in unhealthy gliders and sudden deaths. Now they don't even know how to explain what's a glider. Later someone try to breed these 3 together to get a glider pulak. Haih... What a sad thing. Ohh, the label on the tank only says that sugar glider diet consist of Fuji apples and insects... Aiyooo... So normal apple cannot ahh?? Only Fuji apple? What crap!!! Gee, I hope no one will try breeding those 3 species to get a glider... God knows what will the result be QUOTE(ayiesz @ Jan 3 2008, 03:16 AM) hopefully next month can still order since now broke already I think possible lor since this bulk is moving so slow... I feel like canceling it pun ada... QUOTE(buttercup07 @ Jan 3 2008, 03:56 AM) cannot ar write something to Pet safari?? and give them a manual on sugar glider... damn sad lah...haiyoooo... im goin there la to check out...will try n talk to those fellas there I don't think writing will do any good. It's better to summon to supervisor or store manager there and then and give them a piece of your mind. Yeah, if you go, kick them for me will ya Then when I go again, I'll give them another kick! KP Eeeee, I like the new smileys with santa hats
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krynzpeaches	Jan 3 2008, 02:11 PM Return to original view \| Post #202
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	This is not the right place to ask about buying cheap suggies and breeding them. Cheap isn't always good. If you choose cheap and the quality or health is not good, don't blame people. Look in the GS not here. KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 3 2008, 02:22 PM Return to original view \| Post #203
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Keeping a male and female will breed indefinitely. If you wanna know more about suggies, you can ask. But you wanna buy them especially with cheap price, this is not the place. No selling, or wanting to sell, or buying here in the forum. This forum is meant for discussion. Plus, home bred suggies are pricey because of the health reasons. Anyway, just take some time to browse through this forum and read up a bit. There has been many discussions about this to newbies including proper care, stuff, diet, pricing and so on. KP This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jan 3 2008, 02:33 PM
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krynzpeaches	Jan 3 2008, 06:17 PM Return to original view \| Post #204
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	Yes, as discussed in the prev pages, the joeys there are seriously under-aged and not well taken care of. All the info given out to customers are also incorrect. What we can do and must do at anytime we see/go/encounter this is that we must point it out, voice it out to someone superior there... The last time I went, I didn't manage to do so and I felt terribly bad. At least if you have voiced out something and they still don't do nothing, you know you have done a small part to try and make a difference. The joeys they are selling are estimated to be only 2-3 weeks out of pouch, where the right age to be separated from their parents is 8-9 weeks out of pouch. KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 4 2008, 10:31 AM Return to original view \| Post #205
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 3 2008, 06:35 PM) It has become so rampant that such mistreating of joeys cases happen, and to such extent that i my self have become insensate by the cruelty. Yes, I kindda feel the same way too when I was looking at some poorly conditioned adults at the fish shop near my house... Pity but not much feeling cuz I know the shop owner doesn't give a sh*t... QUOTE(jinhoe @ Jan 3 2008, 06:49 PM) the person by tis name Symington Jenkin at adpost wana sell joey tat is just 1 month old T^T Be aware of Adpost sellers, some do sell under aged joeys and use other pixs to sell joeys which is not the actual pix of the joey. Quite a number of them are just selling for the mooney... QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 3 2008, 09:10 PM) I want to know what's that either. What's that huh? Wow.. a very typical sleepling beauty.. a kiss will arouse her from the slumber, haha.. Err, finger wrestling is something like you use your finger to wrestle with them Haha, Hun invented it, so she know better how to explain Oh, my babies are all sleeping beauties during the day... But they have one big monster always breaking their slumber QUOTE(ayiesz @ Jan 3 2008, 10:11 PM) one of my SG escaped through my window just now. lucky he didnt jump down and came in back got a very small lubang also can escape Arghhh! Do be careful. Find a way to cover the hole so that your suggie won't be able to escape again... If escape never come back how? Be careful... QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 3 2008, 10:16 PM) I want to get a Sugar Glider, but what should i buy? --- Why? Still searching for SG around Kuching, will but it for present, just wanna ask what should i buy so later no need to be so huru - hara. Owning a glider needs a LOT of research. Not even as close to keeping a cat. Needs extreme attention, time and care. Getting a glider as present