vr vr little improvement... but in long term, i afraid might cause rust to my pistons and valve...
therefore, i removed it already...
DIY water injection, cleaner engine, better FC and power
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i diy-ed before...
vr vr little improvement... but in long term, i afraid might cause rust to my pistons and valve... therefore, i removed it already... |
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Aug 28 2007, 08:50 AM
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yes, there might be no difference at all... jz as a consolation to my diy effort, "got abit difference la"....
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Aug 28 2007, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 28 2007, 11:19 AM) Only inject water when th engine is under load - vacuum suction during idling is stronger. So better build one with pump and switch. Turning off the injection minutes before we turn off engine will ensure all excess water is gone. There should be some gains cos water is a good heat absorbtion. pump n switch would add up the cost adi... not willing to spend so much on something not assured to be reliable in long term... besides, racing cars and rally cars use their car for 1 year (or mayb less).... after that they completely strip it down for overhaulin or change new engine.... QUOTE(fstrader @ Aug 28 2007, 11:23 AM) have done this before on my carb engine and low end really improves, same method as catacumbs unker, my setup same with urs... but why mine tak jadi arr??... is it because ur car running high compression, which causes high engine temp... water vapour helps to absorb heat away and prevents detonation.... , but during idling a bit messy...ur idling will be freaky or maybe i use those aquarium stones are too big hence too much water masuk intake as for my car, everything stock standard... no detonation or any overheating problem, thats why not much difference.... correct me if wrong unker...  |
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Aug 29 2007, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE(fstrader @ Aug 29 2007, 12:47 AM) mine a bit gila on idling is becos the stone too big hence causing too much vapour but one things for sure, 1 trip to klang and come back kl..half a tank gone...and fc only improves a little, worth da try considering cheap cost in doing it DIY style yeap... i notice altering the stone position (high/low) will give u different amount of bubbles, which produce different vapour density... at the end, i got fedup fine tuning the right amount of water vapour.... hahahah...unker, u tried mixing with alcohol before??... so far i tried pure tap water only.... not much difference... |
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Aug 29 2007, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Aug 29 2007, 11:58 AM) is the extra power response worth it? in short term, yes.... in long term, dunno... u dont know what water will do to ur pistons and valves... u might fried them.... |
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Aug 29 2007, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Aug 29 2007, 02:49 PM) water just evaporate .. methanol gonna make a hole . i change my tb piping twice edi . means its damaging to the engine in long run la... |
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Aug 29 2007, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(kev da man @ Aug 29 2007, 05:38 PM) later open up engine see all the rusted pistons thats what i fear la... thats why i removed my setup adi.... |
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Aug 30 2007, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE(wevilli @ Aug 30 2007, 01:26 AM) wah... serious ? methanol is damage ? change 2 times for exhaust ? wow.... cant imagine... u using what piston which doesnt rust??... Added on August 30, 2007, 1:28 am by the way... just for your information... piston dont rust ok ! all iron cast will rust.... but it will take some time la... i've seen halfcut GSR piston start to rust.... |
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Aug 30 2007, 04:26 AM) not exhaust laa . TB as in throttle body piping . there's a hole just right below the injector nozzle after a few months. anyway, my pistons are forged piston . comes stock with the engine . still good for 20psi of boost  what car u driving??...as far as i remember, u got 2 superbikes.... |
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QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 23 2007, 03:30 AM) Added on September 23, 2007, 3:34 ambtw if its mist, it should evaporate b4 reaching the combustion rite? QUOTE(tuo850 @ Sep 23 2007, 03:41 AM) seen my bro in law doing but at that time i was thinking 'what the hell...' didnt know it is a proven technology. coz my bro-in-law use water bottle and some mini valve like the aquarium use one. idling is a problem to my bro system. idling will be sluggish. hmm if the system is properly controll, isiit good? maybe i should experiment with it as well.. thats what i did la... u need to find the correct volume of mist entering ur combustion chamber only makes some difference.... and the mist must be tiny enough... big droplets will make ur car sluggish... |
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Sep 27 2007, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(StormZ @ Sep 27 2007, 07:43 PM) Hey guys, got try calling his contact number??...Im interested in getting this water injection system...as seen on maxperformance.com but couldnt find a contact number and no reply to the email i sent them. Can any1 help me out??... it would be easier if i were to purchase it locally la...dont wanna the hassle to buy things from ebay and all...and already tried with the aquarium valve and using existing vacumm lines....not so good during idle... so, pls gimme some contacts...or if u have one for sale...would buy it.. thanks u alll!!  |
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Sep 28 2007, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Sep 27 2007, 11:14 PM) too expensive la...I saw some restaurants create mist using nozzles, perfect for this kind of application..not too wet...wonder what kind of pump they use. small water pump??...  |
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QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 30 2007, 10:03 PM) hmm like i say it situated at the throttle body, when idle there is very little vacum. like iswara, there is such vacum for advancing the timing. u mean the ERG thingy??... |
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QUOTE(radioactive @ May 2 2008, 04:21 PM) hmmm...how bout ultrasonic mist generator??? engine suction power would not be strong enough ler...those mist producing things u see on those rolling crystal balls in shopping complexes.... put it in a bottle then put a flexible pvc hose on the top of the bottle connecting it to the intake near the butterfly valve. the suction shud suck the mist into the engine QUOTE(radioactive @ May 2 2008, 04:54 PM) jeng jeng jenghttp://kahchai1985.blogspot.com/2007/05/di...r-ignition.html |
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QUOTE(-storm- @ May 4 2008, 01:37 PM) Tried it already, not much effect for my wira... ur electrolisis power not strong enough... u need to produce more hydrogen...  |
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QUOTE(-storm- @ May 4 2008, 03:17 PM) Have you ever notice during rainy days your engine performs better? There you got your answer  my gawd... QUOTE(-storm- @ May 4 2008, 05:30 PM) I also dono but i know that the water injection provides higher octane its a proven technology no arguments about that. water hard to ignite mah... thats why provides a higher octane environment lor....  |
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QUOTE(ryan_hustler @ May 4 2008, 10:05 PM) y la cata water injection correct la.. but he said raining time mist fly into the carb/throttlebody... that one kanasai abit... ?? proven technology mah..new M5 all using water injection..  |
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QUOTE(ryan_hustler @ May 6 2008, 06:47 PM) wow you ARE good!i feel so inferior to your superior intellect! PLEASE teach me sifuu damn sacarstic sial...  |
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QUOTE(-storm- @ May 6 2008, 08:32 PM) Argue with this kind of people is a waste of time non constructive at all, full of air no substance, Rather go do my thesis! Oh ya btw catacomb do you know the saga blm using which type of plugs? Wanna order from u! new saga using campro loh... my plugs got ppl claim campro engine cannot use... because kanasai punya ecu detect it as faulty plug and hence, shut down engine... |
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May 6 2008, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(-storm- @ May 6 2008, 11:22 PM) Wa so kanasai ar the ecu? I not sure bout the saga blm because this car really rojak, the campro also a bit different from gen2 one not using spark cable anymore all use direct coil and the manifold is made of plastic already and the rotary disk use savy one not gen2 =.= wtf??... manifold made of plastic??... melt la... |
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