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post Mar 5 2021, 08:58 PM, updated 5y ago

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Is it true?

IBM Cyberjaya closed shop already?

AFAIK, that company has been in Cyberjaya for quite some time, since 2004 if i am not mistaken.

Got a few of my friends working there also.

Feel hesitant if want to ask them, afraid they are affected also. sad.gif

/k can confirm this news? Thanks.

Stay strong to those who are affected! console.gif
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post Mar 5 2021, 09:06 PM

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Heard the same.
IBM and T-Systems
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post Mar 5 2021, 09:06 PM

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Found this..


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post Mar 5 2021, 09:08 PM

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Never mention the move to bandar utama for those not impacted
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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Mar 5 2021, 09:06 PM)
Found this..


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Oh my.

So this new is true then.

So many affected in this trying times. sad.gif

But i wonder what went wrong?
IBM makes computer & chips ya? What’s the nature of their business really?
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That is a lot of people going out of work soon.

Luckily got i-sinar to help.
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post Mar 5 2021, 09:11 PM

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They're just like some local IT service provider. My former company uses them as IT helpdesk call centre. Full of dimwits who can't solve any computer issues.
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so how now cyber town?

taco bell also not open yet
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Where do the companies relocate? Philippines or India?
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OMG, their one utama base how?
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what about IT services companies like Dell and others in cyberjaya?
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Abah and his fm make the right direction. We will be the mnc. Starting with silterra in cyberjaya. We will be a foundry 10x than the defunct chartered semicon. Maybe should renamed as msmc.
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its okay..nx door neibor hdpm can takeover
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QUOTE(StorMx @ Mar 5 2021, 09:08 PM)
Never mention the move to bandar utama for those not impacted
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I think they moved almost half of their workforce to Cyberjaya since they ran out of space in the main office in Bandar Utama.

They've gradually moved out of selling hardware as more companies start to migrate to cloud and have been focusing on business consulting.

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 08:58 PM)
Is it true?

IBM Cyberjaya closed shop already?

AFAIK, that company has been in Cyberjaya for quite some time, since 2004 if i am not mistaken.

Got a few of my friends working there also.

Feel hesitant if want to ask them, afraid they are affected also.  sad.gif

/k can confirm this news? Thanks.

Stay strong to those who are affected!  console.gif
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Many kena vss.
Even from last year around August, some accounts were already semi closed.
Employees some already no work since last year
But good thing they still get salary but Dec last year announce that they have 2 months to look for new job.


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post Mar 5 2021, 09:28 PM

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Yes my bro in law confirmed it. It was division that related to gov project that only continue. Others are moving to india coz cheaper rate.

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this gomen, aparanciao also close down
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post Mar 5 2021, 09:33 PM

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Immediately i saw got similar position openings in other related companies.

Hope these guys can grab these opportunities soon.
Of course can’t demand to get similar pay though.
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QUOTE(judas @ Mar 5 2021, 09:31 PM)
this gomen, aparanciao also close down
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good, the less MNC around the better. less competition to local companies. good riddance!
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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Mar 5 2021, 09:28 PM)
Yes my bro in law confirmed it. It was division that related to gov project that only continue. Others are moving to india coz cheaper rate.
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why?klang valley and cyberjaya people high cost and low productivity ?
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When the MDEC Chairman is a political appointee become like this lar...

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Change of business nature i think, they focusing on cloud service nowadays after acquire softlayer
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QUOTE(bristlebb @ Mar 5 2021, 09:15 PM)
what about IT services companies like Dell and others in cyberjaya?
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DXC formerly hp enterprise not doing well

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post Mar 5 2021, 09:46 PM

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shell gone, t system gone, dxc shrink, hsbc also downsizing workforce here.. haih...

our pay isn't really that high to be honest but those perks and incentive are no longer attractive in our country.

pffttt talk about getting bigger names in our country.. they better start doing something before tech mahendra, dell, dhl, lazada call center etc all move out.
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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Mar 5 2021, 09:06 PM)
Found this..


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QUOTE(bristlebb @ Mar 5 2021, 09:15 PM)
what about IT services companies like Dell and others in cyberjaya?
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Dell is hiring again. They freeze during mco 1.0
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 5 2021, 09:12 PM)
so how now cyber town?

taco bell also not open yet
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Next week going check my condo. See what's new there 😂
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most of our neighbours are enjoying new mnc setups

wake up or we will never recover from this downward spiral
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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 5 2021, 09:12 PM)
Where do the companies relocate? Philippines or India?
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Nearby only, India

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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Mar 5 2021, 09:28 PM)
Yes my bro in law confirmed it. It was division that related to gov project that only continue. Others are moving to india coz cheaper rate.
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So that building goina empty liao?
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Mar 5 2021, 09:35 PM)
why?klang valley and cyberjaya people high cost and low productivity ?
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Willing to accept at lower cost
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 09:09 PM)
Oh my.

So this new is true then.

So many affected in this trying times.  sad.gif

But i wonder what went wrong?
IBM makes computer & chips ya? What’s the nature of their business really?
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Overprice slow-like-shit java based solution/service/app
but can say big player in mainframe.
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Mar 5 2021, 09:16 PM)
Abah and his fm make the right direction. We will be the mnc. Starting with silterra in cyberjaya. We will be  a foundry 10x than the defunct chartered semicon.  Maybe should renamed as msmc.
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Chartered semicon in sg still exist meh?
I thought bungkus edi?
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 5 2021, 09:46 PM)
shell gone, t system gone, dxc shrink, hsbc also downsizing workforce here.. haih...

our pay isn't really that high to be honest but those perks and incentive are no longer attractive in our country.

pffttt talk about getting bigger names in our country.. they better start doing something before tech mahendra, dell, dhl, lazada call center etc all move out.
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Its not all about incentives, many hidden cost here. That even though Singapore looks expensive but overall operations cost is far cheaper, and stable in long run.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 09:09 PM)
Oh my.

So this new is true then.

So many affected in this trying times.  sad.gif

But i wonder what went wrong?
IBM makes computer & chips ya? What’s the nature of their business really?
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They sold their computer business to Lenovo long ago. I think they still sell their servers/mainframes. It's mostly IT services now, like software, cloud solutions, outsourcing services and their famous IBM Watson. IBM in Cyberjaya is sort of dying since few years ago anyway. Not fully occupied one. Manyak empty spaces
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Mar 5 2021, 09:54 PM)
So that building goina empty liao?
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I bet so. Most it team wfh since last year. But this month ibm just announced that they are moving out.

I wonder whether this is due pandemic or what
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 5 2021, 09:33 PM)
good, the less MNC around the better. less competition to local companies. good riddance!
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are u dumb? this is the most ridiculous plotek statement ever.
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tutup jer lar.. cyberjaya not for humans live one
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QUOTE(kir @ Mar 5 2021, 09:55 PM)
Overprice slow-like-shit java based solution/service/app
but can say big player in mainframe.
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No wonder my current employer switched out from their services, it was damn slow and shit when it was under IBM.
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IBM after become big. Always go wrong and make wrong decision in direction and roadmap

When Microsoft evolving Desktop OS and individual workstation.
They slow in action

Then when every one making laptop, they are slow in laptop again.

Remember those days were using IBM VisualAge, IBM Websphere, MQ series , all expensive stuff.

Then when people do cloud, they are slow again..

How many times you want to slow
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I remember last time got issue the IBM engineer ignore our email and calls and take their sweet time to solve sev1 issue.

After that incident we changed vendor and no more IBM products.
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LOL people rly condemn govt even though they do ntg wrong

India are dirt cheap, hard to compete lah. Same experience level RM4k in here can get RM2k in India how??

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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Mar 5 2021, 09:58 PM)
I bet so. Most it team wfh since last year. But this month ibm just announced that they are moving out.

I wonder whether this is due pandemic or what
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Then GG Liao.. shared services tutup and moving out to cheaper country. Etc India
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QUOTE(judas @ Mar 5 2021, 09:59 PM)
are u dumb? this is the most ridiculous plotek statement ever.
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Nope, we should focus on religious studies and dunia akhirat. Life is a dream, not important. We need to follow Iran model.

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QUOTE(bobbie1841 @ Mar 5 2021, 10:12 PM)
I agree fully. why need produce computer? pencil and paper good enough what why go unnecessarily complicate things? should start a national pencil and paper manufacturing mnc
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no need, go oral better. that's why we have tahfiz/religious schools to memorise holy teachings. books are useless, except for religious ones.

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 5 2021, 10:14 PM)
no need, go oral better. that's why we have tahfiz/religious schools to memorise holy teachings. books are useless, except for religious ones.
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actually true also. should ban all production of books unless its holy book. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 08:58 PM)
Is it true?

IBM Cyberjaya closed shop already?

AFAIK, that company has been in Cyberjaya for quite some time, since 2004 if i am not mistaken.

Got a few of my friends working there also.

Feel hesitant if want to ask them, afraid they are affected also.  sad.gif

/k can confirm this news? Thanks.

Stay strong to those who are affected!  console.gif
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Nothing official don't spread fake news

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 5 2021, 10:11 PM)
Nope, we should focus on religious studies and dunia akhirat. Life is a dream, not important. We need to follow Iran model.
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Ibm getting ass raped left and right. They still stick to thier traditional mindset. Everyone moving to cloud..they still in thier as400 era. User base shrinking as more and more people modernize thier it infrastructure.


Whatever happen to watson. I don't see much of it implemented in area of ai
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 5 2021, 10:11 PM)
Nope, we should focus on religious studies and dunia akhirat. Life is a dream, not important. We need to follow Iran model.
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iran is not that backwards la.
in fact they quite modern and liberal
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vendor aku pun ramai kena buang...mnc from US...mostly buang operation...tinggai finance, customer account and sales jer...even country manager kena ex...kena merge dgn other asean country...owaii gaji 100k sudah hilang liaooo
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 09:09 PM)
Oh my.

So this new is true then.

So many affected in this trying times.  sad.gif

But i wonder what went wrong?
IBM makes computer & chips ya? What’s the nature of their business really?
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Servers Z,I,P, X series, software, lotus notes, POS, ATM, PC and laptop. IBM cyber is call centre mainly for ASEAN region providing 24*7 or 9*5. Most of the staff on contract like intel, amd & most US companies, subbed to employment agencies. Many jilat US think US talks abour rights and very good but in reality, many of their companies prefer contract based, can easily dispose workers and close without paying compensation.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 09:09 PM)
Oh my.

So this new is true then.

