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post Oct 11 2021, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Oct 11 2021, 01:01 AM)
The money was sitting idle on another account, so at least with overnight interest that's bit more than just transferring on Monday.
It was a nice discovery since I just opened the versa account to try it.

And maybe you can chill on the facepalm emojis, it seems everything around the world just annoys you all the time or you're way too smart for everything.
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The best time is always the Friday and Monday before 2.30pm after the payout as you would buy on lower price and earn immediately rclxms.gif
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post Oct 11 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Oct 10 2021, 09:14 PM)
The best time is always the Friday and Monday before 2.30pm after the payout as you would buy on lower price and earn immediately  rclxms.gif
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That's like saying "the best time to invest is yesterday". Of course, ideally it would be .

I'm just clarifying your statement here.

QUOTE(xander83 @ Oct 9 2021, 05:45 PM)
SA Simple is the worst is due to slow withdrawal as it takes 3 days minimum or liquidity while Versa is highly liquid as you are be able to liquidate next business day

Money is from buying other bank depositers which is why they are able to give better daily interests
Unless you depositing more than rm100, Sunday is the worst  doh.gif

The worst is in fact in on Saturday and the day before the payout Thursday  doh.gif
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That Saturday is not the worst day, since you do get overnight interest. I haven't tried on Sunday so can't say about that.

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post Oct 11 2021, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Oct 11 2021, 03:22 PM)
That's like saying "the best time to invest is yesterday". Of course, ideally it would be .

I'm just clarifying your statement here.
That Saturday is not the worst day, since you do get overnight interest. I haven't tried on Sunday so can't say about that.
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Like I said Saturday because Sunday you don’t interest at all

Overnight interest will be everyday irregardless whether weekend as long it is more than rm100 deposit so don’t need wait until Saturday doh.gif
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post Oct 11 2021, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Oct 11 2021, 12:21 PM)
Like I said Saturday because Sunday you don’t interest at all
So which is worst? Saturday or Sunday? If Sunday no interest at all, why Saturday is the worstt?
At least on Saturday I got overnight interest, from my experience.

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Overnight interest will be everyday irregardless whether weekend as long it is more than rm100 deposit so don’t need wait until Saturday  doh.gif
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Or maybe, just maybe:
Someone's FD matured on Saturday or he received money to his account on that day.
So instead of letting it idle over the weekend till Monday, he could transfer it directly on Saturday to get some overnight interest?

Instead of assuming someone purposely letting the money sit for one week in savings account until Saturday.
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post Oct 11 2021, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Oct 11 2021, 06:45 PM)
So which is worst? Saturday or Sunday? If Sunday no interest at all, why Saturday is the worstt?
At least on Saturday I got overnight interest, from my experience.
Or maybe, just maybe:
Someone's FD matured on Saturday or he received money to his account on that day.
So instead of letting it idle over the weekend till Monday, he could transfer it directly on Saturday to get some overnight interest?

Instead of assuming someone purposely letting the money sit for one week in savings account until Saturday.
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Both equally worst because delaying in buying and earning interest but as long deposit more than rm100 overnight interest is incurred doesn’t matter what is the day doh.gif

Why bother putting in FD when MMF is better in terms of returns and when move you money too much you just lost time in earning the interests doh.gif

This post has been edited by xander83: Oct 11 2021, 07:39 PM
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post Oct 11 2021, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Oct 11 2021, 02:38 PM)
Both equally worst because delaying in buying and earning interest but as long deposit more than rm100 overnight interest is incurred doesn’t matter what is the day  doh.gif

Why bother putting in FD when MMF is better in terms of returns and when move you money too much you just lost time in earning the interests  doh.gif
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you really do have an amazing ability to keep steering away the conversation instead of admitting you were wrong.

First you said:

QUOTE(xander83 @ Oct 9 2021, 05:45 PM)
The worst is in fact in on Saturday and the day before the payout Thursday  doh.gif
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When I explained that I got overnight interest on Saturday deposit, then you changed tune (and doesn't make sense to me).

QUOTE(xander83 @ Oct 11 2021, 12:21 PM)
Like I said Saturday because Sunday you don’t interest at all

Overnight interest will be everyday irregardless whether weekend as long it is more than rm100 deposit so don’t need wait until Saturday  doh.gif
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And final reply, as above.



QUOTE(xander83 @ Oct 11 2021, 02:38 PM)
Why bother putting in FD when MMF is better in terms of returns and when move you money too much you just lost time in earning the interests  doh.gif
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From me clarifying that sometimes people might get morey on weekends, thus depositing on Saturday in Versa is not a bad idea since you get overnight interest:

You:
"Why you bother put money in FD??" doh.gif

I applaud your goalpost-shifting.


