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diffyhelman2
post Jul 3 2021, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(jueiri @ Jul 3 2021, 12:04 AM)
It will b denied. It gona said he died cuz mati bila2 masa 100%.
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How often do 33yo healthy no issues at all male die suddenly?
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post Jul 3 2021, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Jul 3 2021, 12:06 AM)
if headache must straight hospital.
blood clot in brain maybe.
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Headache could also be stroke or aneurysm.
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post Jul 3 2021, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(gahpadu @ Jul 3 2021, 12:13 AM)
Normally 2nd dose were worsen
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Some body here said that second dose adverse reaction for AZ is less severe.
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post Jul 3 2021, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(Daylight2018 @ Jul 3 2021, 12:20 AM)
Yes
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Sos?
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post Jul 3 2021, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(arc_archive @ Jul 3 2021, 01:12 AM)
Dah tua no need vaccine le..

Gib to young guy dulu.. after all they're the future..
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UK itself doesnt recommend AZ for their young...
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post Jul 3 2021, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(phas3r @ Jul 3 2021, 01:23 AM)
1st dose AZ, 2nd dose sino, you onz? laugh.gif
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Can, consider doing like Singapore, give sinovac for those who allergic reaction after Pfizer first jab
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5164702&hl=
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post Jul 3 2021, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 3 2021, 01:32 AM)
I already took my first AZ jab and will be taking my 2nd in Aug. Have you?

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u orang tua, xde masalah, mostly. immune system sudah less active. less reactogenicity.
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post Jul 3 2021, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(orangtua @ Jul 3 2021, 01:39 AM)
I believe everyone has the rights to get information and make own decision. I read a lot of news (both positive and negative) and I made the decision to take AZ when I had the opportunity.
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Same, I read all the vaccine related news since April onwards and I decided to go for Sinovac and inactivated vaccine for myself.
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post Jul 3 2021, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 3 2021, 01:53 AM)
Bising la u. Cucuk already or not? "Carrot" is coming...
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parents already cucuk. Based on best available knowledge in May, I was confident AZ was safe enough for my 70 year old age bracket parents, but not for myself. Deswai I helped them register for the first round opt-in then and am continuing to wait for sinovac slot for myself.

Ofc if the decision was based on todays news....especially Japan sourced AZ and the reports from Taiwan...I might have made a different decision.
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post Jul 3 2021, 03:14 AM

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jul 3 2021, 03:06 AM)
Better odds than not taken any. Everyday also this type of news, how true?
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post Jul 3 2021, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 3 2021, 06:10 AM)
I tell you
The way the people think these days is funny

I believe one day of a person to the jab .
Next day he walking accidentally fall into the longkang and rip, these ppl will blame the jab.
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you know exactly the problem with your logic. did he have an accident or violent death? he fainted right in front of his friends after a meal!
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post Jul 3 2021, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jul 3 2021, 08:31 AM)
Bro., it very dangerous to write like that because that would imply indirectly that our professional authorities are involved in forgery. Later you might get an invitation to yum cha then you know.
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Professionals have been proven to disagree among themselves and even change their minds after an initial decision. Case in point, the Nora Quoirin case, initially ruled a misadventure, then upon review classified as open verdict.

Politicians and public like to pretend most cases are binary black and white decision, in reality it is the totality of evidence and circumstances that makes favoring one possibility more likely over the other.
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post Jul 3 2021, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ Jul 3 2021, 10:34 AM)
Better yet, until when will you consider a death is due to vaccine?
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When KKM Drs certify it is due to X, then only they consider it as caused by X.

Teacher say 1+1=3, they say teacher no wrong.
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post Jul 3 2021, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Jul 3 2021, 11:26 AM)
correlation =/= causation

With that logic, can we conclude majority of death classified as covid-19 death are not due to covid-19?
Just because they are tested covid-19 positive, doesn't mean covid-19 kills them.

Cause of death: obesity, kidney disease, high blood, cancer, old age, asthma, diabetic..
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post Jul 3 2021, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Jul 3 2021, 02:41 PM)
In UK, Australia & other EU countries, AstraZeneca was only recommended for those ABOVE 40 years old.

In Malaysia, initially the gov only want to give it for those >60 years old.

BUT during self OPT-IN, many ignorance youngster below 40 also choose AZ. Really facepalm.
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I still remember the opt in phase in May. Many here were saying “ i don’t trust this vaccine for my elderly parents, too dangerous “, when it was all over the news that time, the blood clot issue was affecting younger ppl. Malaysians ignorance and laziness to read really lead them to take poor decisions again and again.
And i saw many ppl who look like 20 something lining up pwtc when i was fetching my parents there for their jab back in May.

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