is a really bad idea unless you know the person already has one or is REALL-REALLY prepared and up to keeping one. Giving a glider as a present is NOT like giving a hamster as a present but more like giving a human baby! They need a lot of attention and care, and if the person you give to is not prepared for that, all you are doing is giving the glider a stressful and bleak life! Think carefully. (If you need me to explain to you in other language, do let me know and I will try my best to help you.) QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 3 2008, 11:11 PM) You wear a jersey, then at the junction between your arms and shoulder, strap rubber band, so that they won't be abe to enter inside your sleeves and claw your arms. Err, it doesn't have to be jersey right? I've never used/wear a jersey, just any plain "busuk" shirt and I let them wonder in out freely QUOTE(ayiesz @ Jan 4 2008, 12:49 AM) ouwww they keep biting me. esp on my neck and near elbow (i wear short sleeves). does ur SG stay still or climb here n there on your body? They're testing you, sedap ke tak untuk dimakan Some will stay stoned on your body, some will explore here and there. Personally, I prefer them to explore here and there so that I know they are still on me QUOTE(buttercup07 @ Jan 4 2008, 05:43 AM) try find a guy name SAM in adpost...he sells good n healthy suggies... i bought my female suggie from him.. KP why not we do a letter, which all of us support on what the letter is saying and with few back ups from a few vet/doc..and from a government punya side ka...then send letters to pet stores who doesnt actually treat suggies well...like to just to scare them or something...hmm... SAM... Why does he sound familiar... A letter with back up support is a good idea, but I think it must also be accompanied by a good lecture face to face with someone superior or in front of the crowd... I think if the public know what they are doing is wrong, that could change them/make them do something... KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 4 2008, 11:59 AM Return to original view \| Post #206
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 4 2008, 11:44 AM) To add on, when you give a glider to another person, you are saying on behalf of that person "From now on I will watch less TV and spend more time with the suggies, I will set apart allocations for buying a spacious accommodation for them, allowance for food, worms, insects and dietary supplement. I will clean and wipe their cage, prepare food and water...I have to keep an eye on them for their safety, I will have to spend time accumulating whatever knowledge about health issues and vetinary treatment if possibly when they get sick. If I'm planning for vacation, I need to plan for their custody etc. I will have to do all this not for a year but for as far as they can live up to 10 years." Oh yes, that is soooo true! But to make it more realistic, lemme amend some parts When you give a glider to another person, you are saying to that person "Here you go, from now on you will watch less TV and spend more time with the suggies, you will set apart allocations for buying a spacious accommodation for them, allowance for food, worms, insects and dietary supplement. You will clean and wipe their cage, prepare food and water... You have to keep an eye on them for their safety, you will have to spend time accumulating whatever knowledge about health issues and veterinary treatment if possibly when they get sick. If you are planning for vacation, you will need to plan for their babysitter/custody etc. if you plan to leave them. You will have to do all this not for a year but for as far as they can live up to 10 years." There, that sounds nicer don't you think snickering KP ps : sorry, can't seem to find the right color expression This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jan 4 2008, 12:14 PM
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krynzpeaches	Jan 4 2008, 12:58 PM Return to original view \| Post #207
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	Haha, yeah it is if the person you are giving it to knows nothing about suggies and is totally not prepared for it... It is sooooo unlike giving a hamster for a present. KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 4 2008, 01:07 PM Return to original view \| Post #208
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(jaswwp @ Jan 4 2008, 01:03 PM) I dont really belive any pet should be given as a present unless you yourself know that the person really wants them. I saw in lyn before where a rabbit was given as a present and ended up dumped into the hutan because the girl didnt like the color. ALso many cases of people reselling the pets they bought for their gf/sibling because " I buy already she/he duwan it" True, I couldn't agree more with you! Giving pets is not such a good idea as we will be toying with their life. Unless we know the person we are giving to is a true pet lover, chances are lame excuses such as "I don't like the color" is bound to be heard... Tsk, tsk, tsk, pity those gift/present pets KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 4 2008, 02:54 PM Return to original view \| Post #209
