QUOTE(White Palace @ Sep 23 2007, 05:28 PM)
Actually standard size of shih tzu is 9 to 16 pounds, it is not like maltese which is 4-6 pounds, just that petshops & many sellers like to tell the buyer, "very small one!" "wont grow big one!" "Nah, will grow like that only" then people thought shih tzu is small lor, but ends up buy back liao, grow out of expectation, but it is actually such size.
Yups. Alot of petshops would tell their customers that shih tzus are very tiny dogs... some would say "Toy" size or Mini shih tzu... but once grow big, the shih tzu reaches 8kg, then they would blame the dog eat too much blah blah or pet shop con them.
Some petshops tell owners to feed their shih tzu 1 tablespoon of food a day, resulting in underweight dogs that look like they may die very soon.... poor things. I have seen this with toy poodle.... sickening.
QUOTE(ALaN- @ Sep 23 2007, 05:42 PM)
HaHa ... its just an example ... never aspect d size of shih tzu is d same as maltese ... thats for sure ...some maltese hav a size of shih tzu ...
N others ...
n
many like to test breed ... juz out of curiosity to know how will it looks like ...
hmm .. at least dat for wat i thk ...
Agree with you on this one. Some thing "hey, why not I create a new breed? then can get demand" But alot never think of the consequences of what would happen if they breed. Also, many would cheat. Who knows, to get a super mini shih tzu, someone may have bred with maltese? That is why sometimes some shih tzus got longer faces, smaller eyes and the fur texture is not the same.
QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 23 2007, 10:49 PM)
the reason why i single out 'teacup' dogs and not 'doubtful' pedigrees is that unlike the latter which probably will only disappoint the owner, tea cup dogs come with a whole bunch of health issues.
again, everything stems from ppl wanting smaller, cuter dogs

Alot do not understand, there is no such thing as teacup.... it is just people breeding the runts of litters to runts, to get a tiny size of that breed. A pity coz many suffer from alot of ailments like bone growth, internal organs damaging faster, heart failure... these were what a vet told my friend about undersized dogs.
QUOTE(Pennywise @ Sep 23 2007, 11:57 PM)
I just came back from my friend, J's house. Apparently, J's sister, X bought 2 dogs earlier this year. It's a very horrible experience for her, someone with little to no experience with dog.
1. Female westie of 4 yrs - was previously used as a breeding dog
2. Miniature schnauzzer from Pet Family - was told 5 months but actually 8 months when she bought it.
Now here is the interesting story.
For Westie Story:A few pages ago, I wrote that I found this breeder Mr. Chan. When I was at his house, talking to him, watching his westies - he spoke to me about his previous litter. One was sold to a guy name Kevin from OUG, another was sold to a guy name Marcus living in Bayu Perdana, Klang and the last one, no idea.
Now, the funny thing is, X bought this westie from a guy name Marcus too! who said he got it from a breeder who lives in USJ 6 but the breeder's name is Mr. Chan too!
See, here is the funny thing, Marcus keep telling my friend's sister, X that Mr. Chan dont simply allow people to visit his dogpound but actually Mr. Chan and my friend were LIVING IN THE SAME NEIGHBOURHOOD!
Conclusion: This Marcus guy con my friend's sister, X for RM2.5k just for that 4 years old Westie beetch. I'd like to believe that Mr. Chan just innocently sold his 4 years Westie beetch to Marcus but didnt think Marcus would con my friend's sister.
For Miniature Schnauzer Story:The next thing, we talked about the MS which is actually a Standard Schnauzzer. After buying so many months from Pet Family, they are unable to produce the cert to my friend's sister, X. They said they cert has problem with MKA and is currently with MKA. X called MKA and MKA said the cert actually with breeder. After talking more details, X mentioned that the breeder may be from Kepong as the vet is from there. So, I told X to show me the medical card and it is the exact same medical card with Casper!!
Conclusion: Maybe this MS dont have cert to begin with but Pet Family con my friend's sister also! The breeder probably didnt have anything to do with this again but it's the pet shop that setup stories like cert with MKA, got problem and etc.
Wah..... kena cheated. But are you sure is a standard schnauzer? Coz standard, quite big, almost like a large mongrel size.... It could be just a larger size of the MS.
This why when buying dogs, need to do alot of research first, best is never get from petshop and always get directly from breeder. Never believe agent or reseller or breeder's friends.... always something fishy about them.
QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 24 2007, 12:21 AM)
hmm... did not know that they are standard schnauzers in Malaysia... some of the larger M.S. around are actually the breed 'standard' size, and most of the rest are waaay undersized... esp those you get from pet stores, again smaller dog syndrome
Yah, alot are undersized....