can't even consider landed within klang valley if you don't have the budget

What's more important is location.

U get nice landed Semi-D or Bungalow but next to high dense high rise / Rumawip, day in day out left right up down parking full also sucks.

High rise less likely to rob your house, thats for sure

Depend on your situation. Boss no need go to work on time, they can stay further with nice bungalow and keep privacy. Investors also stay at home whole day doing investment through computer, location not that important to them. Normal employee has to go office on time, so has to stay at high rise near to cbd.
All in all still depend on how rich you are. Those cons in landed can easily solved up by dollars.

This post has been edited by ryan@chua: Jun 24 2021, 03:07 PM

Landed

Pros - generally more living space, no need drive up/down few floors to park your car, no need wait for lifts
Cons - more to maintain especially after a few years when the exterior starts to deteriorate, less secure compared to condos, no facilities to enjoy unless got clubhouse nearby, some neighbours can potentially be a pain in the ass when it comes to parking issues or during renovation

Condo

Pros - more secure, got facilities to be used, less things to be maintained (generally less internal space, exterior or common areas not your duty to maintain)
Cons - if got noisy neighbours upstairs who like to stomp their feet it's not a pleasant experience, if got pipe leaking that's from upper floor it can be a pain if upstairs neighbours not cooperative, need to wait for lifts

However, when it comes to own stay, I'll just share my personal experience here.

I've been staying on landed for most of my life.
Except during university time, and first few years of work, I stayed in apartment.

I would still prefer landed over high rise despite a few drawbacks, such as less decent neighbors who park their cars everywhere but inside their own house, stray dogs roaming in the neighhborhood, road accessible by public, etc. Reason is because for landed, I have more flexibility, my car is within my doorstep, and I can do gardening I wanted to. I prefer double storey landed for its number of rooms. Also to me, I dont really use the facilities most of the time when I stayed in apartment, probably less than 10%.
The downside here is , your neighbor might be burning some grass, planting some type of vegetation that crawls to your wall, keep pets that are smelly and noisy, hang their cloths or mats on the shared wall for drying, always bring people have party at their backyard, etc. To me, Im used to it, and do enjoy these little things in life.
Having good neighbor is a plus point, can help each other jaga rumah when one is not around.
Security wise may be compromised once in a bluemoon, might get broken into by burglars, but only happened less than 5 times in 30 years?

Highrise also got its pros, like security, privacy etc. But to me, I find it highrise is too compact for my liking, and not every room has windows for fresh air. For temporary space, I am fine. But permanently and to raise a family, I would still prefer landed. I dont like to share lifts with people every day, and also dont like the idea of walking a distance to my car. There's also no proper place to hang cloths dry for a typical apartment layout. I also felt constricted to one space within the apartment. During MCO times like this, I definitely do not prefer highrise if can.

Last point is strata vs individual title. Owning that piece of land via individual title feels more secure in my personal opinion. Not to say strata isnt secure, its just that the sense of belonging is more pronounce with individual title. Renewing individual title is much easier. Hence, a good landed, can be a good multi-generational home. (provided you like the idea of staying with parents and kids, then pass on the property to your kids when they grow up).

But understand that you are coming from klang valley perspective, where owning landed is far beyond reach of many average locals. I am speaking as a Sarawakian staying in Sarawak, where old landed houses can still be around 500k-700k in the city.




This post has been edited by Michaelbyz23: Jun 24 2021, 04:19 PM

landed: larger space as you can do things freely around esp if you like gardening, distance walk to get your car ready or easier surveillance, resale value (depends on location) but it maybe more expensive if in high demand area, security fee or own cctv maintenance etc

condo: facilities such as gym, pool etc, could be lower price than landed, rental is a good cash income (investement purpose) but monthly maintenance fee may kill, less parking space, noisy neighbor, pets restriction etc

have you survey area or any projects that you interested with? maybe with info can share more with you!

Prefer to choose condo: -
1. Security
High-rises always come with multi-tiered security, and it gives sense of security to the resident.
2. Facilities
Generally will come with a few facilities, such as swimming pool, gym, sauna room, multipurpose hall, etc. Also can hold a party in their compound.
3. Easy maintenance & housekeeping
A Bigger house require lots of hours to clean and maintain. Just a basic sweep and mopping can be tiring. However, with just 1000sft condo, it’s easier to clean up.
4.Affordability
High-rises is a bright move because paying RM2000++ instalment a month seem to be still within affordability compare to RM4000++ a month for a new landed houses.
5. Lower Furnishing Cost
Depending on the size of the unit, you could end up needing only a minimal furniture and furnishings.

1. Security, buy landed with g&g inside a proper township. Buy bungalows with body guards
2. Facilities, buy landed with club house, Facilities, more spaces for party
3. Landed got many store rooms to keep your stuff. Easier for housekeeping.
4. Yes. Main point is dollars, if rich enough 101% landed better.