So many affected in this trying times.  sad.gif

But i wonder what went wrong?
IBM makes computer & chips ya? What’s the nature of their business really?
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Share services

Other companies engage IBM to run their HR, finance, account, IT.... Departments

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another PN failure
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post Mar 5 2021, 10:41 PM

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cyber office is mainly technical support, and customer service, since IBM stopped selling hardwares, so no need so many ppl support (read: cutting ppl, many ppl kena VSS)
they are consolidating to new offices, nowadays everyone wfh, no longer need office spaces
also, IBM GTS services (largest brand) is going to spin-off to newco, so even less support is needed for IBM
source: IBMer internal news
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QUOTE(khaimitoban @ Mar 5 2021, 10:27 PM)
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what failure? the Grand Strategy of focusing on dunia akhirat and religious studies is working well. in fact, we should accelerate this and kick all MNCs out. Then we can better nurture our GLCs.
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most of gov infra are starting moving away from IBM. i already saw this coming. China company are slowly eating the pie.
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Mar 5 2021, 09:53 PM)
most of our neighbours are enjoying new mnc setups

wake up or we will never recover from this downward spiral
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bodoh statement. PN Gomen is focusing on Blue Ocean strategy. No point chasing for new MNC setups. We focus on religious studies and moral studies. No point on focusing on material wealth. Spiritual wealth is superior.
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For all the "jaya" suffix, it sure doesn't live up to its name.
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QUOTE(li_hat @ Mar 5 2021, 10:43 PM)
most of gov infra are starting moving away from IBM. i already saw this coming. China company are slowly eating the pie.
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Which IT sectors nao hot?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 5 2021, 10:23 PM)
Servers Z,I,P, X series, software, lotus notes, POS, ATM, PC and laptop. IBM cyber is call centre mainly for ASEAN region providing 24*7 or 9*5. Most of the staff on contract like intel, amd & most US companies, subbed to employment agencies. Many jilat US think US talks abour rights and very good but in reality, many of their companies prefer contract based, can easily dispose workers and close without paying compensation.
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server I, X series, pc, laptop sold to lenovo
lotus notes sold to HCL
POS ATM stopped long time ago

since ~4yrs ago IBM already reducing contract worker, hired those essential as permanent
but still, many kena sold to Lenovo ~2yrs back, along with some of the business
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Mar 5 2021, 10:02 PM)
Then GG Liao.. shared services tutup and moving out to cheaper country. Etc India
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Mine closing malaysia branch also. Putting all the headcounts in philippines instead. Sad
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 08:58 PM)
Is it true?

IBM Cyberjaya closed shop already?

AFAIK, that company has been in Cyberjaya for quite some time, since 2004 if i am not mistaken.

Got a few of my friends working there also.

Feel hesitant if want to ask them, afraid they are affected also.  sad.gif

/k can confirm this news? Thanks.

Stay strong to those who are affected!  console.gif
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Yea.. My friend work there confirmed it.
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 5 2021, 10:43 PM)
what failure? the Grand Strategy of focusing on dunia akhirat and religious studies is working well. in fact, we should accelerate this and kick all MNCs out. Then we can better nurture our GLCs.
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You really got a beef with that Religion of Peace eh? laugh.gif

Come on dude. Give proper reasoning la.
Kesian those affected workers.

Or do you wish yourself to be part of them too? whistling.gif


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QUOTE(red4900 @ Mar 5 2021, 10:02 PM)
LOL people rly condemn govt even though they do ntg wrong

India are dirt cheap, hard to compete lah. Same experience level RM4k in here can get RM2k in India how??
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The big tech companies in Bangalore all have higher pay than msia...

But it's true they have more experience
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 08:58 PM)
Is it true?

IBM Cyberjaya closed shop already?

AFAIK, that company has been in Cyberjaya for quite some time, since 2004 if i am not mistaken.

Got a few of my friends working there also.

Feel hesitant if want to ask them, afraid they are affected also.  sad.gif

/k can confirm this news? Thanks.

Stay strong to those who are affected!  console.gif
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confirmed.
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QUOTE(syahmie8 @ Mar 5 2021, 10:55 PM)
Yea.. My friend work there confirmed it.
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Pity them.

Hope they can find better opportunities elsewhere.

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I don’t mind we all tok kok sing song bash here there in /k biasa la kan?

But when it comes to ones’ rice bowl, we better respect them & pray for the best.

Because we don’t know when will our time is up.

Let’s support those who are affected and possible give potential “lubangs/opportunities” to them.

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 10:58 PM)
You really got a beef with that Religion of Peace eh?  laugh.gif 

Come on dude. Give proper reasoning la.
Kesian those affected workers.

Or do you wish yourself to be part of them too?  whistling.gif
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Besides, without hardship - how to reach the Promised Land?
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Years ago went to interview there. Whole interview process was done by bunch of young staffs. Those staffs simply come in and go and chit chating with each other in the same room. Wtf the most unprofessional interview ever for me. Waste my time, they don't look so interested to hire people.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 5 2021, 10:53 PM)
Mine closing malaysia branch also. Putting all the headcounts in philippines instead. Sad
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 11:01 PM)
I don’t mind we all tok kok sing song bash here there in /k biasa la kan?

But when it comes to ones’ rice bowl, we better respect them & pray for the best.

Because we don’t know when will our time is up.

Let’s support those who are affected and possible give potential “lubangs/opportunities” to them.

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Nope. It's a dog eat dog world in capitalism. Either shape up or ship out. That's why we need to kick out Western Capitalism and all the MNCs. All these MNCs are bloodsuckers and never pay tax also due to incentives. Never properly transfer technology to Malaysians also. Good riddance to MNCs.

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But i wonder what went wrong?
IBM makes computer & chips ya? What’s the nature of their business really?
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IBM diverted from making solely making pc and cpu long time already.

now macam2 ada...ibm switch vm ips ids fw idm ipam blah2..


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What you expect la from the mgmt when they are run by amoi auntie alike who freely rant racist slant in fb and escape unscathed. Donno pity them or not, the local mgmt here nit aggresive pun. I think most higher ngmt up kinda expect and look forward for fat compensation and stock option. Anak pun dah besar jadi doktor and lawyer. Pity small fry there only.

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 11:01 PM)
I don’t mind we all tok kok sing song bash here there in /k biasa la kan?

But when it comes to ones’ rice bowl, we better respect them & pray for the best.

Because we don’t know when will our time is up.

Let’s support those who are affected and possible give potential “lubangs/opportunities” to them.

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This

PS i suspect one semi prominent ktard that used to post here is T-Systems.

I heard about the T-systems ramping down last year actually. And when that ktard stopped posting around that time it happened suspicion kinda confirmed

Hope he's doing ok
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QUOTE(red4900 @ Mar 5 2021, 10:02 PM)
LOL people rly condemn govt even though they do ntg wrong

India are dirt cheap, hard to compete lah. Same experience level RM4k in here can get RM2k in India how??
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Depends.

Usually its a cycle. Move to india..kena kelentong there 5-6 years then realise sh8t not working. Move to another country back...then finally will come back msia.

India is cheap..so does their democracy in their workstyle too.
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 5 2021, 11:05 PM)
Nope. It's a dog eat dog world in capitalism. Either shape up or ship out. That's why we need to kick out Western Capitalism and all the MNCs. All these MNCs are bloodsuckers and never pay tax also due to incentives. Never properly transfer technology to Malaysians also. Good riddance to MNCs.
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The word not transfer technology is misleading. It can be self initiative, and also drive from local mgmt. But if the local mgmt more into gold investment, buy property, talk where to go trip next year, then diff story la. Local ppl not hungry like the koreans.

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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Mar 5 2021, 11:11 PM)
What you expect la from the mgmt when they are run by amoi auntie alike who freely rant racist slant in fb and escape unscathed. Donno pity them or not, the local mgmt here nit aggresive pun. I think most higher ngmt up kinda expect and look forward for fat compensation and stock option. Anak pun dah besar jadi doktor and lawyer. Pity small fry there only.
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Why pity the small fry? Padan muka want to work for Western MNC. Should work for GLC or Gomen... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 5 2021, 11:14 PM)
Why pity the small fry? Padan muka want to work for Western MNC. Should work for GLC or Gomen...  whistling.gif
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Can you stop with all your stupid posts? Enough
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QUOTE(party @ Mar 5 2021, 11:12 PM)
Depends.

Usually its a cycle. Move to india..kena kelentong there 5-6 years then realise sh8t not working. Move to another country back...then finally will come back msia.

India is cheap..so does their democracy in their workstyle too.
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India is not cheap. Especially bengaluru. Its it hub there, demand rm 20k per month.
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Mar 5 2021, 11:15 PM)
India is not cheap. Especially bengaluru. Its it hub there, demand rm 20k per month.
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There are other places also n its cheap.

Even bengaluru or gurgaon itself the mid high is not cheap but the low compare here is really cheap.
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Mar 5 2021, 11:15 PM)
India is not cheap. Especially bengaluru. Its it hub there, demand rm 20k per month.
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I hear shell it also making a return back to malaysia after transfer to Banglore few year ago. Guess all that ok will be done ok one second .....made them tired

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 5 2021, 11:14 PM)
Why pity the small fry? Padan muka want to work for Western MNC. Should work for GLC or Gomen...  whistling.gif
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If you run by the local mgmt director, vp level. ... The likes like amoi auntie who got free time to post fb racist rant abd get away with it.. real mgmt who always think of competition where got time do all this. Pity small fry gmhave these mgmt. Ganti rugi pun sikit, ada anak di taska pula. Whereas those fat directors join 10,20 yrs plus, gaji pun besar, stock option pjn banyak dan anak dah besar jadi lawyer, doctor. And also maby condo sapu wbeb property is dirt cheap at their time...
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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 5 2021, 11:15 PM)
Can you stop with all your stupid posts? Enough
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Highly suggest u to ignore him.

Too bad cant report him since its k so he can spout those nonsense
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QUOTE(jmas @ Mar 5 2021, 10:52 PM)
server I, X series, pc, laptop sold to lenovo
lotus notes sold to HCL
POS ATM stopped long time ago

since ~4yrs ago IBM already reducing contract worker, hired those essential as permanent
but still, many kena sold to Lenovo ~2yrs back, along with some of the business
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That explains why they can't survive coz less companies use mainframe z series nowadays. Sounds like IBM got robbed by Lenovo and left with nothing. Hope Intel got robbed by PRC next then we'll get to buy cheap intel CPU & Nvidia (bought by intel) GPU.
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QUOTE(party @ Mar 5 2021, 11:18 PM)
There are other places also n its cheap.

