Kenny,

I'm not so sure about the hamster's vitamin... I think wait for Hun to reply Some brands can, but I'm not sure which one

Hi slurpee_slushee aka aimie

Welcome!


KP

Mating normally won't cause till injury lah... Must be fighting over something else...

Yeah, the hungry face look, like sooo desperate for food



All suggies likes hiding in the shirt one. For girl, they ofcourse hang onto the bra or in the middle.

Mine also like to do that and he is a full grown suggie summore

But biting... Err, that one I dunno... Dangerous lor if yours bite like that, summore you know where



Yes, I'd say adult lar cuz suggies mature at age 6-7 months above.

How to get a younger one? How many months consider old?

Meaning you never read and research before getting a suggie

Without the proper knowledge, how are you even gonna keep one?

How to get a younger one? --- Ofcourse you'll have to buy lar... Read up and research on the right age and look at pictures of how a healthy glider should look like.

How many months consider old? --- Gliders can live up to 10 years on avarage, so I'd say 5 years above is consider old.

KP

Slurpee = Pervert...

Hahaha

OMG!!! Is your cage the cage I think it is???

How big is it? Where did you get it?



Hmm, seems like nowadays punya glider don't grow up much eih??

Seems like mine are all giants...



I give my suggies raw sweet peas More crunchier and naturally sweet

I cut/slice the sweet peas smaller, like about 1cm per piece for them to easily grab and munch away.

Sometimes I mix with some chopped carrots so that the greens are more colorful and yummy looking

Hahaha...

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Okay peeps...

When are we going to do a gathering again??

I think the last time I asked Hun said somewhere before or after Christmas... Ooo Hun... When ooo??

Thinking we could do a gathering to meet the old suggie owners and newbies, give out some informational talk/discussion and mebbe include a small sales counter

If the attendance feedback is good, I could call a reporter to do a coverage

What say everybody???


KP

Huge but tak sedar diri, still wanna masuk inside my shirt

Bring to work in the pouch, hang around my neck, feel like wanna patah dy

Haha, blend in the veggie, good idea I dunno what mix flavor to do dah... Scared to many combination won't be too nice wor... But adding a bit of veggie sounds great

Yeah, a gathering just for gliders is fine, no need BBQ also can, mebbe BYOF or snacks ler Or we yam-cha somewhere... Location... Hmmm I have no idea too... Last time when they had the ferret talk at Pet Safari Ikano, have to rent the place ahh??


KP

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Added on December 13, 2007, 1:00 pm

That's why lar, the cheap ones are always adult. We have discussed about it sooo many times also. If looking for cheap gliders, better just wait and save up, nothing good comes cheap.

You can never get a joey for less than RM350 outside.

No, you can't bathe a glider if you are not experience enough or know the right way to do it. Just clean them with baby wipes is sufficient.

Ohh, and work out with the glider you have now before deciding to get another one okay. Don't simply make a mess out of a gliders life. It's not easy for you handle this ONE what more if you wanna keep TWO.

KP

This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Dec 13 2007, 01:03 PM

Arggghhh, it is that cage!

I really like that one! Selling price is RM290 and yes, you can get 5% disc...

So good you got that cage

Yeap, the RM450 got 2 types, I like the biggest one that is black in color which they put little birdies in it... I think that size can fit 4 adults wor... But too huge to be placed indoors

I was in such a dilemma whether to get the like yours, but will probably DIY one soon, cuz RM290 is a bit far fetched for me...

Puppy powder or cat/kitten powder also can. The ones they use for pets and is not harmful. You can try ask when you go to pet shops lar. I got mine a 3 - in - 1, cleans, deodorize and something... Hehe... At cat section in PS.

Sure, when got gathering, everyone is free to join! The more the merrier


KP

The poop looks like hamster poop/lizard poop sometimes small, sometimes larger. The poop is often not smelly unless it's watery (due to the diet given) The pee smells a bit more.

