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post Jul 14 2021, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Jul 14 2021, 09:28 PM)
Yes, I want to tell them but I was also just wondering if they already know. The reason I was asking is because I would assume that HR / Finance could actually check.
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You need to read your employment contract to see what it says about double employment or moonlighting.

In the case of Cheong Meng Wah & 2 Perayu lain and My Social Network Sdn Bhd (Award no. 3079 of 2018), the contract stated a restriction on the employee to engage in any other business without prior consent from the employer. Upon discovering that its employees have set up their own ecommerce business while still under the employment with the company, the company gave a show cause letter and later dismissed the employees. The issue to be determined by the court was whether the dismissal was just cause or excuse. After considering the facts of the case, the court ruled that the employees have committed a serious misconduct when incorporating another business while they are employed in the company, and thus their dismissal was just cause or excuse.
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post Jul 14 2021, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Jul 14 2021, 09:22 PM)
Yes, while this might seem like the case the reason why I was asking this question is because I do want to honor the policies. When I checked the last time it didn't state anything and truth be told, the reason I am asking is because I want to know if this is something which is allowed. I seem to be getting some saying yes and some saying no. I appreciate the answers and feedback. Thank you.
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Even both companies didn’t stated anything about working dual jobs, it will follow Malaysia labour law by default.
Which means the define working hours are belong to the company and you can’t do other job unless approval given.
If both companies doesn’t crash working their working hours, maybe, I mean just maybe you can pulled this off if both companies didn’t stated any restrictions about working part time/ doing side biz n etc. Some companies even not allowed any of their staffs have any active registered company under their names or at least must declare them upon joining them.
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post Jul 14 2021, 09:52 PM

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post Jul 14 2021, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Jul 14 2021, 09:26 PM)
I want to tell the both of them. The thing is, I am asking this question because I wanted to know if they already know and they are just keeping quiet as it doesn't affect them. My job requires certain technical skills and it is based on achieved KPIs just like most people. Oh and yes, I do think of ways of improving the business for both companies. It actually gives me a better perspective as well.

Not sure if it's a loss for both companies as I believe I am giving more than a 100% for both. The are happy with the results.
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if u are asking for opinions, just keep quiet and perform your best. and no need to tell them. u gain nothing from telling them.
if u tell them the truth, u are just forcing their hand to react, which i think u don't want them to react.
do your best in both companies, after all if they react to ask you, then u have some bargaining power.
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post Jul 14 2021, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Jul 14 2021, 10:35 PM)
if u are asking for opinions, just keep quiet and perform your best. and no need to tell them. u gain nothing from telling them.
if u tell them the truth, u are just forcing their hand to react, which i think u don't want them to react.
do your best in both companies, after all if they react to ask you, then u have some bargaining power.
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I think this best course of action, if one ask, then say you perform your task, hit kpi or whatever.

If you want to conlan7firm, then ask lawyer firm for law intricacies and help you evaluate your contracts.
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post Oct 5 2021, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Jul 14 2021, 07:14 PM)
I checked both company policies and honestly there was nothing stating that however I would also want to be extremely sure as I wouldn't want to jeopardize anything.
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Come, let us know your boss hp number, we can talk to your boss about this
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post Oct 5 2021, 01:13 PM

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Can, and those who working few ft jobs might get backfire.
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post Oct 5 2021, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 5 2021, 01:02 PM)
Come, let us know your boss hp number, we can talk to your boss about this
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Oh no. Please don't do this. I beg you. This is the only job that is putting food on the table. I need to feed myself and my family. Please have a heart. sad.gif
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post Oct 5 2021, 02:17 PM

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you tok kok so much about people not honest, yet u also not honest working with both company. Top kek.
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post Oct 5 2021, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Oct 5 2021, 02:17 PM)
you tok kok so much about people not honest, yet u also not honest working with both company. Top kek.
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I am honest. I work to find people for 4 companies actually. I don't have to lie about it. At least I can be honest and not fake stuff.
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post Oct 5 2021, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 5 2021, 02:43 PM)
I am honest. I work to find people for 4 companies actually. I don't have to lie about it. At least I can be honest and not fake stuff.
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then why u scare if this 2 company found out u working with 2 of them at same time? u said u dint lie? top kek saya putar halim
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post Oct 5 2021, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Oct 5 2021, 04:51 PM)
then why u scare if this 2 company found out u working with 2 of them at same time? u said u dint lie? top kek saya putar halim
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Err, both my bosses know? That's why I am col with it. I did come clean because I don't want any issues. I don't see why I can come clean but everyone else has to hide and justify their lies.
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post Oct 6 2021, 04:03 AM

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Yes but wait till the day when both bosses say WFH is over and you are expected to be in the office tomorrow 9am, where will you go ? Take MC for the other company ?

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post Oct 6 2021, 04:24 AM

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post Oct 6 2021, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 5 2021, 01:52 PM)
Oh no. Please don't do this. I beg you. This is the only job that is putting food on the table. I need to feed myself and my family. Please have a heart. sad.gif
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Most probably boss pay peanut only..you pay peanut you get monkey..monkey cannot duduk diam punya

Buat 2kerja fulltime is very tiring..doesnt matter single or married

If your performance drop, you are busted..and if there is something fishy.. they will start the invertigation lah

If you really need the money, just keep steady.nothing lah..just chill
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post Oct 6 2021, 08:19 AM

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lol of course can.

There is no limit on jobs that you take.

Just the stress and time management you can handle or not.
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post Oct 6 2021, 11:02 PM

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Wah this pakistani dude made so many enemies over the past 2 days.

Banggala
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post Oct 6 2021, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Darkspreader @ Oct 6 2021, 11:02 PM)
Wah this pakistani dude made so many enemies over the past 2 days.

Banggala
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Eh, I am pakistani? LOL

Hahaha, Pakistani and Bangladesh are different countries by the way. Just letting you know. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Oct 6 2021, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 5 2021, 01:52 PM)
Oh no. Please don't do this. I beg you. This is the only job that is putting food on the table. I need to feed myself and my family. Please have a heart. sad.gif
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Oh no please, let us know. We just want to help you. Provider as much details as you can
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post Oct 6 2021, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 6 2021, 11:05 PM)
Eh, I am pakistani? LOL

Hahaha, Pakistani and Bangladesh are different countries by the way. Just letting you know.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Sep 8 2012, 01:01 AM)
I grew up in Malaysia but I am going back to Pakistan soon. I would like to work here but I am considering the lifestyle.
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This one not you? Or another one of your separate personality?

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Pakistani and Bangladesh are different countries by the way. Just letting you know.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif


Huh, where did that come from? Bangga means proud in malay, lah is common malaysian suffix, u misunderstand.

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