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kingkong81
post Jun 13 2008, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 13 2008, 11:22 PM)
There is no affordable offering from Public Mutual. Not sure from other fund houses like HwangDBS, OSK-UOB, CIMB and etc.
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The PB Capital Protected Dragon Fund initial investment is at rm1000 only...additional is rm100.

I guess it is quite affordable
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post Jun 15 2008, 02:44 AM

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Well it is only normal for all investors to worry...as market crisis like this, who will not, some more it is their money. Sometimes, in crisis, the objective of their investments are clouded by all this.

Therefore, it will always b good to remind them on the objective of the long-term investment.

Do agree that market crisis provides opportunity. Those who can seize it & withstand it the storm will be able to reap the fruits from it.

In any case, it will be a good time to look into balancing the investment profile, if it is needed to preserve the wealth 1st before going out for more. Besides, the best way to invest in these kind of market situation will still be monthly investment to accumulate more units at lower price.

My 2 cents.
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post Jun 15 2008, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(outsider @ Jun 15 2008, 09:13 AM)
pm changing their new form again....nia mah.....i damn hate this....always need to buy a new form....buy nvm, but scare ask my client sign the old form and then cannot submit it.....nia sing..... they should inform us by email saying that their form cant be used. at least we all this inactivate agent know what the new form mah....kaninia
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As the matter of fact...PM have informed all agents through emails when they r changing the Cash & EPF investment forms. Besides, you should also take the initiatives to get more latest updates fr your upline.

Well, the onus will be on you to go check it out yourself....your are an agent, no matter u r active or not.

In any case, you can exchange your old forms with the NEW one....1 on 1 exchange, no extra charges.

I do not think you should be afraid to get your clients to sign the new forms...this is not your fault that new forms are being used. I guess as a client, i will b appreciative if my agent inform me the forms hv changed and come to inform me. So, nothing to be afraid.

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BTW...just to inform again...

NEW FORMS TO BE USED FROM NOW ONWARDS are:
1) Initial Cash Investment Form
2) EPF Investment Form
3) Switching/Repurchase Form

All old forms will be ceased to be effective. Only new forms will be accepted.
Old forms can be exchange at Public Mutual Branches without extra charges.
kingkong81
post Jun 28 2008, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(hk_gg @ Jun 27 2008, 11:53 PM)
i heard from an agent tat PM Unit Trust Consultant hv2 recuit ppl to join as agent every year?
is it true?
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It is not a must to recruit people every year to join PM in order to stay in business.

But in order to move up the rank & grow faster...recruiting ppl is one of the best way.

It is a "human" business after all....heard about leveraging? This is one of the leveraging strategy...more ppl to do the work in less time.

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post Jun 28 2008, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(bafukie @ Jun 28 2008, 08:04 AM)
damn... make it like mlm
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MLM...well it is almost like MLM...
In fact in almost any sales line that you encounter...mostly all are MLM based. Even selling those water purifier guys & those fella selling insurance...they r all the same.

That is the fact...bcoz they know the power of people...the leveraging effect.

Like it or not, that is the way for now.

QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 28 2008, 09:06 AM)
How about those who become a UTC and invest themselves?
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They can continue as it is...they can juz being a UTC level if they do not wish to get promoted to higher rank & get more commsission or grow a group to get higher income.

So it is your choice... to stay on as it is & not moving anywhere...or strive to move up.

People always have a choice...smile.gif


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post Jun 28 2008, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(hk_gg @ Jun 28 2008, 07:14 PM)
oh ya..10q 4urs info lah..
actually i decide 2join my friend as PM UTC..but he said tat need recuit ppl leh every year....tis made me blur ady..haiz...
Another ques is: if i joined under him, but i also dun even recuit ppl..then he also can do anything on me lo..is it?
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Wat can he do to u??? Nothing...

U join under your friend, he bcome your upline, it is the responsibility of the upline to guide you (but you have to take the initiative as well)...

definitely your upline will encourage u to recruit ppl so that u can grow your 'business' in unit trust. You grow, he will grow as well.

But if u dun recruit, its ok as well...and he cant do anything to you.

But do inform that there are certain criteria to be fulfilled to gain promotion within certain period of time.
Ask your 'future' upline of yours to explain more on this to you...smile.gif...else, u can PM me oso.

But when u join something, you oso wish to move ahead right??
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post Jul 3 2008, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jul 3 2008, 08:20 PM)
Current funds are CHEAP!! I'm so excited. A part of me wants to wait, a part of me wants to horde as much cheap funds as possible biggrin.gif
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More volatility is still being expected.