Personally, I too would not encourage keeping gliders at the balcony due to the unpredictable weather we have here. It could be too hot at times and when it is raining and stormy it could be cold and chilly and my most fear is the lightning and sound of thunder.

Keeping them indoors at a well ventilated area is much more recommended.



If you're afraid about your female suggie getting pregnant, perhaps you should consider neutering the male.

Breeding will also make the male produce more musk and marking thus making it smellier.

NO, you should not separate the male if your female is pregnant and has joey(s). Male gliders play a very important role in caring and raising their young. Separation will only cause a lot of stress to them. Should your glider have joey(s), there is nothing to be afraid of or need to take care. Gliders are naturally equip to handle everything and are good parents from the start.



My gliders follow me to work every Tuesday and Thursday and at any other time I feel like bringing them. They follow me almost everywhere I go during the weekends, breakfast, shopping, visiting friends...

They will remain in their pouch sleeping most of the time and doesn't even make a noise except for the occasional bad dream.

I did consider setting up a small cage or flexarium in the office, but since they have never caused me any trouble by being in the pouch or wake up at awkward times, I do not have any cage prepared for them. They stay in the pouch or in my shirt all day during work Follow me to meetings, have lunch outside and teh-tarik sessions... Even the mamak near my place knows about them and will always ask to see "my babies" whenever I bring them along



*whispering* No need a cage, just bring them in the pouch, no one will know/notice, if they ask, just say camera pouch or handphone...





Yup, yup... So long dy since we gather ramai-ramai Okay, we KIV your friend's place cuz at the same time I'm gonna check out another place cuz if possible to open to public too... Wanna create more awareness cuz wanna have a Q & A sessions, guide and so on


KP

Every suggie owner and suggie owner wannabes are most certainly welcomed!


KP

Well, they are not supposed to pee or poo in the pouch because they know they won't dirty their sleeping place, plus they don't do their biz while sleeping maa...

But, depends on some owner and some gliders too...

For example, one glider under my care has never pee or poo while I carry it in the pouch, but when it went to another owner, it pee'd in the pouch while being carried most of the time...


KP

Suggie funds?

Nope.

If we need funds then we gotta collect from everyone who is willing to chip in lor...

Last time was kindda like pot luck, everyone bring food, but it was still a bit unfair as to some spend more than others...

I think if we need to, chipping in cash is better lor


KP

Hahaha

Well as long as your colleagues don't complain, I guess it's fine

My friend brings her hedgie to office once in a blue moon

Anyway, if you're working in Google, you can bring any kind of pet to work


KP

The idea, plan and such already drawn out on papers. Even have the cost calculation if the materials are bought from the hardware shop near my house. What I'm waiting is to check out the material cost in Kelantan how much. If cheaper, I'll get it there, if not or just a wee bit difference, I buy it here lor


KP

Ofcourse, when the cage upgrade is done (be it DIY or buy a cage) I will share it here

About the rashes, do you trim their nails? Trimming their nails can reduce chances of getting scratched or poked onto thus reducing the rashes.

If you let them climb about you, you need to trim their nails atleast once a week. I try and make a point to do it every week, if not, I will end up having rashes too after their climbing sessions

Just yesterday I dunno who left a little scratch on my right hand and it itches like hell. It gets really-really itchy from minor scratches from their nails or the nibbling that Iggy loves to give me What I normally do if this happens after handling them is, wash the itchy part throughly with water and a little soap, let the water run onto you skin for a few seconds and then pat dry... Normally it will go away... But on extreme itchy cases, I will apply some tiger balm onto it after washing my hands... I guess I'm used to it already... Something about their nails and teeth can cause itchiness to me...

Last week, didn't cut Luna's nail for 2 weeks and when she did a dash under my shirt onto my shoulder, she left some lovely itchy red scratches which was also a total pain when I took my shower


KP

Yeap, trimming their nails will help a little.

