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post Jul 11 2023, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 11 2023, 12:47 AM)
65" X90L is on Sony official store now for 8099 +  RM500 discount (7599 final price) + free RM700 Tng ewallet credits.... wondering should I bite the bullet

reviews for the picture quality all seem very positive so far.... except the blooming since its a normal FALD

damm Sony Msia.... why dont you just bring in the 65 inch X95L or X93L... I just realised there isn't really a choice for us here who want Dolby Vision + minLED except LG or Philips (TCL soon maybe), and neither of those have any stellar reviews
anyone bought from official store before? Do they provide installation for wall mount?
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Look at Sony store sg site and how much 65 X95L is going for. If Sony My brings it in and price it more or less similar to 65 OLED for other brand , I am sure most people will just go for OLED.

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post Jul 11 2023, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 11 2023, 01:10 PM)
There is the X93L which is the cheaper miniLED model. Sony could price it similar to Samsung's Neo QLED range which is already not cheap

But as I've said above, many would not know the difference anyway
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X93L is currently exclusive to US market at the moment. Even if 65 X93L is available, the pricing will still be very steep i reckon.

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Also available now are two new Mini-LED TVs, including the Sony X95L and the Sony X93L TVs. The latter model is currently exclusive to U.S. buyers only, and comes in 65-, 75- and 85-inch sizes, with prices starting at $2,199.

https://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/n/Sonys-2023-TVs...-no-QD-OLED-yet


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post Jul 11 2023, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ Jul 11 2023, 05:26 PM)
Hi there, let me share with you my experience.

I got Sony LCD TV and OLED TV. I watch sports, games (live competition) and news. Both my Sony and LG OLED TV burn in static mark within 1.5 years. I just changed my OLED screen after 1.5 years under warranty and I believe within 1 to 1.5 years sure will have static burn in. My LG OLED has burn in static quite bad but warranty finish.

I thought of getting LCD (not sure about miniLed) but was reminded by my Sony TV guy their experience is LCD TV after 2 years also will have issue, lines along screen or distorted picture. All depending on luck. So in the end my next TV will be OLED too since I have several old LCD Sony TVs indeed having line issue.

Don't really like Samsung colour even though makes sense for me to have a Samsung TV to go with my Samsung 990b soundbar.

Do let us know how is your new Samsung TV and which one you eventually getting.

OLED prices seem to be going down, global trend is like that. But like musang king durian, the price is somewhat controlled in Malaysia and our weak ringgit not helping.
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What's your OLED light level when you are watching sports, live games and news?
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post Jul 11 2023, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 11 2023, 03:01 PM)
Only for SDR.
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Even for HDR contents, this TV already surpassed peak brightness of 1200 nits at 10% window. Specular highlights should be very popping. Yes that comes with a cost with raised black level but I think Sony's intention is to preserve the shadow and midtone detail as much as possible for this particular tv.

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post Jul 12 2023, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 11 2023, 11:29 PM)
I think major concerns about oled are pixel life and burn in. Even though oled is godlike for dark scene, I think I wouldn't buy an oled tv despite loving them for my phone and tablet.

There are chances to buy miniled tv for a lot less than what you paid for an oled and it can do hdr way better than oled as well. Personally if one want to buy oled, better buy the qd oled. At least qd oled would still perform in brighter room unlike the older LG panel which cant go bright enough but still dim to prevent burn in when displaying certain scene for too long.
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QD Oled S95C also has ABL in place like any other OLEDs. High APL brightness scene will still dim down.

But no doubt it has an impressive peak brightness to bring out the highlights especially for contents mastered to 1000 nits.

There is also EX MLA oled with meta tech like the G3 77 with high peak brightness for bright room condition also 😀

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post Jul 17 2023, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Jul 17 2023, 10:09 AM)
Is this feature only available on TV with XR processor?
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 17 2023, 05:19 PM)
yes
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Available on my X1 X90H also.
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post Jul 18 2023, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Jul 18 2023, 08:56 AM)
Which one is correct?  sweat.gif
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X90H is a 2020 model with X1 processor. Yes reality creation feature is already on my TV and should be available to few more models prior iinm.

J series 2021 model onwards should be XR.

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post Jul 27 2023, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Jul 27 2023, 02:09 PM)
For the same price, should I go with X90K o X85L?
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X90K has a true native 10 bit panel for the better color gradient handling, X85L is still utilizing 8 bit + FRC if not mistaken.

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post Jul 28 2023, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Jul 28 2023, 11:23 AM)
I'm not sure what's the SoC for Sony TV, but Sony's Google TV interface is by far the smoothest and fastest compare to to other brand.
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SOC is Mediatek MT5895 for your X90K.
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post Sep 4 2023, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Sep 4 2023, 01:33 PM)
Is it just me, or does Dolby Vision basically just make the entire screen warmer?