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 4 2008, 02:30 PM) Are you serious and really will go for it with a letter and a bold front before these people that you only know them by their look? Are you seriously contemplating this? I'm not sure about the letter cuz it would be hard to get back-ups from vets especially. But, I would wanna give them a piece of my mind the next time I am there. I am even prepared if they wanna scold me who am I to teach them... Ohh, if you were to see for yourself the tiny joeys and the condition they are kept in with those huge basking lights, I think you would feel the same way I feel... KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 4 2008, 03:06 PM Return to original view \| Post #210
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	Oh yeah, I know what you mean... They think they work with the animals everyday without proper research also they are so "terrer"... Blerghhh! I still don't like that one not-so-tall-and-quite-dark guy that always jaga Toby Pet section, my husband used to question him on why do they put the lights on the gliders cage, he answered my husband cuz they are cold, rolled his eyes and look away... That is also why I have always felt malas to say anything and do my shopping quickly, cuz the staff there feel they are sooo big! KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 4 2008, 05:37 PM Return to original view \| Post #211
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(slurpee_slushee @ Jan 4 2008, 04:16 PM) not-so-tall-and-quite-dark guy? hmmm. dat guy yg does his work cam kelam kabut like he's sooo busy? Yeah, I think the same guy... He does always seem kelam kabut and like busy konon-konon... QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 4 2008, 04:21 PM) Who's Hun? Let me guess.. is it Cxxxxxxxxx? Added on January 4, 2008, 4:36 pm I think i will try to come up with a spreadsheet on care for gliders this weekend, then one of these fine days, i wil make a trip there and see whether i can persuade them to take off those basking lamp. And try to understand from them why are they selling underaged joeys. Need to slot this in my scedule. I actually have the contact of the head of the Tobypet management a year ago, but hope didn't misplace it somewhere and if possible would like to have a word with him, if he has not resigned. Added on January 4, 2008, 5:09 pmCould it be that they may or may not aware that the lights are detrimental to suggies but in order that they want the spectacle of the suggies to be clear under bright light for people to be able to see the suggies, if the enclosure is dark, so they mount the basking lamp there. A light for display purposes may be fine but if it's excessively bright and affect the suggies, i think we must voice it out then. I think one of these days would like to pop in there and take a look at the condition. Yeah, it is Crazymouse, don't think we need to censor that People do call her by her name Actually I do have a basic caresheet that I compiled and edited from the Suggie Rescue Resource (or something like that)... Infact I had it translated in BM summore... But I feel that it's too long for them to read it and I keep forgetting to print it out Why they are selling under aged joeys? 1) Because the breeder supplies them like that. 2) Because they have constant demand and to wait for the joeys to be fully weaned will cost them money. 3) Because they don't know the actual age of the joey as they are not the ones who witness when the joey OOP. If you can speak to the management, it would be great The basking light is used for the reason that the joeys need heat and indirectly gives them a spotlight too... To me, in short, they're just idiots who claim to love animals but does not even lift a finger to do some research about it. Perhaps for fun (or to boil up your blood), when you are there, pretend to ask them what is a sugar glider, what are they, what do they eat, how to keep them and so on, and see what kind of answers you would get... KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 4 2008, 06:20 PM Return to original view \| Post #212
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 4 2008, 05:56 PM) I just spoke to the manager of Tobypet just now as i'm the type that don't like to wait for tomorrow to get things done. I told him about the lighting. He said that the light they use is the normal light. It's not heating lamp, he said that it's placed at 2 1/2 feet high. Secondly, he said that the joeys from the breeders are weaned, able to take solid food. Then i told him that their eyes are not opened, and he said that they don't want to suffer the loss of income either by getting unweaned joeys. I'm sorry, i'm not able to change the circumstances. 2 and 1/2 ft high? That's total a total bull! Anyone who has been there can tell that it is right on top of the tank cover! A normal light is still blinding to gliders. Plus it is white light not even the warm colored one. NO, the joey are not weaned yet. At that size, they are just appx. 2-3 week out of pouch. They just believe what the breeders told them, cuz like I say, they don't even know when did the joeys OOP actually! And ofcourse when separated from their mother, they will be force to eat something to survive. So they will start eating, little by little. But they will not grow as fast or as big as a joey that is fully weaned and has obtained the right amount of nursing from their mother. Goodness! I feel like smacking the person you spoke to. I think he is saying these because you were not there to see it for yourself to justify back what his explanation to you. If you do get the time to go and if the joeys are still there, you will know what I mean... KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 7 2008, 10:58 AM Return to original view \| Post #213
