they might not drill down yet.

if they suspect, they will do internal investigation and call u up.

how they find out?

EPF, socso and others

exactly...that 8 hours particular working time is specified and need to complied with.

you cannot suka-suka work 8pm-3am and then say you worked 8hours.

This post has been edited by metalfire: Jul 14 2021, 03:46 PM

Let says you have a staff Mr A

I don't think an employer can find out from EPF/Sesco/IRD etc whether other company are paying EPF/Perkeso for A. But they can always hire a private detective if they really wanted to

Ahmad Maslan is pleased reading this tered.

Even if they find out, I'm pretty sure they can't fire you on grounds of having a second job as long as you deliver and produce quality work that satisfies your employer. Don't think it's stated in the law you can't have 2 or more permanent jobs.

got law against working 2 jobs?

unless in contract tnc explicitly state

the thing is TS worked at same time hours for two company

if u CEO, u think its ok?

certainly not mine. but well, i need to comply with it since stated in my work contract. eventhough im working from home during pandemic.

If and when the HR received a CP38 from LHDN for the staff
Not always a sign, but usually is.

This post has been edited by mp3: Jul 14 2021, 04:09 PM

Very simple but wont help those company boss to use this trick.

You mean it's simple to find out?

Yes, this is the main reason why.

Both jobs are full time and both are working from home jobs. Both companies pay EPF & Socso as well.

definitely not ok...and will work against anyone.

HR can hire PI to do background check and their reports are quite comprehensive of cos comes with a price.
Last heard the company suing the employee.

Both jobs are full time and both are working from home jobs. Both companies pay EPF & Socso as well. The time for both jobs are the same 9am- 6pm.

Can we assume both companies do not know that you're two timing them? i.e. both companies think they exclusively hired you for your time 9am-6pm.

While there is no laws against dual employment, there are generally contractual terms that prohibits dual employment, thus if a company finds out about it, action can be taken against you.

Yes, both companies don't know. However I am able to work and produce what is needed. I am really just doing this to provide provision for the family. However I also wanted to know if they would be able to find out because by me wanting to do good I might end up doing bad for myself.

Yes, however I work from home for both companies. Both companies are different and there is no conflict of interest. I produce the work with the results they need. I just wanted to know if they could still find out.

there's the catch...see I already know you two timing already.

Like I said earlier, things are good when all is delivered up to par. When not up to par, and put under microscope, then you will feel who means business.

PI is very efficient in digging up paper trails and will work against you.

That 9am-6pm both sides will get you in the court...simple argument, 1 item cannot have 2 buyers.

This post has been edited by metalfire: Jul 14 2021, 04:31 PM

legit way is no

however it is usually company policy or in your agreement that explicitly state that an employee cannot be engage in other employment.

so you weigh in the risk if someone finds out & able to prove it.

bruh, even if u do accept & sign offer letter...you can just ignore & not join on the first day, there is no legal recourse.

guess what, you can even setup a company SSM and your employer also wont know unless they digdug