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post Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM, updated 5y ago

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So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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post Jun 18 2021, 12:24 PM

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post Jun 18 2021, 12:24 PM

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post Jun 18 2021, 12:24 PM

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post Jun 18 2021, 12:25 PM

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C. 35km is nothing.
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post Jun 18 2021, 12:26 PM

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Company C and "relocate"/move to somewhere nearer.
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QUOTE(CZero @ Jun 18 2021, 12:24 PM)
kuda thread? kuda thread.
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Not kuda. Wan some input from u guys.
If company B, sometimes if u really outperform, can get increment two times per year. All others only once per year
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go C

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how u gonna arrange ur leave when u have interview while working in current job? wat reason u put to avoid any awkwardness?

how u gonna deal with both parties (current employer & new company) during this resign period?
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post Jun 18 2021, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(brkli @ Jun 18 2021, 12:26 PM)
Company C and "relocate"/move to somewhere nearer.
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post Jun 18 2021, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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Your 33 % increase over the 28% can cover for the extra 54km? laugh.gif
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post Jun 18 2021, 12:27 PM

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I always prioritise distance over salary
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post Jun 18 2021, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Jun 18 2021, 12:26 PM)
how u gonna arrange ur leave when u have interview while working in current job? wat reason u put to avoid any awkwardness?

how u gonna deal with both parties (current employer & new company) during this resign period?
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Unfortunately my job no wfh. So when got interviews, i take AL. I got quite a lot AL so its no issue. Of course take only 1 day each time.

Resign time just give resign letter to my current employer once new one everythg done and confirmed (medical checkup, official offer letter given, etc). No awkward. No company will die without an employee.
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ask B if can match C first
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post Jun 18 2021, 12:30 PM

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post Jun 18 2021, 12:30 PM

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post Jun 18 2021, 12:31 PM

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If possible, dig around for info on each company's current financial situation and potential for growth/decline.

In these uncertain times, I'd say job stability is quite important.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 18 2021, 12:27 PM)
Your 33 % increase over the 28% can cover for the extra 54km?  laugh.gif
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Can. Because on top of the 33%, got travel allowance as need to pass toll also. Cover more even.

But company B can give two times increment if performance good. My performance not bad one hehe.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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C - higher salary , work life balance

what else can u ask for ??????????????????
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post Jun 18 2021, 12:31 PM

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C. ANgmoh company
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I travel further than that for my daily commute before covid, just go for C if you don't mind looking for good shortcuts & time that doesn't involve traffic jams
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:31 PM)
Can. Because on top of the 33%, got travel allowance as need to pass toll also. Cover more even.

But company B can give two times increment if performance good. My performance not bad one hehe.
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Then take C.
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post Jun 18 2021, 12:32 PM

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post Jun 18 2021, 12:33 PM

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C.

later B sucks, then u regret why didnt go to higher offer..
If C sucks, then u can say u at least accept highest offer
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Obvious answer

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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Don't just look at the gross monthly salary increase but the other things like EPF deduction to know your actual compensation. Chances are A and B might be quite stingy with your EPF deductions. For me, I'd take C. 35 km away is no big deal if they are compensating your toll or fuel. For me work life balance more important anyway. I'd rather use my free time for doing other stuff.
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Already bought new house and staying. Sayang to rent out...
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Where you live?
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QUOTE(teutonic @ Jun 18 2021, 12:36 PM)
Where you live?
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Bayan lepas. Company A and C at batu kawan. company B also at bayan lepas lol
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C.

If this is really big MNC, this will carry more weight in the future you jump to your next higher job & position
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Bayan lepas. Company A and C at batu kawan. company B also at bayan lepas lol
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I would prefer Bayan lepas also.
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Jun 18 2021, 12:26 PM)
how u gonna arrange ur leave when u have interview while working in current job? wat reason u put to avoid any awkwardness?

how u gonna deal with both parties (current employer & new company) during this resign period?
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Take MC saja.

And some of it take EL.