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post Oct 11 2021, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Oct 11 2021, 08:15 PM)
you really do have an amazing ability to keep steering away the conversation instead of admitting you were wrong.

First you said:
When I explained that I got overnight interest on Saturday deposit, then you changed tune (and doesn't make sense to me).
And final reply, as above.
From me clarifying that sometimes people might get morey on weekends, thus depositing on Saturday in Versa  is not a bad idea since you get overnight interest:

You:
"Why you bother put money in FD??"  doh.gif

I applaud your goalpost-shifting.
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Learn to read as overnight interest is incurred anyway as long you deposit rm100 on any day so silly put in on Saturday when you already lost 2 days of time to earn interest on that and you seriously doesn’t know how Versa at all doh.gif

Putting FD is stupid because your money is locked in and if you withdraw earlier before due you just the lost 8nterest hence MMF is the way forward with compounding and when move your money with too many channels you just lost interest instead doh.gif

This post has been edited by xander83: Oct 11 2021, 11:47 PM
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post Oct 12 2021, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Oct 11 2021, 06:46 PM)
Learn to read as overnight interest is incurred anyway as long you deposit rm100 on any day so silly put in on Saturday when you already lost 2 days of time to earn interest on that and you seriously doesn’t know how Versa at all  doh.gif
At this point I don't even know what you're talking about.

So which point are you sticking to now?
A. Saturday - Worst!
b. Even Sunday no interest, Saturday is still worst because overnight interest
C. No, both Saturday and Sunday equally worse
D. Now, actually any day is fine as long as more than RM100.


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Putting FD is stupid because your money is locked in and if you withdraw earlier before due you just the lost 8nterest hence MMF is the way forward with compounding and when move your money with too many channels you just lost interest instead doh.gif
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Are you purposely misinterpreting my comments or your reading comprehension is lacking?

This was what I said:
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Or maybe, just maybe:
Someone's FD matured on Saturday or he received money to his account on that day.
This is nothing to with FD. I simply gave an EXAMPLE of how someone might get money on Saturday, EXAMPLE if an FD matures or someone transfers money.
And rather than waiting till Monday, it might not be a bad idea to deposit into Versa on Saturday.
I repeated this point in my latest comment

And your response above is to repeat "FD sucks."
Really facepalm back at you.

Anyway I will not bother replying anymore since it's clear you just read what you want to read, changing your answer when someone makes a point and just run the conversation into unrelated matters.

You remind of Kellyane Conway, just harp on one word the other person says and run into another direction.
I said "for example if FD mature..', then you divert and go "why you put FD, FD sucks, MMF bettter .. "

This post has been edited by jonoave: Oct 12 2021, 03:19 AM
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post Oct 12 2021, 04:14 AM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Oct 12 2021, 02:57 AM)
At this point I don't even know what you're talking about.

So which point are you sticking to now?
A. Saturday - Worst!
b. Even Sunday no interest, Saturday is still worst because overnight interest
C. No, both Saturday and Sunday equally worse
D. Now, actually any day is fine as long as more than RM100.
Are you purposely misinterpreting my comments or your reading comprehension is lacking?

This was what I said:
This is nothing to with FD. I simply gave an EXAMPLE of how someone might get money on Saturday, EXAMPLE if an FD matures or someone transfers money.
And rather than waiting till Monday, it might not be a bad idea to deposit into Versa on Saturday.
I repeated this point in my latest comment

And your response above is to repeat "FD sucks."
Really facepalm back at you.

Anyway I will not bother replying anymore since it's clear you just read what you want to read, changing your answer when someone makes a point and just run the conversation into unrelated matters.

You remind of Kellyane Conway, just harp on one word the other person says and run into another direction.
I said "for example if FD mature..', then you divert and go "why you put FD, FD sucks, MMF bettter .. "
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A simple one liner just go and read how overnight interest works for more than rm100 and learn why it is bad on the weekends as you just missed out 2 days on interest still is floating around and will be only on Monday’s doh.gif
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post Oct 13 2021, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Oct 12 2021, 02:57 AM)
At this point I don't even know what you're talking about.

So which point are you sticking to now?
A. Saturday - Worst!
b. Even Sunday no interest, Saturday is still worst because overnight interest
C. No, both Saturday and Sunday equally worse
D. Now, actually any day is fine as long as more than RM100.
Are you purposely misinterpreting my comments or your reading comprehension is lacking?