Instead of putting all ur $$ out at one go...u can consider buying at smaller amount & at constant time interval.
Like this, u might be able to capitalise on the volatility of the market to your advantage.
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post Jul 5 2008, 02:27 PM

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Yep...timing the market is a very tedious job...and most of the time, we might not get them right.

Like all human...we have greed, fear & emotion which will cloud our mind when we try to time market & this will make us making bad decision at times...

It need not be the lowest, as long as the price is low....that is good enuf, rite?



QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 5 2008, 09:36 AM)
@Kingkong

Those who buy with a monthly standing instruction with the bank tend to gain more compared to one off purchase ( in a down trend market )

I do agree with what you say.

Timing to buy at the bottom is quite impossible, and you get to know the bottoms only the markets are up substantially ( when you wait and see  that it is really  a bottom ).
My 2sen opinion.
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post Jul 10 2008, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(kokanchai @ Jul 10 2008, 10:18 AM)
i had invest 10k on itikian public mutual..

since last year till now..not even 1 year..from 2.5 standart drop till 1.9 now..

crazy..!!
anyone have such feeling so?
feeling told me.. public mutual will be launch a new fund..withhin 2-3month
how abt those old one?they just like put aside didnt pay much attention on it..
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Just to stressed on the old funds get ignore thing....

I can assure you that this is not happening. From year 1997 till now, numerous new funds have been launched...but as you can see, those funds back in 1997 they r still running and still making good return.

Setting up a new fund is to try to tap into new investment opportunity & to cater to new investment needs. Definitely some one will be in-charge of the new funds...but at the same time...there are still people getting in-charge of the existing ones.

With this kind of bear market and volatility...no investment house will be spared from the drop...not even PMutual or CIMB or OSK or HwangDBS...etc. It is all affected...

But definitely, it is understandable that you will feel lost, panic or uncertain as this is normal human feelings. But bear in mind the 1st objective of getting invested in Unit Trust is not to get quick return, but long term return. In between there will sure be some volatility.

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post Aug 5 2008, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Aug 5 2008, 12:16 PM)
i think i want to sell all my UT in public balance fund.
but will loss about 20% amount that i invest
should i sell now or wait...
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If you do not need the money now...i would advise you to hold it for the moment.

Selling now at the lowest point of the market might not b too good...selling will just lock in your loss.

I would suggest of switching it into bond fund 1st....and wait for the right time to go back in.
Another way will be continually topping up to capitalise on the low pricing to lower down your cost.

But if you seriously need the money urgently, then selling it just the last option.
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post Aug 5 2008, 09:23 PM

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Yup...noted that.

Balanced fund is half equity/half bond...

Thanks for pointing that out smile.gif

QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 5 2008, 08:45 PM)
If interest rate being raised rapidly (I don't think BNM will do it), balanced fund might not balanced anymore.

Interest rate goes up, bonds price goes down.
Interest rate goes up, equities generally don't perform well.

Personally I don't like balanced fund. If really want to have a balance portfolio, then better split the initial money to invest one equities fund and one bond fund, like that you have better control on the balance issue as well as reduce the intital service charges.

Equities fund charges you 5% initial service charge
Balanced fund also charges you 5%
Bond fund generally 1%

So you bought balanced fund 5% charges incurred.

Split the money into half to buy 2 fund,
Equities fund 0.5 x 5% = 2.5%
Bond fund 0.5 x 1% = 0.5%

Total charges = 3%

You save 2% if one uses the initial money to buy 1 equities and 1 bond fund compared to use all the money to buy 1 balanced fund.

But since the forumer had bought the balanced fund, switching to bond fund might not a good choice, unless expect a big drop in equities and see bond fund as temporarily park place to reenter the equities side, then it is workable. Otherwise, it is much more advisable to keep on, as it might a bit late to do anything out of it.
So it depends on people view and expectation from the equities side currently to judge how should one doing his/her money.

Just my 2 cents.
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post Sep 6 2008, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Sep 6 2008, 10:20 PM)
how to sell our fund?
directly go to public bank
how long will it take.
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I'm not sure wat u wanted to ask here...or..are u an agent??

To invest in Public Bank (PB) Series of funds...u can go directly to public bank to get it.

To invest in Public (P) series of Funds...u need to get Unit Trust Consultant (i.e. agent) from Public Mutual.

Both series of funds are managed by Public Mutual.

