Ak letih la family wife ak termasuk le wife percaya benda2 ridiculous ni. Camne ye.

to me, hantu only exists in movies and storybooks

Quran kata apa?

Saka mmg la ada. Tapi jangan sampai jadikan benda tu as penghalang..

Melayu pelihara benda nie mcm pelihara kucing mahal.... warisan pusaka keluarga...

This post has been edited by chilskater: Jun 6 2021, 12:16 PM

Percaya macam mana tu?

Percaya boleh. Aku pun percaya dengan kewujudan menda tu

Tapi toksah la sampai taksub, balas membalas , p jmpa bomoh apa semua. Syirik. Jin setan tu bukan pandai mana pun. Xda guna.

This post has been edited by reed90: Jun 6 2021, 12:21 PM

how about beings from parallel dimensions?

Layan je. Keep it to yourself what you believe or not.

Better than argue.

Are you criticising about believing in hocus pocus or are you criticising their mentality of blaming misfortune on hocus pocus?

benda memang ada

tapi kenapa?

why saka outweigh the other logical reason?

Monsters are real. Ghosts are too. They live inside of us, and sometimes, they win.

-Stephen King

Those who happened to saw 'IT' will believe it.

I saw it...twice

Benda memang wujud.
Setan keturunan dari Iblis, dan jin.

Percaya yang mereka wujud itu satu hal.
Percaya yang mereka ada kuasa mempengaruhi manusia itu satu sal lain.

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

They exist, but powerless.

Nothing to be afraid.

I believe in jin. No issue. But can see them can have them, no. I dont.


Wtf is saka? Saka tu jin ke? Hantu? Budak2 silat ckp boleh nampak la tinggi klcc, kaki panjang bulu panjang... Fuck that. Benda ghaib pesal korang boleh nampak.

So bila sakit, suh g jumpa doc, i t could many reason, ini tak rasa berat la rasa ade gangguan la.

Kalo ade sakit jantung camne.

Contact BA Baracus, to deal with them sakas...

old story tapi tu la ada yang cakap benda ni ilusi la, mainan minda la semua,tapi true story yang aku pernah nampak budak umur 7 tahun merangkak dekat dinding kena rasuk.so kalau cerita dekat orang tak pernah tgk biasa dia akan cakap ilusi macamtu la.benda ni memang wujud

you a bigger problem

its a made-up excuses

these kind of peepol. usually said to them like this je

malaih ngaji malaih solat memang laa asyik kena ganggu

powerless to certain people only

I once saw my 10 year old friend being possessed by this evil pressence. She can kick my teacher who has a body like john cena like a dad kick a 5 year old son

Saka, hantu semua tu dari golongan jin

Tell them, hantu only exist in the heart n mind. Kalau alwaya percaya hantu, memang jadi hantu

Kalau aku, aku jawab "Awak kawen dgn saya ok je"

Ayam belip they are around that’s all, never in my life think to use their service
Ayam pernah tengok cousin berubat with ustaz darul syifa
Scary
Ayam also know my late nenek siblings having saka till nak mati kena buka atap tu semua
They are real
Kalau tak, tak wujud la darul syifa tu bang

Tapi kalau belip sampai tahap sakit jantung/cancer tu semua because of saka hantu, tu bodo namanya

Tak percaya sebab tak nampak

Tapi beli rumah lama memang perlu panggil bomoh kasi halau penunggu

Have a relative send their daughter to Rukyah 3 years nothin happen. After that they fed up send to hospital doctor diagnosed Schizo 1 week take medicine already ok.

So now I don't believe in those "gangguan jin" anymore. Most likely just be undiagnosed hallucination and delusion.

I believe in those thing because I have personal experience with that.

But what I found is that people who are lazy ass and always find excuse for their own shortcoming, always blame saka when everything bad happen, when the truth is that thing happens because of their own stupidity.

People have problem with stupid saka usually the one that have very strong fighting spirit one. They dont usually talk about saka because talking about them means reinviting them, because people who have saka usually want to get rid of them, and one of the method is usually to ignore those saka calling. When u learn to ignore, they will not look for you (the’ll look for ur other blood kin, lol).

Tldr: If people always talk about saka, they dont have it. If people always blame saka, they dont have them, they are toxic people. The one that got saka is usually the quite one, but u sometime saw their dopleganger, or u feel creepy when alone with them.

if perempuan mesti percaya pada bomoh jugak ni

I don't know man this is 2021. If got plenty cases like that it probably already recorded in random cctv and someone smartphones

Amazing quote. Thanks for sharing.

