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kingkong81
post Dec 27 2008, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(ethanhan @ Dec 27 2008, 07:11 PM)
Hi everyone,

after i read page 80 n 81, i started to become more confused. Currently Im still holding myself from buying any fund for a moment. As humbly, i would like to ask advise. Is it now not the right moment to invest into any fund yet though the price is looked low.

Do advise,pros out there.
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Back to basic no.1 - Buy low, Sell High

Currently, the pricing is all attractive...definitely it will be good time to go in...

But read basic no.2 - Unit Trust is for long term...at least 3 years or more
So, if you have spare cash that u can keep there n not using it for 3 - 5 years at least, then you can consider going in.

Currently, with such market situation, it is more suitable for long-term target trader...where they lock in the lower price now, n wait for future gain.

Short term investment is never in UT investment...even 1 year is consider short.

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U can never time when the bottom will b reached...so, as long as the price is low, it will be good enuf. Remember, long term.


Added on December 27, 2008, 8:54 pm
QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Dec 27 2008, 07:28 PM)
iam thinking to sell all my UT fund..
loss about 32%
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Selling it now may not be a good idea...selling will juz realised your paper loss.
If u dun need d money...keep it for the time being.

Up & down in investment is normal...especially when v r going for long term & met wif these kind of crisis.

But if u really really need the money...then by all mean, sell it

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post Jan 1 2009, 06:17 PM

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PUBLIC MUTUAL DECLARATION OF DISTRIBUTION
FOR FINANCIAL YEAR ENDING 31st DECEMBER 2008


FInal gross distribution for following funds:
1) Public Saving Fund (PSF) - 7.5 sen/unit
2) Public Focus Select Fund (PFSF) - 1.25 sen/unit
3) Public Islamic Enhanced Bond Fund (PIEBF) - 1.75 sen/unit
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post Jan 7 2009, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Jutawan @ Jan 6 2009, 09:46 PM)
KLCI reaching more than 900 points already, is Malaysian Economy recovery process???
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Maybe....Maybe not...

We still not sure the bottom has reached...the economic numbers are not in good note as well.
This year, especially the 1st half of the year is expected to be a bit hard on...as the effect of recession might be truly felt

But as they said, market is always trading 6months ahead...
Even with more grim reports coming out, US market has taken it well without much huge drops like previous time. Maybe people r getting used & already expected the bad readings..but it will need all investors confidence to be back in order to force through a real recovery process.

It is still early to tell...


My 2 cents
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post Jan 8 2009, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Limster88 @ Jan 7 2009, 10:41 PM)
Hi all sifu sifu of Public Mutual. I'm new here so pls guide and teach me.

I recently just bought my first fund, Public Equity Fund on 2 Jan 2009. I invested 2k in it.

I've checked the NAV price at that time, which is 0.2175 on 2 Jan.

My agent told me that it will take around 1 month to process the details as I'm a new investor. My question is, when they finally process my details, they will price it according to the NAV price at 2 Jan rite? Or is it according to the NAV price on the day they process it?

And what do you guys think about PEF? I've made a bit of comparison with the other funds, and while the other funds have higher returns/distributions, PEF's main advantage is its low NAV price, which means i get more units, which also means I only require the NAV price to increase slightly in order to double up my investment. I also understand that it is riskier, since a slight decrease would mean I lose more money, since I have more units. Please give me your 2 cents on this.

PS: My agent initially suggested PITTIKAL, but I didn't want a moderate fund, since my mom already bought Public Regular Savings Fund for me, but it's under her name. This PEF is bought by me using the money I earned from part time, so its entirely my own. Is it wise to go into equity funds at times like this? Especially an aggressive fund?

I thank you all in advance!!!


Added on January 7, 2009, 10:49 pmAnd also, is my calculation correct?

Investment / NAV + 5.5% charge = Total Units

RM2000 / 0.2175 + (0.2175 x 5.5%)
RM2000 / 0.2175 + 0.0119625
RM2000 / 0.2294625 = 8716.02 units
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1) The price will be based on submission date. If your agent submit on 2nd Jan, then it will follow 2nd Jan price.