Even bengaluru or gurgaon itself the mid high is not cheap but the low compare here is really cheap.
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Bengaluru memang overhyped in my opinion. But their competitiveness memang astonishingr, although mostly just showy. If to blame, blame those fat oblivious uncle auntie too comfort with their lifestyle. They alr3ady give competition anyway, talk bout trip abd migrate pula...
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Mar 5 2021, 11:18 PM)
I hear shell it also making a return back to malaysia after transfer to Banglore few year ago. Guess all that ok will be done ok one second .....made them tired
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Ok can do.
Ok nx week implement. Ok delay abit. Ok ok ok...end up the system is complicated n sh8tty. But their way of talkin really good can bewitched lots of ppl.

Usually only wake up after severe losses
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Mar 5 2021, 11:21 PM)
Bengaluru memang overhyped in my opinion. But their competitiveness memang astonishingr, although mostly just showy. If to blame, blame those fat oblivious uncle auntie too comfort with their lifestyle. They alr3ady give competition anyway, talk bout trip abd migrate pula...
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If u throw a stone at youngster there..8 out of 10 is double degree or master but really agree wif u is just showy only.

Haiz..no choice. Lifestyle comfortable liao then sure no competition spirit
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QUOTE(thunderloh @ Mar 5 2021, 09:11 PM)
That is a lot of people going out of work soon.

Luckily got i-sinar to help.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 5 2021, 11:20 PM)
That explains why they can't survive coz less companies use mainframe z series nowadays. Sounds like IBM got robbed by Lenovo and left with nothing. Hope Intel got robbed by PRC next then we'll get to buy cheap intel CPU & Nvidia (bought by intel) GPU.
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Nope.. banking still use mainframe a lot.
To cut cost, they just move from z/os to z/linux.

still IBM money maker..
1 Mainframe sold let the seller off for 1yrs holiday..
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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 5 2021, 11:15 PM)
Can you stop with all your stupid posts? Enough
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Nope, freedom of speech. Besides, I'm sure the majority of Malaysians would prefer western MNCs to get out.
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Brace for impact

Salary stagnanted since 2000, goods and services increase in prices, unstable political scene and now this covid-19

This is just the beginning
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I've seen more proliants than any of ibm server stuff for the past 4-5 years
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QUOTE(party @ Mar 5 2021, 11:23 PM)
If u throw a stone at youngster there..8 out of 10 is double degree or master but really agree wif u is just showy only.

Haiz..no choice. Lifestyle comfortable liao then sure no competition spirit
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Even job and assignment robbed by this indians, uncle auntie relek saje, compliant abd smiling. Pity small fry fresh from univ full of fire spirit pun kena doused by these ppl. And the scary is these high mgmt ppl protect satu sama lain, buddy buddy.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 5 2021, 11:20 PM)
That explains why they can't survive coz less companies use mainframe z series nowadays. Sounds like IBM got robbed by Lenovo and left with nothing. Hope Intel got robbed by PRC next then we'll get to buy cheap intel CPU & Nvidia (bought by intel) GPU.
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its IBM own bet, they gamble on future of business being clouds and services rather than hardware
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QUOTE(darkness_kering @ Mar 5 2021, 11:27 PM)
Nope.. banking still use mainframe a lot.
To cut cost, they just move from z/os to z/linux.

still IBM money maker..
1 Mainframe sold let the seller off for 1yrs holiday..
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Not sure about current price. In late 90's AS400 was about rm500k, mainframe over Rm1million. Today mainframe Z series berapa?
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IBM is declining anyway. Probably move more to cost cutting measures.

Can get better skilled labour for cheaper price elsewhere.
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QUOTE(wertty @ Mar 5 2021, 11:28 PM)
Brace for impact

Salary stagnanted since 2000, goods and services increase in prices, unstable political scene and now this covid-19

This is just the beginning
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Good, we need to focus on morality and spirituality. All these materialistic pursuit is useless. I'm sure the Govt will provide.
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And the best part these uncle auntie have time to luff at fb and their staff poor english. If their staff english bad not at uk level, send for class la. Kan mereka tu mnc. My ex mnc compeni pun send some to english class and those staff persevere and shine with their core job skill, not english.
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QUOTE(jmas @ Mar 5 2021, 11:30 PM)
its IBM own bet, they gamble on future of business being clouds and services rather than hardware
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Clouds store vital info in overseas, undersea cable issue won't get access anymore. Hackers or internal espionage would steal those info. During MCO last year, whole world experience slow access including banks. They want to shift everything to US on virtual?
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Mar 5 2021, 11:33 PM)
And the best part these uncle auntie have time to luff at fb and their staff poor  english. If their staff english bad not at uk level, send for class la. Kan mereka tu mnc. My ex mnc compeni pun send some to english class and those staff persevere and shine with their core job skill, not english.
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Just kick out all MNCs. Only local SME and GLCs left. No need English competency anymore. If customer and supplier cannot speak BM, no need to deal with them.

In fact, LYN forum should also be given ultimatum... why use English? Give deadline, switch default language to BM within next 3 years. Only specific forum to use English.

We in Malaysia. Patut guna Bahasa Melayu. LYN forum tak patriotik langsung.

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QUOTE(StorMx @ Mar 5 2021, 09:08 PM)
Never mention the move to bandar utama for those not impacted
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I have 1 ex colleague that working there.
Not sure affected or not
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When is bangsar south turn?
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QUOTE(bsa12 @ Mar 5 2021, 09:56 PM)
Its not all about incentives, many hidden cost here. That even though Singapore looks expensive but overall operations cost is far cheaper, and stable in long run.
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yes indeed. that's just sad. yet the guy is preaching to get investors like amazon, google etc to be in.. that's just a LOL.
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When is bangsar south turn?
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 5 2021, 10:11 PM)
Nope, we should focus on religious studies and dunia akhirat. Life is a dream, not important. We need to follow Iran model.
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 5 2021, 09:33 PM)
good, the less MNC around the better. less competition to local companies. good riddance!
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At least my mnc comp grow stronger in this pandamic time. My comp doing customer home product and my part on IT healthcare system going stronger over the years due to constant demand. These days if want to join mnc comp need to get those who always in needs and stable.
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QUOTE(party @ Mar 5 2021, 11:18 PM)
There are other places also n its cheap.

Even bengaluru or gurgaon itself the mid high is not cheap but the low compare here is really cheap.
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The pro all left India, those remaining in India is brain drain

QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Mar 5 2021, 11:18 PM)
I hear shell it also making a return back to malaysia after transfer to Banglore few year ago. Guess all that ok will be done ok one second .....made them tired
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Vomit blood dealing with them? On average, I felt like Malaysian is smarter than Pinoy and Pinoy is smarter than Indian.

Those really smart one already left their country and some in Malaysia became boss here.

From my observation after working for a decade in mnc.
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Mar 5 2021, 11:18 PM)
I hear shell it also making a return back to malaysia after transfer to Banglore few year ago. Guess all that ok will be done ok one second .....made them tired
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biar betik?

QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Mar 5 2021, 11:28 PM)
I've seen more proliants than any of ibm server stuff for the past 4-5 years
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HPE is doing quite well in DC.

IBM AIX proprietary not much ppl favor for now........as "open source"
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 6 2021, 03:12 AM)
biar betik?
HPE is doing quite well in DC.

IBM AIX proprietary not much ppl favor for now........as "open source"
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Aix not cloud friendly. Most shifting to rhel
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Malaysia menmang no hope already, a lot of companies pop up in Singapore
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Meanwhile they will recruit our best talents to work there earning 3x. We just continue to go down hill.
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Luckily, My company is doing well in bangsar south
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What kind of product
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Not sure about current price. In late 90's AS400 was about rm500k, mainframe over Rm1million. Today mainframe Z series berapa?
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With emperor II, i think close to 4 million...HW alone
Hasnt include the sw licensing + services
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Found this..


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saw this on thursday.

i think its only 1 of its department is moving out la. if ibm totally leave msia it will be all over headlines instead a random guy telling us in fb.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 09:09 PM)
Oh my.

So this new is true then.

So many affected in this trying times.  sad.gif

But i wonder what went wrong?
IBM makes computer & chips ya? What’s the nature of their business really?
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ibm cyberjaya = IT support & consulting
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Mar 5 2021, 09:54 PM)
Nearby only, India
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yehaaa..
Bangalore or Pune?
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HP maybe the next one? Alot of false promises and mismanagement shit going on in there.
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How bout the promise of quantum computer by 2023...

IBM Quantum Supremacy.


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post Mar 6 2021, 09:09 AM

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how about local engineers? they are not effected rite?
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 6 2021, 09:09 AM)
how about local engineers? they are not effected rite?
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of course they are lol
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Mar 6 2021, 09:16 AM)
of course they are lol
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i mean those who go on-site punya supporting customer.
not those sit at office taking calls
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post Mar 6 2021, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 6 2021, 09:32 AM)
i mean those who go on-site punya supporting customer.
not those sit at office taking calls
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of course they're too. counting days
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QUOTE(dead_psycho @ Mar 6 2021, 09:01 AM)
HP maybe the next one? Alot of false promises and mismanagement shit going on in there.
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hp whut at cyberjaya? u mean dxc?
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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Mar 5 2021, 09:06 PM)
Found this..


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damn. this country already so many people jobless since mco 1.0 and now suddenly add another 3000 people to the stats

sad to see MY progressing backwards rapidly under backdoor govt abah cow
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QUOTE(evilsmile @ Mar 6 2021, 09:36 AM)
damn. this country already so many people jobless since mco 1.0 and now suddenly add another 3000 people to the stats

sad to see MY progressing backwards rapidly under backdoor govt abah cow
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well, news for u. more announcement coming towards the end of the year of the same nature
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Mar 6 2021, 10:10 AM)
well, news for u. more announcement coming towards the end of the year of the same nature
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So which industries you reckon that could stood the test of time?


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post Mar 6 2021, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 6 2021, 10:15 AM)
So which industries you reckon that could stood the test of time?
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none. change is constant. u pivot and change or u cease to exist.

even if u are selling coffin (everyone dies right) but if the culture prefer to cremate, u still have to pivot your business accordingly

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Malaysiaaaa should not concern so much whether t system or ibm closed...by default Malaysiaaaa bumi are capable and wealth off...many investor are que up to open business here....


