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post Jul 2 2021, 11:18 PM, updated 5y ago

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Man fainted and died suddenly after a meal · Vaccination a day ago

(Shah Alam, 2nd) A 33-year-old Chinese youth from Ipoh fainted and died suddenly after a meal. Friends and family members were shocked because he had just received the AstraZeneca (AZ) vaccine the day before.

The friend of the deceased Liu Yonghui, Mr. Lu, told the Sin Chew Daily that after his friend Liu Yonghui came to Kuala Lumpur from Johor for a meeting in May, he encountered a nationwide lockdown order, so he temporarily stayed in his Damansara. Stay home for homework.

He said that when the government allowed people to apply for AZ vaccine appointments, he and Liu Yonghui both grabbed the appointments, on June 23 and 29, respectively.

He disclosed that Liu Yonghui went to the PWTC vaccination center at 4 pm on the 29th to administer the first dose of AZ vaccine. Although he quickly reacted to arm soreness and fatigue on the same day, he did not experience physical discomfort.

Taking Panadol to sleep and still tired

"Unexpectedly, after Liu Yonghui got up the next day, he reported that he was not sleeping well and his heartbeat seemed to be accelerating, so he went to sleep very late."

Mr. Lu pointed out that because Liu Yonghui felt that he could not sleep well, he took Panadol to continue sleeping.

"Liu Yonghui got up at about 5 in the afternoon, but he still felt tired, his head felt heavy, and not only his left arm (the injection site) was sore, but his left foot also felt sore."

He said that he had advised Liu Yonghui to see a doctor if he felt unwell, especially when he heard that AZ vaccine would have side effects.

"However, Yonghui felt unnecessary at the moment. After all, there was no high fever or no support."

Mr. Lu pointed out that they ordered take-out for dinner at about 7 o'clock and chatted at the table after the meal. They were talking and laughing in the process. Unexpectedly, Liu Yonghui suddenly fainted and dumped his body directly on the table. He managed to lay Liu Yonghui on the ground for cardiopulmonary resuscitation (cpr) and contacted an ambulance.

"The ambulance arrived in about half an hour. The medical staff checked on the spot and confirmed that Yonghui had no intention of skipping the world (note: should be dead)."

Mr. Lu pointed out that the death of his friend was indeed very unexpected, especially his friend's physical condition was good in the past, and occasionally followed to exercise.

The family is shocked by the sudden death of good health

The deceased's brother, Mr. Liu, said that his brother had actually undergone a health check in January this year, and his physical fitness index was very good, and he did not suffer from any chronic diseases.

He said that the sudden death of his younger brother shocked his family, especially the sudden death the day after the vaccination.

He disclosed that his brother had an autopsy afterwards, and according to the hospital's report, it will take 6 months for the test report to be released.

"We don't know whether vaccination is related to sudden death, but we hope that at least we can be wary of everyone. Vaccination sometimes requires consideration of health issues."


EDIT: I shared this news because I thought it's worthy of sharing, not because I anti vaccination. FYI I had my 1st AZ jab in June, waiting for 2nd jab in Aug (I shared my mysejahtera screenshot somewhere in this thread). I fully understand the risk of taking vaccine.

This post has been edited by orangtua: Jul 3 2021, 10:04 AM
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:20 PM

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Suddenly so many AZ bad news...What the fark
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:20 PM)
Suddenly so many AZ bad news...What the fark
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And my second dose appointment is Aug 3.
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM

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me this sunday 1st dose. fark
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM


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post Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM

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oh shit. anybody got their dose and doing good?
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:24 PM

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post Jul 2 2021, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
And my second dose appointment is Aug 3.
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:20 PM)
Suddenly so many AZ bad news...What the fark
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Will gov compensate next of kin ?
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:25 PM

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so might be TTS?
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(ryedrift @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
oh shit. anybody got their dose and doing good?
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:26 PM

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must be because of the meal.. owai... confirm not due to AZ!!

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post Jul 2 2021, 11:26 PM

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if feel unwell, go to doctor immediately
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:26 PM

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Lol nobody died suddenly before AZ exist is it? Next will be "Youth died one second after breathing in O2".
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:27 PM

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not related to vaccine

still for the better good

now u know why Malaysia no death reported on AZ
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:20 PM)
Suddenly so many AZ bad news...What the fark
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Whenever you see bad news, you have to divide it by total jabs/total sample size

in this example, the news is only proof of one death out of 400 million doses by end 2020. this is a very low rate.

People always forget to divide by sample size.
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:28 PM

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post Jul 2 2021, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 2 2021, 11:18 PM)
Thanks for the article. Just had my shot 6 hours ago.
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:29 PM

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inb4 later come out news his death has nothing to do with the vaccine.
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(quikstep @ Jul 2 2021, 11:28 PM)
Thanks for the article. Just had my shot 6 hours ago.
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Not trying to scare off anyone, I myself had my first AZ shot on June 1. Just keep an eye on symptoms and signals, go to nearest hospital if something is not right. You can never be too careful.
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(quikstep @ Jul 2 2021, 11:28 PM)
Thanks for the article. Just had my shot 6 hours ago.
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Me too.

Had mine at 230pm just now.
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:32 PM

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6 months to release a report hahaha. Budak tahun 1 also dun get 2 months to submit simple exercise

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post Jul 2 2021, 11:34 PM

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Just cancelled my AZ vaccination slot.

Won't die if I WFH all year.

Don't want to take chance on this stupid AZ anymore.


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post Jul 2 2021, 11:36 PM

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conveniently this news appeared when i gonna take AZ 2moro
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He disclosed that his brother had an autopsy afterwards, and according to the hospital's report, it will take 6 months for the test report to be released.


lol
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QUOTE(8020life @ Jul 2 2021, 11:24 PM)
Waiting for kkm to come back and say not related to vaccine.
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that would be 4th time denying biggrin.gif
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Correlation =\= causation.
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QUOTE(quikstep @ Jul 2 2021, 11:28 PM)
Thanks for the article. Just had my shot 6 hours ago.
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Jul 3 2021, 12:38 AM)
He disclosed that his brother had an autopsy afterwards, and according to the hospital's report, it will take 6 months for the test report to be released.
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so it is normal for autopsy report need to wait 6 months? reallyyyyY ????
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My friend also had fast heartbeat after AZ jab until admitted into hospital, hover around 120 - 140 until 2nd day, 5 diff doctors went to check his condition, took blood test, did this and that but all result normal, at the end they concluded it as panic attack.

After 3 weeks he still felt weak especially when climbing stair, 1 floor already tired, cannot jogging, random pain on chest area. Went hospital to check again but still cannot find anything wrong.
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AZ death in Malaysia
AZ Malaysia EU not recognize
AZ Japan made suspicious quality

Alright what else ....
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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Jul 2 2021, 11:34 PM)
Just cancelled my AZ vaccination slot.

Won't die if I WFH all year.

Don't want to take chance on this stupid AZ anymore.
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Then you'll be designated for sinovac instead
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QUOTE(shuin1986 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:43 PM)
My friend also had fast heartbeat after AZ jab until admitted into hospital, hover around 120 - 140 until 2nd day, 5 diff doctors went to check his condition, took blood test, did this and that but all result normal, at the end they concluded it as panic attack.

After 3 weeks he still felt weak especially when climbing stair, 1 floor already tired, cannot jogging, random pain on chest area. Went hospital to check again but still cannot find anything wrong.
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QUOTE(ssxxcool @ Jul 2 2021, 11:36 PM)
conveniently this news appeared when i gonna take AZ 2moro
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just like air plane crashed news before you taking the flight
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az? at least you are alive biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PaperClip224 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:37 PM)
KKM Dg Hisham + khairy - dia mati sebab makan terlalu banyak Panadol
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common advise given after jabs is take panadol if felt weird
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QUOTE(Daylight2018 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:46 PM)
Then you'll be designated for sinovac instead
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I will be pleased with that outcome...

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30mins for ambulance.. wow
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relax. the benefits outweighed the risk.
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Feel weird go see a doctor. Side effect is there. Depend on your body can fight it of or not. Healthy doesn't mean you can fight it ownself.
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jul 2 2021, 11:25 PM)
Will gov compensate next of kin ?
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Probably standard answer.

No evidence due to vaccine & still under investigation.
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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
And my second dose appointment is Aug 3.
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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:20 PM)
Suddenly so many AZ bad news...What the fark
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suddenly? worldwide have many reports.
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QUOTE(quikstep @ Jul 2 2021, 11:28 PM)
Thanks for the article. Just had my shot 6 hours ago.
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you'll be fine. stay rested, drink lots of water.
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QUOTE(judas @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
me this sunday 1st dose. fark
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Jul 2 2021, 11:58 PM)
suddenly? worldwide have many reports.
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Bad news..in Taiwan many died after taking Az from Japan
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HK also alot die bcoz AZ
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my mum one day fever only,.. afterwards can drive to pasar liao,..
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leg sore... a kind of early symptom of blood clot...
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thanks TS for the negative news...my first jab of AZ on 14 july

anyone cancel their appointment because of all the negative news?

im scared dy
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It will b denied. It gona said he died cuz mati bila2 masa 100%.
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No wonder Japanese don't want, gave it to us free. Instead of protection from the covid19 but died from the jab.
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Ah.. so this was the news that some forumers said it was his friend?
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QUOTE(kel32 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:48 PM)
common advise given after jabs is take panadol if felt weird
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if headache must straight hospital.
blood clot in brain maybe.
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QUOTE(jueiri @ Jul 3 2021, 12:04 AM)
It will b denied. It gona said he died cuz mati bila2 masa 100%.
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How often do 33yo healthy no issues at all male die suddenly?
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Question. How he can go out and eat with friends?
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QUOTE(shuin1986 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:43 PM)
My friend also had fast heartbeat after AZ jab until admitted into hospital, hover around 120 - 140 until 2nd day, 5 diff doctors went to check his condition, took blood test, did this and that but all result normal, at the end they concluded it as panic attack.