Depends on the quality of the Condo. The partition, design, etc... on my previous condo, sound proof is so bad that you can hear the falling coin, moving chairs, etc from the floor above you. One disadvantages that I experienced, some of my neighbors has no regard with noise. For example, they will shut the door/gate so loud as if they want to destroy it. Haha. It's annoying if you are sleeping.


However, on where I'm staying now, it's calm.. quiet.. no noise issue.

What I don't like about a condo by the way, if you are non-smoker and your neighbors are, there's a good chance you can smell it. Coz more often than not, they will smoke in a balcony or window which is parallel to your unit.

This is my concern for landed house. How's the security? I know it depends on location but in general, that's what I fear the most.

I work at night, so have to leave my wife and kids in the evening to go to work. Right now, it's not an issue since it's work from home but when it's back to normal, this is one of my concerns.

Yes, highly dependent on location.
Nowadays not very common anymore at my area, but about 10-15 years ago was the last time it happened, if i remember correctly.

Usually happens when we travel for over 1 or 2 weeks, away from home.
Or during election time when the entire neighborhood went for election campaign talks,
Or it can be on a random night when everyone's asleep (quite rare).

Bear in mind, we do not have dogs, or CCTV. Gates and walls are easily to be climbed.
If you want to enhance security, there are many ways, you can install CCTV and alarm system.

My brother's house had only 1 break in for over 10+ years. After installing CCTV + alarm, no more such cases anymore.

I'm staying in a condo where its subsale value is near RM1m. I can hear + feel my neighbour's kid crying + screaming + stomping the floor next door, till I can feel its vibration even when I'm sitting on my sofa. Then upstairs also got kid stomping the floor. Double whammy. Super regret staying here. Will definitely try to move to landed.

More space never goes out of style. Particularly if you have or are starting a family.

My vote for landed if we’re looking at a more agrarian lifestyle. Still relatively lucky in this country where landed can be affordable.

That being said for mobile people, singles. Apartment living is fuss free and provides a lot of convenience.

of course is landed, bungalow also consider landed.

you use condo fight with bungalow?

Same, except the value of my condo is around RM600k. I can hear and feel the kids next door when they're jumping and stomping and when the kids upstairs are running around. Think the newer condos built in 2010 onwards have really bad soundproofing, regardless of price (unless we're talking about the ulta-luxe condos over RM1.5 million).

Previously, I stayed at my friend's apartment (which was built around 2001-2002) and the soundproofing was pretty good. Couldn't even hear the stomping or foot noise from the above unit, unless they were hammering something, and that apartment cost less than my current condo.

My landed over 20yrs never has rob case
Make your landed not that attractive to burglar, visible cctv, alarm bell, and sure some invisible for emergency in case. Stay low profile, drive branded cars but don't show off, park into your car porch immediately. Stay alert everytime in/out

I stayed in the condo for over 10 years, noise from the above unit really hard to avoid, can't wait to move to g&g landed that will VP next year.

Same here. My working hours are quite random. Sometimes go out at night, sometimes outstation. So my family's safety is always my priority.

I always feel condo is safer because it's a single entry. You can only come in and out from the front door (unless you are staying same level as facility). Compared to a landed, they can break in through front, back, side sliding door, room.

i think sometimes theres really an element of luck in decisions.

just recently a very branded and expensive condo in pj was revealed to have chronic lift problems. and yes ive been to many so called high end 1m< condos that did not feel solidly built at all..yet my first home, a "cheap" apt built in early 90s, only the units facing the pool have noise problems, and only when opening the windows.

my client's bungalow enclave has an army of guards, high tech security, all the works, yet few years back, a group of amazing burglars overpowered the guards and wore their uniforms, basically taking over the area for about half a day while they broke in house by house at their convenience. but my friend staying for over 15 years in a non gng landed, in a really slum area, and she walks a fair distance to the bus everyday, somehow has never got robbed.

renting first is good, to check out the real experience as much as possible.

This post has been edited by LoTek: Jun 25 2021, 11:23 AM

that is many factories need to consider for a condo and landed, the most important will be the purpose of purchase (own stay, investment, investment also got two purpose : rental yield or capital growth), location and budget.

Assuming same budget, then landed must be either cons in location, quality of environment, amenities, built up etc. Since you are not compare apple to apple, then it is hard to make conclusion, it will subjected to your need.

This topic is same to someone like to argue FH or LH which is better. Everyone also know FH is better, land title is not the only factor to make conclusion, just like you compared a LH in Bandar Utama, and FH in Puchong, not everyone have the same conclusion that which one is better, still subjected to individual need.

Most of the people choose condo because of location, budget, facilities and also security
Most of the people choose landed because of bigger built up, pet friendly, and convenience to access car park, and most important thing during COVID-19 pandemic is no need to share lift with others

This post has been edited by chainyong: Jun 25 2021, 12:27 PM