Ohh, forgot to update you.

Will PM you.

Sorry!


KP

Yeah, normally around 7 hours using Gua Musang route. But with the flood and landslide, have to use LPT...


KP

Anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 years.

It all depends on how the person bonds with the glider.


KP

If you are consistent enough and bond with it the right way, should take appx. 2 - 3 weeks... But do remember, bonding also depends on the gliders time and personality, some will bond easily than others, some not. And that is something we can't force.



Night time is their active time. It is NEVER advisable to leave them in the bonding pouch during their active time (which means when they are up and awake) That is why I had to set up their travel cage in the car when they woke up.

Traveling with suggies is always better during the day time. Unless you can provide a sufficient cage/space for them to jump around during night time travel.

They don't do well being confined in the bonding pouch during wake time.



Refer to my answers above.



I always feel that way when visiting pet shops too, but we must refrain ourselves from doing so and think about what will happen if the pet shop thinks by selling pets in poor condition also got buyer, they'll just keep doing so and you wouldn't have the money anymore to save the rest right?



AGREE!



Then you must take her out more often than your male suggie. She needs to get use to a lot of things and more bonding time too. My suggies used to startle easily too, but I just keep bringing them along and just make sure they know they are safe with me. Now its very hard to even startle them anymore



I think when a suggie is ready, they will accept the mealworm readily.

I have never had problems giving mealworms to even a young joey... They just dig it



Padan muka!

Kakakakaka

The oldest rule in the book about approaching animals is : "Never put your finger first in front of ANY type of animal."

I'd imagine if I were there, I'd be laughing my ass off!


KP

Damn pet shops!



KP

Kakaka If we escaped successfully takpe, if not we would make it into the front page news

What fun!

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You can wear perfume, but perfumes will mask your smell and at anytime you don't wear them, they might not recognize you.

Plus, if you often change your perfume type, it will seriously cause confusion to your suggies. So if you wanna wear perfumes, stick to one type and don't wear it too much...

Personally, after having suggies, I don't wear perfumes anymore... I only wear perfumes when I know I'm not going to be around them.


KP

You can refer to the list of fruits and veggie in the 1st page under "diet".

Don't forget to click on the spoiler


KP

For : bubbles11

1) if the sg is already 1 year old, would it be hard to tame n bond again?
Previously owned and tamed or bought as adult at pet shop? Anyway, any age of suggie can be tamed and bonded with, the difference is the time for it to happen and the amount of effort and patience you need. The older the suggie, the more effort and time needed.

2) what is the average maintenance cost for a sg monthly?
Monthly, I would say anywhere between RM30-RM50 depending on the diet you feed as well as the maintenance stuff for their housing. Initial set up would cost a lot more.

3) besides fruits n vege, is there anything else that u feed it with?
1st page has almost all the info

4) can sg be toilet trained?
NO, suggies cannot be toilet trained. They go wherever and whenever they like



Hopefully to update everybody on the gathering next week as I'll check on a place this weekend



What the...

In another small cage in a big cage?? What the hell for?

I so wish I can burn those bad pet shops!





I bet they will

Haha, okay, check your PM

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Last night, I was doing some sewing in the room next to Iggy's when I heard him barking...

At first malas nak layan, but after a few barks, I went to hush him up...

When I enter the room, the cage door was wide open... Iggy was inside and Luna no where in sight...

Rupa-rupanya Luna has escaped and Iggy was kindda looking for her indirectly alerting me...

Immediately when I entered the room he stopped barking. Looked around the room for Luna, lucky she wasn't far, just underneath the cage rack... Persuade her with some mealworms and returned her to the cage. Patted Iggy and said thanks to him for being such a good boy

*It was my mistake too, I forgot to lock the cage after returning Iggy inside *


KP

This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Dec 28 2007, 10:03 AM

If not mistaken it's in Sunway.

I think in the pinned Pet Shop list got the address.


KP

Yup, RM320 is kindda pricey if the gilder has been there for quite some time...

Someone wants to let go of her glider in GS, she said tame and healthy and is selling both for a reasonable price.

Mebbe you can check that out... Advisable to get both from her tho cuz they have been together ever since...


KP

Haha, ermmm, not actually the first time happened

2-3 times already

The last time, Iggy did went out too and had made his way on top of the ironing board, but I'm not so worried if he goes out of the cage cuz it's easy to get him to come back to me... But Luna... Real headache if she got out...

I think last night he didn't go out because he just got back from his free roam time That's how I forgot to lock back the cage...