Its true la

Why have pocong jump here n there in kampung?

Why have pontianak in white or red or black humming in jungle or sitting above the tree

Why have driverless yellow VW car in karak highway?

Many more…..

keywords: wife, family

result: sabar jer la...

Perhaps...

experience kena rasa. bukan dari reading or observation.

traditional method comes after conventional method failed to cure it.

however, traditional method only ikhtiar lah...

Same with TS. Also, why only malay/indon ada? Why not turkey people, japanese, afghan people kena? Tak logic right?

Should be the other way. go to hospital first, if they didn't find anything wrong, then you can try the other method.

Percaya syaitan tu ada,tapi aku percaya diorang tak boleh bawak mudarat tanpa izinNya
So,takut apa.klu dapat mudarat,tu tuhan nak uji kau
Kembali pada tuhan.cari bomoh scammer memang kena
chong la .kehkeh

I got one story.
Last month my grandfather was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer.
After the hospital visit, he stayed at home contemplating his situation but accepted it. At that point, he could still talk, eat normally.

When his condition got worse, my aunty got worried and didn't know what to do. Any people with common sense would immediately bring my grandfather to a hospital to get him checked and get his vitals right?

no, instead my aunty called her other half-siblings and discussed the situation. Suddenly, we all was told that my grandfather had susuk. I've known him for all my life. He was in the local mosque committee, he works at a palm plantation, he never dabble with witchraft, nor do I see the need to. Yet, these relatives make the sudden announcement that he has that.

So instead of calling a doctor or bringing him to a hospital, they decided to call an 'ustaz'. Badabing, badaboom, that ustaz claim the saka needs to be inherited before they can remove the susuk. Meanwhile, my grandfather condition worsen up to a point he can barely speak, can barely eat and gasping for air. He had hypertension and diabetes but stopped taking them because my relatives didnt want to take the meds for him.

So each night, they just mingled around my grandfather in his room, reading yasin, playing phones, chitchatting while my grandfather is suffering. Some relatives suggested to bring him to a hospital just in case anything bad happens, but the senior relatives told them the ustaz is going to try and hold a dialogue with the saka to get it off my grandfather.

Within a few days my father passed away and after that, everyone just went quiet as if nothing actually happened. No news of the supposed saka, no news of the ustaz, and those so-called half-siblings simply went back to their home and never came again.

Fuck them all.
Even if my grandfather had no hope to survive the cancer, he definitely wouldn't have to suffer like that without any medical attention.




This post has been edited by funnyTONE: Jun 6 2021, 01:33 PM

Saka dan kena "buatan orang" are real and exist.

One of my relative pernah jadi mangsa and I saw it in my real life.

Depends on you want to trust or not, but I trust these kind of things are exist

well from you point i understand.that why i rarely talk about this to other people.

My rich chinese fren say her family got saka. Duduk atas pokok watching over them. -___-

Saka hantu = demon djinn

If u didn't believe these djiin exist its just the same as if u reject the Quran Itself. Are you malay muslim? Go back and recite your syahadah.

Enlighten me please, are they all the same? Are they the fallen angels?

Ever heard murung in malay or depression in emglish


My father senyap kahwin siam. My mom ckp kena saka and all.


Ckp that woemn hntr saka jin or ghost shit stuff...

Went to istaz here and there... Fuck that pergi jumpa psychiatrist kawtim...


No i dun believe that buatan orang, u deprrssed or u got dope with your own stupidity.

Divorce? Simple

This is the problem man, people always attribute mental illness to gangguan jin. The mental illness possibilities never come cross their mind. Or they are too denial to accept their loved one got mentally ill. Another big reason is mental health awareness is too low in Malaysia.

Terdengar suara = gangguan jin
Nampak lembaga = gangguan jin
Rasa diikuti = gangguan jin
Resah = gangguan jin
Rasa mengamuk tiba-tiba = gangguan jin
Rasa nak bunuh diri = gangguan jin
Rasa tak semangat untuk hidup = gangguan jin
Cacat otak = gangguan jin

It keep testing my patient. Something serious happened to my family recently. If that happened again, no shit i will exit this stupid marriage.

doesnt matter, asal bule piap

Cerai je. Kalau dah menyampah sangat. Tak payah nak tunggu. Ko buang masa bro.

Paip one last time. Then cerai jer

It's something I won't believe till I see infront of myself. Things like this need to be measured with science. Did that kid kick produce enough force to send grown man flying or did the teacher exaggerated contact during the impact?

