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Jordy
post Aug 30 2007, 09:22 AM

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Dzi, you can get your agent to email you the market wraps..
Anytime my agent gets her market wrap, she'll forward it to me..
So I can look at the fund's performances and their allocations data for that period..
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post Aug 31 2007, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Aug 30 2007, 11:20 AM)
This market wrap for unitholders and agents are different?
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Yes, they're different..
The client version is more of the wrap up of the economy, and the expected outlook..
But the agent copy has an additional information, which is the statistical analysis of the performance for each fund, and the allocations..
I'm lucky that my agent sends me the agent copy, so I can see how my funds are allocated and the gearings for each funds.. tongue.gif
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post Sep 1 2007, 07:29 AM

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Look at the end of the report..
Your copy doesn't have the allocations breakdown and also the technical analysis of the funds..
Should be around page 3-4..
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post Sep 4 2007, 11:09 AM

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This means dividend..
These 2 funds are paying out dividends for their financial ending period..
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post Sep 7 2007, 12:58 PM

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Hmm, so nice to see my funds are all gaining steadily.. smile.gif
Never regret having them in my portfolio..
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post Sep 17 2007, 12:24 PM

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Haha, how not to get money with UT right..?
Easy money lol.. tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2007, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 17 2007, 06:11 PM)
i've been having this theory for sometime.. perhaps you guys can help me out.

what are the reason(s) for a fund company to keep on introducing new funds?
i know, there're the obvious reasons.. how about the less obvious ones?

have you guys ever thought about a fund company doing intra-trade, intra-transfer amongst their funds?

i got gut feeling that something of that sort is happening.. it's a huge scheme and it somehow relates to why new funds are required..

thus far, it's a theory..
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New funds are introduced to keep investors interested..
With the ever growing opportunities, fund managers have to get in the new funds to suit for the situation..
It's also a way to keep the funds recycled, while keeping costs low for new prospective investors..
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post Sep 18 2007, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 18 2007, 11:29 AM)
i find this is quite the standard reply/response you get anywhere..
however, am not sure what exactly you meant by:
1. recycling of funds
2. keeping the cost low

..have in relation to launching of new funds altogether? care to elaborate?
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As prices of old funds are already trading at premium, they can keep the cost of investment low to new investors by launching new funds..
Normally the IPO price would be low, thus getting renewed interest by investors..
While new funds are released, the charges are discounted during the IPO period..
When the fund managers see that their existing funds are doing great, they'll launch a fund that mimics it..
So they need the new funds to stock up on more counters..
You don't see many people buying the old funds, because most of the cake has already been eaten..
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post Sep 18 2007, 04:01 PM

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Yeah, true..
From my perspective, I look at new funds because most of the new funds are investing in the most recent hot portfolio..
Old funds can't really change their scope anymore as cherroy said, so new funds is the only way to go..
Get into what's hot for some quick cash.. smile.gif
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post Sep 19 2007, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 19 2007, 01:47 PM)
Slightly OFF topic.

I have invested in 4 (relatively new funds) PIADF,PCSF,PFEPRF & PIABF. I'm looking to invest in the older funds, any recommendations? I'm aggressive, so only equities please.
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Have you consulted your agent..?
Your agent should be able to recommend you some..

But here's my take, sorted in descending order:

PCSF
PIADF
PBADF
PFEPRF

I have other funds as well, but they're not performing well..
So going to switch them to these funds..
You can load more into PCSF, since the typhoon is over now.. laugh.gif
I believe PCSF is just in its infancy, a higher jump should come closer to the Olympics..
What's better is that PCSF might be able to pay a high dividend at the end of the FY before Olympics..

PIADF is stable income+growth fund, you could consider topping up more..
I'm estimating a dividend of not less than 3 sen, with growth potentially to 0.28 at its FY end..

For older funds, you could try PFEDF..
It has quite a track record, and the dividend was almost 4 sen if I'm not mistaken..
I can check my records for you, or you could ask your agent.. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 20 2007, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Sep 20 2007, 10:33 AM)
If you want aggressive, PAGF is an aggressive fund and it has been launched for more than 10 years.
Anyway, a local fund PRSF is a good choice, mostly invest in bluechips.
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PRSF already 13 years, so it has almost peaked..
Our local market is not moving very fast now..
The best is to choose regional markets..
Better leverage opportunities..
PCSF is the best performing regional fund at the moment, and more upside as Olympics is closing in..