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:38 PM)
Bayan lepas. Company A and C at batu kawan. company B also at bayan lepas lol
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go buy house at Aspen City. laugh.gif
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feels like the economy wasnt that bad as reported? unless TS is really a talent?
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So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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company C. Nowadays with current pandemic situation $$ is 1st criteria unless you orang kaya la...

anyway you so lucky lo can get job.. many outside jobless leh.... sad.gif
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i can drive max 25km ( 50km daily)

ts very rich. congratulations
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Not kuda. Wan some input from u guys.
If company B, sometimes if u really outperform, can get increment two times per year. All others only once per year
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laugh.gif most companies with those the "outperform" usually means lick lick boss one. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jun 18 2021, 12:40 PM)
feels like the economy wasnt that bad as reported? unless TS is really a talent?
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yeah wo how come read everywhere and saw news on tv somewhere say many jobless ppl outside leh??? Maybe TS lucky lo....
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C. Definitely C. Although 8km is quite tempting.
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Company C of course

Btw, i thought you run kedai dobi
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Bayan lepas. Company A and C at batu kawan. company B also at bayan lepas lol
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U stay in bayan lepas which area?
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35km in kulim or science park?
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Avoid c.

Company A Gamuda not bad.

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Can. Because on top of the 33%, got travel allowance as need to pass toll also. Cover more even.

But company B can give two times increment if performance good. My performance not bad one hehe.
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brows.gif brows.gif

taiwanese company? have they actually promoted someone twice in a year?

or its just a review, so called ' nevermind you can try again 6 months later'

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jun 18 2021, 12:40 PM)
feels like the economy wasnt that bad as reported? unless TS is really a talent?
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Economy is bad. Trust me. My laundry profits also affected quite a lot.
Also i got do a lot of projects with proof and i can talk to people. So those are my selling points.
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Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
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ayam duno why it's so difficult for most people to figure this out.

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Bayan lepas. Company A and C at batu kawan. company B also at bayan lepas lol
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C je la, cb thought klang valley, u bayan lepas go mainland the road where gt jam in morning

ayam jelly lettew
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Jun 18 2021, 12:41 PM)
i can drive max 25km ( 50km daily)

ts very rich. congratulations
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Thanks but im just average joe with 30 years old rempit sentra hehe
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Already bought new house and staying. Sayang to rent out...
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Bayan lepas. Company A and C at batu kawan. company B also at bayan lepas lol
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sell or leave your house alone and wait price go up then sell. and buy another or rent house at batu kawan..
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QUOTE(achong09 @ Jun 18 2021, 12:41 PM)
yeah wo how come read everywhere and saw news on tv somewhere say many jobless ppl outside leh??? Maybe TS lucky lo....
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Actually im quite good at talking with people. And it helps when im performing at my current job also.
When i was working part time during university days, i always become top salesman in pc shops that hired me lol
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:31 PM)
Can. Because on top of the 33%, got travel allowance as need to pass toll also. Cover more even.

But company B can give two times increment if performance good. My performance not bad one hehe.
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Performance good?
I doubt it.
How do your current company evaluate you?
Is it you superior put you average in every year end and you sense your superior under evaluate you and feel you deserve more?
Don't be overconfident eventhough you working in MNC.
Office politics always affect your workplace.

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 18 2021, 12:43 PM)
Company C of course

Btw, i thought you run kedai dobi
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I memang got kedai dobi ah. Two jobs, two income lor. Follow our beloved ministers advise.