To me it's like UFO phenomena, in the past many people believe in UFO and claim have seen UFO and alien. But the number drop significantly after HD video era. Magically all those UFO sightings disappeared after HD camera came out. People that claim to seen things cannot prove it anymore

If you can still layan layan jela your mum. It's probably how she was coping with your dad's action. Nanti dah tenang baru slow talk balik dengan dia.

Seeking perubatan Islam is the last option if the normal medicine can't solve it.

Your relative is doing it wrong.

Humans more terrifying than ghost if you ask me...

Saka, santau I know it exists because my relatives experienced it.

Quite painful life for having either one of them, to the point you'll die miserably if not treated.

Other stuff like ghosts, alam sebalik mata is quite hard to believe since some people claim to be able to see it and some exaggerated it for attention.

This post has been edited by MRaef: Jun 6 2021, 02:10 PM

Not just that, people that took Susuk also suffer if the susuk is not removed from the body before they die.

Turki pun ada sihir la.. Cuba tgk cerita siccin dengan dabbe. Japanese ada yokai. Afghan same with turks sihir. Allah ciptakan manusia dan djin untuk beribadat kepadanya. Cukup percaya. Jangan taksub.

When I was in school I read Malay novel about saka demon,titled Suangi. I'm not sure about the existence because each race and culture has their own beliefs and pantang larang/good and devil spirits.
But Suangi is great horror book.

Then the bomoh/ustaz need to clarify to their patient that they are the last resort because many of them don't know or have low mental illness awareness. But they don't do that because they compete for the same group of patients

I went there and see how they treat their patient with the same method, holy water and Quran recitement even tho all their patients have different kind of symptoms. I can attribute many of their patient symptoms with mental illness. But those guy never went to hospital due to lack of trust on modern medical method.

You know la the antivaccine, home birth, homeopathy gang die die don't trust modern medicine. When their family got mentally ill, hospital will be their last resort unfortunately.

This post has been edited by Imp Bron: Jun 6 2021, 02:19 PM

I do scare of supernatural things, especially after watching a horror movie. But logically, I almost not believe these things exist or even if they do, i still think they don't because i cant see, hear, or taste them. But i do believe in God. Focus on positive thing lah.. jgn asyik tengok antu je kek

My mom dah ok and she realised this herself. Im just describing why i dont believe it and what happened to my mom proved it

This. Semua wujud benar.

I believe jin is exist but i dun believe u can see it. Nama makhkik ghaib. Kau bukan nabi nak nampak2. Pastu sikit2 saka... Prove it la ... Kalau ko boleh nampak pehal ak tak nampak. Hallucinating delusionally mental disorder ada la.

my 2nd bro bila kecik pernah keno rasuk. can play guli pusing pusing with his one hand. dadmom terperanjat bila ternampak, but it was temporarily, and back to himself. masa tu, was living in army squatters...

https://m.facebook.com/ruqyahhijrah/photos/...41402599365922/

saka tu ada. tapi depends on cerita orang tu jugak.
ada cerita betul ada cerita palsu.

Married another one, then your wife will keep thinking about your new wife. She will forget about the saka.

I'm your wife's saka by the way. Tell her I'll leave her family alone if she let you marry another one.

This post has been edited by Noryume: Jun 6 2021, 02:50 PM

He is a mutant.

percaya hantu or percaya sihir?

2 benda berbeza tu

Let me just chime in for the sceptics, the stuff is real and if you have a friend or good friends who are involved with legit ruqyah or perubatan Islam circles, ask if you can tag along when they receive emergency distress calls. But beware, because you need to have a certain amount of inner strength and don't go in with this arrogant mentality of thinking you're 'immune' to such things.

What you see will help you decide whether these things are real or otherwise. My best friend went with one of these guys to a patient's house. He was a believer of course but never really thought of it as a big deal. When he got there, there was this young kid. Crawling on the ceiling on all fours, muttering a language he's never heard of. Unless there was a multi million Hollywood CGI set running in the background, I think it's safe to say that it was something supernatural.

Now don't just take my word for it, like I said ask around and accompany these legit ruqyah groups. Just because you've had friends or family misdiagnosed and scammed by dodgy bomohs, doesn't mean you can discredit people who've had experiences with the real deal.

Last but not least, it's in the Quran and hadith, but like other people have explained, it's not right to be fearful of them but know that they exist.

Percaya benda tu ada.. Bukan buat bela.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr3yMfhCf5s

This post has been edited by mrdokok: Jun 6 2021, 03:09 PM

Saka hantu dan orang melayu berpisah tiada

Can you dig it suckaaas

Dia tgk org juga bro.. Bukan kira nabi ke tak.. Bukan semua benda dpt ko tgk..

