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 Dog Kibbles (Discussion), Which brand do you feed your furkid?

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post May 24 2008, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Cannonfodder @ May 23 2008, 12:42 PM)
Pet Safari, Pet Lovers Centre, the SS2 place, didn't maange to find it.

Anybody else know where I can find Innova Evo kibbles for dogs?
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Go to Pet Shack. It is at Sunway Mentari, it is behind the McDonalds that is opposite Sunway Pyramid. I get mine from there but I get the small pack. Got big pack there.
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post May 27 2008, 06:30 PM

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B2B is quite good. It's quite a popular brand, sold only at certain petshops like Pet Family, Pet Epicure.... I don't think Pet Safari has it.
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post May 27 2008, 06:40 PM

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Got pork and chicken variety. Is up to you which to buy.
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post May 28 2008, 02:11 PM

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It is best if when you guys buy dogfood, look out for the words holistic, then check the ingredients for any harmful preservatives.

Back 2 Basics.... I can say one thing.... good dogfood and it can make your dog FAT so anyone with dogs that are big eaters, beware hahaha.

Orijen is ok, but the high protein can make certain dogs get allergies. And it can cause a bit of tearing to certain dogs. Ingredients, this brand has good ingredients.

Now, my bigger dogs on SAVA, not a bad brand, I prefer to Back 2 Basics actually....

For my small dog, she is on BARF, I see so much good improvements that I have never seen in dogfood.
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ May 28 2008, 02:12 PM)
Barf is not for lazy ppl like me, haha.............
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It's not for busy people and also for those with no freezer space. Hahahah.... But for me is cheaper, less than RM100 for my Chelsea, sometimes my meat bill is only Rm60 a month.

QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ May 28 2008, 02:18 PM)
Back 2 Basics does not comes in kibble form right?
If i not mistaken i saw its like some sort of powder form where you need to mix it with water?
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The powdered dogfood is dehydrated food by Addiction. You gotta mix with water for it to become a full meal. Well, it certainly is costly so I have never tried.

Back 2 Basics is kibble form. Oily kibbles, my lab put on weight till can't see much of her waist but it didn't make her shed like she use to. This is the pork variety lah. I think chicken variety should be almost the same. The one thing some people might turn away from Back 2 Basics is the corn in it. Yes, this brand has corn but I think the good type. Get small packs or sample packs before buying a large pack to try. They small packs are 3kg.
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Jun 7 2008, 04:00 PM)
i think i'm gonna change my furkids kibbles brand. They seem to get alot of tear stains and 'eye shit' consuming orijen.
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I'm also experiencing the same thing with you. I think it could be that they changed their ingredients? Coz last time when 1 first bought Orijen, so such thing happen but after getting the newer packaging, start to get alot of tear stains. Since then I have changed to raw feeding, which has improved the tearing a lot and less body odour.
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Jun 8 2008, 02:23 AM)
Yeah!!! I noticed that too. So I'm planning to change to another brand which I dunno what to choose...headache

a friend of mine feed Innova puppy brand to his adult dogs, in a lesser amount than recommended...is it okay to do that?
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Puppy food high in fat. Try to maintain with adult food. He may think it is fine, but when they reach old age.... hard to control the weight and also switching food.

I also wanna look for new brand to use. Well, I feed raw now but sometimes I got emergencies, need dry food on stand by. I may use Innova Evo or some other brand after I browse petshops.
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Jun 8 2008, 03:21 AM)
Innova Evo has high % in protein too right?

When you travel outstation do u bring ur furkids along? Qutie troublesome if feed raw food during travelling right?
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Yah, high protein % too. I got 1 pack now, just haven't try on my Chelsea yet smile.gif

I rarely travel outstation.... but yes, is troublesome loh so that why I must have dry food on stand by. I just like what I see with raw food.... totally stop body odour, now Chelsea's teeth also whiter. Hahaha... too bad I didn't take pictures like those before and after things.
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QUOTE(clementcpteh @ Jun 8 2008, 11:32 AM)
crazymouse_yyh,
Innova Evo dog food is on of great dog food in usa top list. Any command about it, please let me know. I give a contact to you.
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Yes, I know. smile.gif I actually bought Evo for my hedgehogs LOL.... but they can rarely finish 1 pack. 2 years back I tried Evo, just my Chelsea didn't like it. So I'll give it another try.
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QUOTE(clementcpteh @ Jun 8 2008, 01:23 PM)
Nutritional- Proteins

Still many people still doubt what is proteins and how it help your dog? Every dog food have own proteins contain, see at the label. I would like share some information with you.
Here is the basic knowledge of Proteins,  are the foundations for building muscle and connective tissue, They also assist in enzyme and hormone functioning. Proteins are obtained mostly from animal- basic ingredients.
There are high-quality proteins and low-quality proteins. High- quality proteins are those that are used better by the body, and include beef, poultry and lamb. Poorer-quality proteins are those from vegetable sources or meat by products. Though higher is better, more is not, excess proteins in filtered though the kidneys and excreted, and too much proteins make the kidneys work overtime.
Puppy foods should contain about 25 percent protein. Adult dogs need less by % and volume. You will see the stated on the bag of food you buy, the amount may be determined by the growth and activity level of your individual dog.
go consult with you vet or dog food company. You can ask the pet shop who are selling those brand. They cannot give you a right answer, Let Lowyat forum member find the answer of it.
If the person sell dog food cannot give you a right information. Dont buy from them. Report to dog food HQ.
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Yes, I think it really depends on the ingredients. Like when I feed BARF, it is super high in natural proteins, the only carbs I give are in the form of fresh veggie puree and a teaspoon of rolled oats each day. Now, I think where the dog would become fat comes from the fillers..... alot of dogfood contains corn, wheat, rice..... Previously I used brown rice as filler for BARF and man, I could see the difference as she put on weight. As I minus the rice, she became leaner.