After 3 weeks he still felt weak especially when climbing stair, 1 floor already tired, cannot jogging, random pain on chest area. Went hospital to check again but still cannot find anything wrong.
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Biase lah malaysia standsd. Wat wud ya expect doctor to find?
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Jul 3 2021, 12:06 AM)
if headache must straight hospital.
blood clot in brain maybe.
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Headache could also be stroke or aneurysm.
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How often do 33yo healthy no issues at all male  die suddenly?
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he cucuk similar time with me...

first monday..

the symptom seem similar..

just lucky i am not collapsed after got that damn fever..

now i keep wondering if i wanna take 2nd shot..

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QUOTE(jueiri @ Jul 3 2021, 12:04 AM)
It will b denied. It gona said he died cuz mati bila2 masa 100%.
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Sudah sampai ajal. Natural selection. Case closed

U to fight the case? Its gonna took long and dedicated doktor to do postmorten . And list of good lawyers
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cukurr i just got body heat only, head no fever no dizzy at all, still can sleep well, no panadol taken

in fact, the last fever i had felt even worse

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QUOTE(doomvein @ Jul 3 2021, 12:09 AM)
he cucuk similar time with me...

first monday..

the symptom seem similar..

just lucky i am not collapsed after got that damn fever..

now i keep wondering if i wanna take 2nd shot..
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Eh if anyone wants to cancel AZ, I know people who wants it.

Anyway, my mom took, no issues. My MIL took, no issues. I took, no issues. I got a bunch if friends who took, also no issues. A bit of muscle ache and fever 2 days like that, all recovered.


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QUOTE(Daylight2018 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:46 PM)
Then you'll be designated for sinovac instead
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I want. If reject mRNA or viral vector then can get Sinovac? If confirm can then I give consent.
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I cucuk may 27th, until today tongue still numb smile.gif))
Cucuk left side still feel weird especially my arm and shoulder.
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QUOTE(gahpadu @ Jul 3 2021, 12:13 AM)
Normally 2nd dose were worsen
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Some body here said that second dose adverse reaction for AZ is less severe.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jul 3 2021, 12:16 AM)
Some body here said that second dose adverse reaction for AZ is less severe.
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QUOTE(whit3feather @ Jul 3 2021, 12:16 AM)
I cucuk may 27th, until today tongue still numb smile.gif))
Cucuk left side still feel weird especially my arm and shoulder.
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You cucuk vaccine ke cucuk vietmoi. Perang lidah sampai numb?
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QUOTE(whit3feather @ Jul 3 2021, 12:16 AM)
I cucuk may 27th, until today tongue still numb smile.gif))
Cucuk left side still feel weird especially my arm and shoulder.
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Dude. You need to go see a doctor ASAP.

Having tongue numbness is a sign of intra cranial pressure or bells palsy
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Dude. You need to go see a doctor ASAP.

Having tongue numbness is a sign of intra cranial pressure or bells palsy
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But when more and more young healthy people die after vaccination, it's harder to deny a link.
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What do you gain for a lost life if it really due to 2nd AZ? To prove a point to the rest?
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We have one autistic ktard who want to see people die from AstraZeneca

New storyline emerged: this ktard already got Pfizer and feel great and elite about it Pfizer. And he want to see people who get AZ die to feel good about himself getting Pfizer.
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This is new to me, but I am interested in Malaysians dying of blood clot due to AstraZeneca jab.  biggrin.gif
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me this sunday 1st dose. fark
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When old people die after vaccination, it's easy for them to blame comorbidities.

But when more and more young healthy people die after vaccination, it's harder to deny a link.
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ya but low number only
sacrifice a bit can help the world
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Polis is coming here. KJ already said the source must be confirmed before saying the death is caused by vaccination.
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ya but low number only
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Waaaa... That day u bising raynman said want to see more die after AZ.

Now u say people die after AZ is ok.

Hypocrite.
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what he eats..?
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And my second dose appointment is Aug 3.
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Gib to young guy dulu.. after all they're the future..
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Dah tua no need vaccine le..

Gib to young guy dulu.. after all they're the future..
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UK itself doesnt recommend AZ for their young...
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my boss took AZ 2 months back. next day after the jab came to meeting liao like nothing.
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Sohai ktards keep saying take panadol after vaccination.

Got heart problems straight go see doctor la.
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Took first dose 17th may, still surviving. 2nd dose 19th jul
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Great ts. Now you fucuk our country. We are doomed lads.. how to accelerate vaxx rate like this? Gg.
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6 months to release a report hahaha. Budak tahun 1 also dun get 2 months to submit simple exercise

dun blame unker for being a antivaxx nao.
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And my second dose appointment is Aug 3.
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UK itself doesnt recommend AZ for their young...
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Meaning it is purposely invented to wipe down the oldies?😱
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1st dose AZ, 2nd dose sino, you onz? laugh.gif
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Can, consider doing like Singapore, give sinovac for those who allergic reaction after Pfizer first jab
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5164702&hl=
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Can, consider doing like Singapore, give sinovac for those who allergic reaction after Pfizer first jab
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5164702&hl=
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Pembaris Digi Hitler will forever by the book, wait 10,000 years for WHO say ok then only he ok.


After all no link ma no link. Just cucuk and pray la.

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Just cancelled my AZ vaccination slot.

Won't die if I WFH all year.

Don't want to take chance on this stupid AZ anymore.
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Great ts. Now you fucuk our country. We are doomed lads.. how to accelerate vaxx rate like this? Gg.
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My friend also had fast heartbeat after AZ jab until admitted into hospital, hover around 120 - 140 until 2nd day, 5 diff doctors went to check his condition, took blood test, did this and that but all result normal, at the end they concluded it as panic attack.

After 3 weeks he still felt weak especially when climbing stair, 1 floor already tired, cannot jogging, random pain on chest area. Went hospital to check again but still cannot find anything wrong.
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Sounds like long covid. hmm.gif
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I already took my first AZ jab and will be taking my 2nd in Aug. Have you?

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I already took my first AZ jab and will be taking my 2nd in Aug. Have you?

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Mine coming soon. But people are cancelling here what you gonna say?

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thanks TS for the negative news...my first jab of AZ on 14 july

anyone cancel their appointment because of all the negative news?

im scared dy
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Why all over the world got reports of blood clots u not scared?


Wait got local case then only u scared?

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u orang tua, xde masalah, mostly. immune system sudah less active. less reactogenicity.
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Maybe lor, didn't really feel any side effects except some soreness at injection spot.
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me this sunday 1st dose. fark
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I believe everyone has the rights to get information and make own decision. I read a lot of news (both positive and negative) and I made the decision to take AZ when I had the opportunity.
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Pfft ktards only highlights about AZ which funny coz the information damn easy to find about AZ.

Where other info about SINO coz they simply swiped the info away from masses.


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Will gov compensate next of kin ?
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More likely they'll taichi. It isn't about the compensation, but more like they can't openly admit vaccination is causing deaths right now, when our vaccination is just bout to pick up the pace.
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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 3 2021, 01:39 AM)
I believe everyone has the rights to get information and make own decision. I read a lot of news (both positive and negative) and I made the decision to take AZ when I had the opportunity.
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Same, I read all the vaccine related news since April onwards and I decided to go for Sinovac and inactivated vaccine for myself.
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Same, I read all the vaccine related news since April onwards and I decided to go for Sinovac and inactivated vaccine for myself.
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yes.

the old tech vaccine is still the best
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Pfft ktards only highlights about AZ which funny coz the information damn easy to find about AZ.

Where other info about SINO coz they simply swiped the info away from masses.
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I posted this before, about mRNA vaccines

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5156666&hl=
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yes.

the old tech vaccine is still the best
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I posted this before, about mRNA vaccines

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5156666&hl=
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Sino not mRNA. I don’t mind whatever people wanna take just take at least hope the fuxking thing just being effective not just hoo haa yea I’m vaccinated next thing we know Covid is back
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Kan dah cakap AZ untuk orang tua
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Malaysians are a special breed. tongue.gif

Western countries say don't recommend AZ for young people, but young Malaysians go line up for AZ. biggrin.gif
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Still safe for elderly.
Risks outweigh benefits.
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Same, I read all the vaccine related news since April onwards and I decided to go for Sinovac and inactivated vaccine for myself.
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Bising la u. Cucuk already or not? "Carrot" is coming...
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Sino not mRNA. I don’t mind whatever people wanna take just take at least hope the fuxking thing just being effective not just hoo haa yea I’m vaccinated next thing we know Covid is back
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I was referring to this

QUOTE(humanisterz4804 @ Jul 3 2021, 01:43 AM)
Pfft ktards only highlights about AZ which funny coz the information damn easy to find about AZ.

Where other info about SINO coz they simply swiped the info away from masses.
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There is this ongoing ccp vs amdk war here and most of them are just retards. Why bother? Just make your own decision.

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Sure they will taichi for other causes like stroke
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Malaysians are a special breed.  tongue.gif

Western countries say don't recommend AZ for young people, but young Malaysians go line up for AZ.  biggrin.gif
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Kena game by cury
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Polis is coming here. KJ already said the source must be confirmed before saying the death is caused by vaccination.
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If gomen can taichi every times say non of those deaths after vaccinations are caused by it, then we can taichi our way too.

Don't say it is caused by vaccination, just stressing that he died after vaccination. icon_idea.gif
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I was referring to this
There is this ongoing ccp vs amdk war here and most of them are just retards. Why bother? Just make your own decision.
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But this kind of this sh.it sharing people here don’t have critical thinking enough to weigh what’s important what’s not.

Just hope next ICU don’t blow up coz so many rejecting
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Sure they will taichi for other causes like stroke
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Stroke is blood clot in the brain, right?

