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atreyuangel
post Sep 13 2021, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Sep 13 2021, 05:33 AM)
A half OPV half Corvette like the RSN LMV doesn't really sounds all that bad.

Basically just a vehicle to carry those MICA around to shoot stuff flying on the EEZ with the added benefits of using it as PV & mines countermeasures or such.

Thought it does sound like a restructuring of 15 2 5 program since putting weapon on ship they wish to retired in 5 years doesn't sound like a bright ideas. Would probably worth it if they intend to use it for another 15 years.

Since words on the street the rebooted LMS is pretty much the size and capabilities of the Kedah class. Seems like a merging of both the 18 OPV & 18 LMS into a single program would take place.
NSM probably better be put on a truck kot? Since truck are a lot faster than a ship and pan Borneo is a thing.
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Mmg ada plan nak reboot LMS ni, tapi aku tak tahu nasib LMS skrg ni mcm mana if navy nak abandon pada agency lain atau teruskan operate. Some local shipyard ngan agents dah siap ngan tunggu nak kata putus je.

Procurement of MICA ngan NSM ni sebenarnya besar
pasal apa mcm mana ATM uses Aspide dan SPADA at the same time there is a plan tuk NSM juga as coastal defense. Sama macam MICA dari navy sampai la ke air force

tapi skrg ni tingal plan je la kot laugh.gif
bab planning kita meman terer, tapi bab execution bila dah sampai putrajaya....

sendiri mau ingat la
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post Sep 13 2021, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Sep 13 2021, 02:55 PM)
Heard that MICA is not something that the navy want but more of a something that boustead wanted to earn themselves plenty of kaching commission when TD & TUDM being force to pick it up as well whistling.gif

A better fit is probably to standardized it around ESSM which is basically just an Amraam.  Not the best of missiles but one that can we can get plenty  in our hands of in time of emergency considering the lists of country that are using it.
More of a similar concept to LMV. In which it prioritize air defense. Not really about getting those Saab designs LMV.

Those LMV are expensive probably because of its equipment & radar, they wanted to operate in others people water afterall far away from their own lands and thus can't relied on ground based radar.

ID vast territories + being an archipelago + underdeveloped land transportation network means they need more ASuW Corvette/fast attack boat. As for us,it's probably cheaper,faster, easier to just shoot those ASuW missiles from land.

Personally have no problem if RMN want to adopt RSN strategy. It make guessing what they going to do next easier. If they are apeing it, i can confidently say the next RMN ship after rebooted LMS is a Multi Role Combat Ship & MMEA going to get the OPV version of MRCS this Malaysia plan.

Which makes the MMEA mothership is something akin to absalon class & MRCS being something like class 31?
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Seingat aku Navy nak Sea Sparrow (ESSM), tapi nak dapatkan ESSM ni pun hari tu not as smooth at it is jugak. Aku tak ingat pasal apa, ada kaitan ngan Setis vs Tacticos jugak rasanya psal Setis ni lagi mesra MICA (kalau tak silap aku la)

btw, heh ada dah terlepas cakap MSA Boeing eh kat internet laugh.gif

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post Sep 13 2021, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Sep 13 2021, 10:49 PM)
Thought RMN Don't want those setis too?.

Personally since we have pulled quite a komedi and signed things we shouldn't and we likely can't get out of it, since I heard we already prepaid for those things we shouldn't get in the first place.

Sending those MICA & setis to kedah do sounds like a bright idea. If that's can't be done, send it to the rebooted LMS?
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RMN bukan tak open to the idea of Setis, cuma waktu tu
most of fleet in RMN uses tacticos, tacticos siap ada setup local company lagi kat Malaysia ni jadi for that sake commonality tu is a plus.
MICA system pun now is much more mature, ada je study pasal the NGPV to be fitted with MICA and NSM but aku tak follow up with the paper tu.

LCS?
we have paid the amount, skrg ni up to Bousted la to deliver, PSCND dulu mungkin lepas dari law suit pasal entiti tu dah takde, tapi Bousted will not be so lucky. But from the words the building is now continue, how much of the progress kene tunggu la.
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post Sep 16 2021, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Sep 15 2021, 09:40 PM)
hmm what is this?

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ni bukan Naza puya projek ka
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post Sep 16 2021, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Sep 16 2021, 11:40 AM)
Sorry. This is different than the orange one.