You Nixoderm. Me tiger balm works best since I was little

Yeah, I dunno if everyone else gets it, but my skin is like that, even cat scratch or playful bites makes my skin itchy as well...

My Iggy loves to nibble-nibble my arm everytime I put my hands/arm in the cage especially feeding time... His nibbles are really little and doesn't really hurt, but just a few seconds later, little red dots will appear and I can't stop scratching it until I have it washed...

Right after long-nailed-Luna-on-my-shoulder incident, my shoulder turned red with little-little scratches to be seen, my husband was like, "what happened to you?" I said "Luna lah, climbed onto my shoulder and left it..."

It's not about being unhygienic at all.

For Malay people, they'd call it "bisa kuku or bisa air liur binatang"...


KP

Very, very liquidish poo, seems uncontrollable and very smelly.

Change the diet as per what Hun has mentioned and perhaps need some vet consultation cuz the vet will give some meds too.



Yeap, we need a thorough planning for the gathering

After Christmas I should be able to plan more actively



Like most people's advise, they can be trained. But my concern is that some gliders won't take it very well and might poo or pee in the pouch due to the discomfort and noise...



Hi!

I don't think that's a good idea... Just like what Reanne has mentioned, might hurt their feet and could cause excessive trimmings too.



My best balm is Tiger Balm... Rwarrr!





Hmm, if no taik mata and such, should be fine I think... When I come across taik mata, I will usually help remove it and my suggies normally understands my finger trying to poke their eyes

Hmm, the site is fine, but I have never came across that concern of breeding anywhere else... Could be the gliders she refers to are wild??

Mine has never had that experience although my Iggy is some sort of a hansap with Luna all the time



Arghhhh! How you do it???

I wanna do it too! But my suggies won't sit still especially not lying on their back



No choice lar, you need to give mealworms cuz it protein. Just mix and fruits won't work that much.

Give lar mealworms, within a week, you'll see the diff!





Check the list of fruits and remarks on the first page. Feeding watermelon and papaya, that is the result.

Try alternating with hard ones like apples and pears.

You give them watery and soft fruits, you'll get watery and soft poo.



Ubi keledek.

The one where the flesh is orange in color



Ditto, slurpee_slushee!

I boil them first, just gave it to them last nite, all gone I can even eat some Schweet!



10-15 mealworms a day... (or up to 20 a day like me )



Ceres.

Berri.

Marigold.

All 100% fruit juice, no added sugar or preservatives



Check the list of fruits and remarks on the first page as a guide.

If it's a little watery and when you feed other fruits it stops, thats fine. If it prolongs to 1 or 2 days even after switching, then it's a problem...

What they poo is what they eat, so watch their diet and things should be fine

Watermelon = Red Poo === Normal ley...

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Sugar gliders are resilient creatures, they don't normally get sick easy if you watch their diet properly and follow the proper hygine care. So far the only trip I made to the vet is for neutering Iggy, not because any of them got sick or what...

However it is such a different case with some other animals, for instance my cat, getting good food, proper hygine and cleaning, grooming and bathing has been to the vet 3 times (almost every 2 weeks) twice because he's sick...

Waaa, headache ooo... My gliders lagi strong worrr


KP

Hun... I'm thinking of setting up a sugar glider fund... The main purpose is to help promote neutering... Can't think of any other reason, but I seriously wanna do something to help promote neutering and help curb excessive sugar glider breeding...

It's very hard to speak to Dr. Yeoh, but left a word and message to his assistant... She said he can't afford to offer special discounts as exotic pets meds are more costly and the surgery is more tedious on small animals... Every care and attention needs to be taken care of...

Anyway, she did say I am still free to discuss again with Dr. Yeoh IF I am able to catch him while he is not busy...

Sighhh... I dunno how else to help lar...


KP

I'm thinking of like a donation fund or buy somethings and a few percent of it goes to the fund... I prefer to sell some stuff and set a few percents of it to the fund.