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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 6 2021, 09:32 AM)
i mean those who go on-site punya supporting customer.
not those sit at office taking calls
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GTS and Consulting team based in BU
Cyerberjaya only IT support & managed services (project based)
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post Mar 6 2021, 10:20 AM

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/mala...f-well-executed
IBM not a part of this ?
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post Mar 6 2021, 10:37 AM

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post Mar 6 2021, 10:40 AM

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I tot ibm more software centric now, make sense la the move
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QUOTE(DaemonLover @ Mar 6 2021, 10:37 AM)
Cyberjaya gonna b a ghost town
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Better than a "foreginer driving macam cibaaai" town.
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QUOTE(huislaw @ Mar 6 2021, 10:20 AM)
The news is about 5G infrastructure

Since when IBM involved in telecommunication industry

If you talking about MyDigital, lots of it are just bollocks with hype wordings. not even the people in the industry understand exactly what govt intends to do.

the only 2 concrete things that came out from that announcement was:
- govt gonna be in charge of building 5G infra, instead of leaving it to the industry players
- govt gonna move to public clouds, already eyed cooperation with the 3 main public cloud provider (AWS, GCP, Azure) + 1 local cloud provider ( TM Malaysia)

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Shrink, reduce footprint for most of the Managed Service is very normal in IT services. More so when COVID-19 hit so bad in your client, they wanted to reduce cost on their business. Normally first thing they will cut is Managed Service.
Also, most of the MNC in Malaysia had adapted permanent work from home. Hence, shutting down, reduce physical workspace in office save them thousand if not, millions of operation cost. Give you an example, one of our client monthly electricity bill cost them RM80K, lease line from their data center cost them RM500K per month.
Covid strike force them to think for survival, and hence moved most of the physics to cloud based. Monthly at least RM580K saved.
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Muhyiddin: Microsoft, Amazon and Google keen to develop Malaysia into regional IT hub

https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2020/0...regiona/1894219
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QUOTE(dead_psycho @ Mar 6 2021, 09:01 AM)
HP maybe the next one? Alot of false promises and mismanagement shit going on in there.
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HP dah lama takda kat Cyberjaya.
HP split to HP Inc and HP enterprise long time ago.
The one that use blue HP logo is under HP Inc.
Green logo is HP Enterprise.
HP enterprise has one of its division Enterprise Services spin off and merge with another company CSC.
Enterprise Service + CSC = DXC that exist in Cyberjaya today.
basically HP no longer exist in Cyber few years ago after DXC has exist.

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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Mar 6 2021, 11:15 AM)
Muhyiddin: Microsoft, Amazon and Google keen to develop Malaysia into regional IT hub

https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2020/0...regiona/1894219
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when? 2022 or 2202 ?
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QUOTE(wh0cares @ Mar 6 2021, 11:17 AM)
when? 2022 or 2202 ?
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post Mar 6 2021, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Mar 5 2021, 09:06 PM)
Found this..


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if got experienced sure no problem getting a job in IT la.
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Our future generations would become the foreign workers in other Asean countries
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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Mar 6 2021, 11:15 AM)
Muhyiddin: Microsoft, Amazon and Google keen to develop Malaysia into regional IT hub

https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2020/0...regiona/1894219
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they also say turki fdi berbillion billion. until now bayang pun x nampak
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QUOTE(evilsmile @ Mar 6 2021, 09:36 AM)
damn. this country already so many people jobless since mco 1.0 and now suddenly add another 3000 people to the stats

sad to see MY progressing backwards rapidly under backdoor govt abah cow
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Abah bersatu all inherited from dang ph..the rot already started since 2018 so called 513 lol..blame self..
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Mar 6 2021, 12:24 PM)
they also say turki fdi berbillion billion. until now bayang pun x nampak
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I nampak baru merc
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Actually i also worried, because now my team really jump into automation. I have a feeling like 70% of task will be automated.

Been working here since 2010 dont know what gonna happen. Hope will get VSS or change team.
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QUOTE(darkness_kering @ Mar 6 2021, 07:54 AM)
With emperor II, i think close to 4 million...HW alone
Hasnt include the sw licensing + services
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Whoah, that's more than 4x the price of I series. How long does a bank change server by the way? UOB for instance will buy server when when they get new branch or expansion, they use ZIP series, all 3 also have. Mainframe buy new after 5 or 10 years?

What happen to their CISCO division?

Are you IBMer CE from newer generation or older generation?ex-IBMer?
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IBM so big building, wonder what will happen to those building
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QUOTE(AmIRight? @ Mar 6 2021, 11:17 AM)
HP dah lama takda kat Cyberjaya.
HP split to HP Inc and HP enterprise long time ago.
The one that use blue HP logo is under HP Inc.
Green logo is HP Enterprise.
HP enterprise has one of its division Enterprise Services spin off and merge with another company CSC.
Enterprise Service + CSC =  DXC that exist in Cyberjaya today.
basically HP no longer exist in Cyber few years ago after DXC has exist.
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Yes correct
Hewlett Packard Enterprise moved to Gateway Bangsar South
DXC (HPE ES + CSC) still remain in Cyberjaya
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DXC is seketul tahi
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ok ok. i bukak kilang in cyberjaya
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 6 2021, 02:51 PM)
Whoah, that's more than 4x the price of I series. How long does a bank change server by the way? UOB for instance will buy server when when they get new branch or expansion, they use ZIP series, all 3 also have. Mainframe buy new after 5 or 10 years?

What happen to their CISCO division?

Are you IBMer CE from newer generation or older generation?ex-IBMer?
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Depend on EOL ( Tech Refresh). branch usually no need server.. centralized server will be on HQ Prod.

Not a CE, Ex IBM consultant..

Switch/SystemX sold to Lenovo . BNT network
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Mar 6 2021, 03:13 PM)
DXC is seketul tahi
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why u said so?
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Mar 6 2021, 03:13 PM)
DXC is seketul tahi
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Atos want to buy them
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i bought a place here.. working here... but such news really give me ghost bump... it's true that more and more mnc moving out from malaysia.. before ibm... fujitsu, shell, dell down size... hsbc downsize.. then now t system, ibm shutting down.. damn
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 6 2021, 04:11 PM)
i bought a place here.. working here... but such news really give me ghost bump... it's true that more and more mnc moving out from malaysia.. before ibm... fujitsu, shell, dell down size... hsbc downsize.. then now t system, ibm shutting down.. damn
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Best if you have a second, third, etc backup plan just in case your time is up.

Now times are tough. rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 6 2021, 04:15 PM)
Best if you have a second, third, etc backup plan just in case your time is up.

Now times are tough.  rclxub.gif
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i plan to retire by 45 hope i still have my employment by then.
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Best if you have a second, third, etc backup plan just in case your time is up.

Now times are tough.  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(red4900 @ Mar 6 2021, 11:09 AM)
The news is about 5G infrastructure

Since when IBM involved in telecommunication industry

If you talking about MyDigital, lots of it are just bollocks with hype wordings. not even the people in the industry understand exactly what govt intends to do.

the only 2 concrete things that came out from that announcement was:
- govt gonna be in charge of building 5G infra, instead of leaving it to the industry players
- govt gonna move to public clouds, already eyed cooperation with the 3 main public cloud provider (AWS, GCP, Azure) + 1 local cloud provider ( TM Malaysia)
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IBM got telco project la, quite sometimes ago with Maxis. The whole maxis IT outsource to IBM con-sultant
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Mar 6 2021, 05:25 PM)
IBM got telco project la, quite sometimes ago with Maxis. The whole maxis IT outsource to IBM con-sultant
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I wouldn’t call that a called telco project. Just the IT department outsourced.
Macam Digi IT outsourced to TechM.
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I wouldn’t call that a called telco project. Just the IT department outsourced.
Macam Digi IT outsourced to TechM.
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They did project too, IT outsource is just part of the total programe
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QUOTE(darkness_kering @ Mar 6 2021, 03:50 PM)
Depend on EOL ( Tech Refresh). branch usually no need server.. centralized server will be on HQ Prod.

Not a CE, Ex IBM consultant..

Switch/SystemX sold to Lenovo . BNT network
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Great, confirmed you're IBMer. Thanks for the info. You are likely with tmn tun if you're old timer, newer batch next to 1U and get to see Cadbury Mondelez neighbours. You full time, not with Adecco. Cyberjaya under manpower or permanent.


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Pro tip: bosses should eject those Indian "IT professionals" expatriates and make way for locals. you won't notice the difference except probably it's better
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QUOTE(red4900 @ Mar 5 2021, 10:02 PM)
LOL people rly condemn govt even though they do ntg wrong

India are dirt cheap, hard to compete lah. Same experience level RM4k in here can get RM2k in India how??
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yes but if u worked with india counterpart then you will know their efficiency.....
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IBM moving to India mostly, confirmed news, last in May

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Why pity the small fry? Padan muka want to work for Western MNC. Should work for GLC or Gomen...  whistling.gif
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IBM so big building, wonder what will happen to those building
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Rented out to Deriv (Online Stock Trading Platform). They are expanding their team I think.
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Pro tip: bosses should eject those Indian "IT professionals" expatriates and make way for locals. you won't notice the difference except probably it's better
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No joke, those Indian "IT professionals" also smart enough to know Msia is not good future for them. Alot of them I know told me they just use Msia as stepping stone before moving to Singapore or to other countries... they cant afford to get visa to those higher requirement places, so earn money and experience in Msia first. If no success, then stuck in Msia. My Indian ex-tutor from IT course in Uni also did the same thing.
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QUOTE(dead_psycho @ Mar 7 2021, 08:05 AM)
No joke, those Indian "IT professionals" also smart enough to know Msia is not good future for them. Alot of them I know told me they just use Msia as stepping stone before moving to Singapore or to other countries... they cant afford to get visa to those higher requirement places, so earn money and experience in Msia first. If no success, then stuck in Msia. My Indian ex-tutor from IT course in Uni also did the same thing.
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Because EP has minimum salary threshold.
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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Mar 7 2021, 07:57 AM)
Rented out to Deriv (Online Stock Trading Platform). They are expanding their team I think.
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People here think quill will be so stupid to let the building empty. Of course be they going to find a new tenant.

As long as the facility and office building is there, business will be invited in.
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QUOTE(Alagarajah @ Mar 6 2021, 11:19 AM)
if got experienced sure no problem getting a job in IT la.
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IT jobs require highly specific skills. You experience in IBM system may not be useful to Microsoft or Google.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 7 2021, 08:07 AM)
IT jobs require highly specific skills. You experience in IBM system may not be useful to Microsoft or Google.
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I thought IT is booming? IBM should be thriving?
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I thought IT is booming? IBM should be thriving?
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IBM is dinosaur-era company. The larger they are, the more difficult to wiggle adapt to market trend.
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3000 staffs ?!

