for campro, yeah it does.... not sure about other engine model tho....

it trow..will JPJ, puspakom allow it?

Campro I take it as S4PH? Have you got the dyno charts? I'd like to see it as some cars don't respond postively to that for example BMW E46 and my Ford Laser 1.8. FC really sucks now since running rich

Fortunately (or unfortunately for the tree huggers), no since it's only mandatory for cars "sold". What you do after that concerns JPJ/Puspakom is "tertakluk kepada pengubahsuaian terhadap sistem ezkos", in other words the piping done since their main concern is noise and leakage

my gen2... hotbit full exhaust... FC more or less the same b4 removing catcon... power sure increase for sure..

i didn't do any dyno...but if u dun mind just head over speedwork site where they have the dyno there...

This post has been edited by eng98: Sep 12 2007, 06:45 PM

OK, a few questions (Just want to know, no offense ok?)

1. Was the O2 sensor plug hole relocated closer to the exhaust section of the engine block compared to ori extractor?
2. Does it take long before petrol smell disappears when starting from cold?
3. Any sluggishness if morning driving before engine reaches full temp?

This post has been edited by almostthere: Sep 12 2007, 06:51 PM

yeah S4PH... after the cat con is taken out... power increase...
i can post some dyno charts of other neo owners who have the cat con removed...

as for me... i not yet remove it yet... cuz i still love the environment


1) the O2 sensor is relocated.....

2 and 3 i cant answer you

1. Cannot answer for this question coz i dunno where the stock O2 locate....
2. can't smell petrol when morning start... starting from cold.. but the auto chock is running normal as the rev is higher den 1k for cold-start
3. nope.. no sluggish.. i kinda rev sometimes becoz late for appointment or breakfast

kcng... O2 relocate ah? i dunno leh

This post has been edited by eng98: Sep 12 2007, 07:06 PM

yeah neo O2 is relocated

gen2 not sure

2. not really, prolly less than 2 minutes

3. a little bit, but once the temp gauge starts moving it's fine

edit: eh crap thought it's the Neo thread nvmlah should be more or less the same since same engine haha

This post has been edited by nerd: Sep 12 2007, 07:09 PM

this is 1 of the sensor.. i dunno previously was there or not leh.. hahaha

cat is what guys ?

catalytic converter.... emission control or something

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Added on September 12, 2007, 7:33 pmon my stock engine....

the O2 is right at the top of the cat con... after relocation... its around the area in the pic that u posted

This post has been edited by kcng: Sep 12 2007, 07:33 PM

kcng u do outside for the relocation?

me belum lagi la



my exhaust still stock

hahhaha.... after changing the exhaust.... ma compressor give me noise already.. haih.. cham...

Thne I understnd why no power loss and no petrol smell. Relocating the O2 sensor closer to the exhaust side of the block is kinda like tricking the ECU you see. Since the heat is radiating from the exhaust header (quite logical) so cold start procedure is hastened (since the sensor will detect hotter gasses which have lower oxygen content) and lesser likelihood of a rich AFR mixture. Thanks for clearing up the doubt and I accept the explanation. Now, to figure how shorten that spaghetti junction of an intake piping

One possible reason is due to less vibration dampening (Since cat tarak edi), pasal tu the compressor vibrating louder. I remember when I swapped out my busted cat, the exhaust brackets had to use thicker bushings since it bloody vibrated loudly

This post has been edited by almostthere: Sep 12 2007, 07:53 PM

[quote=wkho555,Sep 12 2007, 05:42 PM]
choose HL. oledi tinted

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Added on September 12, 2007, 5:43 pm

same. sign all document. waiting car to arrive SA.

When u can get yr car?

oh yah.... y i didn't think of the vibration.... i always think is the heat.. becoz is really really damm hot... but my belt tensioner busted few months later... the bearing making sound... change edi no sound but sound come again but from compressor this time... but now the sound is permenant there edi... like metal scratching sound edi..

den my o2 sensor ok boh??? tot of relocating it again.. lol

This post has been edited by eng98: Sep 12 2007, 08:10 PM

[quote=guviguvi,Sep 12 2007, 08:01 PM]
[quote=wkho555,Sep 12 2007, 05:42 PM]
choose HL. oledi tinted

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Added on September 12, 2007, 5:43 pm

same. sign all document. waiting car to arrive SA.

When u can get yr car?

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should be next week coz proton oledi located my car to my SA. i sign all doc and waiting proton to send car to my SA.

My case diff, car is located at SA already. Waiting all the documentaion work... should be can get the car by this Friday or Next Mon... hehehhee... will post the pic here once i get the car...