There is a conflict of interest, as you are not honouring the labour agreement you signed with both companies. Furthermore, you are using resources from them to benefit the other, data, information, training, etc etc.

Most companies will not allow moonlighting unless it's explicitly approved.

As far as I am aware, kenot. EPF statements are only available to the accountholder

EPF / Perkeso is personal info. The staff must give consent if the employer wants it.

Is like paying salary. Every month employer pay salary, but doesn't mean they can suka suka see the bank balance of the employee bank acc right?

boss close one eye?

20 years ago, i heard despatch guy can work at 2 or 3 company full time

Yes, I agree with you and I was looking at this from a different perspective actually.

It's like I am a service provider and I have 2 clients who need my expertise. Both employers are paying me for services rendered and that there is no conflict as both industries are different. This was just what I had in mind. Thank you for your thoughts on this.

This is what I wanted to find out. I don't think they would be happy knowing I am working 2 jobs even if I was producing the results they want as they would definitely say if I was focused on doing 1 job I would do it way better.

I get what you mean but no information is shared. Both industries and businesses are different. I am using my own expertise to get the work done. This is why I was asking if it would be alright.

You agreed to be paid X amount in exchange for X contribution, such as time, days, results etc.. so contract wise dah not okay.

If you go tell them or they find out, they can terminate you depending on your contract. Law wise, nothing stopping you, work wise, cannot unless agreed in advance.

Just keep your mouth shut and continue but be careful la.

I checked both company policies and honestly there was nothing stating that however I would also want to be extremely sure as I wouldn't want to jeopardize anything.

TS - it doesn't matter industries and nature of business are different. The focal point is you are not honouring the employment contract as stated in the working hours for both sides.
You think they won't find out...wait and see.

Kasi chan lah macha. Your workers probably need the money

Then your HR has gaps in their process & policies

the companies can easily find out u have 2 jobs if they want to. (EPF, SOCSO, DOSH, official position filings, income tax etc, all do not necessary need official access to see data)
if both of them don't care. then u keep doing what u have been doing.

no charges can be charged on u, if they are not rival companies.
worst case scenario is u get fired from both jobs.

btw, u are not focused on both your jobs. most people think about their company after work and think of ways of improvement. (u can choose to believe or not)
so working 2 jobs definitely is causing a loss for both companies.

Unless u take wages in one company

How to work full time for 2 companies leh?
8hrs + 8 hrs =16 hrs a day. It means you do work for 2nd companies while working hour for 1st company.

1 full time + 1 part time a lot of people do. Some terang2 tell boss. Before Covid restrictions lah
9 am to 5 pm -> full time job
6 pm to 10 pm -> part time at shopping center or petrol pump attendant or burger stall assistant or tuition teacher.
Nowadays is grab/foodpanda as side job.

Even then, in the 1st company I worked, my boss was not happy the clerk doing part time at night. Cos the clerk came to work next day tired & do work slower than usual.


This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Jul 14 2021, 08:02 PM

If you work 9-5 in office, then 6-11 in another job. Consider as working 2 jobs?

Yes, while this might seem like the case the reason why I was asking this question is because I do want to honor the policies. When I checked the last time it didn't state anything and truth be told, the reason I am asking is because I want to know if this is something which is allowed. I seem to be getting some saying yes and some saying no. I appreciate the answers and feedback. Thank you.

Yes, this is also considered as 2 jobs.

I want to tell the both of them. The thing is, I am asking this question because I wanted to know if they already know and they are just keeping quiet as it doesn't affect them. My job requires certain technical skills and it is based on achieved KPIs just like most people. Oh and yes, I do think of ways of improving the business for both companies. It actually gives me a better perspective as well.

Not sure if it's a loss for both companies as I believe I am giving more than a 100% for both. The are happy with the results.

Yes, I want to tell them but I was also just wondering if they already know. The reason I was asking is because I would assume that HR / Finance could actually check.