Im angineer and also have kedai dobi.
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jun 18 2021, 12:57 PM)
Performance good?
I doubt it.
How do your current company evaluate you?
Is it you superior put you average in every year end and you sense your superior under evaluate you and feel you deserve more?
Don't be overconfident eventhough you working in MNC.
Office politics always affect your workplace.
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Yes i know office politics are a nightmare..
Now current company already give me A ratings. Bonus also good. But if i jump, goes up a lot wor. Also current company more and more workload. They like to give work to people who can do work. Cannot or slow work one let them wfh, i come work everyday although same department. Mati lor not fair at all.
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jun 18 2021, 12:49 PM)
35km in kulim or science park?
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Batu kawan.
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jun 18 2021, 12:52 PM)
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taiwanese company? have they actually promoted someone twice in a year?

or its just a review, so called ' nevermind you can try again 6 months later'
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Haha yeah this is very possible also. Takut also hahaha
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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company B coz less travel time. But kena OT hmmm

Company C, work life balance but stuck in traffic... unless u work in small city I guess the travel time should be fine?

go for C???
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TS, best to ask the people working inside that company.

ask your friends
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Easily to choose. C due to Work life balanced plus ur performance by ur goodself....unless u are a team player not solo individual

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So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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35km is not a problem, problem is how much time you need to travel that 35km. If travel distance is not a problem, C sounds like a good choice
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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If angmoh company but bosses all local then it'll be bout the same wan, bosses expectations wise.

QUOTE(Jasonist @ Jun 18 2021, 12:26 PM)
how u gonna arrange ur leave when u have interview while working in current job? wat reason u put to avoid any awkwardness?

how u gonna deal with both parties (current employer & new company) during this resign period?
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You apply leave need to state reason wan meh?
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C
ayam duno why it's so difficult for most people to figure this out.
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Some very stress till cant take it d.. cannot judge too much also la actually unless we know their situation.
Got 1 guy in my company stress until kena mini stroke and become cannot talk n shaking. Go hospital check kena mini stroke d. Immediately no more come work. Then he go find other company to work after he rest few months.
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I memang got kedai dobi ah. Two jobs, two income lor. Follow our beloved ministers advise.

Im angineer and also have kedai dobi.
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Ditch all, focus dobi

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Go for A...kasi hentam OT but watching netflix instead
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U ingat saya technician with loose responsibility ka?
Probably a lot of work with tight schedule, makan dinner also will probably late, somemore wan netflix?
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Yes i know office politics are a nightmare..
Now current company already give me A ratings. Bonus also good. But if i jump, goes up a lot wor. Also current company more and more workload. They like to give work to people who can do work. Cannot or slow work one let them wfh, i come work everyday although same department. Mati lor not fair at all.
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Ok. That's good.
Given your circumstances, please cabut immediately.
I was in your shoes when I working in MNC years ago.
The product engineering department alot of deadwood.
Unfortunate as a typical Jap MNC, they practiced seniority.
On the 5th year, I tried to change to other division (already agreed by the division director) but got stuck by Factory Manager.
Reason: I'm very important for the production side.
Unluckily lucky on 6th year I being under a very great mentor Japanese Technical Advisor, learned alot from him.
Stay on until 11th year then resign after my mentor return to Japan.
All this 11 year, never got promotion. Just work hard only.
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Pffftt.. 35km. Ada hati panggil orang lain strawberry.

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Company C straight lol
Better increment and worklife balance
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Option C.

I drive 41km to work everyday... another 41km back. But I enjoy driving cos got modded car like you. And modded car ppl need to curi tulang to go workshop or DIY fix own car... hopefully option C gives you that freedom.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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Pick C as 1st choice, just extra 20+ Km is nothing much, perk is angmoh company - less tendency to cinaman management style. HR policy is strict and structured, no nonsense.
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35km already cant tahan, mine is 70km, kek
if me, i would go for company c
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Which one got nicer office?
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No D?

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Company C of course. Use the increment to move closer to company. Win win
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I rather choose c, at those pay grade, relocating should be very affordable.
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C.

Not because angmoh company.

But because Taiwanese company no different from Chinaman. For example, Foxconn name only Taiwan but work ethics sebiji Chinaman.

Silap silap kena forced to go back office during pandemic, then end up need to go swab. Happened to my gf. Company burn 60k for swab test. At least 60k. After that no more go back to office. All WFH.

Second, OT is a big no no. You find yourself stressed out worse than Chinaman company later.
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jun 18 2021, 01:49 PM)
So many % increase
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Some ktards say they get 50% increment.. so me still quite low..
But my industry standard is 15%
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jun 18 2021, 01:49 PM)
So many % increase
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30% increase when jumping is normal lah.