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(Reanne @ Jan 4 2008, 09:27 PM) I agree that gliders separated too early don't grow as big and as healthy as gliders that were weaned properly. I've encountered some, and they grow really-really slow QUOTE(spinel-sun @ Jan 4 2008, 10:24 PM) idiot fella!!! snuggies sleeping y put the light so close la!!!no brains ar??!! Yep, total no brainer QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Jan 4 2008, 11:25 PM) make online petition ? Online petition is good, it might take their attention. But I'm gonna start by writing an official letter to the management, if that doesn't work, then we go other ways, online petition, the papers... QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 5 2008, 12:16 AM) To people who keep cats and gliders.... really really REALLY BEWARE! Gliders and cats are never safe without us looking out for them. My male glider Jarrah escaped from his cage and got killed by my cat.... so.... a tough lesson.... beware of your pet cat. --- Anyway, see how lah, I will be requesting from my friend to discuss with PLC Singapore if they would let us organize a glider workshop in PLC Malaysia.... coz the Singapore branch kinda controls the Malaysian branch.... see how it goes lah. --- Not Pet Lover.... they are Money lover. Yeah, you need to keep a closer eye on you cat if you have gilders too. --- Great! I think they'd listen more to the big boss in S'pore --- So change from PLC to MLC... Hahaha QUOTE(slurpee_slushee @ Jan 5 2008, 12:21 AM) uhm uhmmm why do they separate some of d suggies there? i saw 2 sgs in d exact same cage as d one they put at d cashier. those 2 sgs were kept in that glass..uhmm..what-do-u-call-it-ey at d back of toby pet where d cages are. those suggies if m not mistaken are not underaged anymore. they look like my slurpee. but those sgs at d cashier are like what u all said. Sometimes the ones that are kept in the glass has been booked or reserved. QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Jan 5 2008, 04:06 AM) anyone up for .. www.safethesuggies.com ?? still available ... Dunno. Lemme check QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 5 2008, 05:16 PM) As per my conversation with the person in charge of Tobypet, we agreed that pets lover and pets dealer are on different ground, as they have rental issues etc to be concerned with. He expressed that they do wish to get good and healthy suggies from his supplier. But it's not their normal way of business to reject unhealthy suggies from the breeder and accept only the healthy suggies only. And they also must get in a considerable amount, no one will be interested to supply if the order is little. Yeah, i do agree with you that they receive what the supplier provides. And " they have constant demand and to wait for the joeys to be fully weaned will cost them money" is probably true. And it's true also that the dealer do not know the actual age of suggie, as he told me that it's not apt to ask the dealer how they breed, age etc.. in business. So when the gliders come from breeder, it comes in all sort of conditions. And he told me that the joeys have a better demand than those fully grown adult gliders, people pursue for babies and no one wants adult gliders, so some ignorant buyer could end up acquiring the underaged ones. Agree. Joeys sell more than adults no doubt about that. They don't question about the health, age and breeding practise. But..... Above all this, can't they atleast make sure the way they keep/care for them at the pet shop is the right/correct way? Can't they atleast provide the correct information about gliders to the customers? They could right... If they know how or want to? This absolutely won't affect their business but rather give them a good image right? QUOTE(buttercup07 @ Jan 6 2008, 05:48 AM) http://www.sugarglidercolors.com/ check this out...pixxies of diff type of suggies... so cute !! Hahaha, yeah, color suggies rock! Pity we can't have them imported here... QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 6 2008, 03:08 PM) OK, here's a picture of my male glider. His name is... ... .. is.. Can't tell. Embarassing you know. Don't have such nice name like yours hehe. Hey, how can you not share your glider's name? It can't be that bad... Share lar Yep, he looks fat to me QUOTE(slurpee_slushee @ Jan 6 2008, 06:09 PM) this morning, d maid told me that slurpee&slushee's cage door was wide open when she came. n it came to my surprise, they