Eligibility will depend on certain criteria lah and we need to screen them thoroughly. But of course not 100% funded, mebbe offer like 20-40% fund only...



Methods of collecting the fund as per mentioned above.

Transfers, we need to use one account only lar, no need to open an account but a trust worthy account whom can provide the detailed transaction from time to time. Indirectly, mebbe this person will also be the treasury lor



The fund set up as per mentioned above.

Sugar gliders are very resilient creatures, they can with stand the aneasthetic provided it is in the right dosage. Of course it has to be gas form, not needle.

Iggy bounced back from the aneasthetic almost immediately after the surgery. I was already prepared to pick up a knocked-out suggie, but he pop up at me once I opened his pouch



Can say good but gory!

It's also not a must to feed your suggies with pinkies. Just make sure they get enough protein from other sources.

Some suggies don't even like pinkies too.

Personally, I don't feed mine any pinkies at all but look at how big they are



Nope, suggies don't shed their fur.

If untamed/not bonded/improper handling, sure you'll get some biting.

Serious biting problems only occur to untamed suggies.



What sound? Crabbing? Barking?

I'm so used to suggie sounds now that even crabbing rarely startles me

When they crab, I normally try to hush them quietly and tell them there's nothing to be afraid of



In my case, I'd say yes, but partly cause Luna is not entirely tame yet.

She does turn wild on me sometimes, especially when I try to get her back to cage.

Most recent case was yesterday. She was squirming and crabbing and scratching and biting me to let her go...



Both male or female suggies are almost equal in crabbing or attacking if not bonded/tamed properly... Regardless of gender, suggies get along quite well together most of the time

My Iggy (male) is the sweetest suggies ever... Have not crabbed at me for almost a year already ;P

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Traveled back KL from Kelantan last night. Was a very-very long journey, almost 12 hours to be exact.

Left Kelantan at 6 pm. My suggies were still sleeping. They woke up around 10.30 pm and was restless in the pouch. Put them in a slightly bigger case (size of a shoe box)... All they want to do is come out, climbed all over the case and poking for an exit... Finally had to set up their Flexarium in the car as the journey was not ending soon. The Flexarium took up 3/4 of the back seat Arrived KL at 5 am this morning with all of them clambering about in the Flexarium. Once I transfer them to their cage, they were more than happy to be back in their own cage

I'm still pretty much tired of the journey... I think they are too as I found them sleeping soundly before I left to work


KP

The trip was TIRING... 10 hours going and almost 12 hours coming back! Aiyooo, sakit belakang ooo

Have to lah set up the Flexarium, my husband tak bagi roam free in the car, afraid that Iggy will jump flat on his face and might cause accident wor... Plus our air-cond vents are quite big...



Flexarium is not exactly foldable, need to set-up a bit lor... Can be dismantled and kept back in the box easily... A 38 gallon takes about 5-10 mins to set-up

They come in many sizes, but the ones that can fit in a car is the 22 gallon or the 38 gallon only... I don't think the bigger ones can

I'm thinking of getting an Explorarium for emergency cases like last night. They are slightly smaller but pops-up easily


KP

Yeah, veryyy long...

I didn't bring my cat, left it with my best friend to babysit, she's a cat person only, so can't take care of my gliders



Sabah??

Dunno lah...

I know someone from S'wak is getting a suggie, but he is getting it here cuz he is studying here


KP

Can lepas if you put them sleeping in your shirt not pouch... But if they make noise, then you kantoi, kena saman or what, lagi susah...

Better use a proper channel...

Search dulu lah if ada seller kat Sabah... Don't know what are the chances lah


KP

Hamsters don't really make sounds, nevermind...

Suggies, even asleep can make sounds if they dreaming... Not often or sometimes tak pun... But we will never know when...

Put them in your shirt pocket or inside you shirt can easily pass the metal detector as they detect metal only... But I don't wanna risk having my suggies being confiscated if anything happens.


KP