It's far too warm for my liking, but they say that's how the movie is supposed to be.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 4 2023, 02:04 PM)
I’ve not compared movie with and without DV, however I seem to prefer the warmer profile (standard vs cinema).
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cause a lot of people are very use to blueish white as opposed to real D65 whitepoint.
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post Sep 4 2023, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 4 2023, 04:43 PM)
Could be, I noticed most of the monitors I calibrated before and owned are mostly blue-ish and when calibrated it more yellowish.
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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Sep 4 2023, 05:09 PM)
That could be it, perhaps my eyes are so used to blueish white.

So you guys usually set to Dolby Vision Bright or Dolby Vision Dark?
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https://professional.dolby.com/siteassets/p...rgrading_v4.pdf
Page 7 Section 2.2 color grading and page 8 3.2 setting colorspace, it has to be either D65-P3 or BT2020 with most of the movies mastered in DCI-P3 within BT2020 container colorspace.

https://partnerhelp.netflixstudios.com/hc/e...ring-Guidelines
D65-P3 stated as requirement for deliverables also.

D65 represents color temperature of 6500k by the way.

I always choose Dolby Vision Dark since its the most accurate settings based on directors intent. But if you find it too dim for your liking or you are in a very bright living room, just set it to Dolby Vision bright. Shouldn't be too far off in my opinion.

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post Sep 9 2023, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Squirtle @ Sep 8 2023, 08:53 PM)
Currently i am using lg oled c2 48... Planning to switch to 65 inch but budget only enough for 65 x90l or x85l... Is it advisable switch from oled to flad?
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LED/LCD has no match for OLED inky black. It's best that you save up a bit more for 65" OLED.
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post Sep 24 2023, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 24 2023, 04:18 PM)
Better colour luminance and no near black chrominance overshoot. I think all QD OLED TVs on the market now can go beyond 1000 nits which no WRGB OLED can do except the MLA G3
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2022 Panasonic LZ2000 can reach HDR 1000 nits in a calibrated state.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?sub...r's%20model.

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post Nov 4 2023, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(neekun @ Nov 4 2023, 06:33 PM)
The QD OLED, do you notice it is really significantly brighter than A80L ka? My current TV is LG GX 65", when I test the A80L, to me it seems more less same brightness which I am ok. Plus side it I the huge 77" screen.
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https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-...&threshold=0.10

LG GX and A80L has more or less the same HDR brightness. In fact the A80L being reviewed by rtings has a slightly lower peak and sustained 10% HDR brightness for industry standards. But still more than the range of 0.0005 to 540 nits for optimal "OLED TVs" HDR experience.

https://alliance.experienceuhd.com/uhd-premium-features

A95L is a completely different beast, can deliver up to peak brightness of 1340 nits @ 10% window according to this article.

https://allhomecinema.com/review-sony-xr-55...?id=99941014944

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post Nov 4 2023, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Nov 4 2023, 07:08 PM)
ultimately, it went down to brand preference. i am sure whoever likes sony like me will never go for LG no matter how much the difference.  tongue.gif
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Your A80J also use LG OLED panel ma. Haha
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post Feb 25 2024, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Feb 25 2024, 11:43 AM)
Indeed. I moved house recently. If I did not engage mover to move also difficult to carry it one person.

Will just see if the software update fixed it.
Hopefully it is ok. Really do not want to go thru the hassle.
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Actually it's not a hassle at all. Just give Sony The Curve a call and they will create a report number for you. Then few days later someone from R Logic will contact/whatsapp you. You just need to tell them your issue and they will send someone to check and replace it on the spot. No need to carry the TV in. All can be done quite fast if they have the ready parts available.

I had my Sony 55" TV mainboard replaced once (1 person), 65" LG OLED Panel replaced once (2 person) all done in my place within 1 hour or less. Turnaround time only around 1 week or so for both brands. Both brands also handled my cases professionally.

Your case sounds a lot like power board issue.

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post Apr 18 2024, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 18 2024, 12:40 PM)
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Quite impressive lineup for this year. Bravia 9 is apparently using the same backlight control tech utilized on the BVM HX3110, I am sure the price will be exp for this model…

Now if only Bravia 7 price is right, might be one of the bestseller…😂

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post Apr 18 2024, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 18 2024, 08:07 PM)
A bit of conflicting news here and there and no official word from Sony, but apparently Bravia 7 is the replacement to X93L and X95L, so I guess the price wont be exactly cheap also

X90L would be carry over from last year but there's no word whether Sony would stop production of it
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yeah, it looks like bravia 7 will be quite expensive also...

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subac...l&id=1713441678
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post Apr 21 2024, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Apr 21 2024, 12:16 AM)
besides, just wonder how do u guys clean ur tv screen?

i have not tried to clean it since i bought it last year.
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I normally just use slightly damped microfiber cloth and gently wipe down my OLED tvs.

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post Apr 21 2024, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Apr 21 2024, 11:24 AM)
I think should not use damped cloth to wipe display panel.
It will effect the panel layer in the long run.
Better use dedicated cleaning product.. something like lcd cleaner..
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https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/tv-audio...n-my-tv-screen/

https://www.sony.com.my/electronics/support...ticles/00167099

Best is still use slightly dampened microfibre cloth, works for me the past 4 years…

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