That's the bar to request for an increment. My last job at a bank 3k, after jump, 4k++, more than 40%, iirc its actually more than 50%. Now stay at 5k++ at another job.

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So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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Which of the 3 boss you like better? That's the one you choose that make or break your career.


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You like to drive ma.. so better choose company C.
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Company C but no OT but more travel time.
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Which of the 3 boss you like better? That's the one you choose that make or break your career.
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I dont really know them. But so far company B boss seems to be the most likeable in the 1 hour+ interview session la. But its too short to make any judgement on how his work ethics are like.
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From my experienced, chinapek or taiwanese companies expected you to work part A, B, C D and etc while angmo only you to focus on part A (don't cross line to B, C D because the task has been assigned to someone else to handle it)

35 km may seem far away but you could go back on time.

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Go for C, you will regret being in company B and you need to find another job in 6 months.

More opportunities for growth.
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go for higher salary plus ang mo boss, i work with ang mo before so anything can be discussed unlike china boss
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If Boston Scientific or Western Digital at Batu Kawan, just take it.

A must be Vitrox

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C la.
Mana ada traffic.
2nd bridge myvi fly at 200kmh slamber je.
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If Boston Scientific or Western Digital at Batu Kawan, just take it.

A must be Vitrox
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Could be Micron.
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since you are asking, this means you are not completely sold on the 5% salary gap
that makes things simple, what other non monetary things you value more than 5% salary?
timesheet vs. non timesheet? flexi hours? nice proper pantry? seating arrangement? staff parking? checkin/checkout? cutecute team mates? clean comfy wc? other things that tickle your fancy thumbsup.gif
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C la.
Mana ada traffic.
2nd bridge myvi fly at 200kmh slamber je.
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Traffic is smooth from island to batu kawan on 2nd bridge
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QUOTE(bumpo @ Jun 18 2021, 02:14 PM)
since you are asking, this means you are not completely sold on the 5% salary gap
that makes things simple, what other non monetary things you value more than 5% salary?
timesheet vs. non timesheet? flexi hours? nice proper pantry? seating arrangement? staff parking? checkin/checkout? cutecute team mates? clean comfy wc? other things that tickle your fancy  :thumbsup:
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Hmmm...not so emphasize on those things. Just attracted company B can give two times increment in 1 year if outstanding performance. Others company C is generally more nicer / comfy. Angmoh company mer.
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Hmmm...not so emphasize on those things. Just attracted company B can give two times increment in 1 year if outstanding performance. Others company C is generally more nicer / comfy. Angmoh company mer.
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QUOTE(kembayang @ Jun 18 2021, 09:12 AM)
Could be Micron.
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Micron is a huge US company. Can't be A.
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See seems like C is a worthy choice. If the culture is positive, the extra distance shouldn't matter much.

The other option is closer but the chance of stress and other negative aspects might outweigh the petrol, toll and congestion with higher pay.

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C seems better. But I've had a job with almost 80km back and forth daily, once you start being bored and miserable, very easily performance drop because the distance will be the first thing to hinder your motivation. Choose wisely. Plus need to consider, 8km jam is nothing compared to 38km jam. If you ride high cc bike sure help.

Tho I read in one news article before, worker with the longest daily distance to go to work die faster.
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i propose company D.
Better salary and nearer.
But good for you to find job first b4 resigning unlike some ktards.
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C. But is jam worth it? But work life balance more happy in long run. And your portfolio better la in angmo company.