Incoming thousands vacant apartment.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 6 2021, 10:22 PM)
Great, confirmed you're IBMer. Thanks for the info. You are likely with tmn tun if you're old timer, newer batch next to 1U and get to see Cadbury Mondelez neighbours. You full time, not with Adecco. Cyberjaya under manpower or permanent.
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Not that old.. when i joined already at BU..
Yap... White badge.. not yellowmm.

Last for 6-7yrs there.. IBM give me alot opportunity..
Mostly training in Austin/Rochester/Poughkeepsie..
Sad to see they cant adapt fast enough.

I know it hard if u have 300k people in the organization.

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QUOTE(dead_psycho @ Mar 7 2021, 08:15 AM)
Agree..leceh part is so many softwares and tech in the market nowadays.. different companies looking for recruits with specific skills.. need to stay up-to-date to remain competitive
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Even if you stay up to date, your boss can still hire younger people at half your salary. When it comes to new skills, you don't have much advantage to your juniors.

Well, unless you are your own boss.

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Quite surprised that IBM Cyberjaya will close down.
Used to working there for 3 year. Lucky left it very early. Quite hard to get permanent post. Mostly is contract under Manpower.

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When it comes to new skills, you don't have much advantage to your juniors.


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But the main difference is experience and the way a person handle/ manage issues.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 7 2021, 09:28 AM)
Even if you stay up to date, your boss can still hire younger people at half your salary. When it comes to new skills, you don't have much advantage to your juniors.

Well, unless you are your own boss.
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when i am hiring a more senior person, i am looking for maturity, ability to deal with VUCA and more refined problem solving skills

those things are harder to find in juniors
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Msia is in dire needs of more foreign investors ... with the turmoil in Msia admin ... there are far from hope to recover ... if any ,,,

Lets get back to the normal slogan nowdays for Msia
"All is under control " ...

Does that portray the true conditions?
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He’s making a fool of himself really. laugh.gif

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Dinosaur Era is still tech ma. Very rare for tech companies to die
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Hospital coming in June...
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then cyber can be turn into village for seniors. I expect home care service will be booming soon.
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Abah bersatu all inherited from dang ph..the rot already started since 2018 so called 513 lol..blame self..
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so who is left in cyberjaya?
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so who is left in cyberjaya?
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Mar 7 2021, 02:36 PM)
https://hype.my/2020/193028/ibm-malaysia-em...-malay-muslims/

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Sudah pindah to Yindia kot.

And becomes CFO there. laugh.gif
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Quantum Computing, AI also dinosaur tech?
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IBM really in deep trouble.

Even watson they're going to sell.
i think Redhat acquisition really cost big impact.

I know KPJ subscribe this Watson Heatlh 2 yrs back

https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/ib...ealth-business/

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If you run by the local mgmt director, vp level. ... The likes like amoi auntie who got free time to post fb racist rant abd get away with it.. real mgmt who always think of competition where got time do all this. Pity small fry gmhave these mgmt. Ganti rugi pun sikit, ada anak di taska pula. Whereas those fat directors join 10,20 yrs plus, gaji pun besar, stock option pjn banyak dan anak dah besar jadi lawyer, doctor. And also maby condo sapu wbeb property is dirt cheap at their time...
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 5 2021, 09:12 PM)
so how now cyber town?

taco bell also not open yet
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jassaaa not set up office there ?

got lots of job opportunities yo
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Msia is in dire needs of  more foreign investors ... with the turmoil in Msia admin ... there are far from hope to recover ... if any ,,,

Lets get back to the normal slogan nowdays for Msia
"All is under control " ...

Does that portray the true conditions?
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we need to change this mindset

we should not be drawing investors

we should be the investor !!!!

look at our local brands, how have they grown under so many years of toot toot administration ?

S Korea is investing overseas with their various local brands - using k pop - like btc to promote their products n services to rest of the world.

MNCs come n go, according to big market n low cost

don't rely on them

we need to be the MNC

for this reason, no matter how sucky you think our local brands n corps r, we gotta support them to grow into MNCs. They are what we only got to grow our economy. Dun talk about Malaysia airlines or any other GLCs out there, they dun seem to be supporting into a proper MNC.
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 8 2021, 09:53 AM)
we need to change this mindset

we should not be drawing investors

we should be the investor !!!!

look at our local brands, how have they grown under so many years of toot toot administration ?

S Korea  is investing overseas with their various local brands - using k pop - like btc to promote their products n services to rest of the world.

MNCs come n go, according to big market n low cost

don't rely on them

we need to be the MNC

for this reason, no matter how sucky you think our local brands n corps r, we gotta support them to grow into MNCs. They are what we only got to grow our economy. Dun talk about Malaysia airlines or any other GLCs out there, they dun seem to be supporting into a proper MNC.
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the first step to do that is to acquire technology from others either through partnerships or investments which translates to fdi. the other alternative is to figure it out yourself thru r&d. so far i have only seen hysteria kit.
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Mar 8 2021, 09:57 AM)
the first step to do that is to acquire technology from others either through partnerships or investments which translates to fdi. the other alternative is to figure it out yourself thru r&d. so far i have only seen hysteria kit.
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we been thru n done that

just not successfully

Silterra
Potong
perodua
MEC

just some of the names that ring a bell
we had our chances back in 1990s and early 2000s, investors are not coming back n open their skirts to allow us to peep up their panties for their technological secrets
they are all going to China to sell their backside
we got nothing to offer to them now.

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 8 2021, 09:59 AM)
we been thru n done that

just not successfully

Silterra
Potong
perodua
MEC

just some of the names that ring a bell
we had our chances back in 1990s and early 2000s, investors are not coming back n open their skirts to allow us to peep up their panties for their technological secrets
they are all going to China to sell their backside
we got nothing to offer to them now.
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i'm just telling u, u can't conjure out an MNC out of thin air. otherwise everyone would have done it and there will be no poor nations
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QUOTE(dead_psycho @ Mar 7 2021, 08:05 AM)
No joke, those Indian "IT professionals" also smart enough to know Msia is not good future for them. Alot of them I know told me they just use Msia as stepping stone before moving to Singapore or to other countries... they cant afford to get visa to those higher requirement places, so earn money and experience in Msia first. If no success, then stuck in Msia. My Indian ex-tutor from IT course in Uni also did the same thing.
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Yes, very true.
Most Indian IT Professionals which are very good tend to get accepted in western countries e.g. US, Europe, Aust/NZ. This left those average IT professionals which doesn't meet the cut to migrate to western countries, they choose either Msia / Sg due the ease of entry and also they get to work with big name companies. After a few years they will plan to migrate to Aust/NZ which will be much more easier given their long experience with well known companies here in Msia/Sg.
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Mar 8 2021, 10:03 AM)
i'm just telling u, u can't conjure out an MNC out of thin air. otherwise everyone would have done it and there will be no poor nations
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which is why it is so damn difficult

and there is a long road to get us out of this middle income trap

so far see the current goman, don't seem they have any idea what they doing to turn us around - Assmin ? just reporting we have investment coming in but in fact we're the lowest performer in the whole SEA.

we r not like India already got an army of well skilled cheap IT labor.
most of what we have, most likely went to Sweden, Aust, Singapore, USA to work for better opportunities.
then racing everyday, scare whatever potential entrepreneur we have.
Look at how Air Asia is treated, suspect one day they may get frustrated n move their HQ overseas.
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we lose out bcos can't compete with the increasing cost.

ibm cyber closing down bcos transfer to india. only left accounting dept here. only let employees know last week and will cease operation on may.

for t-system, the news was made known since last year to their employees
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i think.. i will text her again..
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Nope, we should focus on religious studies and dunia akhirat. Life is a dream, not important. We need to follow Iran model.
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You should try India...
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 8 2021, 09:47 AM)
jassaaa not set up office there ?

got lots of job opportunities yo
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that one hq in putarjaya
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then cyber can be turn into village for seniors. I expect home care service will be booming soon.
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Mar 8 2021, 09:57 AM)
the first step to do that is to acquire technology from others either through partnerships or investments which translates to fdi. the other alternative is to figure it out yourself thru r&d. so far i have only seen hysteria kit.
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You never see enough how amoi auntie sit at director leve tell you don do this and that and be compliant, abd sendiri scout what stock to buy, what condo to sapu and fb to read during free time while macai work like dog. The case of hysteria kit 1 in 1000, but work under amoi auntie like that is common sight, almost 99/100. And most in mnc. Those defend investor and mnc must comfortable working with amoi auntie jilat jilat.

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 8 2021, 09:59 AM)
we been thru n done that

just not successfully

Silterra
Potong
perodua
MEC

just some of the names that ring a bell
we had our chances back in 1990s and early 2000s, investors are not coming back n open their skirts to allow us to peep up their panties for their technological secrets
they are all going to China to sell their backside
we got nothing to offer to them now.
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After what they had experience in China, you think they will be so stupid again?

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After what they had experience in China, you think they will be so stupid again?
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yeah the Western MNCs are really that stupid
they are all motivated by short term gains
there been reports of many MNCs willing to give up their intellectual property to China in exchange for access to the big China market
that is why Trump was trying to stop it by punishing MNCs trying to do that
China is using pressure to force MNCs to open up their secrets.
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Mar 8 2021, 08:33 PM)
You never see enough how amoi auntie sit at director leve tell you don do this and that and be compliant, abd sendiri scout what stock to buy, what condo to sapu and fb to read during free time while macai work like dog. The case of hysteria kit 1 in 1000, but work under amoi auntie like that is common sight, almost 99/100. And most in mnc. Those defend investor and mnc must comfortable working with amoi auntie jilat jilat.
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Unless you worked in a Chinamen co like a tyre workshop...what you said here, a young female at a C-level in an MNC....statistically doesnt make sense
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 9 2021, 09:55 AM)
yeah the Western MNCs are really that stupid
they are all motivated by short term gains
there been reports of many MNCs willing to give up their intellectual property to China in exchange for access to the big China market
that is why Trump was trying to stop it by punishing MNCs trying to do that
China is using pressure to force MNCs to open up their secrets.
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They aren't stupid. They thought they can exploit China, but little do they know China don't give a fucuk about copy right. China ain't going to play by the book.