AZ known to cause blood clot in the brain...
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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
And my second dose appointment is Aug 3.
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I read AZ normally second dose is ok

QUOTE(ryedrift @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
oh shit. anybody got their dose and doing good?
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Yeah got mine on Tuesday and then dengue/malaria like fever on Wednesday. Recovered on Thursday.


QUOTE(shuin1986 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:43 PM)
My friend also had fast heartbeat after AZ jab until admitted into hospital, hover around 120 - 140 until 2nd day, 5 diff doctors went to check his condition, took blood test, did this and that but all result normal, at the end they concluded it as panic attack.

After 3 weeks he still felt weak especially when climbing stair, 1 floor already tired, cannot jogging, random pain on chest area. Went hospital to check again but still cannot find anything wrong.
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Ur friend did the right thing. Any heart pain/breathing difficulties after vaccination straight go hospital check

QUOTE(Noryume @ Jul 2 2021, 11:57 PM)
Feel weird go see a doctor. Side effect is there. Depend on your body can fight it of or not. Healthy doesn't mean you can fight it ownself.
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Agreed

QUOTE(doomvein @ Jul 3 2021, 12:09 AM)
he cucuk similar time with me...

first monday..

the symptom seem similar..

just lucky i am not collapsed after got that damn fever..

now i keep wondering if i wanna take 2nd shot..
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Afaik all AZ deaths happen after first dose and second dose is less effect it’s different from the other vaccines where second dose is worse than first.
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QUOTE(humanisterz4804 @ Jul 3 2021, 01:56 AM)
But this kind of this sh.it sharing people here don’t have critical thinking enough to weigh what’s important what’s not.

Just hope next ICU don’t blow up coz so many rejecting
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I believe most /ktards are just trolling around here. If ppl really make life decisions based on /k posts then they deserve whatever shit coming their way.
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Bising la u. Cucuk already or not? "Carrot" is coming...
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parents already cucuk. Based on best available knowledge in May, I was confident AZ was safe enough for my 70 year old age bracket parents, but not for myself. Deswai I helped them register for the first round opt-in then and am continuing to wait for sinovac slot for myself.

Ofc if the decision was based on todays news....especially Japan sourced AZ and the reports from Taiwan...I might have made a different decision.
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Government don't want pay, AIA will pay?

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 3 2021, 01:58 AM)
Stroke is blood clot in the brain, right?

AZ known to cause blood clot in the brain...
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Yup..knew a case..dad's friend (active jogger)
Veteran but very fit
2 days aft AZ shot...passed away
Hospital said bleeding stroke
Remember the national archer athlete too?
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Thanks for the article. Just had my shot 6 hours ago.
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Good luck...

If u have rest well, shouldn't be a problem...

Did the deceased stayed up late recently to watch Euro 2020 like straight few nights? I mean, the vaccine gonna drain ur a lot of your body energy, couple with tired body, there's a risk though...
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I believe most /ktards are just trolling around here. If ppl really make life decisions based on /k posts then they deserve whatever shit coming their way.
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Just hope it just a troll coz if people actually doing it then we’re fucked. There’s reason why we need majority to vax. You alone take the vac means nothing. Or else we doom
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jul 3 2021, 01:59 AM)
parents already cucuk. Based on best available knowledge in May, I was confident AZ was safe enough for my 70 year old age bracket parents, but not for myself. Deswai I helped them register for the first round opt-in then and am continuing to wait for sinovac slot for myself.

Ofc if the decision was based on todays news....especially Japan sourced AZ and the reports from Taiwan...I might have made a different decision.
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Hopefully it's really true that 2nd dose of AZ has milder side effects...
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 3 2021, 02:00 AM)
Yup..knew a case..dad's friend (active jogger)
Veteran but very fit
2 days aft AZ shot...passed away
Hospital said bleeding stroke
Remember the national archer athlete too?
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Yes.

Semua no link no link.


Vaccine Nazis will always say risk < benefit.


But the risks are not the same for every individual. 2 years of data show more than 80% who die from covid have comorbidities. More than 70% are above age 60, and less than 3% are below age 30. And the majority of those below age 30 who died had obesity or asthma.


If you're young and healthy, it's possible your risk of dying because of the v*****e is higher than your risk of dying from covid.


But vaccine Nazis say everyone's risk is the same.

It's like saying car driver and moto rider have the same risks of dying on the road.

It's fucking stupid.
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240 deaths / 1 mil is only 0.02 percent brah..
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Sinovac vs AZ vs pfizer which one better
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A few weeks after my first AZ dose I had a frightening episode. Never had it in my life.

Was watching TV late night and out of nowhere I had a coughing fit and then momentarily couldn't breathe. Couldn't draw air into my lungs and I was gasping for my life.

Luckily it cleared after about 5-10 seconds but I was pretty sure that was the end of my life then if I couldn't breathe. Nothing since and not even sure if it's related to the vaccine.
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QUOTE(kingz113 @ Jul 3 2021, 02:13 AM)
Healthy male in 30s with no comorbidities.

A few weeks after my first AZ dose I had a frightening episode. Never had it in my life.

Was watching TV late night and out of nowhere I had a coughing fit and then momentarily couldn't breathe. Couldn't draw air into my lungs and I was gasping for my life.

Luckily it cleared after about 5-10 seconds but I was pretty sure that was the end of my life then if I couldn't breathe. Nothing since and not even sure if it's related to the vaccine.
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wow...AZ's side effect quite serious i heard?...just sharing what my aunt went thru, she's 50, she had the worst fever of her life for two days and almost called ambulance since the condition is unbearable..luckily she survived.
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240 deaths / 1 mil is only 0.02 percent brah..
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I mean if u kena that still 100% no?
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wow...AZ's side effect quite serious i heard?...just sharing what my aunt went thru, she's 50, she had the worst fever of her life for two days and almost called ambulance since the condition is unbearable..luckily she survived.
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I'm not sure if it's related to the vaccine. It happened a good 4-6 weeks after my first dose and I can't remember when. All good now though.
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Normally 2nd dose were worsen
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jul 3 2021, 12:16 AM)
Some body here said that second dose adverse reaction for AZ is less severe.
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My brother took AZ 2nd jab d at London...

He said 2nd jab is better than 1st jab... he felt like shit after 1st jab, but is relatively ok after 2nd.
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wow...AZ's side effect quite serious i heard?...just sharing what my aunt went thru, she's 50, she had the worst fever of her life for two days and almost called ambulance since the condition is unbearable..luckily she survived.
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Perlindungan vaccine injury mana?  cry.gif
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Sinovac vs AZ vs pfizer which one better
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240 deaths / 1 mil is only 0.02 percent brah..
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And people still want to cucuk their children.

Fucking crazy.

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QUOTE(kingz113 @ Jul 3 2021, 02:13 AM)
Healthy male in 30s with no comorbidities.

A few weeks after my first AZ dose I had a frightening episode. Never had it in my life.

Was watching TV late night and out of nowhere I had a coughing fit and then momentarily couldn't breathe. Couldn't draw air into my lungs and I was gasping for my life.

Luckily it cleared after about 5-10 seconds but I was pretty sure that was the end of my life then if I couldn't breathe. Nothing since and not even sure if it's related to the vaccine.
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Dude. You need to go see a doctor ASAP.

Having tongue numbness is a sign of intra cranial pressure or bells palsy
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No wonder Malaysia so few reports of adverse events after vaccination...

Everybody just ignore their symptoms and take Panadol...
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 3 2021, 02:00 AM)
Yup..knew a case..dad's friend (active jogger)
Veteran but very fit
2 days aft AZ shot...passed away
Hospital said bleeding stroke
Remember the national archer athlete too?
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Malaysia is mourning the death of two-time Olympic archer Haziq Kamaruddin, who died at the age of 27 on Friday morning after collapsing at his home.
Social media erupted with speculation that his death was linked to the Pfizer-BioNTech for Covid-19 he recently received. However, the Healthy Ministry said on Saturday that a postmortem found he had died of a blocked coronary artery and there was no evidence of a link to the vaccine.

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Seram plak aku nak amik...haritu 1st dose pon demam teruk
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Rumours that women take contraceptives and ppl with blood related issues high risk to mrna vaccine.
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4pm dose on 29th, died 7pm on 30th June. Very similar timing to the old aunty in spore.
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Yup..knew a case..dad's friend (active jogger)
Veteran but very fit
2 days aft AZ shot...passed away
Hospital said bleeding stroke
Remember the national archer athlete too?
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Dude. Don't simply tokok lah. The national archer took Pfizer. Not AZ.  doh.gif
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Stuck at home for so long till causing me anxiety out of blue.

And now this vaccine with so many horror story.

Fuck me. Im dead.
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This guy first dose?
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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:20 PM)
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Lol nobody died suddenly before AZ exist is it? Next will be "Youth died one second after breathing in O2".
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The way the people think these days is funny

I believe one day of a person to the jab .
Next day he walking accidentally fall into the longkang and rip, these ppl will blame the jab.
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Dun chu worry. The fella "sure" got hidden disease, heart attack, high BP, high cholesterol etc.

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His heartbeat seemed to be accelerating

If your heartbeat is accelerating, see doctor
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is it pulmonary embolism?
fuck im gonna do a d-dimer test 1st day after my jab
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 2 2021, 07:08 AM)
Waaaa... That day u bising raynman said want to see more die after AZ.

Now u say people die after AZ is ok.

Hypocrite.
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food poison/reaction/allergen....but not AZ ?....
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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
And my second dose appointment is Aug 3.
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me this sunday 1st dose. fark
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Jul 3 2021, 06:52 AM)
Dun chu worry. The fella "sure" got hidden disease, heart attack, high BP, high cholesterol etc.

