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post Oct 1 2007, 11:26 AM

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EGR - exhaust gas recirculator?

I only can find PCV hose on my engine..and that's where I gonna inject water into my engine, straight to the manifold bypassing the MAP sensor.
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post Jan 11 2008, 11:17 PM

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i heard if u use the vaccum point, u need to rev it high to fine tune it...... as it will suck very strong during high rev thus tuning it from that point is more accurate.
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post Mar 7 2008, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(kev da man @ Aug 30 2007, 04:48 PM)
show me a piston from a wira or savvy or kenari or myvi or AE111 which is ceramic coated. IIRC, only the K20A R something in the DC5 has ceramic coated pistons from the factory. even your average B16 does not have ceramic coated parts.
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how about aluminum..can aluminum piston rust...

Savvy's piston is made by Mahle...they only offer aluminum pistons for non-commercial vehicles...
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post Mar 20 2008, 11:10 PM

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according to my noobie form 5 theory in chemistry, aluminium rusts easier than iron. in fact when u put aluminium and iron together, the aluminium will rust in place of the iron. icon_rolleyes.gif


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but if u wan me apply more of my noobie chemistry theory, u can say that aluminium actually doesnt rust. rusting is the corrosion of iron .
for aluminium, its called corrosion/ oxidation.
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ryan_hustler
post Mar 25 2008, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Mar 20 2008, 11:10 PM)
according to my noobie form 5 theory in chemistry, aluminium rusts easier than iron. in fact when u put aluminium and iron together, the aluminium will rust in place of the iron. icon_rolleyes.gif
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but if u wan me apply more of my noobie chemistry theory, u can say that aluminium actually doesnt rust. rusting is the corrosion of iron .
for aluminium, its called corrosion/ oxidation.
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haha quite useless in this contex!

btw,when you compress n2o,ur actually feeding more o2 for combustion hence increasing power right?will h20 compress give you more o2 as well?
lolz,poor mans nitrous
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post May 2 2008, 03:01 AM

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i dont get it, why would a piston rust? our fuel is of hydrocarbon or short, carbon...

while IF there's rust on piston, it's oxide..

if not mistaken, carbon + oxide + heat = CO2+H20..meaning, even if there's oxide or laymen term rust, it'll still be removed..

dat's y we didnt hear ppl complain of inner part of exhaust system tubing gets rust..usually the rust sets in from outside..

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post May 2 2008, 09:40 AM

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if pistons can get rust from inside... imagine the by-product of fuel burning... water. sweat.gif
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post May 2 2008, 11:15 AM

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aluminum wont rust if its purely aluminum...
piston is something mix alu+iron+carbon etc..
how about valve..its iron

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post May 2 2008, 03:50 PM

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aluminum will rust. its just that the result is an oxide that is tougher than the original stuff itself. that layer of oxide will protect the unoxidized stuff underneath.
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post May 2 2008, 04:21 PM

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hmmm...how bout ultrasonic mist generator???
those mist producing things u see on those rolling crystal balls in shopping complexes....

put it in a bottle then put a flexible pvc hose on the top of the bottle connecting it to the intake near the butterfly valve. the suction shud suck the mist into the engine
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post May 2 2008, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(radioactive @ May 2 2008, 04:21 PM)
hmmm...how bout ultrasonic mist generator???
those mist producing things u see on those rolling crystal balls in shopping complexes....

put it in a bottle then put a flexible pvc hose on the top of the bottle connecting it to the intake near the butterfly valve. the suction shud suck the mist into the engine
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i thought of this idea before...


BTW... the main concern is NOT rust... your engine is operating about 150-200C at idle... and up to 450C at max rev... at that temp... water will immediately turn to steam and out of your engine... what you need to worry most is unburnt petrol that sit in the piston when you switched off your engine. this with the carbon deposits and also engine oil vapor will chemically react and become corrosive.

also what you SHOULD concern about water injection is the water droplet size... if it's too big. the water droplet might cool the piston TOO fast causing the piston top to pit. IF the water volume is too much, you might suffer piston lock as water cannot be compressed...

i've been running direct injection with mist nozzle for the past 3 years... no rust or whatsoever on my piston. i'm using about 3L of water to every 30L of petrol...
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post May 2 2008, 04:54 PM

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http://wolfstone.halloweenhost.com/Fog/fog...rasonicFog.html

someone willing to try it???
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post May 2 2008, 10:03 PM

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wah .. dead thread come alive again !!
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post May 3 2008, 03:32 PM

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is the site above for real?

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post May 4 2008, 04:24 AM

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QUOTE(radioactive @ May 2 2008, 04:21 PM)
hmmm...how bout ultrasonic mist generator???
those mist producing things u see on those rolling crystal balls in shopping complexes....

put it in a bottle then put a flexible pvc hose on the top of the bottle connecting it to the intake near the butterfly valve. the suction shud suck the mist into the engine
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engine suction power would not be strong enough ler...

QUOTE(radioactive @ May 2 2008, 04:54 PM)
jeng jeng jeng

http://kahchai1985.blogspot.com/2007/05/di...r-ignition.html
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post May 4 2008, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(kayef @ May 3 2008, 03:32 PM)
its an electrolysis system where u use the car's power source and u seperate water into its basic component. when hydrogen is burnt with oxygen to become water, it releases an amount of heat as energy


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post May 4 2008, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(radioactive @ May 4 2008, 07:10 AM)
its an electrolysis system where u use the car's power source and u seperate water into its basic component. when hydrogen is burnt with oxygen to become water, it releases an amount of heat as energy
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Tried it already, not much effect for my wira... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(-storm- @ May 4 2008, 01:37 PM)
Tried it already, not much effect for my wira...  hmm.gif
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ur electrolisis power not strong enough... u need to produce more hydrogen... icon_idea.gif
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post May 4 2008, 03:13 PM

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for the water injection system,its da same as sucking in water eg. from rain or puddles thru ur air filter and that is strongly not recomended,so why should letting water droplets or mist into ur engine do any good?
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QUOTE(ryan_hustler @ May 4 2008, 03:13 PM)
for the water injection system,its da same as sucking in water eg. from rain or puddles thru ur air filter and that is strongly not recomended,so why should letting water droplets or mist into ur engine do any good?
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Have you ever notice during rainy days your engine performs better? There you got your answer tongue.gif

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