KP

Yeah, their personalities are as different as the earth and wind...

Yes, they are age compatible. Luna is only appx. 1 month older than Iggy.

As in this month, Luna is appx. 17 months and Iggy is appx. 16 months.

Luna is different and hard because she came from a disordered background. Her prev owner had her since joey but has never taken good care of her. At the age of 9 months, she was still crabby even with her own owner. I took her in when she was 10 months.

Within 1 week she was able to take food from my hand, within 2 weeks she has stopped crabbing at me completely.

She is so disoriented until today. Doesn't like to stay on me, doesn't know how to groom herself properly, still poo and pee in the pouch occasionally... The list does go on for a bit...

She drives me insane sometimes that makes me feel like throwing her out of the window! But I remain patience because she is Iggy's companion and Iggy cares for her so much...

This is what happened when a glider gets neglected from young... And trying to save them needs A LOTTT of patience...



Yeah, if he cannot get Luna to come out from hiding behind the wheel, he will also bark for me to help him get Luna out

Mengada-ngada betul!



Not necessarily. It all depends on the owners upbringing. Plus you must expect one to be different from the other cuz no 2 suggies are alike.



Haha, just leave the stuff in the cage. They will learn to explore it and know how to use it in no time

About feeding yogurt with your finger, the trick is never to let them lick the yogurt till finish on you finger... Always, dip/add more yogurt before they finish it off... This is because it is their instinct to bite whenever the tree sap is finish in order to make it it come out more... So in this case you are like the tree... When you leave the yogurt till totally finish, they will try to bite to make more yogurt come out...



Dunno, ask Hun But I think no more lah at the moment...



Not club exactly, more like where suggie lovers hang out and talk

You're welcomed to join!





Haha, cuteness!!!





I love it when they hand upside down like that

Very cute indeed!



When you get a joey/glider, you become a father, so you will need to shop for baby wipes no doubt

Lucky they don't wear diapers


KP

Monitor the "bump".

DO NOT attempt to open it.

Do you see you female often cleaning her pouch? If yes, than there is a high chance there's a joey or 2.

Monitor and see if the "bump" grows bigger within this 2 weeks.

Funny, breeding males will musk and smell more during the presence of joey/s not no smell at all... At this period, the male will mark all his territory and his family creating a more smelly environment.



There is no BM name for Sugar Glider.

Tikus Mondok is not GP. Tikus Mondok is Mole.

GP is Tikus Belanda.

In the Indonesia, some parts/people call Sugar Gliders - "Anjing Terbang", because they bark and they glide which looks like flying...

The closest description about Sugar Glider in BM is something like "Tupai Terbang", but they aren't from the "Tupai" family...

Hahaha, it's hard to explain in BM, what more to the "kampung" folks...



Normally suggies won't pee and poo in their pouch because they will normally keep their sleeping place clean...

Some reasons they poo and pee in the pouch is,

- They are still too young.
- They are still new to you.
- They are afraid.

Yes, you are definitely welcome to join the gathering



It is very hard to tell when a suggie is pregnant because their gestation period is only 16 days and the size of the joey being in the womb is so little to even see a "bump".

It is also very hard to see the birth of the joey because the whole process is pretty much silent and takes place between morning to evening (it is very rare for them to give birth at night)

Normally when the owner noticed the "bump", the joey is already In the Pouch (IP)

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Yes, it is possible to change their active time, but it takes a while and might not change very much because they can tell when it is daytime and when it is night time.

For example, my gliders used to wake up and be active around 11 pm onwards till 7-8 am the next day. But ever since puasa time, with me being back early for break fast and also waking up early for sahur, their schedule has changed to waking up around 7 pm onwards when it is starting to get dark, active around 2-3 hours, sleep back and up again around 12 am till 6.30-7 am...

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Sighhh, have not had much time to let Iggy roam free since having a cat Pity him, will always jump onto my arm with the hope for me to take him out for a ride...

Feeling bad... Must make it up to him soon...


KP

*Have to split into 2 post... Too many emoticons it said...*

Hahaha, that sounds funny

That is why I would always remind people to do more research before committing to these darling creatures... Being able to keep them for only a few months or even just a year or two is not a good commitment...

Rehabilitating them takes a lot of patience and time... It's not an easy job to the caretaker and the glider itself.


KP

Most likely they won't eat the stuff they see on the floor, however some suggies do nibble and test things out. Be careful of the dust too, they might accidently swallow or inhale it.