Lel
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Blame the meal la bodo
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the mind control the body

the mind keep telling the body you will die you will die the body follow la

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jul 3 2021, 08:31 AM)
Bro., it very dangerous to write like that because that would imply indirectly that our professional authorities are involved in forgery. Later you might get an invitation to yum cha then you know.
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Recent Miri mother case, heart attack. A nurse also kena frm Pfizer. And many more.

You can guarantee that vaccine don't have any effect? mRNA will trigger protein spike, so can all doctor guarantee semua orang will not effected?

Different people differ on the vaccine reaction. I don't think there 100% cucuk vaccine no problem.

Even sinovac also there no confirmation that don't had reaction.

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Jul 3 2021, 08:35 AM)
Recent Miri mother case, heart attack. A nurse also kena frm Pfizer. And many more.

You can guarantee that vaccine don't have any effect? mRNA will trigger protein spike, so can all doctor guarantee semua orang will not effected?

Different people differ on the vaccine reaction. I don't think there 100% cucuk vaccine no problem.

Even sinovac also there no confirmation that don't had reaction.
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Bro., I don't think anyone is able to guarantee anything at this moment simply because these drugs are now being tested live trials.

In the other past cases there are comorbidities to blame on but now in this particular case its a fit healthy adult until it is proven otherwise.
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QUOTE(ryedrift @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
oh shit. anybody got their dose and doing good?
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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Jul 2 2021, 11:27 PM)
Whenever you see bad news, you have to divide it by total jabs/total sample size

in this example, the news is only proof of one death out of 400 million doses by end 2020. this is a very low rate.

People always forget to divide by sample size.
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That's where the statistics fail as it treats human lives as nothing more than a number in an always-disputed sample.

Similar to MH370 or MH17, it's merely hundreds of lives out of many million passengers in the flights. Not even 0.1%. The flights are still the safest compared to riding in a car.

In fact, one life lost is a lost life forever.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jul 3 2021, 08:40 AM)
Bro., I don't think anyone is able to guarantee anything at this moment simply because these drugs are now being tested live trials.

In the other past cases there are comorbidities to blame on but now in this particular case its a fit healthy adult until it is proven otherwise.
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As u said there had some percentage of unforeseen circumstances, while the rest go figure.
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That's where the statistics fail as it treats human lives as nothing more than a number in an always-disputed sample.

Similar to MH370 or MH17, it's merely hundreds of lives out of many million passengers in the flights. Not even 0.1%. The flights are still the safest compared to riding in a car.

In fact, one life lost is a lost life forever.
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is it pulmonary embolism?
fuck im gonna do a d-dimer test 1st day after my jab
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Human is always number

Only you make it so big 😂

We are just speck of dust
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6months needed for a report? Really?
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Sigh... Guess I'm walking to lethal injection execution on Monday in PWTC.

Nice knowing you guys. Bon Voyage.
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Had my AZ 2 days ago and I have symptoms of all the above.. pray for me
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Sigh... Guess I'm walking to lethal injection execution on Monday in PWTC.

Nice knowing you guys. Bon Voyage.
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QUOTE(mirzan007 @ Jul 3 2021, 08:57 AM)
Had my AZ 2 days ago and I have symptoms of all the above.. pray for me
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Look at the bright side, if you do go to heaven, at least you won't have to put up with our meritless government and their nonsense anymore.
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he went to sleep very late.

Maybe this is the cause
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Sigh... Guess I'm walking to lethal injection execution on Monday in PWTC.

Nice knowing you guys. Bon Voyage.
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Diet is the keyword.

2 weeks before the first dose, need to maintain a healthy diet and drink lots of water.

In my case, I drank green tea for the last 3 months daily and up to 4 times daily. No sugared water except 1-2 times per week. No coffee too. And no bubble tea also.

As for food, I had mostly home-cooked food at home. Only once a week had instant noodles or fast food like McD or BK. No mamak or oily kampung foods.

As for excise, I had none. Only few walks up and down the stairs daily. No going out because no taman in my area and don't want to risk paying any saman.

My only allergy is shelled seafoods like prawn or lobster. I stayed clear from those for almost a year already. If I had those, the skin will be itchy for days.

Lastly, need plenty of sleep and rest. Since my company unable to operate, I mostly slept early till 10am the very next day.

After first dose of AZ, I felt tired and slept for nearly 12 hours. Woke up with a headache. Took 4 tablets of Panadol and all ok.
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The Japanese don't want AZ for a reason.
Unless you are super healthy go for AZ but more than half of Malaysian are obese, so you know how healthy we are.
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QUOTE(judas @ Jul 3 2021, 07:44 AM)
is it pulmonary embolism?
fuck im gonna do a d-dimer test 1st day after my jab
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Im around this guy's age.. i took my first dose about 2 weeks ago and I really felt like im gonna die of the headache and the fever.

I hope my 2nd dose will be milder. My family all also AZ.
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QUOTE(Szzz @ Jul 2 2021, 11:27 PM)
not related to vaccine

still for the better good

now u know why Malaysia no death reported on AZ
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Man fainted and died suddenly after a meal · Vaccination a day ago

(Shah Alam, 2nd) A 33-year-old Chinese youth from Ipoh fainted and died suddenly after a meal. Friends and family members were shocked because he had just received the AstraZeneca (AZ) vaccine the day before.

The friend of the deceased Liu Yonghui, Mr. Lu, told the Sin Chew Daily that after his friend Liu Yonghui came to Kuala Lumpur from Johor for a meeting in May, he encountered a nationwide lockdown order, so he temporarily stayed in his Damansara. Stay home for homework.

He said that when the government allowed people to apply for AZ vaccine appointments, he and Liu Yonghui both grabbed the appointments, on June 23 and 29, respectively.

He disclosed that Liu Yonghui went to the PWTC vaccination center at 4 pm on the 29th to administer the first dose of AZ vaccine. Although he quickly reacted to arm soreness and fatigue on the same day, he did not experience physical discomfort.

Taking Panadol to sleep and still tired

"Unexpectedly, after Liu Yonghui got up the next day, he reported that he was not sleeping well and his heartbeat seemed to be accelerating, so he went to sleep very late."

Mr. Lu pointed out that because Liu Yonghui felt that he could not sleep well, he took Panadol to continue sleeping.

"Liu Yonghui got up at about 5 in the afternoon, but he still felt tired, his head felt heavy, and not only his left arm (the injection site) was sore, but his left foot also felt sore."

He said that he had advised Liu Yonghui to see a doctor if he felt unwell, especially when he heard that AZ vaccine would have side effects.

"However, Yonghui felt unnecessary at the moment. After all, there was no high fever or no support."

Mr. Lu pointed out that they ordered take-out for dinner at about 7 o'clock and chatted at the table after the meal. They were talking and laughing in the process. Unexpectedly, Liu Yonghui suddenly fainted and dumped his body directly on the table. He managed to lay Liu Yonghui on the ground for cardiopulmonary resuscitation (cpr) and contacted an ambulance.

"The ambulance arrived in about half an hour. The medical staff checked on the spot and confirmed that Yonghui had no intention of skipping the world (note: should be dead)."

Mr. Lu pointed out that the death of his friend was indeed very unexpected, especially his friend's physical condition was good in the past, and occasionally followed to exercise.

The family is shocked by the sudden death of good health

The deceased's brother, Mr. Liu, said that his brother had actually undergone a health check in January this year, and his physical fitness index was very good, and he did not suffer from any chronic diseases.

He said that the sudden death of his younger brother shocked his family, especially the sudden death the day after the vaccination.

He disclosed that his brother had an autopsy afterwards, and according to the hospital's report, it will take 6 months for the test report to be released.

"We don't know whether vaccination is related to sudden death , but we hope that at least we can be wary of everyone. Vaccination sometimes requires consideration of health issues."


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His heartbeat seemed to be accelerating

If your heartbeat is accelerating, see doctor
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lel.......fever causes increase in heart rate.
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6 months for report…wait till neck long
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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Jul 2 2021, 11:46 PM)
AZ death in Malaysia
AZ Malaysia EU not recognize
AZ Japan made suspicious quality

Alright what else ....
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QUOTE(ryedrift @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
oh shit. anybody got their dose and doing good?
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QUOTE(Dezs @ Jul 2 2021, 11:32 PM)
6 months to release a report hahaha. Budak tahun 1 also dun get 2 months to submit simple exercise

dun blame unker for being a antivaxx nao.
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I reckon AZ side-effect kicks in very very fast compared to Pfizer.

Best have some good rest after the jab, next morning is perfectly ok already.
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That's why death due to vaccination so far remain zero.
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btw, i only skeptical on japan batch of az, the az from other source seems to be doing ok.
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Why?
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he went to sleep very late.

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QUOTE(Bill888 @ Jul 3 2021, 09:06 AM)
The Japanese don't want AZ for a reason.
Unless you are super healthy go for AZ but more than half of Malaysian are obese, so you know how healthy we are.
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my sis in law also got lots of side effect after taking az

second day worse, go hospital observation 2 days..

shes quite healthy and no allergics
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jul 3 2021, 09:34 AM)
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our record of az injection quite ok. no issue, even this also first case got ppl sudden death after injection.

taiwan first batch of az is from south korea 400k dose. they did the first batch injection also ok no issue.

but then come the japang 1.24m dose. straight got so many death after injection.

yes until now taiwan die die say the death not related with vaccine, but they also injecting moderna at the same time. never heard of their moderna causing death only az.

msia this 1m donation from japan, same source with taiwan. thats why i only skeptical on japan 1.