Your friend don't have a phone?

It does exists.
Those who can see because their hijab is open.
Some goes crazy, some just live with it like a friend of mine.

Hantu raya suka menyamar sebagai pemiliknya dan akan tidur bersama isteri tuannya jika tidak dikawal.

Ini bahaya...

Masalahnya, takde pun turkey, japan, afghan ke ada saka. Takde pun kisah jepun kena bukak atap, baru lepas saka. Yg duduk condo, lagi la atap celah mana?

So kenapa saka ni exclusive to malay/indon? Tak pelik?

Probably not hantu. But Jin. Surah Al Jinn already say jin exists. Memang kena percaya. But jangan mintak tolong.

Not everyone is obsessed with social media walking around with their phones whipped out and on record, 24/7 dude. Besides, even if he did get a recording would you actually believe it was real?

Like I said, get in touch with those involved in these things and see for yourself. Don't take my word for it. I've had my fair share of run ins with these things and I'm a firm advocate of both modern and 'traditional' medicine so to speak, with the former taking priority over the latter. Gotta get your health checked first and foremost, imo. If docs can't find anything then you can consider what comes next.

If they're really that powerless, the world wud b suc a nice place now. But it isn't.

SOmetimes having other people believe in this mambo jumbo is good. At least you can blame toyol if you steal some of their money, blame on karma to get them to shutup, you terromen your officemate you can say she uses minyak dagu , if you re too lazy to drive at night just say lansuir bla bla

This post has been edited by faizeq: Jun 6 2021, 04:24 PM

god belip, angel n setan belip
but hantu saka no belip
selective betul KEK
if u belip any of above, belip all la dey
if no belip, probly they no exist haha

Many realms exist, both seen and hidden from the naked eye.

bro if you give this kind of answr, ill just say bullshit

thanks Hirano.

benda ni mmg wujud. tp kengkadang kita je lebih2 pukul rata semua benda berlaku sebabkan saka. sikap manusia yg memandai tu yg isunya. fakta ttg ada saka dan sebagainya mmg wujud pun

simple lah. if you dont believe saka exists, then have it your way. though you still have to believe ghaib creatures in general does exists as it's one of pillar of islamic believes.

if your wife or relatives wanna believe about saka, you cant force your way on them, maybe they actually saw it?

logik ni songsang.
sebab saka ni hasil amalan sihir
so ia bergantung kepada budaya sihir yg diamalkan oleh setiap kaum
kalau kaum tu takde amalan tu, maka mmg tak adalah

nak scientific evidence....cuba google mystic needle xray atau miracle needle xray.
jarum susuk ni dah banyak kali org report nampak kat xray.
even aku personally pernah nampak jarum susuk dlm xray gigi, tp operation takde

Fairy tales. Cerita dongeng

I heard many Melei families did bela saka and then when no more penjaga (maybe their human caretaker passed away), den they cause problems.

Most of the time may just be your own delusions/psychosis or whatever. But I've seen and experienced some shit I can't explain just by defaulting to delusions/psychosis, jangan taksub je dengan benda ni.

Personally aku tak tau how effective mintak tolong organization macam Darussyifa', tapi kalau teruk sangat dekat mana nak tanya lagi. If you want to go down the psychological assesment route pun boleh, some illnesses do make you see things and you can get meds that do help improve mental clarity.

bnda ghaib itu wujud.

saka is from ur late late atok nenek punya, org dulu membela utk perlindungan sndri/keluarga tp tiap perbuatan ada balasannya. from my understanding saka is hard to buang just like that, any anak kena accept them after ur late grandfter ded. if no one willing to accpt then that saka will kacau any of thier anak lah especially yang lemah semangat. if one of them willing to take then the saka wont bother any of their sibling anymore.

sorry, disagree. no such thing as ghost.

ghabi is just a word to describe "unknown". people always misunderstood this.

space is ghaib, future is ghaib.

ini sampai kiamat pun tak habis sembang bro

Not just malay, other races also have. Have seen with my own eyes possessions on Chinese and Indians, perhaps more of a taboo to talk about it.

More so look at thais with the amulets to ward off spirits.

Byk tempat kalau mau boleh pergi experience. One example near Dataran merdeka old prison jail facing the river.

Interestingly Asia many of these experiences. Gwailo countries less, owai

Ada satu relative, you see him pun seram. He claim he can see things, you can hear him talking to no one, and will laugh all of sudden. All is behaviour is not interacting with us. He's living in another alam.

Diagnosed with schizo. Now depends on which you want to believe.