Let me give you an examples. China offered Japan Kawasaki to buy they bullet train and rail, where Japan send their engineer there to help built the infrastructure. Ok, got profit, who don't want right? Later China copy it , and Kawasaki cannot do shit to China. Cannot sue them. So JR and Hitachi built 1% of the hsr and remaining 99% done by Chinese company stealing other technology.

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 9 2021, 10:31 AM)
They aren't stupid. They thought they can exploit China, but little do they know China don't give a fucuk about copy right. China ain't going to play by the book.

Let me give you an examples. China offered Japan Kawasaki to buy they bullet train and rail, where Japan send their engineer there to help built the infrastructure. Ok, got profit, who don't want right? Later China copy it , and Kawasaki cannot do shit to China. Cannot sue them. So JR and Hitachi built 1% of the hsr and remaining 99% done by Chinese company stealing other technology.
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this was what exactly mamakthir wanted to do. Set up JVs n MNCs come here, then we learn slowly slowly develop our own technologies.

but 2 factors failed because:
1) hahahaha you know why lah. we are synonymous with failure.
2) our glorious 1990s was cut short by currency crisis attack and then China's emergence cause all greedy MNCs to pack their bags and move to China

It doesn't matter, now China is just too strong. They should have done a trump on them right from the start. What Trump did was trying to erase the past mistakes by enforcing China to follow the rules. But they don't.

Still many MNCs are falling prey to intellectual property stealing, so as we speak.
when half of the western MNCs have their business, R&D and facilities in China, also means half of their employees in sensitive areas are from PRC. Matter of time, PRC would catch up.

So the stupid ones that fall to greed are the western MNCs.
If they are smart, they would spread their risks and move back some of their operations to South East Asia
but no no, they all want to mengaut untung in China.
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Atos still exist in malaysia? Last time few of my fren from csc (outsourced) join them with high salary now left already
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Mar 5 2021, 09:16 PM)
Abah and his fm make the right direction. We will be the mnc. Starting with silterra in cyberjaya. We will be  a foundry 10x than the defunct chartered semicon.  Maybe should renamed as msmc.
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QUOTE(creep @ Mar 9 2021, 11:51 AM)
Atos still exist in malaysia? Last time few of my fren from csc (outsourced) join them with high salary now left already
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Atos is in cyberjaya. Behind tsystems building.
Looks like they cancel plan to buy dxc.
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 9 2021, 11:12 AM)
this was what exactly mamakthir wanted to do. Set up JVs n MNCs come here, then we learn slowly slowly develop our own technologies.

but 2 factors failed because:
1) hahahaha you know why lah. we are synonymous with failure.
2) our glorious 1990s was cut short by currency crisis attack and then China's emergence cause all greedy MNCs to pack their bags and move to China

It doesn't matter, now China is just too strong. They should have done a trump on them right from the start. What Trump did was trying to erase the past mistakes by enforcing China to follow the rules. But they don't.

Still many MNCs are falling prey to intellectual property stealing, so as we speak.
when half of the western MNCs have their business, R&D and facilities in China, also means half of their employees in sensitive areas are from PRC. Matter of time, PRC would catch up.

So the stupid ones that fall to greed are the western MNCs.
If they are smart, they would spread their risks and move back some of their operations to South East Asia
but no no, they all want to mengaut untung in China.
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Instead of Western mnc is stupid, I'll say China is smart. Particularly what China did is they sacrifice short term gain to get long term gain.

Allow me to explain, in Malaysia, we invited mnc in. Then we tax them kaw kaw, no freebies. In China, they invited mnc, then give freebies, then mnc move more and more of their department into China and finally the most valuable R&D is moved into China.

In laymen terms, is something like a boss go car wash, the carwash say ok I wash your car and vacuum your car for free ok? Boss said, sure vacuum it clean please since it's free. Then the carwash said how about polish at half price, ok polish as well. Then how about I service your car for 50% of normal mechanic? But I'm no mechanics, you need teach me. Good deal. So the carwash from simple manual labor of carwash transform to mechanics services. Once they learned skill to be mechanics , no more 50% discount, they can give 20% discount, but still cheaper than other place.

Thing is it's Malaysian willing to do vacuum for free? Willing to polish car for half price? Willing to service car at 50% rate? No. We don't. So we will only be car washer.



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The previous HP campus in Cyberjaya also seems like left one building only. The one opposite the IRB building, which back then was the tallest block at that area.
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The previous HP campus in Cyberjaya also seems like left one building only. The one opposite the IRB building, which back then was the tallest block at that area.
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Left the West wing only

Even West wing is less than half occupied.

The other wing is empty.


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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Mar 9 2021, 01:46 PM)
Left the West wing only

Even West wing is less than half occupied.

The other wing is empty.
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I see. I used to work there as the Finance SSC.

Left before they rebranded as DXC or something.
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3000 staffs ?!

Incoming thousands vacant apartment.
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For a start, who say we got 3000 staffs here?


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I see. I used to work there as the Finance SSC.

Left before they rebranded as DXC or something.
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I know a couple of sweet girls from your finance side.

Hgggghn.


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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 9 2021, 01:38 PM)
Instead of Western mnc is stupid, I'll say China is smart. Particularly what China did is they sacrifice short term gain to get long term gain.

Allow me to explain, in Malaysia, we invited mnc in. Then we tax them kaw kaw, no freebies. In China, they invited mnc, then give freebies, then mnc move more and more of their department into China and finally the most valuable R&D is moved into China.

In laymen terms, is something like a boss go car wash, the carwash say ok I wash your car and vacuum your car for free ok? Boss said, sure vacuum it clean please since it's free. Then the carwash said how about polish at half price, ok polish as well. Then how about I service your car for 50% of normal mechanic? But I'm no mechanics, you need teach me. Good deal. So the carwash from simple manual labor of carwash transform to mechanics services. Once they learned skill to be mechanics , no more 50% discount, they can give 20% discount, but still cheaper than other place.

Thing is it's Malaysian willing to do vacuum for free? Willing to polish car for half price? Willing to service car at 50% rate? No. We don't. So we will only be car washer.
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Dont think its that bad. MNCs can apply (and usually get) tax incentives like Pioneer Status or Investment Tax Allowance. For some pioneer status companies, they can enjoy up to 100% tax exemption. Supposed to be for 5 years but i actually found out got one MNC that renews their Pioneer status every 5 years. The CFO visits BNM or PMO, show them how many locals they employ, how much they pay local suppliers , how much they export overseas and gets a surat sokongan just like that haha

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Mar 9 2021, 01:58 PM)
I know a couple of sweet girls from your finance side.

Hgggghn.
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Which personality is this today. You used to like boys/ young man haha
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Which personality is this today. You used to like boys/ young man haha
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Both

You hp gym inside the campus I got sneak in b4.
Got some cute muscular guys there.


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QUOTE(9m2w @ Mar 9 2021, 01:59 PM)
Dont think its that bad. MNCs can apply (and usually get) tax incentives like Pioneer Status or Investment Tax Allowance. For some pioneer status companies, they can enjoy up to 100% tax exemption. Supposed to be for 5 years but i actually found out got one MNC that renews their Pioneer status every 5 years. The CFO visits BNM or PMO, show them how many locals they employ, how much they pay local suppliers , how much they export overseas and gets a surat sokongan just like that haha
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I don't mean just tax rebates, ease of doing business, ease of finding talents etc is important. Public holiday is killing it in Malaysia.
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I know a couple of sweet girls from your finance side.

Hgggghn.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Mar 9 2021, 02:05 PM)
Both

You hp gym inside the campus I got sneak in b4.
Got some cute muscular guys there.
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Ooh, you visited our gym before. Got play at the squash court or badminton hall anot? brows.gif

I missed my times with HP too.

Anyways, it's been long time and I don't really look back on my previous roles/companies.
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Ooh, you visited our gym before. Got play at the squash court or badminton hall anot? brows.gif

I missed my times with HP too.

Anyways, it's been long time and I don't really look back on my previous roles/companies.
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Squash . Badminton.
Basketball .
All got

And I took shower there before.

Some hp guys really hggghn when they took their towel in front of me.


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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 9 2021, 01:38 PM)
Instead of Western mnc is stupid, I'll say China is smart. Particularly what China did is they sacrifice short term gain to get long term gain.

Allow me to explain, in Malaysia, we invited mnc in. Then we tax them kaw kaw, no freebies. In China, they invited mnc, then give freebies, then mnc move more and more of their department into China and finally the most valuable R&D is moved into China.

In laymen terms, is something like a boss go car wash, the carwash say ok I wash your car and vacuum your car for free ok? Boss said, sure vacuum it clean please since it's free. Then the carwash said how about polish at half price, ok polish as well. Then how about I service your car for 50% of normal mechanic? But I'm no mechanics, you need teach me. Good deal. So the carwash from simple manual labor of carwash transform to mechanics services. Once they learned skill to be mechanics , no more 50% discount, they can give 20% discount, but still cheaper than other place.

Thing is it's Malaysian willing to do vacuum for free? Willing to polish car for half price? Willing to service car at 50% rate? No. We don't. So we will only be car washer.
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it is also market size

china is like 2000 cars a day go to the shop to wash car

msia is like 20 cars a day go to shop to wash car

you think the franchise owner of car wash want to teach shop with 2000/day customer or 20/day customer to open mechanic service ?

therefore msia learning curve must be fast to acquire the knowledge transfer

unfortunately we no japan or s korea, so we r left far behind.

even Indonesia can at least get 200/day customer, how can we compete ?
of course u know lah we know lah, why we r far behind.
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 9 2021, 09:55 AM)
yeah the Western MNCs are really that stupid
they are all motivated by short term gains
there been reports of many MNCs willing to give up their intellectual property to China in exchange for access to the big China market
that is why Trump was trying to stop it by punishing MNCs trying to do that
China is using pressure to force MNCs to open up their secrets.
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The problem is that there are so many MNC in the same sector. If one doesn't transfer technology to China, another one will.

Take high speed rail for example: Japanese refused to transfer technology to China, but Europeans did. Now China has leapfrog both Japan and Europe.
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I don't mean just tax rebates, ease of doing business, ease of finding talents etc is important. Public holiday is killing it in Malaysia.
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public holiday dont really play a part in FDI exodus. Companies can actually choose which public holidays to follow. Only government departments strictly observe all public holiday.
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public holiday dont really play a part in FDI exodus. Companies can actually choose which public holidays to follow. Only government departments strictly observe all public holiday.
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 9 2021, 02:42 PM)
it is also market size

china is like 2000 cars a day go to the shop to wash car

msia is like 20 cars a day go to shop to wash car

you think the franchise owner of car wash want to teach shop with 2000/day customer or 20/day customer to open mechanic service ?

therefore msia learning curve must be fast to acquire the knowledge transfer

unfortunately we no japan or s korea, so we r left far behind.

even Indonesia can at least get 200/day customer, how can we compete ?
of course u know lah we know lah, why we r far behind.
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Well, I'll not say local market will be a factor to attract mnc. MNC don't mind local market anyway, if there is local market it is a plus. We losing to Vietnam, Philippines. I'm sure our local market is better. Things that was research and developed in China wasn't meant for China market anyway, the target is the consumer from the West.

