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 Fund kena margin call sold $3 billion stocks, Exposure $15 billion USD of losses

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CoffeeDude
post Mar 29 2021, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 29 2021, 03:44 PM)
They don't see gambling as a vice but risk taking is necessary, and good indeed if you can reap in profit.
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I definitely see gambling as a vice.

I guess I am not the typical Asian.

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SUSAngelic Layer
post Mar 29 2021, 04:00 PM

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Nomura filed 2 billion in claims against the firm.
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post Mar 29 2021, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(sinkiebaru @ Mar 29 2021, 02:46 PM)
Why is the candlestick the wrong colour? Going down should be red, this one is green.
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means when it goes up don't buy (red warning)

when it goes down, good times to buy (green opportunity]
GHBZDK
post Mar 29 2021, 04:12 PM

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i think everyone missing point here...
BBB or SSS sifus?
thxxht
post Mar 29 2021, 04:17 PM

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so how the heck can he still get margin / leverage after being banned from trading?
SUSAngelic Layer
post Mar 29 2021, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(thxxht @ Mar 29 2021, 04:17 PM)
so how the heck can he still get margin / leverage after being banned from trading?
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Ban lifted already in 2018
SUSAngelic Layer
post Mar 29 2021, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Mar 29 2021, 04:12 PM)
i think everyone missing point here...
BBB or SSS sifus?
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One can always aim for 5% gain out of 50% retracement in a day.
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post Mar 29 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Mar 29 2021, 02:44 PM)
tal faham a word even here

eli5 plz
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dude borrow money to gamble on stock market, stock market go down, banks liquidate his holdings (margin call) to avoid losing money, market sold off even more.

moral of the story, don't borrow other people's money to gamble.
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post Mar 29 2021, 04:23 PM

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Chyna punya company. lel..

anyone dare buy Chinese stock is asking for suicide..
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post Mar 29 2021, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(thxxht @ Mar 29 2021, 04:17 PM)
so how the heck can he still get margin / leverage after being banned from trading?
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Chyna helang la obviously.

you pipit play by different rules.

He helang, got privilege and CCP government.
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post Mar 29 2021, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(thxxht @ Mar 29 2021, 04:21 PM)
dude borrow money to gamble on stock market, stock market go down, banks liquidate his holdings (margin call) to avoid losing money, market sold off even more.

moral of the story, don't borrow other people's money to gamble.
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all margin call is loan?
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post Mar 29 2021, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Mar 29 2021, 04:30 PM)
all margin call is loan?
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Let's say you got $10, they let you borrow $100 to buy stock out of the $10 you have, so 1:10 leverage.
You use all $100 to buy in a stock, now the stock drop 25% due to dilution, so they ask you to come out with $25 in cash to cover the losses, you don't have the money to pay back so they have to sell all in the market to recover money and you still owe them for the outstanding amount.
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post Mar 29 2021, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Mar 29 2021, 04:23 PM)
Chyna punya company. lel..

anyone dare buy Chinese stock is asking for suicide..
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You can buy. But do not hold long.

China businessmen only look to earn quickly and save as much as possible to move the money out of the country.
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post Mar 29 2021, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 29 2021, 04:44 PM)
Let's say you got $10, they let you borrow $100 to buy stock out of the $10 you have, so 1:10 leverage.
You use all $100 to buy in a stock, now the stock drop 25% due to dilution, so they ask you to come out with $25 in cash to cover the losses, you don't have the money to pay back so they have to sell all in the market to recover money and you still owe them for the outstanding amount.
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fark

so if can pay dat 25 wat happen
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post Mar 29 2021, 05:11 PM

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all or nthing
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post Mar 29 2021, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Mar 29 2021, 05:03 PM)
fark

so if can pay dat 25 wat happen
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Then can cover, nothing happens, you still hold the stock.
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post Mar 29 2021, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 29 2021, 04:44 PM)
Let's say you got $10, they let you borrow $100 to buy stock out of the $10 you have, so 1:10 leverage.
You use all $100 to buy in a stock, now the stock drop 25% due to dilution, so they ask you to come out with $25 in cash to cover the losses, you don't have the money to pay back so they have to sell all in the market to recover money and you still owe them for the outstanding amount.
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not 10:1 leverage?
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post Mar 29 2021, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Mar 29 2021, 04:30 PM)
all margin call is loan?
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technically, no. It isn't even a loan.

Margin call is just additional & available funds that sits inside your broker trading account.

Think of it as a credit card. The money is there for you to spend to buy more stocks. But one rule, you must have at least remaining 40% balance at all times.

If you don't have 40%, then you are required to top up with money of your own until it goes to 40%. Otherwise, the broker will liquidate your stock position to reach back to 40% of available balance.




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post Mar 29 2021, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 29 2021, 02:30 PM)
- He was also heavily invested in Chinese tech stock, and the margin call caused a significant fallout in China.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Mar 29 2021, 04:23 PM)
Chyna punya company. lel..

anyone dare buy Chinese stock is asking for suicide..
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 10 2021, 04:08 PM)
Good time to buy. PRC only going upward in long run
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post Mar 29 2021, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(titanmelvin @ Mar 29 2021, 05:16 PM)
not 10:1 leverage?
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Same thing

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