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VincentCS
post Jun 26 2021, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Jun 25 2021, 04:29 PM)
Let's put things simple.

If everyone is given a poll to draw a Grand Prize, almost all will tick Landed over Condo.  smile.gif
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Yeah I think if money is no object, more space and privacy is always more favorable. But place like Sunway Velocity which offers more vibrant lifestyle has its own "attractiveness"

QUOTE(DragonReine @ Jun 25 2021, 01:50 PM)
In a commited relationship, but kids aren't for us. My GF has similar view to me, at least for medium term. We both want assessibility to work and convenience without sacrificing a million ringgit to loan for a landed property in KL, so a high-rise near city centre is our current home. Maybe near retirement I'll shift to a bit more outskirts, but not too far. I'm an urbanite at heart laugh.gif I prefer living near amenities even if it's "noisy".

My family (parents and siblings) actually prefer high rise living for similar reasons; my mom and dad wants to exercise in facilities, and they're glad they don't have to deal with lawn/garden upkeep directly 😂 we used to live in a double storey terrace near forest and later a large single storey semi-D in busy township near schools. I've moved to KL city while they remained in another state, but both sides shifted to high-rise. Theirs is a beach side property so slightly outskirts, but they like the high view and the breeze haha.

It really depends on personal priority, ultimately, high rise and landed have their own pros and cons. Can't say one is better than the other when individual preferences are different and can change over time.
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I can see the benefits of living high rises. But not so much for apartments as to Penthouses or Duplex, which are unique and are "sky condos". It's "Un-landed" as opposed to cramped high rises.
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post Jun 26 2021, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(LoTek @ Jun 26 2021, 01:08 PM)
Few mistress homes also can biggrin.gif
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Mistress always kept in high rises for obvious reasons: privacy, less nosey neighbor who would potentially snitch you out icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 27 2021, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(VincentCS @ Jun 26 2021, 08:16 PM)
Yeah I think if money is no object, more space and privacy is always more favorable. But place like Sunway Velocity which offers more vibrant lifestyle has its own "attractiveness"
I can see the benefits of living high rises. But not so much for apartments as to Penthouses or Duplex, which are unique and are "sky condos". It's "Un-landed" as opposed to cramped high rises.
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Velocity jiulai are you kidding me 😂😂😂 anytime publika win 99999 streets
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post Jun 27 2021, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Wynne2219 @ Jun 27 2021, 02:48 AM)
Velocity jiulai are you kidding me 😂😂😂 anytime publika win 99999 streets
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That was not a joke, I just take Velocity as an example never say it beats publika. why you so butthurt? Bought Arte Mont kiara at high price? Lol
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post Jun 27 2021, 12:01 PM

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Depends on budget and personal preference, each property class got their individual pros and cons.

Personally, I would choose condo with golf course views from the balcony.. drool.gif

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post Jun 27 2021, 02:28 PM

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Nowadays many threads open like for discussion but in fact agents use it to promote their selling projects.
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post Jun 27 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(VincentCS @ Jun 27 2021, 10:41 AM)
That was not a joke, I just take Velocity as an example never say it beats publika. why you so butthurt? Bought Arte Mont kiara at high price? Lol
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If example take a better want . Jiulai I kennot 😂😂😂
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post Jun 27 2021, 07:05 PM

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Depends you prefer to have land or just stay in a pigeon hole with thousands of other pigeons.

Landed is always better than condo most of the time. Regarding security. Spend a one time fee to install alarm system and CCTV. It’s your land, you are responsible to do what you need to do.

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post Jun 28 2021, 10:01 AM

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Different people have different requirements, expectations and limitations. What’s the best for you? For me, location and budget made the decision for me and family.

We wanted a bigger place in PJ (only location that we wanted), but we don’t have RM300k to RM500k cash lying around to buy a landed terrace house and fix it up.

So the decision then was to buy and move in to a new condo in PJ at 1/3 of the budget with the right amount of space, good security and facilities.










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post Jun 28 2021, 10:25 AM

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Replying as a Sarawakian property investor:-

Landed:-
1) Easy to renew land title when lease about to expire
2) Freedom to have pets
3) No car park issue as apartments usually here only give 1 car park which is really insufficient
4) After buying household products, just directly carry to the house from the car porch
5) Throwing the rubbish alone is direct at the door step
6) Road and drainage maintained by Council

Condo / Apartment:-
1) Hard time in renewing the strata title as most of the Sarawak properties not gone through the renewal of strata title process yet if not mistaken. It also needed to be renewed at one goal with the other units if I am not wrong.
2) Car park issue of only 1 car park
3) The variables of maintenance fee as maintenance fee will keep rise in line of inflation
4) The hassle to carry the household products such as 5kg oil and 10kg rice from the car to the unit
5) Throwing the rubbish needs to walk a certain distance
6) Road and drainage maintained by Management and charged to Owners, unless units with no gated and guarded like units above the shoplots, the road and drainage still maintained by the Council.
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post Jun 28 2021, 12:00 PM

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Been staying in high rise for 24 years of my life. Moving to a landed unit real soon as my first home.