were still in d cage. i seriously cant remember whether i closed d door or not. Haha, good gliders! QUOTE(nebcrys @ Jan 7 2008, 01:29 AM) well i was just browsing thru Adpost and the number of people breeding suggies are ALOT! i feel pityful for the lil joeys as many of them have been separated and to be sold off at a very young age. kononnya 2 mths....... tengok gambar kecil gila the suggie! these people have no concern over the suggies! Yep, pitiful... They're concern is only the money, not the suggies... QUOTE(buttercup07 @ Jan 7 2008, 06:02 AM) guys... do u think to buy a bigger cage or to make a bigger cage ? which is d best ? got budget lah..but x byk... btw...where to get good n big cage ?? If you rajin and on budget, you can DIY one, but bear in mind it could be a headache to figure it out perfectly... If you have a bit of money, you can always buy a bigger cage You can check out Pet Safari for bigger cage... Yeah, barang-barang wise, they're okay... QUOTE(silverwineus @ Jan 7 2008, 09:54 AM) I finally figure out PLC Singpore, I think i know. It's People Lepak Center in Singapore, right? HEEE... PLC = Pet Lover's Centre (supposedly lah...) KP Added on January 7, 2008, 11:07 amwww.safethesuggies.com Nope, the URL not working anymore... KP This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jan 7 2008, 11:07 AM
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krynzpeaches	Jan 7 2008, 03:46 PM Return to original view \| Post #214
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Jan 7 2008, 03:17 PM) nolah. what i mean is .. the url is still available. if u wanna make online petition, can use that one. thats my suggestion domain name la .. Ohhh, thot already exist I think if we make exist the website, it would be a bigger thing... It won't just cover PS but all pet shops... And that, I'm not sure all of us can handle yet... We try give them letter 1st, see how it goes... I also wanna offer some voluntary stuff like flyers (I will print/photocopy at my cost and supply to them) and advise/ideas KP This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jan 7 2008, 03:47 PM
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krynzpeaches	Jan 8 2008, 12:19 PM Return to original view \| Post #215
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(buttercup07 @ Jan 7 2008, 09:25 PM) im still figuring on how to actually make doors at d DIY cage.. takut tak jadi oni...btw...which shop in petaling street sells cages ? i mean really big ones....i saw in OU...35.5 x 35.5 x 60.5 = rm 700++ hahahah Ohh, to DIY the door is a bit headache Even I have a rough sketch pun not confident it will turn out nice At Petaling Street, look for the shop that has lotsa birds, that one has big cages... But the biggest pun sama wioth the one at Pet Safari Ikano... The big one you saw at OU, I think at Pet Safari bigger for only RM450... It's the biggest at Pet Safari, can fit 3-4 adult human I assume QUOTE(jinhoe @ Jan 7 2008, 11:52 PM) did anybody went to the kepong carrefour pet shop d? it is called petsmore. go look for the glider, n get info from the seller, n look at the condition of the squirrel too. then leave ur comment here.. they are selling 10months old glider. I think all Carrefour got... All kept in very bad condition. Carrefour Wangsa Maju don't seem to have suggies but they have poor squirrel there... Can't remember the name they stick there... Very sad looking... QUOTE(buttercup07 @ Jan 8 2008, 02:24 AM) would all of u mind posting ur cage pixxie? maybe got 1 i berkenan then can ask where to buy... heheh.. D I Y ka or buy ka...please please please... btw....do they sell cages no 1, 3 n 4 at the first page in petaling street? My current cage pix is in the 1st page This weekend hopefully to get a bigger and better cage! Woohoo! At first wanted to DIY also after to no avail searching for the right cage... Suddenly the one I have been looking for popped-up... So tak jadi nak DIY, better I grab the cage At Petaling Street, the big cages are appx. the size of my current cage cuma the design slightly different and different color KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 8 2008, 04:08 PM Return to original view \| Post #216
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Jan 8 2008, 03:58 PM) well , in my opinion ... in order to make a DIY stuff, u need to actually like doing diy stuff. it will become easier because u are actually enjoying doing it. even i make a cage slowly, its ok .. DIY stuff cant be rush. and dont expect it to be super beautiful . my style is i dont care how it look as long it function well and do the job . that cage in the picture is my 3RD time ! That's my problem... I like to DIY stuff, but it must be superrr perfect to me, or else I won't like to use it Tsk, tsk, tsk... Kekeke KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 8 2008, 04:17 PM Return to original view \| Post #217
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	Kekeke, in the end decided not to DIY anyway... Gonna buy aje But I can share with you the sketch if you want Dah sketch, measure, calculate cost semua dah... But I takut the door become senget or won't work properly... So delay the making a bit... Suddenly found the dream cage Hahaha KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 8 2008, 05:29 PM Return to original view \| Post #218
