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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V4<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Nov 11 2007, 03:37 PM

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Check ur pm. Here is for S478 not cooler selling thread. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 11 2007, 05:12 PM

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Haha.. Nop! Just wanna change my tower cooling to some other type. As its kinda heavy. Dont like it. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 11 2007, 09:47 PM

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@herojack41

Doesnt means u PM then u got get the cooler right? Its on ur choice anyways.

@raymond5105

Yea. I agreed with Pengster. What im trying to say is the OC ability for Northwood and Prescott is different. Prescott is newer then Northwood and it can be push harder then Northwood.
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post Nov 11 2007, 10:08 PM

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@Ray

Haha.. Dont worry! Wont gonna blame u! Haha.. Maybe is us that misunderstood yr words. laugh.gif But anyways, the concept is always all same for S478. Just we are comparing the OC ability.

@Kabu

laugh.gif Just found something good ma.. Thats why change lo. My fren sell me the TT Big Typhoon with full accessories only RM80 eh. drool.gif If u, i believe u will grab it as well. Right? After get my fan adapter, then i will let go the Hyper6+. Was once a top end HSF thou.. Manage to keep my rigs stay 45'c on full load @ 3.76GHz.

P/s: TT BT only half a kg weight. If im not mistaken..

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post Nov 11 2007, 10:17 PM

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Lol.. RM80 for a high end HSF. Who wont wanna grab right? laugh.gif Im still waiting my friend to hand in his water cooling kit then he can pass me the TT BT!

Northwood hit 4Ghz? That gona a gem proc.. drool.gif But unfortunately, not all Northy can be push harder. sad.gif

@Kabu

Lol. Yup.. Din get booster but end up with a TT BT! Not bad lo.. By then about the casing u mentioned, if im not mistaken, Local here still got 1 le.. @ PCimage. LOL! That day i think i got saw it. Upper part got handle type.

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post Nov 11 2007, 10:44 PM

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@Sang

Haha.. Well well.. Luck is always with me. laugh.gif

@Ray

Hm.. Tried dy. Nothing much can expect actually. That game really need high processing power component. I guess if S478 wanna play it, gota set the setting to mid or low in order to get a good gameplay screen.
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post Nov 12 2007, 10:52 AM

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@Ray

New GC calling already.. laugh.gif Since u wanna stick to S478 then i agreed with Kabu's word. Get a better GC. 76GT and 79GS just lacking on RM100. If me, got the the $$, i will stick to 79GS instead. 5xx currently.. laugh.gif Ikat perut 3 month can get already.

@carlito

Welcome to the club. rclxms.gif By then, this the 1st time i heard bout 30cap proc below 3Ghz speed. Kinda interested here.. drool.gif Mind show some pic of ur 30cap 2.6C? icon_idea.gif

By then, between overclocking and PCI-E, i will choose OC instead. As most of the PCI-e did not use Intel chip. Hard to OC. rolleyes.gif

@Edmin

Wah.. Wanna torture ya rigs? laugh.gif CoD4? Haha.. Anyone here playing Clive Barker's Jericho?
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post Nov 12 2007, 11:00 AM

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Haha.. Some sort of "SPECIAL"? Lol.. I was traning my rigs with Clive Barker's Jericho! Not bad.. Still able to keep the smoothness of the game. laugh.gif
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post Nov 12 2007, 12:40 PM

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Haha.. Hit 4ekor then upgrade LCD or sound system better. New rigs not worth it la.. Oct core is comming soon. Current quad will be phased out again. Change something that can stand longer time better. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 12 2007, 01:35 PM

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@colinwong89

If ur using P4 EE then i believe CPU-Z will shown it as Gallatin core. Otherwise, if normal P4 proc with ended with C class will be shown as Northwood codename.

@blonely

So ur moving to dark side? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 12 2007, 03:35 PM

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doh.gif Since when this thread become audio device thread? tongue.gif Anyways, just stick with S478 la! No point for C2D.. Things keep updating. Will got outdated easily. See 478 still alive till now.. biggrin.gif

Hm.. If im not mistaken, the 79GS should be Galaxy brand. As i can grab it for 515 at my place. Ofcause direct from dealer. whistling.gif
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post Nov 12 2007, 07:42 PM

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Woa.. Just few hours away and thread got flooded again. laugh.gif 2.3 reply already.. I smell V5 is on the way.. drool.gif

@Ray

The 79GS that available at my place here is the 256mb version. But i think is sufficient already unless ur running it on hugh LCD such like 24' inch a above then u might consider getting the bigger ram size. As the performance as same. I ever plan to get a 79GS but end up with 68GT. Haha.. But im not too much on gaming, getting this monster card still a myth! laugh.gif

@Kabu

Hm.. I though i saw 85GT AGP version on this forum before? Or i see wrong.. hmm.gif

@blonely

Haha.. The price that u saw for Galaxy 79GS is killing. I get can it below RM520. icon_rolleyes.gif So how was ur new rigs hunting? Got any nice hardware on ur mind dy? Haha.. As if me, i will just grab a HT proc, pump the system ram. I guess that will save back alot rather then upgrade a full new system. Since ur not going deep into OC, normal value ram will feed ur daily usage. As for proc, 2.8E which come with HT function wont cost u more then 200. And since u're using 2x 512mb, i think it should be enough for ur daily usage. Otherwise, add in another 1 stick of 1GB. will do already. Total expense will just cost u below RM350. Well.. It still up to u. Ur choice. wink.gif

Edit: Typing error.

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post Nov 12 2007, 11:16 PM

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@Ray

Haha.. My 68GT still rocking eh! laugh.gif Dont plan to change it soon. biggrin.gif Btw, V5 boss i dont think will be me. As im not always stick to the thread. Hah! AGP 85GT? If im not mistaken, i think i saw in garage sales before. Well.. Not sure. Just IF im not mistaken.