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QUOTE(xPrototype @ Jul 3 2021, 09:35 AM)
taiwan alot gg
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jul 3 2021, 09:39 AM)
our record of az injection quite ok. no issue, even this also first case got ppl sudden death after injection.

taiwan first batch of az is from south korea 400k dose. they did the first batch injection also ok no issue.

but then come the japang 1.24m dose. straight got so many death after injection.

yes until now taiwan die die say the death not related with vaccine, but they also injecting moderna at the same time. never heard of their moderna causing death only az.

msia this 1m donation from japan, same source with taiwan. thats why i only skeptical on japan 1.
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Sinovac also many stroke and death in Malaysia
Just that mainly happened Malay community and news didn't cover so came out via FB and socmed

Why u not skeptical?
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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
And my second dose appointment is Aug 3.
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QUOTE(judas @ Jul 2 2021, 11:23 PM)
me this sunday 1st dose. fark
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Sigh... Guess I'm walking to lethal injection execution on Monday in PWTC.

Nice knowing you guys. Bon Voyage.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 3 2021, 09:43 AM)
Sinovac also many stroke and death in Malaysia
Just that mainly happened Malay community and news didn't cover so came out via FB and socmed

Why u not skeptical?
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I go apply for last chance dose (waiting list), go help desk, all no success, maybe gomen or God don't want me to take vaccine .
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I received 2nd dose appointment on 28 July.

Should I go?

I'm so scared
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I received 2nd dose appointment on 28 July.

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For me I will eat what I want to eat and do what I want to do before going. Also inform family members your wish and last words
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It's like going into slaughter house.

We don't even know what happened to us when get jabbed for 2nd dose

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You already survived the first dose.

The second dose will be a walk in the park for you. biggrin.gif

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EDIT: I shared this news because I thought it's worthy of sharing, not because I anti vaccination. FYI I had my 1st AZ jab in June, waiting for 2nd jab in Aug (I shared my mysejahtera screenshot somewhere in this thread). I fully understand the risk of taking vaccine.


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6 months for the test report to be released.

amazing cake

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Die after vaccine =/= die due to vaccine
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Ya before this 33 years ago no take Anything Never die But After take vaccine dieded. Blame on all others disease EXCEPT vaccine. No wonder Malaysia many stupid people
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Ya before this 33 years ago no take Anything Never die But After take vaccine dieded. Blame on all others disease EXCEPT vaccine. No wonder Malaysia many stupid people
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well many people can just die suddenly
https://theconversation.com/explainer-can-y...-suddenly-25423
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Dap ccp news channel?
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Just because the sause is a Chinese medium newspaper it automatically becomes ccp dap?
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AZ Malaysia EU not recognize This was posted as fake news, need to reconfirm since the sos is not from EU website.
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I tell you
The way the people think these days is funny

I believe one day of a person to the jab .
Next day he walking accidentally fall into the longkang and rip, these ppl will blame the jab.
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you know exactly the problem with your logic. did he have an accident or violent death? he fainted right in front of his friends after a meal!
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English news no report?

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you know exactly the problem with your logic. did he have an accident or violent death? he fainted right in front of his friends after a meal!
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sudden death is normal
https://theconversation.com/explainer-can-y...-suddenly-25423
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Have You heard of causation? But for test?
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Bro., it very dangerous to write like that because that would imply indirectly that our professional authorities are involved in forgery. Later you might get an invitation to yum cha then you know.
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dont talk with cock, tag ur source here.
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https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40000110

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5139361

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Have You heard of causation? But for test?
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causation vs correlation
die after vaccine =/= die due to vaccine

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lmao, is "a" and "stroke" not "many", and "death"

kesian find a source have to dig so far.

also, faulty vaccine could also due to inappropriate storage

last time also got cases were sinovac vaccine can see solidify things inside. that is bcuz vaccination center lowered the temperature than the storage temp. below certain degree the vaccine start to freeze. sinovac dont need go below 0 degree for storage
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jul 3 2021, 10:23 AM)
lmao, is "a" and "stroke" not "many", and "death"

kesian find a source have to dig so far.

also, faulty vaccine could also due to inappropriate storage

last time also got cases were sinovac vaccine can see solidify things inside. that is bcuz vaccination center lowered the temperature than the storage temp. below certain degree the vaccine start to freeze. sinovac dont need go below 0 degree for storage
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I edit with lowyat sos for MY too

This also one case. U also scared?
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 3 2021, 10:24 AM)
I edit with lowyat sos for MY too

This also one case. U also scared?
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this is death, and the az coming from japan already reach malaysia. we dont know what the az from japan going to do with msian bcuz injection not yet started, but we already knew what az japan did to taiwanse. thats why i said i skeptical to japan az. you deliberately missing out that part

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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 3 2021, 10:10 AM)
People who can read Chinese?
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Meaning dap ccp supporter lor. Everyday and every second you get bombarded and brainwashed by propaganda. It's natural to become defense that you are ccp dap supporter.
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now u know why Japan and US donate AZ to Malaysia

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QUOTE(nonexno @ Jul 3 2021, 10:28 AM)
Meaning dap ccp supporter lor. Everyday and every second you get bombarded and brainwashed by propaganda. It's natural to become defense that you are ccp dap supporter.
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sinchew is famous for their anti ccp report. too many taiwan grads working there. dont believe go the page stay for awhile you will know
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QUOTE(nonexno @ Jul 3 2021, 10:28 AM)
Meaning dap ccp supporter lor. Everyday and every second you get bombarded and brainwashed by propaganda. It's natural to become defense that you are ccp dap supporter.
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Lol ok.
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jul 3 2021, 10:26 AM)
this is death, and the az coming from japan already reach malaysia. we dont know what the az from japan going to do with msian bcuz injection not yet started, but we already knew what az japan did to taiwanse. thats why i said i skeptical to japan az. you deliberately missing out that part
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Taiwanese news already confirmed as fake news
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Taiwanese news already confirmed as fake news
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Any statement from KKM about this boy's death?

QUOTE(kjacob @ Jul 3 2021, 10:20 AM)
causation vs correlation
die after vaccine =/= die due to vaccine

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By your logic, dying after a jab, even 1 second is not due to vaccine?
Please enlighten what is the time frame can be considered die due to vaccine.
Better yet, until when will you consider a death is due to vaccine?
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you know exactly the problem with your logic. did he have an accident or violent death? he fainted right in front of his friends after a meal!
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I was just being sarcastic about falling.

I'm just saying the mindset of some people will blame anything to the vaccine.

He fainted. Yes I know.
Could be something else.
Just because he took the jab recently, some people very fast conclude that it is caused by the vaccine.


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Should have gone to hospital.
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Better yet, until when will you consider a death is due to vaccine?
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When KKM Drs certify it is due to X, then only they consider it as caused by X.

Teacher say 1+1=3, they say teacher no wrong.
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QUOTE(lcleong @ Jul 3 2021, 10:37 AM)
can take ubat panadol ke just after vax?
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Panadol only if you have slight fever or slight physical discomfort. If heart rate suddenly increases, need to go hospital immediately.
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The Taiwanese news is very detailed about cause of death due to chronic disease

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4234661
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Good lah this guy got the death az lottery

Means there won't be anyone dropping dead for a long time after this


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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 3 2021, 10:36 AM)
I was just being sarcastic about falling.

I'm just saying the mindset of some people will blame anything to the vaccine.

He fainted.  Yes I know.
Could be something else.
Just because he took the jab recently, some people very fast conclude that it is caused by the vaccine.
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thats because he describe everything that fits into a blood clotting symptoms. why other countries are being transparent and we are not?

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autopsy checking for deep vein thrombosis needs 6 months? oh come on
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jul 3 2021, 10:43 AM)
Panadol only if you have slight fever or slight physical discomfort. If heart rate suddenly increases, need to go hospital immediately.
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it is normal for heart rate to increase by 10 for every 1 degree celcius raise of fever
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QUOTE(judas @ Jul 3 2021, 10:47 AM)
thats because he describe everything that fits into a blood clotting symptoms. why other countries are being transparent and we are not?

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autopsy checking for deep vein thrombosis needs 6 months? oh come on
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everything? lol
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everything? lol
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ok not everything. but its there

he was not sleeping well and his heartbeat seemed to be accelerating, so he went to sleep very late."

"Liu Yonghui got up at about 5 in the afternoon, but he still felt tired, his head felt heavy, and not only his left arm (the injection site) was sore, but his left foot also felt sore."

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ok not everything. but its there

he was not sleeping well and his heartbeat seemed to be accelerating, so he went to sleep very late."

"Liu Yonghui got up at about 5 in the afternoon, but he still felt tired, his head felt heavy, and not only his left arm (the injection site) was sore, but his left foot also felt sore."

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heart beat seem to be acclerating? most likely fever which raise heart rate by 10 for every rise of 1 degree celcius.
tired and head felt heavy is common after vaccination. also he had a bad quality sleep. fever and sore arm makes sleep quality bad
sore foot is strange. not sure what reason or reasons.
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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ Jul 3 2021, 10:34 AM)
Any statement from KKM about this boy's death?
By your logic, dying after a jab, even 1 second is not due to vaccine?
Please enlighten what is the time frame can be considered die due to vaccine.
Better yet, until when will you consider a death is due to vaccine?
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Cause of death is not determined by "logic", its determined by post mortem.
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Side effects fatigue, cannot sleep need go see doctor or not?

So panadol can eat or not before sleep for fatigue?

Accelerating heart rate meaning what?
Cannot laugh, must control emotion after jabbed?
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QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ Jul 3 2021, 11:04 AM)
Side effects fatigue, cannot sleep need go see doctor or not?

So panadol can eat or not before sleep for fatigue?

Accelerating heart rate meaning what?
Cannot laugh, must control emotion after jabbed?
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panadol is not for fatigue lol.


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Terbang mana oi?
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Typical blood clotting symptoms are shown and didn't go to the hospital immediately caused him a life. So sad.
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The second dose will be a walk in the park for you.  biggrin.gif
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No no no

It is by chance
Russian roulette
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Taiwan 150+ death after AZ....

So still anyone AZ? AZ even in their own country their people rejected.