2) Though price is lower...we also have to look into potential of the funds. Price high or low...wat matter is % of return, though getting more units at lower price also contributes a bit. So, look into the funds' potential 1st...

High risk, high return...but it oso come with possibility of high loss.....

Just remember, dun hope for instant return in unit trust, it is for long term, so u hv to keep there for few yrs.

3) Total units = [(Capital invested)/1.055] / NAV

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post Jan 8 2009, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Limster88 @ Jan 8 2009, 12:24 PM)
Thanks!        notworthy.gif

Since I'm a student, I don't have a current account to write check. On the day I purchase, I went to a public bank branch with the agent, filled the form and immediately pay cash through the counter. I paid in the morning around 11 AM. So should calculate the NAV according to that day right?

So,
Total units = [(Capital invested)/1.055] / NAV

(RM2000 / 1.055) / 0.2175
= 8716.02 units

I also plan to contribute RM100 monthly into the fund, taking a bit of advantage while the NAV is still low to maximize the units I get. I will hold it for around 3 years time. At least make something useful out of this recession, since it undoubtedly cut down a lot of job prospects for this year and next year and I'm graduating end of this year!!  icon_question.gif


Added on January 8, 2009, 12:28 pmAnd another thing, we only make money either through the appreciation of the NAV price and the distribution that the fund makes right? Or is there other factors that come into play?  rclxub.gif

Thanks again in advance!!!    notworthy.gif
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Yep...it will b according to the price the day u submit.

All the factors that come into plays will be the one that decides the market performance & in return reflected to your NAV....increase/decrease.

yep...we only make money by appreciation of NAV...
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post Jan 12 2009, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 12 2009, 08:38 PM)
Any idea what is this Public Mutual Online for?

https://www.publicmutualonline.com.my/
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A new online service for existing Public Mutual investors which launched today.

It facilitates :
1) additional investment into existing fund
2) initial investment in new funds account by an existing fund holder
3) Enquire Acc balance
4) View E-statement/report
5) Changes personal profile info (address, password, distribution instruction, etc)

IT do not support REDEMPTION & SWITCHING currently.

Those who wanted to apply for this service can get the FORM from Public Mutual branches/agents or download it at the website https://www.publicmutualonline.com.my ,

and submit it PERSONALLY at any public mutual branches.

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post Jan 12 2009, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(Secret_Garden @ Jan 12 2009, 11:36 PM)
Can I submit the form to public bank?
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NO...only at Public Mutual branches...it is said bcoz "due to security purposes"
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post Jan 13 2009, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 13 2009, 01:26 AM)
Only at branch offices! That is a little inconvenient.

They also don't offer registration via fax or mail in. doh.gif
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YES...all have to be done personally by the unitholders itself....

Which i think is oso quite incovenient...
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post Feb 1 2009, 09:29 PM

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PUBLIC MUTUAL DECLARATION OF DISTRIBUTION
FUNDS WITH FINANCIAL YEAR ENDING AT 31ST JAN 2009




Public Mutual are pleased to inform all unitholders on the declaration of gross distribution for following funds:

1) Public Index Fund (PIX) ~ 5.00 sen/unit
2) Public Money Market Fund (PMMF) ~ 3.00 sen/unit
3) Public Enhanced Bond Fund (PEBF) ~ 2.00 sen/unit
4) Public Islamic Optimal Growth Fund ~ 0.30 sen/unit
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post Feb 5 2009, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Feb 5 2009, 06:37 PM)
from my details PIX is only 3.00 sen/unit.

so which one's true?
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100% confirmed PIX is 5.00 sen/unit

Ask your agent to check properly the circular sent to all agents.

A press statement will be release soon (mayb 2mr) on this matter. So u can double confirm with it
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post Feb 5 2009, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Limster88 @ Feb 5 2009, 10:00 PM)
I got 1 question.....

If I make an additional investment through Public Bank E-Banking on the 2 February at night, the NAV price will be according to 2/2/2009 or the price on 3/2/2009?
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It will be on 3rd Feb 2009...the cut off time is 4.00pm
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post Feb 6 2009, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(shakiraa @ Feb 6 2009, 12:51 AM)
i invest under Public Islamic Select Treasyres Fund under EPF scheme, is this fund OK?

i just invest coz ppl ajak only, dunno kena con or not. sad.gif
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Should actually try to understand wat you want to invest before jumping in...
Cannot say con u oso...no 1 force to invest...