How Long it takes??
to process??? on the spot if you hav all necessary document...which is ur photostat i/c only
Your account will b created in less than a week...max 2 weeks
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post Sep 7 2008, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 7 2008, 12:23 AM)
Bro, you misunderstood. He means redeeming the fund smile.gif

mr_ashraf,

Call up your agent and sign the form to sell. Or if you lost your agent, call in to any Public Mutual branch and ask for redemption form.
Just fill in your details and sign on the spot. Pass it over the counter and it will be done for you. Mark as "walk-in", but you need a photocopy of your IC.
The process takes up to 10 calendar days for your money to be credited into your bank account smile.gif
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aaa...thats explain it, haha thanks thumbup.gif
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post Oct 2 2008, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(6@9 @ Oct 2 2008, 11:35 AM)
this mutual fund using epf im getting confius about it. Can anyone tell me more how we do business with it.
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Another thing to note is that EPF investment is only restricted to local funds only (i.e. 100% Malaysia)

Currently, these are the funds that are eligible for EPF investment...choose according to your needs & risk tolerance smile.gif
1)Public Index Fund
2)Public Islamic Balanced Fund
3)Public Islamic Dividend Fund
4)Public Islamic Equity Fund
5)Public Islamic Income Fund
6)Public Regular Savings Fund
7)Public Islamic Optimal Growth Fund
8)Public Islamic Select Enterprise Fund
9)Public Islamic Select Treasures Fund
10)Public Islamic Money Market Fund
11)Public Sector Select Fund (CLOSED)
12)Public Islamic Sector Select Fund (CLOSED)
13)Public Select Bond Fund
14)Public Money Market Fund

The amount allowable to withdraw is from your EPF Account 1 only, and according to your age, which will determine the maximum amount you can take out to invest.
(Calculation wise, @skybees gave a good example above)

You can only withdraw once every 3 months
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post Oct 10 2008, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Oct 10 2008, 08:19 AM)
Hello, i have 6k +/- units in unit trust.. and it is handled by my mom, she bought it 5-6 years back. Now i'm start working n start to concern in investment so i checked with my mom, the agent has switched the fund to Public Money Market Fund recentlty.

is this a good fund to invest at the moment? i check the price and it is 1.1 at the moment.. should i ask my mom to switch to fund that currently at low price e.g growth fund..

what u think?
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Yep...the agent switch it out into MMF most probably the main reason is to preserve the capital in current turbulent times.

You can switch it out back to equity funds later on if you think it is d right time
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post Oct 11 2008, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Oct 11 2008, 09:02 AM)
any recommended fund? b4 this i heard growth fund is good
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Depends on your risk tolerance & preference as well
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QUOTE(kokanchai @ Oct 30 2008, 07:02 PM)
hey bro,we are in the same boat..
really deepshit..
the time i brought with invest Rm5k 0.25
now the new result for today 0.1295
if now,i wanna take out my money?
how much it will allow me to take out?
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

really lose confident..
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there is no limit if u plan to withdraw/redeem all

But if u plan to withdraw partially, it will b minimum 1000 units

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In economy crisis tsunami...every1 r badly hit, not only Public Mutual. This is one of the risk in investment. The whole world major market has dropped more than 50% & PCIF which is an equity fund will also be exposed to this.

Unit trust is best for long term...but depending on different situation, may require you to take certain action (profit taking/average down)...
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 30 2008, 07:29 PM)
NO matter what happens, don't take your money out now. Otherwise, you've just did what many fall trap to.

Buy high sell low.

Wait and hold till it goes up. Buy high sell high and not lose so much
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I think currently d best thing to do is to average down slowly.

Wait & hold till it go up...not to say cannot...but will only take a long time to breakeven back to your buying price. As we hv to understand that current financial crisis is widespread & not d same as before. The booming of d market will maybe take a bit longer than before...analysts predict the real recovery in markets to starts only by end of 2009.

my 2 cents
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SOME UPDATES ON PUBLIC MUTUAL SPECIAL PROMOTION

Public Mutual are pleased to announce that we will be offering a Special Service Charge of 5% (0.5% discount on normal 5.5%) on all our equity funds!!

The offer starts on 3rd November 2008 and ending on 3rd December 2008!
This special service charge will be extended to all cash transactions (including standing instructions, RCA instructions and switching of low-load units) into the equity funds during the said period.

If need more info...can PM me

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post Dec 9 2008, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(socratesman @ Dec 8 2008, 09:01 PM)
I signed up for Telemutual, thinking I could get a summary of my account numbers (i forgot which funds I have now)
But the system need me to input my acc num first doh.gif
Waste of time...now have to get acc numbers from agent, then only can use Telemutual doh.gif
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Actually when you get your statement from Public Mutual...it will have account No. printed there.

Else, get ur agent...u pay service charge remember...use it tongue.gif

else, u also can call Public Mutual Customer Service, they can help as well


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