OT not worth it. Anyone that accepts OT is a norm should go die.
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I dont really know them. But so far company B boss seems to be the most likeable in the 1 hour+ interview session la. But its too short to make any judgement on how his work ethics are like.
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The interviewer is your direct boss? Go with gut instinct on this, it will tell you which one something not right. Straight away cross that out. Your gut is very good at detecting red flags, don't ignore it.
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travel 35km including 20+km penang 2nd bridge....
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C la.
Mana ada traffic.
2nd bridge myvi fly at 200kmh slamber je.
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True.
35km sounds far but it is only 10~15minutes drive
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Some very stress till cant take it d.. cannot judge too much also la actually unless we know their situation.
Got 1 guy in my company stress until kena mini stroke and become cannot talk n shaking. Go hospital check kena mini stroke d. Immediately no more come work. Then he go find other company to work after he rest few months.
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So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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still as kuli life no difference
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C lor..35km. just drive leisure la. pump out music. far not matter as long as going work relax, come back sleep at night also can sleep peacefully.

no point near, but going to work so stressful
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angmo culture > all

35km ? i ride kapcai 40km in 30 min, sometimes 20. slow2 can go 40.

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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jun 18 2021, 03:31 PM)
still as kuli life no difference
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for TS kuli life is ok for him
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I am boss and also kuli. Laundry boss and angineer.
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then u should plan thinking on how on ur laundry expansion .. 1 -2 - 3 shops ++ and so on
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So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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B

Taiwanese culture not like Chinamen , but it could be like Japan/Korea way means boss will fcuk ppl openly and bad temper
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show off tered? on serious note B and C is quite ideal and since u alrd stated 35km guess u alrd choose B
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Company C of course.

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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Come unker advise you - principle engineer in MNC.
Pick the one that have better career trajectory.

Reason for you leaving also makes a different.
If you're burn out with current role, jumping to same role with higher pay is going to burn you again.

I wouldn't want to hop to ABC and doing same role again. What's the point? sweat.gif
In terms of compensation and benefit, your skills set is what they pay you for. The more you know and can do, the more moolah they pay you.
So rotate roles every 3-5 years.

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QUOTE(shakku @ Jun 18 2021, 03:54 PM)
Come unker advise you - principle engineer in MNC.
Pick the one that have better career trajectory.

Reason for you leaving also makes a different.
If you're burn out with current role, jumping to same role with higher pay is going to burn you again.

I wouldn't want to hop to ABC and doing same role again. What's the point?  sweat.gif
In terms of compensation and benefit, your skills set is what they pay you for. The more you know and can do, the more moolah they pay you.
So rotate roles every 3-5 years.
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some real advise here

To TS: ask yourself, what you need and what are you trying to achieve by changing job, and you will have the answer
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Can get so high increase when job hop 1?
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QUOTE(shakku @ Jun 18 2021, 03:54 PM)
Come unker advise you - principle engineer in MNC.
Pick the one that have better career trajectory.

Reason for you leaving also makes a different.
If you're burn out with current role, jumping to same role with higher pay is going to burn you again.

I wouldn't want to hop to ABC and doing same role again. What's the point?  sweat.gif
In terms of compensation and benefit, your skills set is what they pay you for. The more you know and can do, the more moolah they pay you.
So rotate roles every 3-5 years.
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Thanks for the advise unker. I will keep in mind on this when i making my final decision
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If you're a family man or plan to have family, better go for C. Travelling a little more is nothing compare to longer working hours.

If you're still challenging yourself, follow your heart and never look back. Opportunity come & go when it's time due.

Of course you know it better whether all these potential locations will make you sit in traffic or not, will stress you during your daily commute etc. Only you can decide which is 'balanced'.

Spending 1.5hrs in traffic is similar to work OT. Then leave the office after peak hour and reach home almost at the same time as if you go through the traffic.
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Everyone needs to come together and push against OT culture.

Life is more than just about work.
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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Jun 18 2021, 04:03 PM)
some real advise here

To TS: ask yourself, what you need and what are you trying to achieve by changing job, and you will have the answer
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But still lose to you 1 SGD = 3 MYR wink.gif
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jun 18 2021, 04:16 PM)
Can get so high increase when job hop 1?
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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Which industry are u in?