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This is made by Deftech. The front bonnet opens without lifting the headlight.
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This is made by Go Auto. Go Auto is not a company linked with NAZA.
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Ni bukan Dong Feng jugak ke?
eh Go Auto takde kaitan ngan Naza?
aku rasa mcm nampak anak dia waktu tu
hmm I could be wrong
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post Sep 16 2021, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Sep 16 2021, 03:00 PM)
Anak tan sri drpd bini lain. Bukan geng2 berfoya2 tu. Xdpt harta NAZA yg disapu bini pertama.
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Ohh patut laa

betul la ni based on dong feng tu kan?
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QUOTE(jwst1313 @ Sep 18 2021, 01:48 PM)
Well PT PAL has proven themselves again and again. They built many 7,000 to 10,000 tons support ships to Asean countriez and even to TLDM.

Talk to Indonesia engineer on  a subject and then you talk the same subject to a Malaysian engineer. See the difference .

PT PAL and ST Marine Engineering. The rest No.
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Well, I personally know a good Malaysia engineer who was at Bousted that was brought for LCS project
And now he is in Portsmouth with another major shipbuilding company and when I talk to him he just said "I give up"

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Sep 18 2021, 01:59 PM)
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to be honest we got much more good engineers than Indonesia. just the politicking and all these get rich quick scheme of selling mediocre stuff at premium prices wasted their skills and knowledge.
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he actually resign due to political issues

LCS is a good project he said to me, good enough for him to quit his job to pour his blood and sweat

tapi lepas tu
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post Sep 18 2021, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Jaq_Ishmael @ Sep 18 2021, 09:18 PM)
So Hornet is not the only bird that dropped the Paveway LGB during Op Daulat...
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post Sep 20 2021, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Sep 19 2021, 11:08 PM)
want area defence ship can ask unker sam to transfer uss ticonderoga since they gonna retire them anyway
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US nak bagi Oliver Hazard Perry dulu pun kita dah tolak
ni pulak lagi besar

memang tak la kot!
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Sep 20 2021, 03:28 PM)
aku kasi cadangan je
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haha
betul la tu cadangan
aku rasa baik tunggu Harpers Ferry class nak retired 2 jibik nanti
lagi ideal
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post Sep 20 2021, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Sep 20 2021, 04:07 PM)
Kalau tak nak kapal tapi nak missiles Aje boleh ke? smile.gif

Kalau Amek kapal tua, x mampu buat maintainece,
Kalau buat kapal baru x mampu beli missiles.
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Harpers Ferry tu MRSS
sah2 la kita nak body hahaha
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post Sep 20 2021, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Sep 20 2021, 04:40 PM)
X kalau kapal lain.
Mintak missiles je boleh ke?
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pastu dia bagi misil je
firing radar, launcher, warhead semua tak bagi brows.gif


jangan marah aa bang
guro2 je
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post Sep 25 2021, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Sep 25 2021, 03:52 PM)
$450 Mio?
Let's calculate the the closest option.
After RM 6 B is paid another RM 3 B is needed to finished 2 units LCS. That is RM4.5 B for each ship. RMN can get a DDG for US$1.2 B
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eh gomen bayar ke 3 billion tu
aku tak rasa depa nak bayar hari tu
skrg on Bousted tuk deliver atau kene saman
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post Oct 6 2021, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Oct 6 2021, 12:37 AM)
"TDM isytihar pengoperasian semula Batalion Ke-26 RAMD | Harian Metro"

https://www.hmetro.com.my/amp/mutakhir/2021...lion-ke-26-ramd

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dulu waktu bubar 26,27,28

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post Oct 6 2021, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Oct 6 2021, 09:46 AM)
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Setuju dengan pengoperasian semula 26 RAMD.

Rancangan nak buat battalion baru PGA rasa tak payah lah. Boleh je pindahkan battalion PGA sedia ada dari semenanjung ke sabah.
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Brigade tenggara la kot!
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QUOTE(junkyman @ Oct 6 2021, 11:05 AM)
With All Politikus and SONGLAP here, all those plans and talks are but - NATO / Empty talks only !!!!!!!!!!
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plans and talks are made by the ATM

execution bukan laugh.gif
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post Oct 10 2021, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Oct 10 2021, 11:14 PM)
Queen Elizabeth tak mai ke?
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Ada sekali!
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post Nov 12 2021, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Nov 12 2021, 08:40 AM)
With all the talk about ESSM & amraam
I assume it would be NASAM?
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tunggu je la brows.gif
jangan kene cantas ngan wahyu datang je
lagi satu kat MOF
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post Nov 12 2021, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Nov 12 2021, 04:36 PM)
wahyu sampai tu mmg xle tahan.
hahah
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dari dulu dah planning cantik je,
tapi pasal apa2 pun kene submit kat kerajaan jadi benda lain
contoh
nak missile hellfire depa baca menteri nak vellfire

ni superior aku nampak ni laugh.gif

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