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post Oct 29 2007, 09:20 PM

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Ok. STOP!

How come suddenly become arguments about game designs, reality and wat not? Game section is THAT way.....

Bottom line - crysis is a crisis.... laugh.gif
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post Oct 29 2007, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Oct 29 2007, 08:58 PM)

guys hope this will solve your CRYSIS graphics problems if you are under windows XP ... this link below enables us who are using XP to get VISTA QUALITY Crysis graphics for Example : DX10,  light beams , bla bla bla .... and enables to set to VERY HIGH, theres are also screenshots for comparison  brows.gif  take a LOOK !

http://www.crysis-online.com/forum/index.php?topic=11837.0
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Nice info!

However, once crytek finds out about this, they'll probably fix it then bye bye XP + crysis. Can we keep it quiet for now? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Oct 29 2007, 10:10 PM)
Guys , GAINWARD 8800GT review it SMOKEs 8800GTX in OC by 1k 3Dmarks 06  shocking.gif

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=3904&Itemid=1

SPARKLEs announeced 8800GT with PASSIVE HEATSINK ! HOPE this will solve some OVERHEATING  smile.gif

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=3902&Itemid=1
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Errr.... that is incorrect. Most of the time, passive cooling will result in higher temperature.... smile.gif
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post Oct 30 2007, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 30 2007, 12:28 AM)
agree.....or u could also get a used 8800GTS 320MB for slightly cheaper in the garage sales
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Yup. LYN mega sale in garage sales for the 8800GTS 320mb.... Mega discounts! Going cheap cheap for around err..... rm600-650, I think.... whistling.gif
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post Oct 30 2007, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 30 2007, 01:14 AM)
Wah so cheap at rm600?!  Can buy 2 units n build 3rd SLI rig. laugh.gif  Seriously, I'd rather get 8800GTS 320 SLI than single GT man.
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Ya lo, like stock market..... panic selling..... laugh.gif

Hey! Good idea, get a cheap cheap GTS to SLI........ hmm.gif Too bad my mobo doesn't have dual PCI-E cry.gif

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post Oct 30 2007, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 30 2007, 01:20 AM)
Asus P5N-E SLI is oni rm450. Add GTS oso total up to rm1k oni. For super duper sweet FPS in Crysis next month when SLI drivers appear for it.  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 30 2007, 01:22 AM)
that mobo is only 8x SLI la...damn sad...

get the P5N32-E SLI lor... cheapest n680i mobo that i know of tongue.gif

or the EVGA A1 revision n680i.
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Aiyaa.... I think I'll stick to Non-SLI first..... but that was a brief "happy" thought nevertheless!!! laugh.gif
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post Oct 31 2007, 12:41 AM

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Nice fans but doesn't improve overclocking. Even lose to the normal single-slot cooling solutions... doh.gif
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post Nov 6 2007, 12:25 AM

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I want to add another cent. whistling.gif

8800GT - single-slot cooler, all the hot air is vented into your casing. Not that good for closed-cased system.

In terms for performance comparison, the 320mb unfortunately lose by a wide margin. However, a better comparison would be with the 640mb. But of course, still lose.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 6 2007, 12:40 AM)
In the end, all will lose when the Tri SLI GTX/Ultras maliiiiiiiiiiiiii.  laugh.gif
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I want to add another half cent. I'm STILL JEALOUUUSSSS!!! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Nov 6 2007, 01:31 AM)
Those saying SLI, have to take note not all users are using SLI board.
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Ya lo, thought I could get another cheap GTS but not possible due to non-SLI mobo.....

Frankly speaking, I've never really thought about SLI due to it's disadvantages especially the fact that the 2nd PCIE slot runs at a crippled bandwidth. However, with the new PCIE 2.0, this might change. Hopefully, the speed gained from PCIE 2.0 is significant.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 6 2007, 02:39 AM)
2nd PCIE slot on crippled bandwidth?? wat do u mean by this?

u talking about the lower sli chipsets (eg n650i) ??? the ones that run on 8x on sli mode?

the higher sli chipsets (eg n680i) are supposed to be running 16x even on sli....
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Yup, I'm talking about current mainstream chipsets/mobo that the average consumers uses. We do know that there are already chipsets that is able to support x16/x16. smile.gif Just that PCI-E 2.0 has native full support (for lack of a better description).....

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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 6 2007, 08:46 AM)
A normal mainstream mobo like the Asus P5N32e SLI is only about rm750 n it runs both cards at full 16X, 16X for each card. There's no crippled slots. It's not like the Intel mobos that r really crippled at 16x, 4x for ATI cards. Now, that's really crippled when u get down to 4x. Even the really cheap n650i mobos r running 8x, 8x for each card. The n650i mobos r only about rm450 now. So if u get that plus a super LYN garage fire sale 8800GTS at say 700. It all totals up to rm1150 for a GTS SLI set up which is still better than going out to buy a 8800GT at about rm950.
Aiyoyo.... really tempting... drool.gif

No no, uncle, don't poison me. I'm not going SLI yet. Maybe in the future when x16/x16 is cheaper..... smile.gif
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 6 2007, 04:26 PM)
"The only way to overcome temptation is to give in to it"- Oscar Wilde.