So does AZ pharmaceutical company will pay compensation in Billion for the families of decease?
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causation vs correlation
die after vaccine =/= die due to vaccine

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It all boils down to your nervous system. Go learn first what is the cause. When your nervous system becomes tighten, you need to loosen all your nervous system so that blood/oxygen flows through your whole body. When taking vaccine, the protein spikes cause the nervous system to be tightened, Hence your oxygen unable to flow through (difficulty of breathing), chest pain due to your nerves cell tighten, You need to loosen this in order For the oxygen to flow through. Western practictioner do not know How to treat besides CPR. But the Correct method is by loosen all Your nerves cells (Which eventually reduce/no muscle pain and also oxygen will flow through from Your chest to brain and vice versa).

Understand the concept and start practising If you encounter this problem. You Can watch YouTube YuanShiDian
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QUOTE(slimey @ Jul 3 2021, 10:59 AM)
heart beat seem to be acclerating? most likely fever which raise heart rate by 10 for every rise of 1 degree celcius.
tired and head felt heavy is common after vaccination. also he had a bad quality sleep. fever and sore arm makes sleep quality bad
sore foot is strange. not sure what reason or reasons.
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I had the same too, my Heartbeat was around 140 at one stage after vaccine, mild fever and body ache, then I took panadol and it went down to to acceptable level. I think it's common side effect?
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jul 3 2021, 11:15 AM)
I had the same too, my Heartbeat was around 140 at one stage after vaccine, mild fever and body ache, then I took panadol and it went down to to acceptable level. I think it's common side effect?
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yes, it is well known the relationship of raise in body temperature and heart rate.

though i suspect 140 is not a correct reading.......more likely below 120
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QUOTE(judas @ Jul 3 2021, 10:47 AM)
thats because he describe everything that fits into a blood clotting symptoms. why other countries are being transparent and we are not?

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Typical blood clotting symptoms are shown and didn't go to the hospital immediately caused him a life. So sad.
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Any statement from KKM about this boy's death?
By your logic, dying after a jab, even 1 second is not due to vaccine?
Please enlighten what is the time frame can be considered die due to vaccine.
Better yet, until when will you consider a death is due to vaccine?
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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Jul 3 2021, 11:13 AM)
It all boils down to your nervous system. Go learn first what is the cause. When your nervous system becomes tighten, you need to loosen all your nervous system so that blood/oxygen flows through your whole body. When taking vaccine, the protein spikes cause the nervous system to be tightened, Hence your oxygen unable to flow through (difficulty of breathing), chest pain due to your nerves cell tighten, You need to loosen this in order For the oxygen to flow through. Western practictioner do not know How to treat besides CPR. But the Correct method is by loosen all Your nerves cells (Which eventually reduce/no muscle pain and also oxygen will flow through from Your chest to brain and vice versa).

Understand the concept and start practising If you encounter this problem. You Can watch YouTube YuanShiDian
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lol......... this is bomoh level talking liao
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Cause of death is not determined by "logic", its determined by post mortem.
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Quoted post person claims that dying after vaccination does not mean is from vaccination, I'm seeking clarification.

Many have been reported dead shortly after taking the jab
Common cause of death after post mortem: Heart issues, blood clots, stroke/bell palsy.
It seems that KKM's definition of "death by vaccine" is the death caused by allergic reaction from the vaccine shortly after jabbed. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
The authorities are quick to dismiss all deaths that are not classified by allergic reaction from vaccine shortly after jabbed (15-20mins) as not dead by vaccine.
Malaysian authorities seems to conveniently not investigate the link between heart issues, blood clots, stroke/bell palsy in relation to after vaccination which lots of countries have started investigating.

To date, there are 0 deaths caused by vaccination according to KKM.
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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ Jul 3 2021, 11:21 AM)
Quoted post person claims that dying after vaccination does not mean is from vaccination, I'm seeking clarification.

Many have been reported dead shortly after taking the jab
Common cause of death after post mortem: Heart issues, blood clots, stroke/bell palsy.
It seems that KKM's definition of "death by vaccine" is the death caused by allergic reaction from the vaccine shortly after jabbed. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
The authorities are quick to dismiss all deaths that are not classified by allergic reaction from vaccine shortly after jabbed (15-20mins) as not dead by vaccine.
Malaysian authorities seems to conveniently not investigate the link between heart issues, blood clots, stroke/bell palsy in relation to after vaccination which lots of countries have started investigating.

To date, there are 0 deaths caused by vaccination according to KKM.
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lol..........cause of death bells palsy? what you smoking?
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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ Jul 3 2021, 11:21 AM)
Quoted post person claims that dying after vaccination does not mean is from vaccination, I'm seeking clarification.

Many have been reported dead shortly after taking the jab
Common cause of death after post mortem: Heart issues, blood clots, stroke/bell palsy.
It seems that KKM's definition of "death by vaccine" is the death caused by allergic reaction from the vaccine shortly after jabbed. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
The authorities are quick to dismiss all deaths that are not classified by allergic reaction from vaccine shortly after jabbed (15-20mins) as not dead by vaccine.
Malaysian authorities seems to conveniently not investigate the link between heart issues, blood clots, stroke/bell palsy in relation to after vaccination which lots of countries have started investigating.

To date, there are 0 deaths caused by vaccination according to KKM.
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correlation =/= causation

With that logic, can we conclude majority of death classified as covid-19 death are not due to covid-19?
Just because they are tested covid-19 positive, doesn't mean covid-19 kills them.

Cause of death: obesity, kidney disease, high blood, cancer, old age, asthma, diabetic..



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Sore legs is a sign of blood clot at the legs, deep vein thrombosis

Deadly side effects of AZ vaccine

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Sore legs is a sign of blood clot at the legs, deep vein thrombosis

Deadly side effects of AZ vaccine

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If it happens what can you do though? Usually doc will prescribe meds or apa?
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QUOTE(cranx @ Jul 3 2021, 11:26 AM)
correlation =/= causation

With that logic, can we conclude majority of death classified as covid-19 death are not due to covid-19?
Just because they are tested covid-19 positive, doesn't mean covid-19 kills them.

Cause of death: obesity, kidney disease, high blood, cancer, old age, asthma, diabetic..
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Someone with Covid dies with comorbidity = dead because of covid
Someone take vaccine dies with comorbidity = dead because of comorbidity

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Leg swelling =/= sore legs :x:
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QUOTE(slimey @ Jul 3 2021, 11:17 AM)
yes, it is well known the relationship of raise in body temperature and heart rate.

though i suspect 140 is not a correct reading.......more likely below 120
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Really 140. Tracked by my Apple Watch. But touch wood nothing bad happened.

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QUOTE(cranx @ Jul 3 2021, 11:26 AM)
correlation =/= causation

With that logic, can we conclude majority of death classified as covid-19 death are not due to covid-19?
Just because they are tested covid-19 positive, doesn't mean covid-19 kills them.

Cause of death: obesity, kidney disease, high blood, cancer, old age, asthma, diabetic..
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But that guy was healthy... his medical checkup early this year says his physical fitness index was very good, and he did not suffer from any chronic diseases...

you don't suddenly get obesity.. kidney disease.. etc. overnight..
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Haziq Kamaruddin took Pfizer, not AZ.

Malaysia is mourning the death of two-time Olympic archer Haziq Kamaruddin, who died at the age of 27 on Friday morning after collapsing at his home.
Social media erupted with speculation that his death was linked to the Pfizer-BioNTech for Covid-19 he recently received. However, the Healthy Ministry said on Saturday that a postmortem found he had died of a blocked coronary artery and there was no evidence of a link to the vaccine.

https://www.scmp.com/sport/other-sport/arti...rcher-27-health
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Just to say that so far MY die-die want to say it is not due to AEFI
They should release AEFI data
Millions injected already but no AEFI? While other countries have reported AEFI?
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So AZ ok to take or not 1?

Why my family and friends all took AZ ok je?

Even my 72 y/o grandma took AZ still healthy.
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QUOTE(Darkspreader @ Jul 3 2021, 11:33 AM)
So AZ ok to take or not 1?

Why my family and friends all took AZ ok je?

Even my 72 y/o grandma took AZ still healthy.
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depends on luck
it is like 1 in a hundred thousand or million maybe

can't wait for 2nd dose but too bad many countries did not recognise sinovac..or az made in asia
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jul 3 2021, 11:29 AM)
But that guy was healthy... his medical checkup early this year says his physical fitness index was very good, and he did not suffer from any chronic diseases...

you don't suddenly get obesity.. kidney disease.. etc. overnight..
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It is a good idea to perform full medical check prior to any vaccination. Preferably a week before.
Else if anything happen, they could easily spin it and claim undiagnosed illnesses.
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So AZ ok to take or not 1?

Why my family and friends all took AZ ok je?

Even my 72 y/o grandma took AZ still healthy.
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jul 3 2021, 09:39 AM)
our record of az injection quite ok. no issue, even this also first case got ppl sudden death after injection.

taiwan first batch of az is from south korea 400k dose. they did the first batch injection also ok no issue.

but then come the japang 1.24m dose. straight got so many death after injection.

yes until now taiwan die die say the death not related with vaccine, but they also injecting moderna at the same time. never heard of their moderna causing death only az.

msia this 1m donation from japan, same source with taiwan. thats why i only skeptical on japan 1.
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You have to consider also that Taiwanese media has more freedom to report deaths after vaccination.

See early in the year our local news reported people getting heart attacks after Pfizer but after a few people were whacked with Fake News Law, our local news all went quiet.

Even that Miri aunty case, they didn't report it at first. The only thing they reported was the statement from the government that the heart attack had nothing to do with the vaccine. If this Miri aunty's case wasn't viral on social media, they probably would have been quiet about it too.

This Liu YongHui case also so far I see only SinChew reported it.