High Rise (Pro)
1. Facilities (Gym and swimming pool)
2. Views (Depends on your facing)
3. Air Flow (Depends on your facing)
4. Less maintenance
5. Rare scenario if tsunami at least you are somewhat "safe"
6. High Rise usually is nearer to city
7. Multi tier security
8. Ample of space in facility deck for your kids to run around

High Rise (Con)
1. High car park need to turn many time and imagine forget something in car...
2. Lift, lift, lift, lift
3. Noise level as high rise is usually dense and near city
4. Maintenance fees higher than Landed
5. A lot of human contact (which I don't like)
6. Car park limited unless you rent or buy from someone
7. Most no PET FRIENDLY (I HAVE PETS)

Landed (Pro)
1. Park right infront of your doorstep, easy to get stuff in and out of car
2. Your unit with own porch and big yard to do your own hobby
3. No burden with maintenance fee (individual title), only security fee which is 300 ringgit cheaper usually
4. Landed usually bigger sqft than Condo
5. Your home is built on one piece of unique land in the entire world. (exclusive)
6. Road from guardhouse to home felt more spacious (not underground or high floor parking feel)
7. Most walls can be breakdown or extend to your needs (Individual title, *local approval)
8. Less human interaction, as you park inside your porch and that's it.
9. New landed is far from city, will be serene and quiet
10. Pet friendly woohoo

Landed (Con)
1. High maintenance
2. Tsunami you sure mati, since at most 3 storey high only
3. Parking issue if face stupid neighbors
4. If security not done right, easier to break in compared to Condo
5. Entry to Landed is not cheap, due to renovation cost most of the time is higher than Condo with no furnishing
6. Other than your unit space, not much space for kids to move around and utilize facilities. (unless you are strata title with clubhouse, and Gated or guarded community)
7. New landed are built further away from city

This post has been edited by jeffboon97: Jun 28 2021, 12:01 PM
wejazzitup
post Jun 28 2021, 06:42 PM

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I thought landed is safer when it comes to Tsunami?

When Tsunami strikes, there is a higher risk of collapse for condo. And may not be able to rin down in time...

QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ Jun 28 2021, 12:00 PM)
Been staying in high rise for 24 years of my life. Moving to a landed unit real soon as my first home.
High Rise (Pro)
1. Facilities (Gym and swimming pool)
2. Views (Depends on your facing)
3. Air Flow (Depends on your facing)
4. Less maintenance
5. Rare scenario if tsunami at least you are somewhat "safe"
6. High Rise usually is nearer to city
7. Multi tier security
8. Ample of space in facility deck for your kids to run around

High Rise (Con)
1. High car park need to turn many time and imagine forget something in car...
2. Lift, lift, lift, lift
3. Noise level as high rise is usually dense and near city
4. Maintenance fees higher than Landed
5. A lot of human contact (which I don't like)
6. Car park limited unless you rent or buy from someone
7. Most no PET FRIENDLY (I HAVE PETS)

Landed (Pro)
1. Park right infront of your doorstep, easy to get stuff in and out of car
2. Your unit with own porch and big yard to do your own hobby
3. No burden with maintenance fee (individual title), only security fee which is 300 ringgit cheaper usually
4. Landed usually bigger sqft than Condo
5. Your home is built on one piece of unique land in the entire world. (exclusive)
6. Road from guardhouse to home felt more spacious (not underground or high floor parking feel)
7. Most walls can be breakdown or extend to your needs (Individual title, *local approval)
8. Less human interaction, as you park inside your porch and that's it.
9. New landed is far from city, will be serene and quiet
10. Pet friendly woohoo

Landed (Con)
1. High maintenance
2. Tsunami you sure mati, since at most 3 storey high only
3. Parking issue if face stupid neighbors
4. If security not done right, easier to break in compared to Condo
5. Entry to Landed is not cheap, due to renovation cost most of the time is higher than Condo with no furnishing
6. Other than your unit space, not much space for kids to move around and utilize facilities. (unless you are strata title with clubhouse, and Gated or guarded community)
7. New landed are built further away from city
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This post has been edited by wejazzitup: Jun 28 2021, 06:43 PM
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post Jun 28 2021, 06:59 PM

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True for all your points but provided you are referring to individual landed

Thing is, there is thing thing called strata landed where the concept is very much like a condo except that your parcel (unit) is landed - hence you will have a management, pay maintenance fees, and all the house rules imposed just like condo. Of course you still get to park right in front of your doorstep unlike a condo.

Most of the new landed developments today in major cities and even its immediate outskirts, or even the outskirts of the outskirts are strata landed. You'll hardly find any more individual landed developments today. Unless of course you will still find them at secondary towns, or in major cities, you get a subsale house.

QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ Jun 28 2021, 12:00 PM)
Landed (Pro)
1. Park right infront of your doorstep, easy to get stuff in and out of car
2. Your unit with own porch and big yard to do your own hobby
3. No burden with maintenance fee (individual title), only security fee which is 300 ringgit cheaper usually
4. Landed usually bigger sqft than Condo
5. Your home is built on one piece of unique land in the entire world. (exclusive)
6. Road from guardhouse to home felt more spacious (not underground or high floor parking feel)
7. Most walls can be breakdown or extend to your needs (Individual title, *local approval)
8. Less human interaction, as you park inside your porch and that's it.
9. New landed is far from city, will be serene and quiet
10. Pet friendly woohoo

Landed (Con)
1. High maintenance
2. Tsunami you sure mati, since at most 3 storey high only
3. Parking issue if face stupid neighbors
4. If security not done right, easier to break in compared to Condo
5. Entry to Landed is not cheap, due to renovation cost most of the time is higher than Condo with no furnishing
6. Other than your unit space, not much space for kids to move around and utilize facilities. (unless you are strata title with clubhouse, and Gated or guarded community)
7. New landed are built further away from city
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post Jun 28 2021, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(jolmy @ Jun 28 2021, 06:59 PM)
True for all your points but provided you are referring to individual landed

Thing is, there is thing thing called strata landed where the concept is very much like a condo except that your parcel (unit) is landed - hence you will have a management, pay maintenance fees, and all the house rules imposed just like condo. Of course you still get to park right in front of your doorstep unlike a condo.

Most of the new landed developments today in major cities and even its immediate outskirts, or even the outskirts of the outskirts are strata landed. You'll hardly find any more individual landed developments today. Unless of course you will still find them at secondary towns, or in major cities, you get a subsale house.
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True, mine is the rare individual title new development. But strata development definitely have its benefit especially when it comes to troublesome neighbors who refuse to pay fees. thumbsup.gif
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post Jun 29 2021, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ Jun 28 2021, 08:45 PM)
True, mine is the rare individual title new development. But strata development definitely have its benefit especially when it comes to troublesome neighbors who refuse to pay fees. thumbsup.gif
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Ya, there are pros & cons with both individual & strata landed.

Personally, I still prefer the individual landed housing - shifted from a high-rise only recently - I bought it subsale late last year. It is gated & guarded operated by the Residents Assoc (RA) and participation is voluntarily but encouraged, but no compulsion.

I cannot accept the strata landed type because I do not want to be bound by so many rules - I cannot even paint my exterior wall with my choice of colour, fence & gate (if there is any to begin with) or even extend the kitchen. Yet, I have to pay quite a hefty amount of maintenance fees for all the facilities provided when I hardly even utilize them at the first place, when all I need is some security.
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QUOTE(jolmy @ Jun 29 2021, 09:52 AM)
Ya, there are pros & cons with both individual & strata landed.

Personally, I still prefer the individual landed housing - shifted from a high-rise only recently - I bought it subsale late last year. It is gated & guarded operated by the Residents Assoc (RA) and participation is voluntarily but encouraged, but no compulsion.

I cannot accept the strata landed type because I do not want to be bound by so many rules - I cannot even paint my exterior wall with my choice of colour, fence & gate (if there is any to begin with) or even extend the kitchen. Yet, I have to pay quite a hefty amount of maintenance fees for all the facilities provided when I hardly even utilize them at the first place, when all I need is some security.
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There is an option in f&g which ll stay away fr all the Strata rules

Can reno gao gao oso unlike g&g
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post Jun 29 2021, 01:57 PM

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I think a possible advantage of strata landed is that en bloc sales is possible in the future if enough quota is met ... few generations down the road, development land could be hard to come by... of course it is very far fetched and only applies to freehold land
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QUOTE(jolmy @ Jun 28 2021, 06:59 PM)
True for all your points but provided you are referring to individual landed

Thing is, there is thing thing called strata landed where the concept is very much like a condo except that your parcel (unit) is landed - hence you will have a management, pay maintenance fees, and all the house rules imposed just like condo. Of course you still get to park right in front of your doorstep unlike a condo.

Most of the new landed developments today in major cities and even its immediate outskirts, or even the outskirts of the outskirts are strata landed. You'll hardly find any more individual landed developments today. Unless of course you will still find them at secondary towns, or in major cities, you get a subsale house.
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QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ Jun 28 2021, 08:45 PM)
True, mine is the rare individual title new development. But strata development definitely have its benefit especially when it comes to troublesome neighbors who refuse to pay fees. :thumbsup:
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Strata landed owner also needs to pay for services e.g landscaping, street lighting, maintenance, cleaning, management, etc normally provided by local council, can be a considerable amount.

whether can park your car on the roadside (i.e outside your boundary) right in front of your house or visitor car park is subject to house rule.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 29 2021, 06:23 PM
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post Jun 30 2021, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 29 2021, 06:04 PM)
Strata landed owner also needs to pay for services e.g landscaping, street lighting, maintenance, cleaning, management, etc normally provided by local council, can be a considerable amount.
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And on top of that, you still need to pay your assessment tax to your local council...
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QUOTE(jolmy @ Jun 30 2021, 01:47 PM)
And on top of that, you still need to pay your assessment tax to your local council...
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Which those promoting landed strata conveniently omit to mention.


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