@blonely

Well.. Sin u had decided. Than just go for it. As for ur rigs.. Roughly u will get around:

Proc RM100-150 (None HT proc cant fetch high price)
Mobo RM100-120 (Depend, i sold mine for RM110 last time)
GC RM100-120 (Depend on its 64bit or 128bit)

The most u can fetch for all ur hardware wont exceed RM450. U still have to top up for ur new system. whistling.gif X1650XT cost that exp? What brand are u going for? Since ur move to dark side, get a DX10 card instead. Dont waste ur $$.
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post Nov 13 2007, 09:35 AM

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@blonely

Haha.. Anyways, if me i think stick with S478 still a wise decision. C2D stuff still not so matured yet. Thing getting updated too often. P35 chip out not till half a year and X38 chasing at the back. Now, X38 appear in the market not till 3 months intel had announce that next year summer X48 will be available. No point to grab C2D now. Well.. Thats my 2cent.

Maybe u can spare around RM300-450 budget for urself to upgrade ya current system. Just grab a HT proc for better processing speed, a better mobo perhaps if u wanna OC. Then lastly a GC if u wanna gaming. By then way, why dont try to hunt for nvidia card? A 7600GT will do for decent gaming details. AFAIK, x1650xt not so powerful then 76GT. U may refer to the chart below:

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@herojack41

Did u try to find at garage sales? I though there are alot of seller bringing palit products? Yeah.. Good GC consume alot of voltage. So prepare a better PSU. biggrin.gif

@raymond5105

Yup! Atleast 68GT has 16pipepline & 6 vertex shader. I think is almost enough for decent gaming details. Ofcause, dont ask for full high detail. As for now, even a 8800GTS also cant support full detail in certain. Perhaps, need SLi to fully shown out the game details.

85GT? Yeap. More or less on par with 73GT la. I think those OC version 73GT still do better then 85GT. The different just their technology used. DX9.0c and DX10. But well.. No point to get it as well. Since DX10.1 is out soon. biggrin.gif More of less.. If the 85GT AGP is out, it think it still the same like the old 7 series card, using PCIe to AGP bridge. Which will make the card get hot faster.

@kabukiawie

Yeah. I heard before. Forgot where i saw the article already. But then, until now still no news. sad.gif HD2600XT is a good card. It fall between 86GT and 88GTS. Tight budget user, then go for 26XT for worth buying. And also, i think for AGP version of 2600, only available in 2600PRO. Thats what i can see from my dealer list. Well.. Its GeCube brand. I havent see any 2600XT AGP yet. doh.gif

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post Nov 13 2007, 09:46 AM

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Just get a call from my fren.. My TT BT will arrived either is today or 2mrw.. drool.gif

@herojack41
Well.. Put sometime on ur hunting. Be patient.. Nothing can be done in a click. Perhaps, open a thread says that u wanna buy which type of GC and state down ur offer. I think that will speed up ur hunting season.
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post Nov 13 2007, 10:28 AM

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Haha.. Well.. Just i learnt from my working place here actually. Hanged with those supplier then get know about all these thing. Just to share here. So everyone will know about the pro and con's of the product. Just dont grab it blindly. Otherwise will regret.

Hm.. The price for 2600PRO Agp is almost the same as 79GS. RM490-510. In between. But well.. It GeCube card. Not bad thou.. Atleast with my current OC system i could hunt down 13k 3Dmark03 with my 68GT. Not bad already. laugh.gif
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post Nov 13 2007, 10:53 AM

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@Ray

Yea.. Almost the same. But i think 79GS still leading in gaming due of the 256bits of memory interface. HD2600PRO only comes with 128bit. And its also depend on which game are u going to play on. Currently almost 85% of the game in the market still using DX9. So i think, 79GS still can last for another few years life. laugh.gif

@Sang

Yea. Raymond has explained about the 3Dmark thinggy. Its just like benchmark software for GC. Like what we did for CPU stress with Orthors or StressPrime. Same thing, just it been used for different hardware. Always, the higher score the better the performance. biggrin.gif

P/s: Its necessary to discuss abit about GC since we are going to use this old school to do gaming. laugh.gif What we want is, better performance but less bottlenecking.

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Yea. Agreed with Ray's word. Actually i was once a ATi user for quite sometime. But at the end, i still feel like nvidia did more better then ATi. biggrin.gif Well.. Not to insult or flame ATi user over this thread, just my 2cent about it.

@Edmin

Haha.. Well well.. Thanks for the correction! biggrin.gif

@Kabu

Yup.. Either is today or 2mrw. Still waiting. And i still gotta wait another 1 week before can let got the Hyper6 due to the fan adapter hasn't been made. shakehead.gif As for the Hyper6+, put on sales then will know who is interested already. laugh.gif

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@Sang

As for ur question.. Gotta wait the pro to explain to u. laugh.gif As im not so good in video thiggy. blush.gif

@Ray

Yup. X1950pro cost around 700 and X1950XT i around 950. biggrin.gif But i still prefer nvidia card. Personal reason ofcause. By then, as for ATi card, i think using 3rd party driver will make the thing better then the official type. As for my case, my previous 9800XT i got only 7k score in 3Dmark03 with official driver. But i gain another 1k point when change to OmegaDriver.

@herojack41

As i say, it gotta wait until i got my new cooler on hand 1st before i can take pitcure of it. Due im still using it now.
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post Nov 13 2007, 11:46 AM

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Haha.. Yeap! Way too expensive. Nearly 1k for 1 an AGP card. Dont think is worth to get. As for me, i think it should be the ATI driver problem yet not the hardware. laugh.gif

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