One thing I managed to identify that causes tear stains in my Chelsea is Brewers Yeast. Evo doesn't have! I think Orijen has, and that is causing the tear stains, just like Back To Basics.

When choosing dog food, best is to ask from people who have tried the brand than listen to petshops. Sometimes some pet shops would recommend a brand that is not of high quality....

QUOTE(remymj @ Jun 8 2008, 06:20 PM)
my dino also taken orijen right now.
dun have tear stain la but got little bit of eye shit!
really not so good?
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Orijen is good.... it depends on your dog. Some dogs on orijen would get alot of tear stains, like mine loh. Smelly tear stains.... some dogs would get rashes, like Pennywise's westies. So if your dog never show these signs, then ok loh.
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Yah, Acana is good too. I heard puppy food for Acana at 1 pet shop got discount.
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Dogfood reviews is more towards ingredient qualities. To me, take the reviews as a guide, and go with what you can afford and what you think is suitable for your dogs. Now I'm starting Evo, only day 3, along with BARF. Morning meal about 50g of Evo and at night 150g of BARF. Seeing good results as in fur, body odour and teeth when on BARF. Even shedding is not so bad liao. Evo, need to feed my dog for a month to see if it works for my dog or not. Orijen recently did not do good for my dog.
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QUOTE(remymj @ Jul 9 2008, 04:50 PM)
decide wana buy addiction let dino try try!!
duno got how many kg pack o??
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Don't go and buy the big pack straight away lah... later you rugi coz not all dogs like to eat Addiction.... Try with a small pack first.
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Everydog may have some drawbacks with certain food. I do know now that a small percentage of dogs get tear stains and body odour and rashes from eating Orijen, some dogs get constipation from Eukanuba and some can get itching and skin problems from Nutro or ProPac..... but this is coz each dog can react to a particular ingredient..... so if your dog is giving you a bad drawback, then change to another brand. There is no harm if you do it the correct way.

Dogs can get better skin and health conditions if you monitor their food closely. Like for my 1 dog, she cannot take Orijen or Acana or BacktoBasics.... only on BARF and Innova Evo.
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If she is ok, then follow on. I mean, it is up to you but then if you see your dog doing good with the current brand, then there is no need to switch.
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The teeth ah..... big kibbles does help with teeth cleaning, but then the best is actually to give them chew toys, raw bones and we brush their teeth, then sure get sparkling teeth LOL.

My boxer Toby got white teeth coz he chews on his nylon bone alot while my lab Tammy got plaque build up on her back teeth coz she don't chew on her nylon bone. That's the result from eating kibbles.
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Ah? How a dog eat a nylon bone? My dogs chew on it, not eat. Only rawhide is edible. Nylon and rubber is safe if eaten, but only in tiny pieces. If swallow big piece, sure blockage.
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i don't know whether this is the right thread. but how many times you guys feed your puppy once? and the quantity?

feed until he full or just feed little bit only? i heard from petsmore they say the fur will not be nice if given to much food. true?


Well, feeding a puppy, if they are younger than 4 months old, they should have 3 meals a day. This is for me lah. Later I switch it to 2 meals a day since I feed raw food. The quantity, you have to check the packaging as different dog food got different guides. But then it also depends on the puppy. The directions on the packaging acts as a guide. So if it says feed half cup per meal, you pour out half cup and see. If the pup eats everything and acts hungry, then let it be. If it eats only half of the half cup, then just stick to the portion it can finish.

Petsmore say feed too much will have not nice fur? That's the silliest thing I've heard.... It's more like feed too much the pup will become overweight..... Fur, that depends on the genetics of the breed, the quality of the dog food and also the hygiene of the pup.
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Made in Thailand? Could be true coz now alot of dogfood also made in Thailand.... cheap labour.

But change colour? You mean fade the colour of the dog's fur?
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If you think about it, animals cannot make fires to cook food.... so feeding raw food is the best and natural food to me lah.... but if we compare cooked food and raw food to processed dog food.... well, it depends.

High end dogfood is good, examples like Innova Evo and Orijen and Sigma, just to name a few.... but it also depends on our dogs. Some may have allergic reactions. I have tried so many dogfood on my 4 dogs already and after comparing it to raw and cooked food, my dogs do much better on raw food. Summore not choosy. Fur grow nicer, even puppy grow better.

If we give a dog to choose between cooked meat, raw meat and kibbles... obviously dog would go for the raw meat and cooked meat. But doing homecooking needs research yah. Cannot simply give meat and rice. You have to research on what carbohydrate is good, how much protein and organs to give and how much fiber is good enough as well as calcium and vitamin intake and also fatty oils.... canned food is not good to be a staple coz the protein level in canned food is low and it is mainly jelly and water.... it's more like for taste only then to build up a dog's body.

Cooked food with seasonings is one of the worst foods to give our dogs. KFC has garlic powder and onion powder..... both of these are bad for our dogs.... most seasonings for meats have onion powder to give it flavour and onion is toxic to dogs. I know people say is treats and all.... but the amount of salt, oil and seasoning will just cause more damage later on. We cannot see their liver or heart unless we cut them up. So why risk them getting liver and heart disease by giving them bad treats? My dogs get dog treats like in biscuit form that are meant for dogs, cooked chicken pieces, raw fruits and veggies as well as yogurt and dehydrated meat.

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