EDIT: If you look at percentage wise, PCSF made a little over 2% since yesterday, but PAGF only managed a little less than 1.7%, while PRSF, not much to say.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 20 2007, 01:48 PM)
Well, it has reached it's peak before the recent correction. Now still can buy mar
If KLCI goes back to it's previous high, I'm seeing another 10% more to go for this PRSF fund

And yes PCSF is kind of good for those with the balls smile.gif


Added on September 20, 2007, 1:48 pmDon't slam me, I might be wrong tongue.gif
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I didn't have the balls before, so PCSF only stands at 10% in my portfolio at the moment..
Soon, I'll be switching 45% from my other funds into PCSF, and wait for Olympics.. laugh.gif
Look at the bigger picture, regional funds are breaking more previous highs than us..
We only managed once if I'm not mistaken, and that was at end of May..?! wink.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 20 2007, 06:53 PM)
I also have no balls till now so not really eyeing for PCSF even though it's so attractive.
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Lol, investors take calculated risk..
I'm betting on PCSF for now..
Once my other funds are released, I'll go into PCSF.. drool.gif
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post Sep 24 2007, 08:38 PM

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My funds are doing so well..
Been up these few days..
HK hitting record highs 4 days straight..
Tomorrow I'm expecting better profit for my funds..
Just felt wasted that I have not topped up more..
Haihz.. wink.gif
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post Sep 25 2007, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 25 2007, 10:03 AM)
look beyond a "few days"..
i've got a funny feeling that the world is playing musical-chair..
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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 25 2007, 03:47 PM)
Muscial chair? Such an abstract description, what does it mean?
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I think he's being too optimistic..
So lwb, since you're so optimistic now, I guess you're not holding any investments right now..?
And your "feeling" is based on..? wink.gif
People can say anything, but just don't mind to elaborate..
Funny people, no..? rclxub.gif

EDIT: Today's prices all very nice, all green..
My PCSF still top performer today.. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 25 2007, 06:43 PM)
Too Optimistic = Less risk, Less gain

For those with bigger balls (like Jordy), that dared to buy during the down time... mar untung now lor smile.gif
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Haha, thanks for the compliments, but I don't have big balls..
Just not "kiasi" only now, as I still need to get more money to cover my debt.. rclxub.gif
Actually the right time is buy during market downtime..
Where got people buy during uptime woh..? laugh.gif
But my move is really a daring one, to go in such an aggressive market..
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post Sep 25 2007, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 25 2007, 07:42 PM)
you're reading me way out of coordinate!!
if i elaborate, you'd probably wouldn't understand..  what's the merit of doing so?
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If you don't elaborate, you can't blame me that I have misread your statement right..?
You don't just come in and add a statement and hope people will be rich from that like an angel's blessing.. rclxub.gif
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post Sep 25 2007, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 25 2007, 08:17 PM)
If want to post, must prepare to share to those who are less smarter than you mar

Merit = Good Karma smile.gif And with that the share you buy will UP UP UP

Not everyone here is as experience as each other. So if possible share info. I believe knowledge are meant to be shared and not bring to grave  hmm.gif
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Yeah lo, like me.. cry.gif
I'm going to pump money in again before 1st October..
Dzi, if you wanna pump, you still have the chance..
October 1st is the official date mainland investors start going into HK.. icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 25 2007, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 25 2007, 08:58 PM)
I switch PRSF into PGF, PIOF, SMALLCAP
Then pump some money into PRSF again

Salary out in 2 days time...
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PGF growth is limited..
My mom invested for me since I was still a baby..
Until now not even 100% gain.. laugh.gif
I'm helping her to switch her PGF into PCSF.. icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 26 2007, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 25 2007, 11:40 PM)
How old are you?

user posted image
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Eh, that time I checked the return wasn't so much..
Must have mixed with other charts as well.. tongue.gif
So I guess they made a lot of distributions then..?

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