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work solo jual nasi lemak job security also better kek

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 9 2021, 02:07 PM)
I don't mean just tax rebates, ease of doing business, ease of finding talents etc is important. Public holiday is killing it in Malaysia.
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If you want to say about public hols, i ask to please look at Philippines public hols first. Theirs are much more than malaysia

Plus Phillippines compulsory to get 13th month pay, meal allowance and rice allowance on top of their base salary.

Malaysia don't have all those, yet mnc still going to phillipines. Our english mastery is the same as theirs too
So it's not about public hols or language.
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haha. the recruiter last time went collge and say they will only accept 3.2 and above cgpa ppl.
WHHEEEZEE.
work solo jual nasi lemak job security also better kek
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better than this one:
Job: System Admin
MINIMUM requirement: PhD
Min working experience: 5 yrs
MAXIMUM SALARY cap: RM 4,800

p/s: The minimum requirement for PhD was not a typo. Angmo boss said PhD shows that the company only hire smart ppl.

U tell me who on earth mau apply with salary of RM4800 only as PhD holder?
Since response was very poor, they ended up lowering requirement to Degree holders LOL

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Is it true?

IBM Cyberjaya closed shop already?

AFAIK, that company has been in Cyberjaya for quite some time, since 2004 if i am not mistaken.

Got a few of my friends working there also.

Feel hesitant if want to ask them, afraid they are affected also.  sad.gif

/k can confirm this news? Thanks.

Stay strong to those who are affected!  console.gif
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better than this one:
Job: System Admin
MINIMUM requirement: PhD
Min working experience: 5 yrs
MAXIMUM SALARY cap: RM 4,800

p/s: The minimum requirement for PhD was not a typo. Angmo boss said PhD shows that the company only hire smart ppl.

U tell me who on earth mau apply with salary of RM4800 only as PhD holder?
Since response was very poor, they ended up lowering requirement to Degree holders  LOL
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 9 2021, 02:53 PM)
The problem is that there are so many MNC in the same sector. If one doesn't transfer technology to China, another one will.

Take high speed rail for example: Japanese refused to transfer technology to China, but Europeans did. Now China has leapfrog both Japan and Europe.
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I don't think so

China still has a lot to learn

for eg, their new airliner, needs jet engine and instrumental equipment from USA
China still behind in chip manufacturing, but catching up.


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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 9 2021, 03:16 PM)
Well, I'll not say local market will be a factor to attract mnc. MNC don't mind local market anyway, if there is local market it is a plus. We losing to Vietnam, Philippines. I'm sure our local market is better. Things that was research and developed in China wasn't meant for China market anyway, the target is the consumer from the West.
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Yes we r losing competitiveness.

sorry to say lah, I see our productivity, so poor.

Even the british work from 830 to 530, the americans call them lazy, are much much better than us.

I go to HK and work, whenever I bring up issue, they all got ownership of work

here ? all wanna taichi taichi and working in silos.
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 9 2021, 06:54 PM)
Yes we r losing competitiveness.

sorry to say lah, I see our productivity, so poor.

Even the british work from 830 to 530, the americans call them lazy, are much much better than us.

I go to HK and work, whenever I bring up issue, they all got ownership of work

here ? all wanna taichi taichi and working in silos.
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Very true. But depending on company. I had worked in company where the area of responsibility is clear no one taichi anything, escalation means escalation, manager jump in and take over discussion.

Our productivity is actually higher than British counterpart. But we are working like robot and too transactional. There is no human touch. Used to work with someone from Britain. Before start anything they will say how are you? Hi hi, good day, sad day bla bla, going cafe , later go where etc etc small talk for few min before go into topics. In Malaysia we called it fake-fake. Actually entire apac culture besides Australia, once on call, straight to business. No time for small chat.

Which culture is better, I'll not judge. But efficiency wise, call that can be concluded in 30 min might take an hours including small chat.

But yes, I'll put British work hard, play hard and American work smart play smart as lazy.

British can anytime call office ask for blanket day. Entitlement. Not even emergency leave.

But if we are to compare with other Asia market, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore. We confirm lost.

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Very true. But depending on company. I had worked in company where the area of responsibility is clear no one taichi anything, escalation means escalation, manager jump in and take over discussion.

Our productivity is actually higher than British counterpart. But we are working like robot and too transactional. There is no human touch. Used to work with someone from Britain. Before start anything they will say how are you? Hi hi, good day, sad day bla bla, going cafe , later go where etc etc small talk for few min before go into topics. In Malaysia we called it fake-fake. Actually entire apac culture besides Australia, once on call, straight to business. No time for small chat.

Which culture is better, I'll not judge. But efficiency wise, call that can be concluded in 30 min might take an hours including small chat.

But yes, I'll put British work hard, play hard and American work smart play smart as lazy.

British can anytime call office ask for blanket day. Entitlement. Not even emergency leave.

But if we are to compare with other Asia market, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore. We confirm lost.
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You must compare in terms of our spiritual strength and superior moral culture. We are morally and spiritually superior. In afterlife, we will win.

So definitely we're no. 1 in the spiritual league. Forget about materialism and current benchmarks. It's obsolete.

Malaysia no. 1! Syabas!
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 9 2021, 02:42 PM)
it is also market size

china is like 2000 cars a day go to the shop to wash car

msia is like 20 cars a day go to shop to wash car

you think the franchise owner of car wash want to teach shop with 2000/day customer or 20/day customer to open mechanic service ?

therefore msia learning curve must be fast to acquire the knowledge transfer

unfortunately we no japan or s korea, so we r left far behind.

even Indonesia can at least get 200/day customer, how can we compete ?
of course u know lah we know lah, why we r far behind.
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 9 2021, 09:17 PM)
You must compare in terms of our spiritual strength and superior moral culture. We are morally and spiritually superior. In afterlife, we will win.

So definitely we're no. 1 in the spiritual league. Forget about materialism and current benchmarks. It's obsolete.

Malaysia no. 1! Syabas!
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What talking you? Sorry no room for spiritual. An atheist here.
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What talking you? Sorry no room for spiritual. An atheist here.
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I'm talking for the majority here. You orang kito? If atheist, must face death penalty.
If not, too bad. Please migrate, you don't fit our kind.

https://medium.com/humanist-voices/intervie...st-2ee9b944cd3c

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 9 2021, 10:11 PM)
I'm talking for the majority here. You orang kito? If atheist, must face death penalty.
If not, too bad. Please migrate, you don't fit our kind.

https://medium.com/humanist-voices/intervie...st-2ee9b944cd3c
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Your islamophobia is at another level.

Tell you something, I don't like people to shove their believe onto other. Be it from whatever religion. There in /k used to have bunch of vegetarian shoveling their believe in /k, I'm having a good time with them. Of course, I'm having many good time with Muslim friends in here as well. But yours is at another level.

I told you, I have no God, if you trying to shove your whatever God to me, I'm sure we will going to have a great time in here 🙂

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 9 2021, 10:19 PM)
Your islamophobia is at another level.

Tell you something, I don't like people to shove their believe onto other. Be it from whatever religion. There in /k used to have bunch of vegetarian shoveling their believe in /k, I'm having a good time with them. Of course, I'm having many good time with Muslim friends in here as well. But yours is at another level.

I told you, I have no God, if you trying to shove your whatever God to me, I'm sure we will going to have a great time in here 🙂
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doesn't matter what I believe, it's what the majority believe.
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 9 2021, 10:20 PM)
doesn't matter what I believe, it's what the majority believe.
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I don't care what they believe, they leave me alone, I leave them alone.

Morally speaking, I think I have higher moral regards compare to certain religion leader like Hadi Awang who pray to god many times a day. I think many in /k had higher morality than him as well.

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 9 2021, 10:09 PM)
What talking you? Sorry no room for spiritual. An atheist here.
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Don’t mind him.

He’s smoking high grade weed yo.


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Not that old.. when i joined already at BU..
Yap... White badge.. not yellowmm.

Last for 6-7yrs there.. IBM give me alot opportunity..
Mostly training in Austin/Rochester/Poughkeepsie..
Sad to see they cant adapt fast enough.

I know it hard if u have 300k people in the organization.
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You sure gain lots of market value there especially the exclusivity on handling the IBM technical parts that vendors are begging for detailed information. Numbers of CE landed good pay jobs elsewhere after working with IBM several years taking as much info they could get.
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 9 2021, 09:17 PM)
You must compare in terms of our spiritual strength and superior moral culture. We are morally and spiritually superior. In afterlife, we will win.

So definitely we're no. 1 in the spiritual league. Forget about materialism and current benchmarks. It's obsolete.

Malaysia no. 1! Syabas!
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So if afterlife u will win

Why dun u stop wasting ur time talking to me

U go 14 floor n u be on the express highway to afterlife

There u become successful

Dun waste ur time here




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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 9 2021, 11:54 PM)
So if afterlife u will win

Why dun u stop wasting ur time talking to me

U go 14 floor n u be on the express highway to afterlife

There u become successful

Dun waste ur time here
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You are the one wasting your time. Majority of Malaysians believe in spiritual strength... so, please migrate so you don't pollute Malaysia with materialism.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 9 2021, 11:07 PM)
Don’t mind him.

He’s smoking high grade weed yo.
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I tot orang kito believe in afterlife mah. I just support the majority views... why, like that also salahan? Last time I oppose, kena hentam... now I support also salahan?

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man.. /k/ never failed to entertained me...
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 8 2021, 09:53 AM)
we need to change this mindset

we should not be drawing investors

we should be the investor !!!!

look at our local brands, how have they grown under so many years of toot toot administration ?

S Korea  is investing overseas with their various local brands - using k pop - like btc to promote their products n services to rest of the world.