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That really helped. NOT! tongue.gif

Anyway, was just thinking, if wanna SLI, instead of buying another GTS 640mb, why not sell off my GTS 640mb and get 2x 8800GT...... I mean, the price that I can get for the GTS 640mb would be about the same as a bulk 8800GT.....

Anyway, that's just a thought (no more poison from you know who!!!).... wink.gif

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AArrrrggghh.... Stop the poison. I'm dying.... cry.gif
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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Nov 6 2007, 10:21 PM)
im not an audiphile, but i agree with madman.
audigy 2 and above (except for Xtreme auido) are good, as they are using EMU10k2 sound processors which supports up to  EAX 4.0

if you wanna be a hardcore, go for X-fi models (again, minus the Xtreme audio) to enjoy EAX 5.0. But hor... i think there's no games out there optimized for EAX 5.0 yet. i might be wrong thou....
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There are games with EAX 5.0 support. Can't remember which one as I'm not at home. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Nov 9 2007, 05:26 PM)
I'm very confused about getting the 8800gt.

I consider myself a power gamer and i can't stand low res textures etc.  Trouble is i plan to upgrade my monitor to 1920x1200 in the near future.  To further complicate issues I'm building a new pc very very soon, and i'm concerned that the 8800gt won't be sufficient to run at that resolution.  Crysis benchmarks don't do anything to make my decision any easier.

And then there's the 112 SP G80 GTS 640mb which according to benchmarks is supposedly better than than the 512mb gt at higher resolutions but also comes at a larger price premium...

And then there's also the problem i face in that i run with a dual monitor setup.  And will do so when i upgrade.  So i guess my options are...

a) stick with current 8800gts 320mb
b) buy cheaper 8800gt 512mb and sell as soon as the GTX replacement comes out.
c) buy 112sp 8800gts 640mb, and maybe SLI the mofos?  (problem being x38 mobos are crossfire)

Anyone got any suggestions as to options?
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The thing is, the GTS 320mb is still a good gaming card. It became lousy when 2 things happened - 8800GT and crysis.

Otherwise the GTS 320mb can still play current games (minus crysis) at acceptable frame rates and not too high a resolution.

If you look at the performance, it is GTS 320mb<GTS 640mb<GT<GTX<Ultra. However, due to the much cheaper price of the GT, the GT became the best price-for-performance card at the moment. Furthermore, an SLI 8800GT is more worth it as compared to a single GTX or ultra, with almost the same price point (if you don't mind the heat and noise).

As newer games and cards comes out, it would be difficult to recommend any options. For me, if you're not planning to buy-sell as newer products comes out, the safer way to go about it is to get the 8800GT as you can still SLI them in the future..... . Do note that current cards do not support DX10.1, although according to some sources, the DX10.1 has only minor improvements and current DX10 cards do support up to 90% of DX10.1 features (whatever that means.....) smile.gif

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 9 2007, 06:38 PM)
my opinion of the 640gts=the 8800gt

8800 gt looks good for FPS games
and the 8800gts looks better on RPS games which was pointed out by a forumer .. which i checked with benches was true.
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Interesting. Is it because of the different core (G80 vs G92)? Maybe it is the drivers.... hmm.gif

Anyway, there's only 2 advantages that I can think of for the 640mb GTS - that it channels hot air out the back (and would be good for a closed-case system) and the fan is not as loud if compared at the same speed. Other than that, the GT pwns the GTS 640mb..... sad.gif
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Looking at your link, I understand what you're saying. However, I think the most important factor now (when comparing to the 8800GT) is the price of 8800 GTS 640mb SCC. How much would it be?

If I understand that review, including the pictures, the card has the same designed as it's older brother, including the G80 GPU with the exception of the 112SP. If that is the case, (unless the prices of the old 8800GTS comes down quite a bit) the price will definitely be higher than that. To me, the 8800GT has the best price-for-performance ratio. For the GTS/GTX/Ultra, we are paying more premium for their performance, if you know what I mean.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Nov 9 2007, 09:42 PM)
Definitely the 8800gt has the price performance ratio king, but what's the point if there isnt enough power under the hood to drive the monitor you intend to get?  Obviously I have some money to burn - unfortunately that money is limited sad.gif

Gut instinct is telling me that now is a bad time to get a new pc with new tech coming very early next year.  But then i feel sorry for my bro who's gaming with a craptastic athlon pc and geforce 5200.  My current GTS320mb would make a great belated birthday present for him smile.gif
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No, what I'm stressing on is the price-performance ratio because if you have money and need power, everybody would then recommend the Ultra.... drool.gif

Haha, get him a new rig la PLUS the GTS 320mb... laugh.gif

Edit : How much is the GTS 640mb SCC? Cause the GTS 640mb is still selling for RM1300-1400 right? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Nov 10 2007, 07:36 PM)
hey bro i get what you mean now. my sli setup oc 648core / 2000mem / 1674 shader got only low 20s fps in crysis. setting was 1680*1050 high setting. and i was using only directx 9.  cry.gif

tried using dx10. the result? too embarrased to tell.
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The crysis demo doesn't support SLI. Wait for crysis to come out. Supposed to support SLI and quad-core at that time. smile.gif

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