In any case... PISTF basically is high risk fund...similar a bit to Small Cap fund.
Depends...if u r looking for higher capital growth...this one should b good to give you that.
Remember...unit trust is long term investment
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QUOTE(bmw118 @ Mar 9 2009, 08:37 PM)
hi kingkong,

would like to check something with you.

eg i invest 1k, 5.00 sen/unit mean how much i can get?

1080 per annum?

need ur advice on this?

which fund is the best fund and give the best return so far?

anyone?
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 9 2009, 09:20 PM)
Assuming PIX price = 0.5000
RM1,000 = 2,000 units
If the distribution is 5.00sen, then your total payout is 2,000 x RM0.05 = RM100

"which fund is the best fund and give the best return so far?"

There are way too many funds in Public Mutual's stable, so we can't really say which is best and which is not. Each of them have different benefits in different situations. How do you define "best return"? 1 year? 3 years? 5 years? Most awards won? I mean, there are even TONS of measurements for unit trust funds, there is no definite answer, and again it depends on what type of returns are you looking at.
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bmw118...

As wat Jordy replied...u have to define wat is the best return for urself.

5% p.a. for 3 yrs? 10% for 3yrs/5yrs?? Then you from there you can decides the type of funds that can help achieving this. But be realistic as well...

For the distribution part...though they announced 5.00 sen, but you will not get full, as that is pre-tax.

So after tax...you might get 4.xx sen


QUOTE(toto4d @ Mar 9 2009, 10:10 PM)
Just curious, which fund would like to Dow Jones Index?
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QUOTE(toto4d @ Mar 10 2009, 08:19 AM)
As I know, the PM Index fund is link with the performance of KLCI.

So is there any PM Fund link to the Dow Jones?
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So far there is no funds in Public Mutual that directly track Dow Jones index
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post Mar 30 2009, 02:50 PM

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It is always going back to your goal....wat u wan...how can it be achieved.


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post Mar 31 2009, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 31 2009, 06:32 PM)
That portion isn't disclose yet. Perhaps it won't be disclose till its interim financial report.

Maybe it'll be investing in FBM30.
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Please do take note that...besides KLCI stocks...

The fund manager can also invest in other regional markets as well, if the local bourse stocks selection did not come up to 30 or they find there are better stocks available to invest in overseas market.

This fund will tend to b in the higher risk group...as they r juz confined to 30 stocks...
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QUOTE(10071985 @ Apr 8 2009, 11:07 AM)
hi sifus,
new in unit trust fund..
just want to know if i doing cost averaging method,
lets say i deposit rm100 monthly for equity fund,
what are the extra charges they will charge me?
thanks
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Bear in mind that the monthly rm100 is still subject to service charge.
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post Apr 12 2009, 03:48 PM

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Always leave some for emergency usage...not advisable to invest all your savings!

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post Apr 26 2009, 08:24 PM

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It is not too appropriate to compare UTrust directly with Share market itself.

UTrust are only investing partly into a particularly share market(s)...defnitely its performance cannot be directly compared to the index as a whole.

The best is to compared it to the index it closely resembles (wholly or by combination)
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PUBLIC MUTUAL DECLARATION OF DISTRIBUTION
FOR FINANCIAL YEAR-END OF 30TH APRIL 2009


Public Mutual are pleased to declare the gross distribution of the following funds for financial year-ending 30th April 2009:

1) Public Islamic Dividend Fund (PIDF) ~ 1.25 sen/unit
2) Public Islamic Asia Dividend Fund (PIADF) ~ 0.25 sen/unit
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QUOTE(yiivei @ May 10 2009, 08:26 AM)
bro, how do u get to invest by using EPF funds? is it for bumi only?
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EPF Investment for Unit Trust is not confined to bumi only...

Everyone also can apply to use their money in EPF to invest in Unit Trust.
But there will be limit on amount you can withdraw as well as other T&C

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