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Understand the concept of Why muscle pain difficulty in breathing. See My above post

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Fap n fcuk will help release body heat?
And lower body temperature n any trapped tension, blockage smile.gif
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lol......... this is bomoh level talking liao
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yesterday took a grab
the driver told that he had completed 2 dose of sinovac
he mentioned he rejected the astra at first place because of his neighbour who took the astra complaining the side effect is too much to be borne

he said something like "malam xleh tido, kepala mcm nk jatuh, besok pagi pakai tongkat gi klinik" something like that
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Whol force you to take the vaccine?
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Fap n fcuk will help release body heat?
And lower body temperature n any trapped tension, blockage smile.gif
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 3 2021, 11:35 AM)
depends on luck
it is like 1 in a hundred thousand or million maybe

can't wait for 2nd dose but too bad many countries did not recognise sinovac..or az made in asia
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From within my list of WA groups, many had taken the vaccine. Be it Pfeizer, AZ or Sinovac. None had complained of any major issues, so far.

And from the same list of WA groups, quite a few had got covid 19, may survived but unfortunately 4 person i personally knew had did not.

So i guess one need to consider the risk and hope for the best.

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QUOTE(Lyu @ Jul 3 2021, 11:46 AM)
yesterday took a grab
the driver told that he had completed 2 dose of sinovac
he mentioned he rejected the astra at first place because of his neighbour who took the astra complaining the side effect is too much to be borne

he said something like "malam xleh tido, kepala mcm nk jatuh, besok pagi pakai tongkat gi klinik" something like that
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Different ppl different reactions lah. My colleagues took AZ, one fever headache like wanna die, another one ear swelling and got red rashes (that's what she said, I didn't see for myself). I took AZ nothing except soreness at injection point. My parents took Sinovac, dad felt tired for a couple of days, mom felt nothing at all.
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You certified medical professional?
I believe u if u got medical license from MMC.
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probably the poor guy has antibodies produced from the AZ that binds with the platelet factor 4(PF4) then lead to thrombosis caused from coagulation of all the platelets.

im sure they know this but of course malaysia needs 6 months to verify this.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-v...johnson-johnson

AZ which batch? Jpn or Uk?
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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 3 2021, 11:51 AM)
Different ppl different reactions lah. My colleagues took AZ, one fever headache like wanna die, another one ear swelling and got red rashes (that's what she said, I didn't see for myself). I took AZ nothing except soreness at injection point. My parents took Sinovac, dad felt tired for a couple of days, mom felt nothing at all.
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ayam know

just wanna say there is a risk of dying there if one cant bear the effect
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Jul 3 2021, 11:54 AM)
ayam know

just wanna say there is a risk of dying there if one cant bear the effect
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That's why they need to be transparent about the death causes. Not simply brush it off as unrelated to vaccined
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That's why they need to be transparent about the death causes. Not simply brush it off as unrelated to vaccined
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Jul 3 2021, 11:46 AM)
yesterday took a grab
the driver told that he had completed 2 dose of sinovac
he mentioned he rejected the astra at first place because of his neighbour who took the astra complaining the side effect is too much to be borne

he said something like "malam xleh tido, kepala mcm nk jatuh, besok pagi pakai tongkat gi klinik" something like that
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The driver had mild side effects after Sinovac, right?


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The driver had mild side effects after Sinovac, right?
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u know what he told me

he said no adverse effect, but his sense sharpen

he said something like, "aku ni perokok, rase lidah kurang sikit, sejak jab vaccine, lidah hidung mcm sensitif. minum teh bole rase teh daun tu"


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QUOTE(Lyu @ Jul 3 2021, 12:05 PM)
u know what he told me

he said no adverse effect, but his sense sharpen

he said something like, "aku ni perokok, rase lidah kurang sikit, sejak jab vaccine, lidah hidung mcm sensitif. minum teh bole rase teh daun tu"
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Huh.


Mild side effects is good enough for me.
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Jul 3 2021, 12:05 PM)
u know what he told me

he said no adverse effect, but his sense sharpen

he said something like, "aku ni perokok, rase lidah kurang sikit, sejak jab vaccine, lidah hidung mcm sensitif. minum teh bole rase teh daun tu"
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he should taken this vaccine every 6 mths to stay more sharp
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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 2 2021, 05:51 PM)
Different ppl different reactions lah. My colleagues took AZ, one fever headache like wanna die, another one ear swelling and got red rashes (that's what she said, I didn't see for myself). I took AZ nothing except soreness at injection point. My parents took Sinovac, dad felt tired for a couple of days, mom felt nothing at all.
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i also dun feel anything after taking AZ....

how old are you?
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i also dun feel anything after taking AZ....

how old are you?
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You certified medical professional?
I believe u if u got medical license from MMC.
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One do not need to be certified in order to understand How Your body system works. Your body you know better than Anyone else. You are the best doctor for Your body
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Jul 3 2021, 12:05 PM)
u know what he told me

he said no adverse effect, but his sense sharpen

he said something like, "aku ni perokok, rase lidah kurang sikit, sejak jab vaccine, lidah hidung mcm sensitif. minum teh bole rase teh daun tu"
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Lol maybe if he was given air suam injection and told that's sinovac (or any of his favorite brand) he will still feel the same.
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me too. I guess UK is right to give above 40 people with AZ.

I see a lot of young'un when I go jab yesterday.
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me too. I guess UK is right to give above 40 people with AZ.

I see a lot of young'un when I go jab yesterday.
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jul 3 2021, 11:29 AM)
Really 140. Tracked by my Apple Watch. But touch wood nothing bad happened.

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I see. Maybe if heart rate is already raised during fever and you do some activity that raise the heart rate further.


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I think the issue here is not who force ppl to take the vaccine, but whether or not the government is being fully transparent on the risk associated with the vaccine they're offering us.
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Bodo tu simpan sikit. Go and understand how our body system works before talk cock
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sinchew is famous for their anti ccp report. too many taiwan grads working there. dont believe go the page stay for awhile you will know
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One do not need to be certified in order to understand How Your body system works. Your body you know better than Anyone else. You are the best doctor for Your body
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mana tau there's plot twist
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I call it BS plenty of my UK friend below 40/30 took AZ jab. Don’t simply say lah. You not even from UK
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they advice.
You didn't read the news?

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57021738

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Omg. I'm scare

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Feel weird go see a doctor. Side effect is there. Depend on your body can fight it of or not. Healthy doesn't mean you can fight it ownself.
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Side effect is actually our body “fighting back” against the stimulus vaccine. When the fight back (reaction) is excessive, that’s when it gets shitty.
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Should az still approve to be use?
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QUOTE(LowKeras @ Jul 3 2021, 12:50 PM)
Should az still approve to be use?
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Unless you can convince KJ to return the 1 million doses of AZ to Japan

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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 2 2021, 11:31 PM)
Not trying to scare off anyone, I myself had my first AZ shot on June 1. Just keep an eye on symptoms and signals, go to nearest hospital if something is not right. You can never be too careful.
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QUOTE(pimai @ Jul 3 2021, 11:50 AM)
From within my list of WA groups, many had taken the vaccine. Be it Pfeizer, AZ or Sinovac. None had complained of any major issues, so far.

And from the same list of WA groups, quite a few had got  covid 19, may survived but  unfortunately 4 person i personally knew had did not.

So i guess one need to consider the risk and hope for the best.
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the fuck he take panadol?
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Jepunis quality should be better?
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Jipun donasi AZ to Taiwan

Taiwanese 240ppl death cases might be related to it

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/arc...7/01/2003760114
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kl should ask internal minister tocsend LOD to sinchew. much of the death by vaccine is not reported in other msm. must be sinchew ada propaganda sendiri and jolok sarabg tebuan of certain community to rise against gov. why thestar and malymail no report. sinchew keterlaluan cipta berita.
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the fuck he take panadol?
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medical expeet do advise you have fever after AZ yoi should takr panadol. nothong wrong with thst. unless rafidah jump in and laugh at ppl again.
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Jul 3 2021, 12:59 PM)
medical expeet do advise you have fever after AZ yoi should takr panadol. nothong wrong with thst. unless rafidah jump in and laugh at ppl again.
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which expert?
article no say he got fever pun

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Jul 3 2021, 11:37 AM)
while i'm pro vac, i do not encourage macai2 vac buta2 defending vac & gohmen hiding data.

i understand the risk that comes wit vac, & it's a risk i'm willing to take for the better of every1.
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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jul 3 2021, 01:00 PM)
which expert?
article no say he got fever pun
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even Sinovac also panadol.
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QUOTE(forrest @ Jul 3 2021, 12:55 PM)
Jipun donasi AZ to Taiwan

Taiwanese 240ppl death cases might be related to it

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/arc...7/01/2003760114
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Die chocking on food also blame AZ Japan.
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which expert?
article no say he got fever pun
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go google la si pemalas.ask handout macam those.white flag only..
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go google la si pemalas.ask handout macam those.white flag only..
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but he got fever or not?
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Thank you for being sensible. Hopefully there are more who thinks critically here in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(forrest @ Jul 2 2021, 06:55 PM)
Jipun donasi AZ to Taiwan

Taiwanese 240ppl death cases might be related to it

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/arc...7/01/2003760114
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not related to AZ
https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/arch...6/25/2003759770
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QUOTE(kjacob @ Jul 3 2021, 01:07 PM)
of course denied since they also not sure, and prevent panic for not having jab
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kl should ask internal minister tocsend LOD to sinchew. much of the death by vaccine is not reported in other msm. must be sinchew ada propaganda sendiri and jolok sarabg tebuan of certain community to rise against gov. why thestar and malymail no report. sinchew keterlaluan cipta berita.
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What do u expect from MCA owned publishing man? Sin Chew always has its own propaganda.
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of course denied since they also not sure, and prevent panic for not having jab
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then you so sure?
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you see next 1 year KJ will laud 0 death by vsccine in malaysia. no one will get.that 500k promise by gov.
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go read again what I wrote, use Google translate to your mother language If you don't understand
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the fuck he take panadol?
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Oh, cause the PPV centre nurses in uniform actually recommend taking panadol if there is headache after injection. nod.gif

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Oh, cause the PPV centre nurses in uniform actually recommend taking panadol if there is headache after injection. nod.gif
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i did not see headache or fever only heart racing and tired
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QUOTE(cranx @ Jul 3 2021, 11:26 AM)
correlation =/= causation

With that logic, can we conclude majority of death classified as covid-19 death are not due to covid-19?
Just because they are tested covid-19 positive, doesn't mean covid-19 kills them.