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 01:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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Is just salary and OT your main considerations? How about career advancement and upskilling yourself? I would advise to consider other points with a longer term view - if your situation and ambitions permit. Things to also compare:

The industry - is the company in a sunset industry?
Opportunities to manage and develop others - sole contributor? team size?
Attitude of superior(s) towards teaching
Opportunity to become a manager (assuming manager is the next level)

My own experience when I was younger is that I usually took the road less travelled, and generally that has paid off for me.
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QUOTE(okyjace @ Jun 18 2021, 04:44 PM)
Is just salary and OT your main considerations? How about career advancement and upskilling yourself? I would advise to consider other points with a longer term view - if your situation and ambitions permit. Things to also compare:

The industry - is the company in a sunset industry?
Opportunities to manage and develop others - sole contributor? team size?
Attitude of superior(s) towards teaching
Opportunity to become a manager (assuming manager is the next level)

My own experience when I was younger is that I usually took the road less travelled, and generally that has paid off for me.
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sunset industries can be quite depressing to be in (hint: Oil and gas), since VSS can be anytime and contracts not renewed. Plus, it's difficult to jump ship. Not mentioning if you are Non-Bumi, chances are lower in getting a job since there is quota.

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depends which u confortable with.. distance shoulnt be an issue. I used to ride from Sg Long to Shah Alam hicom area to work daily basis.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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choose the job with best prospect for self growth. 35km is not bad to be honest. i used to commute 45km to my workplace.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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If posssible I go C, Since ang moh probs international and you can work other country more pay and probs more stable.

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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Jun 18 2021, 05:29 PM)
choose the job with best prospect for self growth. 35km is not bad to be honest. i used to commute 45km to my workplace.
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Best prospect for self growth might be C since it is angmoh company. Hmmm
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C, but pls add a clause....if work with them more than 10 years can get a cybertruck for free.biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 12:23 PM)
So I'm changing my job. Unlike strawberries and yolo people, i find a job first before resign. tongue.gif
Lai help me choose.

Sr enginner in mnc to another sr engineer position in another mnc.

Company A, salary increases 28%. Different engineering job scope. OT culture is very apparent here. Big local company.

Company B, salary increases 28%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Apparently everyone here is quite active and jobs are challenging since company is looking at performance instead of seniority. However no OT. Taiwanese company..so maybe its like chinaman company?

Company C, salary increases 33%. Same engineering job scope as my current job. Performance based increment and worklife more balanced. Doesn't encourage OT that much unless really urgent. Got OT. Ang moh company.

If i go all out, i think company B is better. Also this company only 8km away..
Company C higher salary and life more balanced but it is 35km away.

Which should I choose?
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C la then can balanced Nissan 9k every weekday...


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Choose C.
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C, but pls add a clause....if work with them more than 10 years can get a cybertruck for free.biggrin.gif
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Company C is Tesla ??!
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depends on your needs la

if you have reached certain age eg. 30 plus then i would focus more on work life balance. i’m over with all those every night OT life. health is important yo

plus got 1 boss told me distance shouldn’t be an issue when looking for a job. at least not too far la like one state to another. 35km is nothing liao

conclusion: C
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C, distance but compensated by higher salary. Angmo co more sane working environment.
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as a fellow engineer, C
cos u can always find new house/room to rent somewhere nearer
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C ... maybe its already soo cliche but work life balance is sooo important ..
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A: Vitrox / Pentamaster
B: Uchi
C: Lam Research

If that's the case, no brainer would be C. New setup, lesser politics, more opportunities.

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B, the travel time you save could have done some OT, 8km vs 35km depend on whether got jam or not

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QUOTE(bsa12 @ Jun 18 2021, 07:26 PM)
TS should look at mirror ask what kind of person you are
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QUOTE(cxjiek @ Jun 18 2021, 08:47 PM)
B, the travel time you save could have done some OT, 8km vs 35km depend on whether got jam or not
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Its like 20 minutes vs 45 minutes per way.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 08:51 PM)
Its like 20 minutes vs 45 minutes per way.
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Why need work when u are towkay Dobi?
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C, but request company to give you personal driver
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Hi TS,

For bayan lepas/mainland MNC, if got choice best not to touch taiwan MNC. For local company really depends. If you are talking about company like vitr0x, yeah can try. If talking about company like A3mulus, look elsewhere.

