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 ◙The New PROTON PERSONA◙ V2, ~Official Thread~

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post Sep 8 2007, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(veron208 @ Sep 8 2007, 01:14 AM)
How is Waja compared to Persona ?
In term of handling & technology, which 1 will be better ?

Did not go through the specs of both car, but I think Waja is heavier and more stable.

Any inputs ?
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waja will handle better....

persona suspension and handling is tuned to bias more towards comfort....
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post Sep 8 2007, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(peYno @ Sep 8 2007, 10:35 AM)
i cant understand mmost malaysian mindset
they always say, if A car released, B car die..
in japan toyota/honda oso produce 3-4 type of models in same segmet.and facelift car every 2 years
so if toyota come out with new estima, then toyota Voxy die???
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dude face it.....

with waja priced so close to the persona... and persona is a newer model....

who do you think malaysian will buy?
persona right?

55k for the highest persona spec vs the waja spec which is going for around 58 - 60k ?
one is a new model and one is on the market for quite some time already

true, waja is one class higher but in malaysian term, pricing matters
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almost same size with waja but cheaper <-- but this almost same size, its subjective according to different individual
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post Sep 8 2007, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(hokuan @ Sep 8 2007, 11:48 AM)
Haha, but I like Waja more, in love with its interior(INTERIOR ONLY)...
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waja interior
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classier lo, cuz got use plastic or soft touch leather to wrap it lo...

but seriously should upgrade the interior further....
i can see so many places that can add chubby holes etc...
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post Sep 8 2007, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(hokuan @ Sep 8 2007, 11:55 AM)
Hmm, they don't have to touch Waja interior, they just ahve to upgrade Persona one,then it will be a perfect car tongue.gif
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hahahha
upgrade the persona interior then the price will also go up
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then hailat.... kena bang left right center for raising price
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post Sep 8 2007, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(hokuan @ Sep 8 2007, 11:59 AM)
Hmm, you're right hmm.gif
Then facelit waja one more time.. thumbup.gif
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masuk V8 engine inside
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post Sep 8 2007, 12:05 PM

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should have just concentrate on the biggest market..which is the mid-sized sedan region.....

diversify too much is not good if the sales is not up to mark....
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post Sep 8 2007, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(paan @ Sep 8 2007, 12:09 PM)
just now im came back from pasar borong kl...im saw quite alot persona....for me...the front grill
look for 1st time is quite nice....then look for 2nd times...still can accept...then look for another times....buruk la pulak....later when im get persona...will do some changes the front grill to look more better la....
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u better not post up pics

later TS vomit more blood because TS not yet get his car yet
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post Sep 8 2007, 12:16 PM

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use persona as a platform to build on from now...

then upgrade the waja with more features and make the interior even classier...

so they will have 2 sedans in the market already....

after all the persona Base line is good enough to be for the lower end market what...

unless the compact sedan pricing has some reasonable gap between the lowest persona range la...
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post Sep 10 2007, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(bobiq @ Sep 10 2007, 10:23 AM)
Sorry for delaying posting the pics,my ML (M) Persona.  biggrin.gif

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5855/dsc00199ho3.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7856/dsc00200oc1.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4079/dsc00201wt1.jpg
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congrats on your new car.....
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update us on the FC, performance and all

thanks...
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post Sep 10 2007, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(leowhy @ Sep 10 2007, 04:42 PM)
well, persona is suppose to be wira's replacement...

so IMHO, anything that is better in persona compare to wira is already consider immediate improvement... smile.gif
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exactly... lol...
just curious how come that forumer suddenly say proton got improvement??
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post Sep 12 2007, 05:09 PM

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saw one black H-Line persona on the way to subang hi-tech just now

owner tukar rim to the exact same rims that the persona envy use
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the car tint until super black some more
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post Sep 12 2007, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Sep 12 2007, 05:57 PM)
So the question to remove cat or not to?

Unless proven with a dyno test that power and torque curve improved by throwing out the cataltytic, I'd say don't.
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for campro, yeah it does.... not sure about other engine model tho....
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post Sep 12 2007, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Sep 12 2007, 06:39 PM)
Campro I take it as S4PH? Have you got the dyno charts? I'd like to see it as some cars don't respond postively to that for example BMW E46 and my Ford Laser 1.8. FC really sucks now since running rich
Fortunately (or unfortunately for the tree huggers), no since it's only mandatory for cars "sold". What you do after that concerns JPJ/Puspakom is "tertakluk kepada pengubahsuaian terhadap sistem ezkos", in other words the piping done since their main concern is noise and leakage
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yeah S4PH... after the cat con is taken out... power increase...
i can post some dyno charts of other neo owners who have the cat con removed...

as for me... i not yet remove it yet... cuz i still love the environment
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Sep 12 2007, 06:51 PM)
OK, a few questions (Just want to know, no offense ok?)

1. Was the O2 sensor plug hole relocated closer to the exhaust section of the engine block compared to ori extractor?
2. Does it take long before petrol smell disappears when starting from cold?
3. Any sluggishness if morning driving before engine reaches full temp?
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1) the O2 sensor is relocated.....

2 and 3 i cant answer you
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post Sep 12 2007, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(eng98 @ Sep 12 2007, 07:03 PM)
1. Cannot answer for this question coz i dunno where the stock O2 locate....
2. can't smell petrol when morning start... starting from cold.. but the auto chock is running normal as the rev is higher den 1k for cold-start
3. nope.. no sluggish.. i kinda rev sometimes becoz late for appointment or breakfast smile.gif

kcng... O2 relocate ah? i dunno leh tongue.gif
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yeah neo O2 is relocated

gen2 not sure
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post Sep 12 2007, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(ataris @ Sep 12 2007, 07:23 PM)
cat is what guys ?
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catalytic converter.... emission control or something
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Added on September 12, 2007, 7:33 pm
QUOTE(eng98 @ Sep 12 2007, 07:09 PM)
this is 1 of the sensor.. i dunno previously was there or not leh.. hahaha
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on my stock engine....

the O2 is right at the top of the cat con... after relocation... its around the area in the pic that u posted

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post Sep 12 2007, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(eng98 @ Sep 12 2007, 07:36 PM)
kcng u do outside for the relocation?
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me belum lagi la
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my exhaust still stock
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post Sep 13 2007, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(bobiq @ Sep 13 2007, 03:38 PM)
soon persona's will be everywhere and ppl will be sick of seeing one. =P
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lol
yeah.... so the first batch owners... faster tayang your car while its still unique on the road
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post Sep 13 2007, 10:04 PM

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now waiting for some owners to start either make it look nicer or beng-ni-fied it with GT Wings
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post Sep 13 2007, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Sep 13 2007, 10:52 PM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  jeles nye.............
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sabar tu bagus dalam bulan yang mulia ni
saber jer ler...
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post Sep 14 2007, 07:52 PM

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i am waiting for BMW
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