Cause of death: obesity, kidney disease, high blood, cancer, old age, asthma, diabetic..
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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jul 3 2021, 01:21 PM)
i did not see headache or fever only heart racing and tired
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In my case though, I got body chillness, headache, temperature of 38.5'C, higher than usual heart rate beat (using OMRON blood pressure monitor) and tiredness after 11 hours and 30 minutes from injection time.
Those symptoms lasted for exactly 24 hours and I only left with headache for additional 20 hours or so before suddenly I feel just fine again.

Although the headache kinda "unusual". I feel as if there is something in my head poking my eyes from inside. sweat.gif
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Side effect is actually our body “fighting back” against the stimulus vaccine. When the fight back (reaction) is excessive, that’s when it gets shitty.
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thats not true.
google Astrazeneca + PF4
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Inb4 caused of death is due to eating.
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no death related to covid vaccine YET in MY

I was told la......................
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So funny
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Do You know Why doctors reluctant to take Any paracetamol when they are having fever? Coz Your body immune system will heals itself sooner or Later without medication. You know Why doctors only Use medical devices to examine/diagnose your body? They do not know Your body. Only can deduce from your normal symptom to provide prescription. Go figure it out.
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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Jul 3 2021, 02:04 PM)
Do You know Why doctors reluctant to take Any paracetamol when they are having fever? Coz Your body immune system will heals itself sooner or Later without medication. You know Why doctors only Use medical devices to examine/diagnose your body? They do not know Your body. Only can deduce from your normal symptom to provide prescription. Go figure it out.
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and so?

what if i tell you that doctors have the diagnosis from history taking in 90 percent of the time?
obviously you dont know shit
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In UK, Australia & other EU countries, AstraZeneca was only recommended for those ABOVE 40 years old.

In Malaysia, initially the gov only want to give it for those >60 years old.

BUT during self OPT-IN, many ignorance youngster below 40 also choose AZ. Really facepalm.
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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Jul 3 2021, 02:04 PM)
Do You know Why doctors reluctant to take Any paracetamol when they are having fever? Coz Your body immune system will heals itself sooner or Later without medication. You know Why doctors only Use medical devices to examine/diagnose your body? They do not know Your body. Only can deduce from your normal symptom to provide prescription. Go figure it out.
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because paracetamol is a pain killer, beta blockers that block the pain signal to your brain

google a stronger pain killer, Ultracet , see wat it does
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Jul 3 2021, 02:41 PM)
In UK, Australia & other EU countries, AstraZeneca was only recommended for those ABOVE 40 years old.

In Malaysia, initially the gov only want to give it for those >60 years old.

BUT during self OPT-IN, many ignorance youngster below 40 also choose AZ. Really facepalm.
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I still remember the opt in phase in May. Many here were saying “ i don’t trust this vaccine for my elderly parents, too dangerous “, when it was all over the news that time, the blood clot issue was affecting younger ppl. Malaysians ignorance and laziness to read really lead them to take poor decisions again and again.
And i saw many ppl who look like 20 something lining up pwtc when i was fetching my parents there for their jab back in May.

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Some EU countries suspended AZ for some time and that's not without good reason. I am not saying it is risky for majority but it is risky for a small group of people. Which group of people is more or less risky is not widely known even in EU countries.
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UK says under-40s should be offered alternative to AstraZeneca vaccine

LONDON, May 7 (Reuters) - British officials said on Friday people under 40 should be offered an alternative to Oxford/AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine where possible due to a small risk of blood clots, given the low number of cases and the availability of other shots.

AstraZeneca's COVID-19 shot, developed by Oxford University, has resulted in reports of rare blood clots with low platelet levels that occur more commonly in younger adults. Some countries have advised the shot be given only to older people.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-advises...hot-2021-05-07/


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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Jul 3 2021, 02:48 PM)
UK says under-40s should be offered alternative to AstraZeneca vaccine

LONDON, May 7 (Reuters) - British officials said on Friday people under 40 should be offered an alternative to Oxford/AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine where possible due to a small risk of blood clots, given the low number of cases and the availability of other shots.

AstraZeneca's COVID-19 shot, developed by Oxford University, has resulted in reports of rare blood clots with low platelet levels that occur more commonly in younger adults. Some countries have advised the shot be given only to older people.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-advises...hot-2021-05-07/
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Still small risk ?lol
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jul 3 2021, 01:27 PM)
In my case though, I got body chillness, headache, temperature of 38.5'C, higher than usual heart rate beat (using OMRON blood pressure monitor) and tiredness after 11 hours and 30 minutes from injection time.
Those symptoms lasted for exactly 24 hours and I only left with headache for additional 20 hours or so before suddenly I feel just fine again.

Although the headache kinda "unusual". I feel as if there is something in my head poking my eyes from inside. sweat.gif
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Very similar to mine: I took my jab at 9.30am, and started to feel chill & feverish at 10.00pm. By 11.30pm, fever gone, no more chill, and went to sleep. Next morning wake up with overall tiredness, muscle ache, slight headache (forehead part), and feverish (no fever though), resting heart beat slightly faster from average 62 to 68. By 8-9pm, those symptoms just gone. The discomfort lasted for about 24 hours.
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QUOTE(Darkspreader @ Jul 3 2021, 11:33 AM)
So AZ ok to take or not 1?

Why my family and friends all took AZ ok je?

Even my 72 y/o grandma took AZ still healthy.
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Because u bodoh macam babi. Already said it’s not safe for people below 40 years old. Below 40 years old. Read that.

AZ is nothing safe for below 40 years old. Period. Don’t take it unless u wanna gamble with your life. Not worth it.
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can you ktards don't ask other ktards whether to take or not?

this decision is solely yours, don't ask a random stranger on the net to decide your fate.

being unvaccinated is a danger as well.
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Mcb az appointment is massively scheduled at this month, so all wait die?
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QUOTE(heart strings @ Jul 3 2021, 03:01 PM)
Because u bodoh macam babi. Already said it’s not safe for people below 40 years old. Below 40 years old. Read that.

AZ is nothing safe for below 40 years old. Period. Don’t take it unless u wanna gamble with your life. Not worth it.
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Why out of nowhere i kene maki bodoh macam babi?

Insulting others for asking questions budaya kita?
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jul 3 2021, 02:44 PM)
I still remember the opt in phase in May.  Many here were saying “ i don’t trust this vaccine for my elderly parents, too dangerous “, when it was all over the news that time, the blood clot issue was affecting younger ppl. Malaysians ignorance and laziness to read really lead them to take poor decisions again and again.
And i saw many ppl who look like 20 something lining  up pwtc when i was fetching my parents there for their jab back in May.
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Easier to cover up when old people get heart attacks or strokes... Just say is common thing to happen to old people... Risk of covid for old people still higher than risk of vaccine...

But when it happens to young people, it's harder to cover up.

So the solution is, put warning labels so it's not their fault.
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QUOTE(Darkspreader @ Jul 3 2021, 03:47 PM)
Why out of nowhere i kene maki bodoh macam babi?

Insulting others for asking questions budaya kita?
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Yes it’s harsh. But I’m saving your life.

Apart from those reported death.

Simple question: why does Japan wanna donate the AZ vaccine to Malaysia ?
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QUOTE(heart strings @ Jul 3 2021, 04:16 PM)
Yes it’s harsh. But I’m saving your life.

Apart from those reported death.

Simple question: why does Japan wanna donate the AZ vaccine to Malaysia ?
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Can answer nicely also mah.
Where got people preface their answer with insult 1.

Regarding your question, my first impression is that its a friendly gesture from Japan. Japan didnt really give war reparation the countries they attacked back in WW2 unlike the Britains. Jepun imo donated out of goodwill & for political reason.

Some people say Jepun donate bcos they dont want the vax as it causes harm, but i think that doesnt make any sense. Why would they want to do something that harm their reputation and relationship with other countries? Their politician got that sohai meh?

Especially now with their strained relationship with CCP, does it makes sense that they will cari gaduh with M'sia and Taiwan?
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Government will still say we are 0 death from vaccine. Haha
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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Jul 3 2021, 04:24 PM)
Government will still say we are 0 death from vaccine. Haha
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Good luck
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Yes it’s harsh. But I’m saving your life.

Apart from those reported death.

Simple question: why does Japan wanna donate the AZ vaccine to Malaysia ?
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i thought japan is aging society, many above 40 yo people there, why don't want AZ hmm.gif
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Jul 3 2021, 05:07 PM)
i thought japan is aging society, many above 40 yo people there, why don't want AZ  hmm.gif
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Look at Taiwan. Those who died are well over 60
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Jul 3 2021, 05:07 PM)
i thought japan is aging society, many above 40 yo people there, why don't want AZ  hmm.gif
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jepunis society is sensitive to ALL forms of vaccination due to historical events.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/12/2...ry-coronavirus/
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Look at Taiwan. Those who died are well over 60
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I thought younger people will be more affected
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I thought younger people will be more affected
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https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4226244

Elderly cases in Taiwan, with chronic illnesses. AZ from Japan

I guess its different for everyone
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post Jul 3 2021, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(Wijjog @ Jul 3 2021, 08:21 PM)
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4226244

Elderly cases in Taiwan, with chronic illnesses. AZ from Japan

I guess its different for everyone
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