For taiwan MNC, wife use to work at one with a sun & moon logo. They quite cheapskate until watercooler being removed due to cost cutting. Pay was not really competitive either, only provide 12 month base pay and extra 2 months was treated as 'bonus'. Most companies provide 13 month contractual with some better ones giving 13.5 / 14month annual. You might want to look at what their annual pay is

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jun 18 2021, 09:27 PM)
Hi TS,

For bayan lepas/mainland MNC, if got choice best not to touch taiwan MNC. For local company really depends. If you are talking about company like vitr0x, yeah can try. If talking about  company like A3mulus, look elsewhere.

For taiwan MNC, wife use to work at one with a sun & moon logo. They quite cheapskate until watercooler being removed due to cost cutting. Pay was not really competitive either, only provide 12 month base pay and extra 2 months was treated as 'bonus'. Most companies provide 13 month contractual with some better ones giving 13.5 / 14month annual. You might want to look at what their annual pay is
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Sun and moon... I think very obvious which company this is haha. yes most companies provided 13 month contractual.
My current Jap MNC also removed their watercooler. Pantry also removed since many years ago.
Many company cutting costs.
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QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ Jun 18 2021, 08:58 PM)
Why need work when u are towkay Dobi?
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Its for money and personal development blush.gif
Plus more yeng when people ask me at kopitiam.

Stranger A: Eh come come my cc good. May I know what is your salary? Office worker right?
Me: Me? I'm taukeh la dont play play! blush.gif blush.gif *flash my dobi voucher in his face*
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 10:15 PM)
Sun and moon... I think very obvious which company this is haha. yes most companies provided 13 month contractual.
My current Jap MNC also removed their watercooler. Pantry also removed since many years ago.
Many company cutting costs.
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Water cooler removed?
That's bloody cheapskate

Still have free flow coffee and water at my pantry

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QUOTE(Daylight2018 @ Jun 18 2021, 10:24 PM)
Water cooler removed?
That's bloody cheapskate

Still have free flow coffee and water at my pantry
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Only left watercooler at the production line. Only plain hot or cold water.
Engineering room water cooler taken away. Pantry used to munch on your own snacks, taken away.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Jun 18 2021, 10:41 PM)
Only left watercooler at the production line. Only plain hot or cold water.
Engineering room water cooler taken away. Pantry used to munch on your own snacks, taken away.
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Change job fast
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QUOTE(okyjace @ Jun 18 2021, 04:44 PM)
Is just salary and OT your main considerations? How about career advancement and upskilling yourself? I would advise to consider other points with a longer term view - if your situation and ambitions permit. Things to also compare:

The industry - is the company in a sunset industry?
Opportunities to manage and develop others - sole contributor? team size?
Attitude of superior(s) towards teaching
Opportunity to become a manager (assuming manager is the next level)

My own experience when I was younger is that I usually took the road less travelled, and generally that has paid off for me.
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This is one of the wisest advice so far, by okyjace.

TS mentioned that the difference between B & C is 5%, but we don't know how much the 5% is. If TS's current pay is RM 10K, the 5% difference is only RM 500 which I personally will not take into consideration when deciding a career move. RM 500 is substantial for a salary of RM 2000, but definitely not anything above RM 5000.

Job satisfaction, future career advancement and office environment come into play if I were TS. Ask yourself TS, how long you plan to be in engineering before you decide to be fully operating your laundry business? Or do you have other plan as in starting a business which is engineering related?

I have worked with Japanese MNC. local company and also American company before. It is generally correct that gwai lou companies give more freedom and respect to the employees. However, when something is not well with the company, gwai lou is also the merciless to act first. My personal take is, your immediate superior is the one who will either makes your working life happy, or ruin it all. A selfish/ruthless/directionless superior could also work for a western MNC but treat his subordinates "Chinaman" way.





 

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