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Jan 8 2008, 05:01 PM) takpe .. u give me the dimension and sketches ... i make mini one .. now at rumah sewa at seremban .. im kindda miss the noisy wodent wheel noise and barking in 3-4 am .... Okay, nanti I scan and PM to you QUOTE(emino @ Jan 8 2008, 05:07 PM) What dream cage? PICTURES LER!!! Haha~ Pixs... Coming soon! Stay tuned QUOTE(spinel-sun @ Jan 8 2008, 05:23 PM) hmmm..any1 know wat happen to crazymouse?? i PMed her never reply,msg also nv reply..i tink she off few days dy... my dydy wants slurp... hw??? and i dunno hw to make I think she's a bit full handed and busy, she replied dy in her GS thread KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 9 2008, 12:10 PM Return to original view \| Post #219
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	QUOTE(ayiesz @ Jan 8 2008, 06:56 PM) KP, big cage how to bring back ? Ikat atas bumbung kereta... Muahahaha No lah, fold it and somehow fit it in the car lor QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 8 2008, 11:14 PM) Cage cage.... I also found my dream cage like KP.... but then my dad got some issues about the size LOL. Price not bad lah..... affordable, the cage reaches my chin, that's like 4ft already hahah. Dream cage... I can't wait to get it!!! Haha, yeah, initially my husband also got issues with the size, but I explain a whole lot of stuff and helped cleaned their room, so I got a GREEN light! Woot, woot! QUOTE(buttercup07 @ Jan 9 2008, 02:20 AM) i went to pet safari today... got 2 cage now in my list..dunno which one.... --- the side...i like this cage...coz very TINGGI... but the lebar as u can see is not that lebar... what do u guys think? the important is lebar n tinggi rite?? this is rm 250.. --- breeder told them that... the mummy keep them in pouch 1 month..2nd month breeder jaga.. then 2 month genap...they hantar to pet safari....i was like BULLSIT.. GET THE RM250.00 CAGE!!! That's the "Dream Cage"... Muahahaha The RM450 is a little rip-off lar... --- Stoopid Pet Safari will believe everything the so-called-breeder says Stoopid-idiot breeder also dunno how long does the joey stays in the pouch... Bangang tak?? --- About those poor little joeys. I have no comment until I do something about it. It just breaks my heart! QUOTE(Reanne @ Jan 9 2008, 02:37 AM) Goodness, such a horrible set up and the gliders don't look well. I heard from a customer that the staff in PF tried to convince him to buy a glass tank and vine, just like that display, but the customer was smarter than that and kind of ignored the person trying to persuade him. They shouldn't be in the light at all, and seems that there's no hiding spots available for them to shield themselves from the light. WTH? In the pouch for 1 month than the breeder jaga for the second month??? What nonsense, the joey will only come out of the pouch after 2 months unless the dumb breeder pried the joey from the mother's pouch. Insane ppl. A joey should be in the mother's pouch for 2 months, then stay with the mother for another 2 months before it can leave the mother. Even 6-7 weeks oop is still not so bad, but whatever he said is utter nonsense. To me it's, WTF!* I just got more info about the breeders that supply the joeys to Pet Safari and pet shops last night and it is not pretty at all... The one that is ruining the suggies, is the commercial breeders and they are quite a number of them in different locations!!! QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 9 2008, 11:37 AM) Stupid...... dumb dumb dumb staff this time. ----- The RM250 cage, that white tall cage is the best size! Anyone with money, do get that as it is perfect for a pair or even 3. The breeder that is supplying the joeys to Pet Safari is plain money making only. The breeder advice them to feed apples coz his breeding gliders only eat apples and dogfood, nothing else... imagine.... those poor breeding gliders will have shorten lives.... unhealthy bodies from overbreeding..... More than dumb this time... I could say a gazzillion bad words about them... --- YES!!! the "Dream Cage"... --- Refer to what I reply to Reanne about the commercial breeders... I think they are growing like mushrooms! KP
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krynzpeaches	Jan 9 2008, 07:28 PM Return to original view \| Post #220
* k * a * P * i * s * h * ? * Senior Member 2,047 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: Ampang, UK Side ;)	Yup, yup, the white one, RM250!!! ----- Here's the basic suggie care sheet that I've prepared and printed and ready to be distributed Doing some folding now... English and BM together... Should I separate them, cut them off, English-English, BM-BM or leave it? KP Added on January 9, 2008, 7:32 pmBtw, long time no see some pixs Here's Iggy doing his acrobatic move while eating Persimmons in the Flexarium back in my hometown that day KP This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jan 9 2008, 07:32 PM
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