Haha, mine all know how to beg to come out or curi2 wanna come out when I feed them...

Nope, their eyes are designed to be sensitive to lights, won't make much difference when they grow up... However they can still adjust to little or brief lights without a problem


KP

Haha, I can do that too! And I can do that with my nose too!

I love giving them a nose rub

Only one time Iggy managed to nip my nose



Look closely, you will see something different and use that to differentiate them...

I can tell all my suggies apart now



Give me RM300 and I'll give you one.



Yes, she is still young and has not learn how to control or poo and pee properly.

Suggies sleep most of the time during the day unless you wake them up. During sleeping they don't normally poo or pee. I bring mine out whole day too and never had any problem.

Yes, they will poo and pee wherever they like including on you. You cannot control this.

I bring mine to work on alternate days. They never disturb me or make any noise, I am the one always disturbing them... A well bonded and tamed suggie will not cause you any trouble if you bring them out in the pouch even for a whole day.



Happy New Year to you too!

She's not pregnant anymore lah, she already has the joeys IP (In Pouch)

When she is up to 5-6 weeks, you can tell roughly how many joey/s are in the pouch by the shape of her pouch.

If the bump is loop sided to one side only, meaning it's only 1 joey. If the bump is balance on both sides and looks like a walnut shape, meaning there's 2 joeys.

The male will know when he has joeys coming. He will be more caring towards the family and usually musk to protect it's territory.

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Was at Pet Safari yesterday.

The joeys there is a heartbreak to look at.

I was minding my business and wanted to leave as soon as possible because I cannot tahan being there longer and not able to do anything...

As I was about to leave, there was a group of people asking the staff at the counter "What is that?" and pointing to the 2 huddled joeys in the glass tank on the counter...

To my surprise, I heard the staff explaining, "Ohh, that is a sugar glider, some sort of squirrel mix with flying fox mix with rodent..."

I was like WTF!!!

Then one of the girl asked again, "Can they stay in air-cond?"

Then the staff answered, "Can, but they need this heating/basking light..." While pointing to the huge basking light on top of the glass tank...

Arghhh, WTF!!!

I chirped in, "Hello, that's wrong lah..." But my voice got drowned by the noise and no one heard me...

Feeling so frustrated, I left hurriedly...

But that totally killed my mood to shop or walk around anymore... I left for home... But all the way back I can't help kicking myself for not really standing up for those poor suggies... I should have voiced out loudly, I should have corrected the staff and told the people the right thing, I should have done something.....

I felt really bad...

I vow to atleast say something loudly the next time I hear/see something wrong...

I would like to encourage all the suggie lovers to do the same too! Say something, voice it out loud... We must do something to create awareness with hope that it will make a little difference to those poor suggies!

KP

This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jan 2 2008, 10:51 AM

Yeah! I totally cannot accept when the staff said sugar glider needs the heat/basking light...

What they think suggies a mix of reptile too???

Stupid people!

Common sense that all big eyes animals are nocturnal and bright lights are a definite NO-NO...

I should have kicked that guy hard on the shin!!!



KP

When we sleep, they are up and active about.

They will be looking for food at this time, hanging about, climbing whatever they can climb, stretching, gliding (if they have the space), grooming and so on.

You can keep them occupied by providing them glider safe toys for their entertainment and exploration, such as some ropes, bird swings, wodent wheel and so on.



OMG!!!

I would love to shout and scold at that guy there and then!!!

Bloody b*****ds!




KP

I think this time is new stock one. Got a few in there. Very sad looking...

That part in Pet Safari is called Toby Reptile, which is under Toby Pets, but all are still under Pet Safari management I think...



Yeah, they'll love the wheel once they know it.

Safest is Wodent Wheel because of the design, size as well as being certified as the only wheel safe for small animals.

If you wanna use other wheel type, make sure it is 12 inch of size, solid running surface, no open gaps that will cause the tail to be caught and the placement of the wheel must be near the ground, but do be careful as injuries could happen with normal wheels.


KP

Not to worry. That's why I mentioned "when they learn to use it, they'll definitely love it."

Some suggies will know how to use it almost the instant you put it in their cage. Some will take time to learn and appreciate it.

Iggy only learned how to use the wheel after a month of trying and jumping off whenever it moves. Now he's a devil on the wheel compared to Luna Will run the fastest he can and does an abrupt break when I approach

Luna accepted the wheel and knows how to use it immediately


KP