MNCs come n go, according to big market n low cost

don't rely on them

we need to be the MNC

for this reason, no matter how sucky you think our local brands n corps r, we gotta support them to grow into MNCs. They are what we only got to grow our economy. Dun talk about Malaysia airlines or any other GLCs out there, they dun seem to be supporting into a proper MNC.
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we had got:
Grab

We now still have:
AirAsia
GoGet
Kaodim (not sure is Msian startup or not)
some other minor minor digital startups

We are losing:
Sugarbook


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we had got:
Grab

We now still have:
AirAsia
GoGet
Kaodim (not sure is Msian startup or not)
some other minor minor digital startups

We are losing:
Sugarbook
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Sugarbook sinful. Good riddance.
AirAsia no need. Making MAS look bad. Get rid of Air Asia so MAS can survive.
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 10 2021, 12:03 AM)
You are the one wasting your time. Majority of Malaysians believe in spiritual strength... so, please migrate so you don't pollute Malaysia with materialism.
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You spiritual doesnt mean you cant be productive

You should be the one to migrate to your afterlife, u give all sort of excuses not to work.

The 10th century muslim scholar who produce al.khatib is said to be tje 1st manual for western surgery. He lived in cordoba and lived spiritually

Pls dun associate urself with ppl with spiritual strength, u r an embarasement to them. U dun speak for their behalf.

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Putting agewisdom in my ignore list.



This dude should open new thread about afterlife, n migrate to afterlife...

Evrryone pls put him in ur ignore list.

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from IBM to afterlife story

man.. /k/ never failed to entertained me...
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Put this dude in ur ignore list

Let him migrate to next life
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Sugarbook sinful. Good riddance.
AirAsia no need. Making MAS look bad. Get rid of Air Asia so MAS can survive.
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How ironic
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Mar 8 2021, 09:53 AM)
we need to change this mindset

we should not be drawing investors

we should be the investor !!!!

look at our local brands, how have they grown under so many years of toot toot administration ?

S Korea  is investing overseas with their various local brands - using k pop - like btc to promote their products n services to rest of the world.

MNCs come n go, according to big market n low cost

don't rely on them

we need to be the MNC

for this reason, no matter how sucky you think our local brands n corps r, we gotta support them to grow into MNCs. They are what we only got to grow our economy. Dun talk about Malaysia airlines or any other GLCs out there, they dun seem to be supporting into a proper MNC.
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In case you havent realize, the best Msia brand is actually started in oversea. One of them like Jimmy Cho and the rest ...
And how are we going to be investor when Msia right now is even behind Vietnam ... come on ... viet ... ????

When compare to Cinsiapo we always will say , we cant compare since they are too small and in control but the facts is they are drawing investor left and right.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Mar 10 2021, 12:17 AM)
we had got:
Grab

We now still have:
AirAsia
GoGet
Kaodim (not sure is Msian startup or not)
some other minor minor digital startups

We are losing:
Sugarbook
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Grab is from Cinciapo .. not Msia ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grab_(company)


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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 10 2021, 12:56 PM)
Grab is from Cinciapo .. not Msia ... 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grab_(company)
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grab started from Malaysia then moved to Singapore
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grab started from Malaysia then moved to Singapore
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Which goes back to my point a few post ago .. all the start ups thats really make it big wont stay in Msia ..
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from IBM to afterlife story

man.. /k/ never failed to entertained me...
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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 10 2021, 11:58 AM)
Which goes back to my point a few post ago .. all the start ups thats  really make it big wont stay in Msia ..
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How ironic
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nah he isnt like this. His sarcasm wasnt on 100% of the time, its usually mixed with some good point.s Something snapped in him

QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 10 2021, 11:37 AM)
Follow the majority opinions of Malaysians mah.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Mar 10 2021, 12:06 PM)
nah he isnt like this. His sarcasm wasnt on 100% of the time, its usually mixed with some good point.s Something snapped in him
Speak of the devil..so what snapped?
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Well, there's no freedom of speech. So why not join the majority? Better than getting muzzled.

BTW - Do you think TS really cares? He is still laughing at all the so called stupid people in private sector, while enjoying his life in Civil Service. Said so himself... whilst committing breach of trust by misusing govt equipment to play games while supposed to be doing his job.

I'm sure he will be happy when more ppl get laid off.

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WD already bungkus

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post Mar 10 2021, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(raul88 @ Mar 10 2021, 12:07 PM)
WD already bungkus

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Wd built new one in Kuching for SSD
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post Mar 10 2021, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 10 2021, 12:07 PM)
Well, there's no freedom of speech. So why not join the majority? Better than getting muzzled.

BTW - Do you think TS really cares? He is still laughing at all the so called stupid people in private sector, while enjoying his life in Civil Service. Said so himself... whilst committing breach of trust by misusing govt equipment to play games while supposed to be doing his job.

I'm sure he will be happy when more ppl get laid off.
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Depends actually, i dont follow TS much per se but the little i seen him "bragging" about civil service is in response to the civil service are dumb, useless comments. Its tongue in cheek.

I'm also committing a breach of trust now no? WFH just by alt-tabing to lowyat and other shit i'm also comitting time theft hahah
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post Mar 10 2021, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Mar 10 2021, 12:33 PM)
Depends actually, i dont follow TS much per se but the little i seen him "bragging" about civil service is in response to the civil service are dumb, useless comments. Its tongue in cheek.

I'm also committing a breach of trust now no? WFH just by alt-tabing to lowyat and other shit i'm also comitting time theft hahah
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He was the one that said, he preferred go to Gomen office, switch on PC to play games whilst boss not around. He preferred that compared to WFH. And also laugh at people losing jobs due to MCO.

If that's tongue in cheek, well... good for him.
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post Mar 10 2021, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 10 2021, 12:35 PM)
He was the one that said, he preferred go to Gomen office, switch on PC to play games whilst boss not around. He preferred that compared to WFH. And also laugh at people losing jobs due to MCO.

If that's tongue in cheek, well... good for him.
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Well if i want to rustle ppl's jimmies that would be the best way if i was a govt servant no? Everyday there's govt servant useless, redundant etc posts around here, need to see the context lar to see if its really schadenfreude . Full disclosure my dad was a govt servant all his life. It's /k dont need to take things literally or too seriously la

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post Mar 10 2021, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 10 2021, 11:54 AM)
In case you havent realize,  the best Msia brand is  actually started in oversea. One of them like Jimmy Cho  and the rest ... 
And how are we going to be investor when Msia right now is even behind Vietnam ...  come on ... viet ... ???? 

When compare to Cinsiapo we always will say , we cant compare since they are too small and in control  but the facts is they are drawing investor left and right.
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Yup agree

there is one dude here that was smoking on very high weed, I put him on ignore list - totally off topic, talking about spiritual more important and saying that we are insulting him and the people he represent.

Spiritual people are actually hard working people. He is really insulting spiritual people when he say they r not hard working.

He should migrate to Afganistan.
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post Mar 10 2021, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 10 2021, 11:56 AM)
Grab is from Cinciapo .. not Msia ... 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grab_(company)
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apa kekonekan ni

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post Mar 10 2021, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 10 2021, 11:54 AM)
In case you havent realize,  the best Msia brand is  actually started in oversea. One of them like Jimmy Cho  and the rest ... 
And how are we going to be investor when Msia right now is even behind Vietnam ...  come on ... viet ... ???? 

When compare to Cinsiapo we always will say , we cant compare since they are too small and in control  but the facts is they are drawing investor left and right.
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if you look back

the best model we ever had was Najib's visionaires

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ant-says-najib/

ranked 3rd in the world

Silterra too, govt shouldn't just sold off like that, despite how miserable state they are in now, retain it at all costs. MAS and Proton can go for all I care, but it's never easy to setup any semi conductor company. The current world revolves around semiconductor, without microchips, cars manufacturing halted in US, PS5 became hot item's for scalpers, AMD GPUs raised prices




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post Mar 10 2021, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(HafeesFadil @ Mar 10 2021, 12:00 PM)
That why. From IBM suddenly vroom vroom.
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post Mar 10 2021, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 10 2021, 09:00 PM)
Need to permaban agewisdom. Racing non-stop
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don't worry i am monitoring him from now on. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Mar 10 2021, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 10 2021, 10:13 PM)
don't worry i am monitoring him from now on.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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block or ignore the mofo.. your blood pressure will be much lower.. worked for me
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post Mar 10 2021, 10:50 PM

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Mar 10 2021, 11:27 PM
This post has been deleted by Zaryl because: Not enough wisdom to reply in my thread. Increase more wisdom

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post Mar 10 2021, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mr. Novogratz @ Mar 10 2021, 10:24 PM)
Malaysia's only proposition for MNCs like IBM is to be a lower cost operation center than Singapore. Some quality will be hit but at least cost can be reduced.

But the racism in Malaysia has become so bad until Malaysia is not even 1/10 the quality of Singapore.

And here is the best part. In cyberjaya most MNCs have at least 70% - 80% Malay staff. So with this move away, the Malays will be hit quite hard.
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what racism? we all one big happy family ...
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post Mar 13 2021, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 5 2021, 08:58 PM)
Is it true?

IBM Cyberjaya closed shop already?

AFAIK, that company has been in Cyberjaya for quite some time, since 2004 if i am not mistaken.

Got a few of my friends working there also.

Feel hesitant if want to ask them, afraid they are affected also.  sad.gif

/k can confirm this news? Thanks.

Stay strong to those who are affected!  console.gif
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My fren also a manager there, I asked him what happen, this is the story, IBM had their GTS dept (Global tech solution) in Malaysia, earlier this year some mat saleh within the company seems to aquire the GTS department only and make it as a individual company so GTS no more IBM, so for starting from fresh they want to cut labour cost and the took the support to India, arrd 1200 staff affected
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post Mar 13 2021, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 10 2021, 11:58 AM)
Which goes back to my point a few post ago .. all the start ups thats  really make it big wont stay in Msia ..
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30% to u noe i noe who

then lots of politic n conditions to hire u noe i noe who

an efficient company would never wants tat
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QUOTE(darkness_kering @ Mar 6 2021, 10:18 AM)
GTS and Consulting team based in BU
Cyerberjaya only IT support & managed services (project based)
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Wrong. GBS in BU. GTS in cyber
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post Mar 14 2021, 03:57 AM

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QUOTE(va_841 @ Mar 13 2021, 04:03 PM)
My fren also a manager there, I asked him what happen, this is the story, IBM had their GTS dept (Global tech solution) in Malaysia, earlier this year some mat saleh within the company seems to aquire the GTS department only and make it as a individual company so GTS no more IBM, so for starting from fresh they want to cut labour cost and the took the support to India, arrd 1200 staff affected
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Hope those affected would secure other jobs.

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