This was what I said:
This is nothing to with FD. I simply gave an EXAMPLE of how someone might get money on Saturday, EXAMPLE if an FD matures or someone transfers money.
And rather than waiting till Monday, it might not be a bad idea to deposit into Versa on Saturday.
I repeated this point in my latest comment

And your response above is to repeat "FD sucks."
Really facepalm back at you.

Anyway I will not bother replying anymore since it's clear you just read what you want to read, changing your answer when someone makes a point and just run the conversation into unrelated matters.

You remind of Kellyane Conway, just harp on one word the other person says and run into another direction.
I said "for example if FD mature..', then you divert and go "why you put FD, FD sucks, MMF bettter .. "
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I could not agree with you more. Don't bother trying to understand what he is saying because he keeps contradicting himself in his argument. I believe he does not even understand how overnight interest work for Versa based on his comments. When he loses an argument, he just change the topic into something unrelated. Even when you clarify further, he will just ignore it and keep posting more garbage. I have experienced it myself before. He also likes to spam facepalm and clap smilies in many of his posts which is just so irritating.
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post Oct 13 2021, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Nom-el @ Oct 13 2021, 01:40 PM)
I could not agree with you more. Don't bother trying to understand what he is saying because he keeps contradicting himself in his argument. I believe he does not even understand how overnight interest work for Versa based on his comments. When he loses an argument, he just change the topic into something unrelated. Even when you clarify further, he will just ignore it and keep posting more garbage. I have experienced it myself before. He also likes to spam facepalm and clap smilies in many of his posts which is just so irritating.
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in short, he is just a keyboard warrior 24/7 spamming garbage on the forum.
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post Oct 18 2021, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Oct 11 2021, 08:15 PM)
I applaud your goalpost-shifting.
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it happens in the other thread also, i just choose to ignore his goalpost-shifting... just ignore him and state the truth bcos there're ppl lurking and they need the correct info else this sub-forum will lose its value

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post Oct 30 2021, 09:35 PM

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Hi, generally how much versa return on average? and any deposit limit?
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post Oct 30 2021, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(royalz @ Oct 30 2021, 09:35 PM)
Hi, generally how much versa return on average? and any deposit limit?
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1.98%pa atm and deposit limit as low as rm1
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jun 2 2021, 04:35 AM)
Every 2 weekends after payout with units price fluctuating between 1.1712 to 1.1713

The key is to use it to gain the weekend overnight interest after payout and withdraw on Thursday after that

Don’t expect much as every rm100 will gives you only rm0.01 interest which is useful only if you are disciplined not to spend on that particular weekend

Daily unit changes are only rm0.00009 per unit hence don’t expect a lot because it is only 2.18% pa yearly and with payout and weekend overnight interest is another 0.9% additional if you know how to time it well
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Sorry , Im wondering , trying to understand. do you mean deposit on every monday and withdraw every thursday?
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post Nov 1 2021, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Ihaveaquestion @ Nov 1 2021, 10:49 PM)
Sorry , Im wondering , trying to understand. do you mean deposit on every monday and withdraw every thursday?
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Deposit on Thursday and withdraw on the following Thursday
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Nov 1 2021, 11:53 PM)
Deposit on Thursday and withdraw on the following Thursday
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But the payout is 14 days right?
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Nov 1 2021, 11:53 PM)
Deposit on Thursday and withdraw on the following Thursday
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ok, Understood already. Reading back a few times , Thank you thumbup.gif
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post Nov 2 2021, 03:33 AM

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QUOTE(Ihaveaquestion @ Nov 1 2021, 10:56 PM)
But the payout is 14 days right?
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Full cycle payout with additional units yes 14 days

QUOTE(Ihaveaquestion @ Nov 1 2021, 11:29 PM)
ok, Understood already. Reading back a few times , Thank you thumbup.gif
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post Dec 23 2021, 10:31 AM

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interesting

lately for the past few months, Versa's withdrawal amount is slightly lesser than my input amount.

kinda tricky/annoying if you intend to withdraw some specific amount, eg. RM10,000. but Versa's final amount is about RM9,989 (example)


many months back, their withdrawal amount is usually slightly higher. at least you'd know you get the amount (min) you actually wanted to withdraw.

eg you withdraw RM10,000, but Versa's amount would be RM10,005.00 (example)


p/s: yes, i do understand they convert from units -> RM.

This post has been edited by cybpsych: Dec 23 2021, 10:31 AM

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